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Hope Bancorp, Inc. (HOPE)

Q4 2023 Earnings Call· Tue, Jan 30, 2024

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Operator

Operator

Good afternoon, and welcome to the Hope Bancorp 2023 Fourth Quarter Earnings Conference Call. All participants will be in a listen-only mode. [Operator Instructions] After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. [Operator Instructions] Please note, this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Angie Yang, Director of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Angie Yang

Analyst

Thank you, Danielle. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us for the Hope Bancorp 2023 fourth quarter investor conference call. As usual, we will be using a slide presentation to accompany our discussion this morning, which is available in the Presentations page of our Investor Relations website. Beginning on Slide 2, let me begin with a brief statement regarding forward-looking remarks. The call today contains forward-looking projections regarding the future financial performance of the company and future events. These statements may differ materially from actual results due to certain risks and uncertainties. In addition, some of the information referenced on this call today are non-GAAP financial measures. For a more detailed description of the risk factors and a reconciliation of GAAP to non-GAAP financial measures, please refer to the company's filings with the SEC, as well as the safe harbor statements in our press release issued this morning. Hope Bancorp assumes no obligation to revise any forward-looking projections that may be made on today's call. Now we have allotted one hour for this call. Presenting from the management side today will be Kevin Kim, Hope Bancorp's Chairman, President and CEO; Julianna Balicka, our Chief Financial Officer; and Peter Koh, our Chief Operating Officer is also here with us as usual and will be available for the Q&A session. With that, let me turn the call over to Kevin Kim. Kevin?

Kevin Kim

Analyst

Thank you, Angie. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us today. Now, let's begin on Slide 3 with a brief overview of the quarter. For the fourth quarter of 2023, we earned net income of $26.5 million or $0.22 per diluted share. Income this quarter included two notable items, the FDIC special assessment of $3.1 million after tax and restructuring charge of $8.7 million after tax. Excluding these notable items, our net income was $38 million, up 26% quarter-over-quarter, and our earnings per share were $0.32, up 28% quarter-over-quarter. A continued focus on expense management and meaningful improvements in our asset quality were important drivers of our net income growth this quarter. In October of 2023, we announced a strategic reorganization designed to enhance shareholder value over the long term. We realigned our structure around key lines of business and products, positioning Bank of Hope to operate more efficiently, support high quality loan and deposit growth and deliver improved returns in the years to come. We are making substantial progress on this transformation, focusing management efforts and attention on process and efficiency improvement to empower our frontline to grow their portfolios and expand customer relationships. As part of the reorganization plan and as previously announced, we will consolidate certain branches in the first quarter -- in the first half of 2024, the cost of which was accrued as part of the fourth quarter 2023 restructuring charges. Continuing on to Slide 4. We ended the year with a very strong capital position and all our capital ratios expanded from September 30 of 2023. We grew tangible book value 6% quarter-over-quarter and year-over-year. As of December 31 of 2023, our total capital ratio was 13.92%, up 69 basis points from September 30th and our common equity Tier 1 ratio was…

Julianna Balicka

Analyst

Thank you, Kevin, and good morning, everyone. Beginning with Slide 9. Our net interest income totaled $126 million for the fourth quarter of 2023, a decrease of 7% from the third quarter. The preceding third quarter included $3 million of recovered interest income related to one borrower relationship, which contributed 6 basis points of net interest margin in the third quarter. Excluding the recovery, net interest income decreased 5% quarter-over-quarter. Net interest margin for the 2023 fourth quarter contracted 13 basis points to 2.70%. Excluding the interest income recovery from the third quarter, the net interest margin contracted 7 basis points quarter-over-quarter. The linked quarter change in net interest income and net interest margin also reflected a higher cost of interest-bearing deposits and a decrease in the average balance of loans, partially offset by a decrease in the average lengths of interest-bearing deposits and higher yields on investment securities and other earning assets. At the end of the first quarter of 2024, we plan to pay off our bank term funding program borrowings of $1.7 billion with interest-earning cash. The positive contribution to net interest income from the BTFP was $4 million in the fourth quarter. When the BTFP comes up for renewal at the end of March and beginning of April, this positive spread opportunity will go away and we will pay off the borrowings. This will have an impact of reducing our average earning assets and net interest income after the first quarter of 2024. Moving on to Slide 10. Our average loans of $14.1 billion decreased approximately 3% linked quarter and the average yield on our loan portfolio declined 3 basis points to 6.24%. The interest income recovery that I mentioned on the previous slide contributed 7 basis points to the loan yield in the preceding third…

Kevin Kim

Analyst

Thank you, Julianna. Moving on to Slide 14. The 2023 fourth quarter was a key quarter for Bank of Hope as we laid the foundation to build a stronger and more efficient regional bank that is highly focused on broadening and deepening client relationships. On Slide 15, we provide our outlook. We are presenting our expectations for the fourth quarter of 2024 compared with the fourth quarter of 2023, which we feel will provide a better sense of the direction in which we are building our company as we go through the transformation process. Fourth quarter to fourth quarter, we expect average loans to grow at a percentage rate in the low single digits, up from $14.05 billion in the fourth quarter of 2023. We have finished exiting non-core businesses and we anticipate paydowns in the loan portfolio to moderate in 2024. We project growth to be weighted to the second half of the year and plan to maintain an average loan-to-deposit ratio below 95%. In terms of net interest income, fourth quarter to fourth quarter, we expect net interest income to decline at a percentage rate in the low single digits from $126 million in the fourth quarter of '23. This includes the net impact of our planned payoff of the bank term funding program, which as Julianna mentioned, contributed a positive $4 million to our net interest income in the fourth quarter of 2023. Excluding the impact of the BTFP, we would expect our fourth quarter 2024 net interest income to be up modestly compared with the fourth quarter of 2023, benefiting from loan growth and an improved cost of funds. In our outlook, we are assuming five Fed Fund -- Fed Funds rate cuts beginning with May of this year for a year end Fed Funds Upper…

Operator

Operator

We will now begin the question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] The first question comes from Chris McGratty from KBW. Please go ahead.

Nick Moutafakis

Analyst

Hi, this is Nick Moutafakis on for Chris.

Julianna Balicka

Analyst

Hi.

Nick Moutafakis

Analyst

Maybe just starting with the NII. Your guide has a low single-digit decline. How does the NII outlook change if we get less rate cuts this year?

Julianna Balicka

Analyst

If we get fewer rate cuts this year, then our outlook will -- it will probably get a little bit worse, but not substantially so. Because on one hand, the -- we -- so the drivers behind our interest rate -- our net interest income outlook, are as follows. A return to loan growth, which will -- which is irrespective of the interest rate outlook. Of course, where our cost of funds is having five interest rate cuts in the coming year is -- will allow us to start to realize the beta on the downward repricing of deposit costs. However, in the beginning, we are lagging our beta assumptions. So we're really not picking up deposit cost improvement until the latter half of the year. So I'm not sure it'll be a substantially material impact if the rate cuts -- if you land up with three versus, say five. And the third driver of our improved net interest -- of net interest margin improvement will come -- I mean, not interest margin -- excuse me, net interest income improvement will come from deposit growth focused on expanding customer wallet share and getting more operational deposit accounts. But the part between 4Q '23 and 4Q '24 that is going to occur regardless of cuts is going to be the decrease to our NII from the net impact from the BTFP, which because of the spread you're able to earn on the earning cash contributed $4 million to the fourth quarter net interest income. Right. So that is going to be in there regardless of the cuts. And then if we get slower cuts, then we're not going to experience downward repricing of the loan portfolio as quickly, where on the variable rate loans, that's 100% beta right away up front. So I don't think that whether we're getting three, four or five cuts is going to make a substantial change to our interest income outlook.

Kevin Kim

Analyst

And if the cuts are delayed from the current projections that we have, I think the impact on the 2024 earnings would be more moderate, but we would see more of the benefits in '25 and beyond. So in the mid-term horizon, I think our projection that we are sharing today would stand.

Nick Moutafakis

Analyst

Great, thank you. And if I could just ask one more maybe on a potential capital return, just given the CET1 north of 12% and stock below book, any discussions around a buyback in '24 or '25. Thanks.

Kevin Kim

Analyst

Yes. As we mentioned, we have a strong capital base and with our strategic reorganization, we are well-positioned to take advantage of growth opportunities in 2024. This means that we do not have noticeable change from our position three months ago in terms of our share repurchase plan.

Nick Moutafakis

Analyst

Okay. Thank you for taking my questions.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] The next question comes from Gary Tenner of D.A. Davidson. Please go ahead.

Gary Tenner

Analyst

Thanks, good morning, everybody. I had a question about the expense guide for the year. The year-over-year or fourth quarter to fourth quarter, obviously down greater than 5%. As you think about the -- any remaining cost savings from the restructuring that could benefit the first half of the year versus the typical seasonal increase from payroll, et cetera. Is the first quarter or second quarter a little bit above fourth quarter and then kind of more of a back half of the year declined just thinking about the kind of quarter-by-quarter trajectory there?

Julianna Balicka

Analyst

Hi, Gary. Thank you. No, actually, because of the cost savings that are rolling through and because the cost savings already in our fourth quarter run rate only started after the risk happened in October. You're not going to see the year-over-year usual -- the first quarter bump up is going to be offset by cost saves.

Gary Tenner

Analyst

Okay, thank you. And then follow-up, on the net interest income guide, what deposit beta assumptions are you assuming relative to the five cuts potentially this year that you've got in your guide.

Julianna Balicka

Analyst

Sorry, can you -- what kind of beta assumptions we are assuming relative to what?

Gary Tenner

Analyst

To the five cuts you've got in your NII guide, what kind of deposit beta...

Julianna Balicka

Analyst

Yeah. So in the -- so for example, just to put some context around this, our total deposit beta on the upcycle that we are assuming is going to be by the time it's fully realized, before the rates start to cut because you still have a little bit of more repricing going on to market of the backbook. It's going to be over 60%. Right. But on the beginning of the rate cuts, we're assuming a total deposit beta of under 30% and we're still kind of trailing in a 30% handle into the fourth quarter. So we really don't assume the beta on the downward side to really kind of start to flow into our numbers until 2025.

Gary Tenner

Analyst

Right. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

This concludes our question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to management for closing remarks.

Kevin Kim

Analyst

Thank you. Once again, thank you all for joining us today and we look forward to speaking with you again in three months. Thank you. So long, everyone.

Operator

Operator

The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.