Hudbay Minerals Inc. (HBM) Q1 2022 Earnings Report, Transcript and Summary

Good morning. My name is Alex and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Copper Mountain Mining Corporation First Quarter 2022 Earnings Conference Call. All lines have been placed on mute to avoid any background noise. After the speakers' remarks, there will be a question-and-answer session [Operator Instructions]. Please note that comments made today that are not of a historical factual nature may contain forward-looking statements. This information by its nature is subject to risks and uncertainties that may cause the stated outcome to differ materially from actual outcomes. Please refer to Slide 2 of today's presentation and Copper Mountain's first quarter 2022 Management's Discussion and Analysis for more information. I will now turn the call over to Gil Clausen, President and CEO of Copper Mountain.

Good morning, everyone. And thanks for joining us. We're starting on Slide 3, presenting with me are Eric Dell, our Senior Vice President of Operations and Brad Bolger, our Vice President of Finance. I'll begin by discussing details on what impacted us so heavily in the first quarter. Eric will give a more detailed discussion on our operation along with an update on our concentrator expansion projects with the mine. Brad will present our financial results and then I'll wrap up with a summary of some of our upcoming milestones and then open the call to questions. Turning to Slide 4, getting through the quarter was a real challenge. Production was extremely low due to lower grades combined with low tonnage rates. The lower grade which was planned was due to almost all production coming from Phase 2. The tonnage was low due to the secondary crusher shaft damage in Q4 of last year, which forced us to run at reduced rates and deliver much coarser feed to the grinding circuit. We also had lower operating time due to major conveyor belt repairs to the SAG mill feed belt and modifications to the grinding circuit to run properly with coarser feed. But these issues are behind us now. New secondary crusher shaft delivered earlier this month was installed and operating by April 7. We're now ramping up the mill to target capacity of a steady state of 45,000 tonnes per day with Ball Mill 3, operating well as designed. In fact, we've been operating above the 45,000 tonne per day of late, and we have also ordered a spare secondary crusher shaft that will be arriving in August. We expect large throughput and production increases in the second quarter compared to the first and further we're beginning to mine ore from the north pit in Q2. And we'll start mining higher grade from Phase 4 mid-year. We expect production to be much stronger in the second half of the year. This production increase will have a positive impact on our cost per pound, cost this quarter were abnormally high because of the lower production rate and major non-recurring costs that are not planned to impact us for the balance of 2022. All in costs in Q1 were higher due to extensive maintenance backlog work. We completed on our shovels and drills, also building up spare parts inventory on shovel hydraulic hoses and systems to prepare the mine for increased production rates. In Q1, the company had to rent portable crushing equipment to produce crush waste for winter road material and for engineered crush mill for our sustaining capital projects, a task which is normally done with our secondary crushing circuit, because we have usually spare capacity there. That rental crushing plant has been demoed with the secondary crusher back to normal operation. We also increased maintenance contractor expenses during this period of heavy workload to assist with managing COVID-19 related maintenance workforce absences and also of course, to do that major conveyor belt repair experienced when we had that really severe cold weather that occurred late Q4 of last year. There were also other there non-recurring sustaining capital items as well. The costs associated with the assembly of the Trolley Assist haul trucks and payment for the installation of MineSense. MineSense sense actually has been a great addition to our fleet. It measures the actual copper ore grade in the shovel and loader bucket and has greatly improved our ore and waste selectivity in grade control. So these capital expense items will not recur this year as well. The construction of a new haul road underpass for vehicles leading to the mill and concentrator that began in Q1, this underpass will improve safety and greatly reduce haul truck cycle times and delays on our main waste haulage road by eliminating haulage interference from light and commercial vehicles that we're crossing the haul road to head to the mill. This road construction is expected to be complete mid this quarter. Also environmental water management projects were also included in our sustaining cost in Q1. Overall these are now all substantially complete with a few smaller scope projects left. All water management projects will be fully completed in Q3 of this year. To a lesser extent we did experience some inflationary pressures as well similar to everybody else in the industry. We saw diesel prices increased by about 60%. Steel prices are up 19% and other mill consumables up 10%. But with higher production levels throughout the remainder of the year and the non-recurring cost behind us, we expect unit cost to greatly improve in Q2 and even more significantly in this half of the year. However, we're increasing our all-in unit cost guidance to a range of US$2.25 to US$2 75 per pound, we are maintaining our production guidance of 80 million pounds to 90 million pounds of copper, but we're guiding at the bottom end of that range. We'll revisit our guidance each quarter as is our normal practice. Slide 5, despite an unpleasant quarter, we did have some big achievements. We exceeded our sustainability targets for last year, achieving at least an A rating on each of the TSM protocols. We also commissioned our Trolley Assist project. We have seven haul trucks that are now pantograph equipped and both ore and waste is being hauled up 1 kilometer trolley ramp. We're proud to be the first open pit mine to commission electric trolley assist in North America. Our electric-powered haul trucks will now travel up our haulage ramp at more than twice the speed of diesel trucks and at one-tenth of the energy cost and near zero GHG emissions, this is truly a huge success. Also in the quarter we completed the balance of the 2021 expiration drill program at the Copper Mountain Mine. We drilled to over 50,000 meters with about 28,000 meters at New Ingerbelle. We continue to see positive drilling results at New Ingerbelle, which extended mineralization at depth and to the west. That deposit remains open laterally and at a depth as does the Copper Mountain Main deposit and we're now working on updating the mineral reserve and mineral resource estimates with a new life of mine plant, which will include an expansion study as we've discussed in the past. All of which are progressing on schedule for mid-2022 release. Earlier in the quarter, we closed zero-cost collar option contracts for 3.3 million pounds of copper per month through the balance of the year with a floor price of US$4 per pound and an average ceiling price of US$4.91 per pound. I will now turn the call over to Eric who will provide more detail on our operating results and development projects.

Thanks Gill. I want to first start with an update on safety. The mine's injury frequency rates saw an uptick in the first quarter while injury severity remains similar to 2021, our lowest in almost five years. Management is putting additional focus on reducing the risks related to injury. Now we'll move on to production. Turning to Slide 6, the first quarter was challenging with production of 13.2 million pounds of copper. Production was lower than the first quarter of 2021 as a result of lower grades and reduced throughput. As Gil mentioned earlier, the lower grade was in line with our plan as we were mining mainly from the lower grade Phase 2 area. This would plan for the latter part of 2021 for the commissioning of Ball Mill 3. The lower throughput was a result of the damage in secondary pressure. Copper recovery was higher in Q1 2022 and it’s expected that the higher recovery will continue and further improve with the plant improvement projects that I’ll speak to in the subsequent slides. With the installation of the secondary crushers in shaft, the completion of our plant improvement projects, and as we begin to mine higher grade ore from Phase 4 in the second half of 2022. We expect production to be stronger in the second half of the year compared to the first half. Just to touch on costs before we move on. Costs were higher across the board when compared to Q1 2021. This was principally due to lower production, higher staining capital, and non-recurring operating costs as alluded to previously and to a lesser extent in inflation. Turning to Slide 7. Most of our ore came from the lower grade Phase 2 area of the Main Pit that was for commissioning of Ball Mill 3. Phase 4 pushback continues in Q1. We moved over 6 million tonnes of waste from Phase 4 accounting for 67% of the total waste movement in the quarter. Phase 4 mining is continuing to progress and is expected to be a main source of higher grade ore for the second half of 2022 and in 2023. Grades are expected to improve as the year progresses. North Pit pre stripping activities started in Q1 and then mill expects to be begin processing the North Pit ore in the first part of May. It should be noted that the North Pit has a low stripping ratio and low mining cost. Turning to Slide 8. We continue to invest in our plant to improve efficiencies, copper recovery and production. We achieved a significant milestone with the commissioning of Ball Mill 3 at the end of 2021. It is operating well. And now with the secondary crusher repaired, we have already started to operate at over 45,000 tonnes per day. And we’re working to consistently maintain this milling rate. We’re also installing another concentrate filter press and increasing cleaner circuit flotation capacity. The new filter press will be installed in an extension to the existing concentrate storage building as shown on the bottom left of this image. A single new large flotation column cell is being installed inside the existing mill building and an expansion of the rougher flotation circuit is taking place to the North of the mill building. Turning to Slide 9. The new filter press will allow the mill to maintain maximum tonnage rates while processing higher grade ore for extended periods. Concrete installation is complete and the filter press was delivered in Q1. Mechanical installation is now underway. The cleaner column expansion will support maximum cleaner circuit recovery for all ore types eliminating a production bottleneck at high grade and tonnage. The concrete work has been completed and the column has been installed. Both the filter press and the cleaner column expansion are advancing well and are on track for completion by the end of Q2 this year. The expansion of the rougher flotation circuit will further enhance rougher recoveries for all ore types. This project is also moving forward with most of the concrete work finished. The rougher expansion is expected to be completed in Q3. The combination of these three improvement – plant improvement projects are expected to increase copper recovery by 2% to 4% above current values. These projects are part of our longer-term growth plan and they generate significant value by increasing our overall return on invested capital in the mill. I’ll now turn the call over to Brad to go over our financial results.

Thanks, Eric. Starting on Slide 10, as noted by Gil, the company had a challenging first quarter, and this is reflected in the financial results. However, despite the challenges we faced in this quarter, the company recorded sales of 94 million from the sale of 13.5 million pounds of copper, approximately 5,000 ounces of gold and 60,000 ounces of silver. This compares to last year’s record quarter of 162 million on the sales of 27.5 million pounds of copper, about 8,500 ounces of gold and nearly 162,000 ounces of silver. This is based on an average copper price of US$4.54 per pound of copper as compared to US$3.90 per pound of copper for Q1 2021. Revenues were down significantly as compared to Q1 2021 due to production limitations caused by damage to the main shaft of the secondary crusher. Also and as planned, we process lower grade material during the quarter, which averaged 0.25% copper as compared to 0.42% copper in Q1 2021. Cost of sales in Q1 was $75.3 million as compared to $65.9 million in Q1 2021. Q1 cost of sales was net of $10.5 million of deferred stripping costs. While Q1 2021’s deferred stripping was $8 million. The increase in cost of sales is primarily a result of increased fuel costs during the quarter, which increased from a $1.13 per liter at the start of the quarter to around a $1.60 per liter per diesel at the end of the quarter. This is an additional to higher grinding media costs also experienced during the quarter. These higher costs combined with a few one time items such as the timing of mobile equipment repairs and maintenance and increased contractor support to assist with managing COVID-19 absences experienced early in the quarter also led to higher cost of sales for this quarter. This all resulted in a gross profit of $18.6 million as compared to a gross profit of $96.3 million for Q1 2021. So from here, you can really see the impact of reduced production and grade during the quarter. We’re certainly happy to have the secondary crusher’s main shafter placed and operating normally again. Turning to Slide 11. Slide 11 shows a net loss for the quarter was $4.2 million or $0.03 per share as compared to net income of $52 million or $0.18 per share for Q1 2021. For the non-GAAP performance measures, the company recorded EBITDA of $11.3 million for Q1 as compared to $96 million for Q1 2021. Despite the challenges we overcame this quarter, we were able to generate $33.3 million of cash flow from operations in Q1 2022. And after we deduct our investment capital for our growth projects of 37.6 million in this quarter, we ended the quarter with a strong cash position of $143.5 million. This was not a representative quarter for the company. And as we see production increase and cost improve for the remainder of the year, we expect to see our financials improve as well. I will now turn the call back over to Gil.

Thanks, Brad. Continuing on Slide 12. So with this quarter behind us, we’ll now be focused on increasing production and reducing cost. Of course, in Q2, we’ll be you mining predominantly from the North Pit as Eric said which is a lower cost pit. And then mostly from Phase 4 in the third and fourth quarter, which is higher grade. We’ll be mining heavily from Phase 4 through 2023, which drives the higher production guidance range of 90 to 105 million pounds of copper that we gave out for 2023. In Q2 and Q3, we’ll also be completing our three plant improvement projects, which will also contribute to higher production through improved recovery and capacity to handle higher grade tonnage. A big announcement is expected midyear, and this will be the publication of our updated mineral reserve and mineral resource estimate for the Copper Mountain Mining including all the drilling from our 2021 program that we just completed along with this updated estimate. We’ll also announce a new life of mine plan, which will test higher throughput rates. Later in the year, we expect to announce our next steps for Eva. 2022 is a year that we are really investing heavily in and advancing our growth. Our goal is to clearly demonstrate Copper Mountain scale potential. And with that, operator, we can open the call to questions.

Thank you, sir. [Operator Instructions] Your first question comes from Orest Wowkodaw with Scotia Capital. Please go ahead.

Oh, hi, good morning. Obviously, a tough Q1, but wanted to focus on some of the bigger picture at Copper Mountain. I realize you haven’t completed the life of mine new study and expansion plan at Copper Mountain, but I’m hoping sort of by this point, you have a pretty good idea of potential scale. And I’m wondering whether you have a sense of how big you’re planning with respect to the throughput expansion and sort of potential timing of that. I’m assuming it comes after Eva’s up and running. But any guidance there at this point would be really helpful.

Hey Orest, thanks for the question. Yes, we have the drill results. We’re kind of working our way through final pit designs and then we’ll be moving on to the phase schedules pretty quickly. We have been working on the plant and capital side of the equation at Copper Mountain looking at our plant capacities and flow sheets, et cetera. We’ve locked – basically locked down a flow sheet that’ll be our preferred flow sheet at the end of the day. There is, I think some significant opportunities here to reduce our overall energy consumption per pound a copper produced and to be able to I think really come up with an interesting and innovative way to get the throughput levels up at this mine. There’s a lot of – we’ve always mentioned, there’s a lot of invested capital already in the Copper Mountain plant and with just some additional incremental capital in that plant, we can significantly expand production. It’s a little too early to give final estimates of capital, but we told everybody in the past that we’d be looking at a 100,000 tonnes per day scenario relative to what we had previously assessed before, which was a 65,000 tonne per day case. And I would expect that, we’ll – we feel pretty comfortable with our ability to eventually potentially through this study get to a 100,000 tonnes per day through the concentrator. So without speaking out at school too early, I’d say I would look to that kind of a throughput rate as being a significant alternative for us at this time. We not finished all the work obviously yet. Still got some work to do to complete that assessment. In terms of timing of capital it’s going to be interesting when you look at the concept and the scale and the size potential of the resource and reserve expansions that were expected at Copper Mountain. We have a large deposit, it’s still all open. We already had in the past 50 years of resources, if you included inferred and we had 31 years of reserve. So it will really makes sense for us with this drilling program. We expect to expand on those reserves and resources significantly. So it makes sense to scale up. I would also say that the capital and the capital program no matter what is going to be somewhat incremental in nature will be able to develop the mine in a sequence that makes sense from an investment and return potential. You don’t have to do everything at once. What I’m saying with a new mine, you have to spend all the capital to get the mine up and running. I think we can do meaningful chunks of expansion with incremental – some incremental investment. So that is an advantage that existing mines have over new construction, but let’s we’ll wait and see what the study shows, but I think you’ll find that it’ll be an interesting development plan. And we expect to have that study out as we mentioned before midyear sometime it’d be more in the third quarter than obviously at the end of the second, in our view, we have to completely write the technical report and publish it with our results and that just to comply with Aussie regulations. So you’ll be able to see everything when we get that release out midyear.

Thanks for that Gil. And just as a follow-up, I mean, going up to potentially as big as a 100,000 tonnes a day would be more than doubling capacity. Would that – should we think of that as basically a twining of the current concentrator, like basically building another one, or is this just sort of incremental bolts on to the existing facility?

We believe we can get to that level without building another concentrator.

Wow. Okay. Thank you very much.

Yes, we’re doing a lot of innovative work on different technologies. We’ve seen some excellent results on hydro-flow technology and other technologies that work and will work potentially very well in our operations. So it’ll – I think you’ll find it a very interesting analysis and study when it comes out.

Thank you. Looking forward to it.

Thank you. Your next question comes from Bryce Adams with CIBC Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Good morning Gil and team. Thanks for taking my questions. Firstly, on the secondary crusher, once the change out was made in early April, I think you mentioned that the plant has been running at for about 45,000 tonnes per day. I just wanted to ask how reliably has that – has it been running at that run rate? Is it most days since April 7? Or would it be something less say 75% hitting that run rate with some days still working through ramp up issues?

Well, it was kind of a steady ramp up. We got pretty quickly up to 40,000 tonnes a day. You have to make some, we made some adjustments to, for the course of material and we basically, you have to start reversing those as well, when we had the secondary crusher problem, we were already sort of geared up to move to 45,000 tonnes a day. And we made cyclone adjustments. We made screen decks and adjustments, all kinds of adjustments to the circuit to get to 45. And then, we had to change that all back out in the first quarter, and then you get all that stuff going again, once the secondary crusher is repaired. But we’ve been running; let’s say, we’ve built up to the 45,000 tonne a day rate. And for the last consecutive, the last four or five days or so, we’ve been running over 45,000 tonnes a day so steadily. So we’ll see. I mean, the whole goal here is Eric pointed out is to make sure that we can consistently deliver that on average, month in, down hit that rate, but look certainly the circuit is there. It can handle it and we’ve run consistently days in a row here up until now, the most current information we have at 45 plus we had a 48,000 plus day, just a couple of days ago. So it’s running pretty well.

Yes, that sounds great. And maybe one for Eric, you mentioned the better recoveries in Q1. Are they a result of the reduced throughput or is there any early benefits from the filter press upgrade or the cleaner rougher projects. I think, and maybe you highlighted 2% to 4% improvement over the current levels, is that over the Q1 results of 82% or would that be over 2021 average, which was roughly 80%.

Yes, thanks Bryce. The increased recovery is related to a finer grind and that’s part of having Ball Mill 3 run. So as Gil mentioned, there’s some changes with the – within the mill due to the crusher damage. But we were able to get a much finer grind and that was part of the Ball Mill 3 design to get a finer grind and therefore higher copper recovery. And the 2% to 4% is related to really the increased cleaner column capacity and the rougher expansion, rougher flotation expansion. So that 2% to 4% is above, is an estimate above what our Q1 numbers are okay for recovery.

Got it. Thanks. And maybe my last one just a quick question on the North Pit, looks like the pit edge is pretty tight on the fixed plant. It gets quite close to the crusher and conveyor. Does that create a challenge or is that something that you can plan for and schedule accordingly?

Yes, that’s – we don’t see that as a major issue. We’ve had blasting close to infrastructure before and we do have engineering plans. Then we work with our well internal and external blasting consultants to ensure that we don’t have any damage to our fixed infrastructure.

Okay. That’s it for me. Thanks a lot, cheers.

Thanks, Bryce.

Thank you. Your next question comes from Craig Hutchison with TD. Please go ahead.

Right. Good morning, guys.

Hi Craig.

Maybe a follow up to Orest question with respect to the life of mine plan and the expansion study that could come out for the Copper Mountain Mining midyear, is there a potential scenario where that becomes the capital priorities for the company relative to Eva. Eva gets pushed out or is Eva really the goal here for the next two, three years in terms of capital allocation?

Well, Craig, a very good question. We’ve always intimated that the highest return on invested capital that we have is on our existing assets and really that is true. We have a great project in Eva. There’s no question. We were also the beneficiary of some basically good timing with respect to those two projects. And so that it created a nice window for construction activities to happen on Eva get that up into production and generating cash flow when we were looking at more significant expenditures at Copper Mountain. What we’re seeing in Queensland is, we’re seeing some real, still some real tightness in labor and material. There’s a heat – really overheated market in Australia right now for projects and we’re starting to see the materials flow, et cetera, and we’re advancing our engineering work very well, the detailed engineering work. We’ve been telling the market at the end of the third quarter, we’re going to make sure that we have sufficient information for our Board to make a decision on Eva. And if that would have to be in line with us being assured that we’ll be able to deliver that project on schedule and on budget. And that’s going to be dependent on what the markets looked like in Australia at that time. So I'm giving you a long prelude to an answer to your question, Craig, but, in terms of timing, there's that uncertainty in there right now, but look, that's a great project and it is as rare as hen’s teeth in the world and it's certainly in Australia. They're not really any good copper projects that development projects that could compare to Eva’s potential. So it's sort certainly is a priority for the company, but I'll be able to give you a much better and more fulsome answer to that question once we get closer to that time. But, we try to be, and our whole objective here is to make sure that we can deliver the best return to our shareholders and do everything in a responsible and prudent manner.

Would, would a partnership for Eva be on the table or even a potential sale, if the expansion study looks really solid for the Copper Mountain Mine?

Well, look, I got to be frank, as you know it's our duty as a management team to be able to prepare all alternatives for boards consideration when you're looking at projects and those kinds of options are certainly things that we would assess. And I don't think our board would expect any less. So when we're making a major decision on a project like that, you have to look at all the alternatives.

And then just maybe a couple of quick questions. The amount of spent at Eva in the quarter, the CapEx that was spent there, any color on how much was spent on Eva specifically?

On Eva specifically, we were just doing engineering on that, but I'll let Brad answer more fulsome lead if he has any.

Craig, I guess during the quarter, we spent close to $4 million on Eva. And that is to move forward engineering. And that would also be included with labor and other costs as we progress the project. And I know previously we had mentioned that we are moving towards 80% engineering on that and that's where those costs would be included.

Okay. And maybe just last question for me. Gil, you provided really good clarity in terms of grades for the year 2022. I think you mentioned that would be around the range of 0.27. Do you see that going higher now to get to the bottom end of the range or you still comfortable with the 0.27 and maybe any clarity just in terms of what the main pit will do, the Phase 4 of the main pit will do in Q4 would great?

Yeah, the main pit Phase 4 grades when we get that phase fully developed and is going to have grades that are not too dissimilar to what they were in Phase 3 of the main pits. So we're going to see significantly some significantly improved grades. And the north pit is an interesting pit it doesn't have as high grade, it's more like Phase 2 grade, but it's got really coarse mineralogy. It has really high recovery rates and it has a higher gold content. And it's right beside the crusher. So it's on surface and right. So it's cost and its stripping ratio is very low. So that from a cost perspective, north pit is one of our high priority pits. Although it doesn't have as good a grade as Phase 4, it has a lot of cost benefits. So you'll see, as we progress through the year that in the second quarter and certainly fully in the fourth quarter Phase 4 is going to be the main impetus, there'll be some, a little bit of Phase 5 pit ore in there as well, push back. But that north pit will also be an important pit for us in terms of cost and recovery and throughput, because it actually is not as hard as Phase 2 ore. In addition to its lower grade, had a higher pirate content, which depressed some of our copper recovery. And it also was hard. And so it had a couple of disadvantages that north pit doesn't have. So I think you'll see some significant improvements in the second half of the year.

Okay. Thanks guys.

Thanks Craig.

Thank you. Your next question comes from Pierre Vaillancourt with Haywood. Please go ahead.

Hey Gil, my question was actually asked regarding Eva. But just to clarify if you – are you aiming to make a construction decision at by year end or is it very fluid at this point and just not clear?

Well, I think we're going to get all the information to our Board of Directors, as we said, we would, at the time we said we would do that, which would be roughly around the end of the third quarter and so the construction decision and that discussion will be had with our board at that time. And like I said, we'll be looking at all the other alternatives so that we can present a recommended path to our board for their consideration. Now, with respect to the timing of that, it's going to be a little bit, if we do make a construction decision at that time, we'd have to consider where the supply chain is and what the risks are associated with construction in Queensland at that time. So I cannot answer at this point in time exactly when a construction start would occur, if that decision is made at that time, but we'll be ready for the board to consider all those options at the end of the third quarter.

And could you maybe provide a little bit of insight how the project financing is moving along? Is that slow much in the current context and some of the risks in front of us here for the rest of the year?

The project financing is moving along without any hiccups. I think we're just waiting for the final construction estimate, so which will come at the end of the detailed engineering phase, along with the actual final construction plan. So that we anticipate happening and occurring at the same pace as the – and be ready for a board decision at the same time. So we'll have an updated construction estimate that we'll take to the banks who are considering lending into this facility. And it's a project financing facility that we're considering. And we'll have that information to them, so they can take it to their final credit committee approvals and ready for a board decision on the project.

Okay and lastly one. Talking about mill ramping up to 45,000 tons per day, is this going to be achieved like steady state this quarter or?

Well, I'm hopeful. We're at steady state right now.

You're at steady state now. Okay.

Yeah. So, I mean, we've had, we've been running steadily every day at, at 45,000 or above for the last three, four days. So I want to make sure that on average, that we can deliver that average rate per calendar day. And so far, so good, we'll just keep working on it and making sure that we're in solid, steady state mode. But I don't see anything at this point in time and certainly Eric, if you have a comment on that.

Yeah. I agree with you Gil, we're – the last week we've been pretty steady at above 45,000 and so our goal is to maintain an average of 45,000 a day for sure. And there's nothing to indicate right now that we can't achieve that.

Okay. Thanks.

Okay. Thanks Pierre.

Thank you. Your next question comes from Alex Terentiew with Stifel. Please go ahead.

Yeah, good morning, everybody. I just got one question really on cost. I know you raised your cost guidance on sustaining cost guidance by or only cost guidance rather by $0.25. But in Q1, your sustaining CapEx looks like it was around US$8 million deferred stripping, probably just over that. Are your budgets for the year, I mean, prior, previously you gave guidance for the year of $10 million sustaining, which obviously would imply quite a bit less for the rest of the year and deferred stripping as well $27 million, so again, lower than Q1. Are those budgets still intact or have you added additional cost to that spending for the year?

There's a little bit, I think the deferred stripping goes into the AIC number. And I would suggest that we are probably going to be a little – maybe a little higher in the deferred stripping, but that all rolls into the AIC anyway, so that fits into our cost guidance. From the sustaining capital perspective, most of the big spends are there. We have seven new haul trucks delivered in the first quarter. We don't have any major equipment being delivered until probably next year, I think our sustaining capital will be a little higher than we had originally due to cost inflation pressures, but it shouldn't be. We're not going to see these kinds of expenditures like we had in the first quarter Alex, so I would say, if you looked at the percentage range that we are guiding above our cost guidance, if you just – you could probably work out where we'll be for the balance of the year. Because we thing we're pretty reasonable with that guidance.

Okay. That makes sense. Thank you.

Thank you. There are no further questions at this time, Mr. Clausen, you may proceed.

Well. Okay. Thank you very much, everybody for joining us today. Please stay healthy and safe. And we hope to talk to you all soon.

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