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HA Sustainable Infrastructure Capital, Inc. (HASI)

Q3 2025 Earnings Call· Fri, Nov 7, 2025

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Operator

Operator

Greetings, and welcome to HASI's Third Quarter 2025 Earnings Conference Call and Webcast. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to introduce your host, Aaron Chew, the Senior Vice President of Investor Relations.

Aaron Chew

Analyst

Thank you, operator, and good afternoon to everyone joining us today for HASI's Third Quarter 2025 Conference Call. Earlier this afternoon, HASI distributed a press release reporting our third quarter 2025 results, a copy of which is available on our website, along with the slide presentation we will be referring to today. This conference call is being webcast live on the Investor Relations page of our website, where a replay will be available later today. Some of the comments made in this call are forward-looking statements, which are subject to risks and uncertainties described in the Risk Factors section of the company's Form 10-K and other filings with the SEC. Actual results may differ materially from those stated. Today's discussion also includes some non-GAAP financial measures. A reconciliation of GAAP to non-GAAP financial measures is available in our earnings release and presentation. Joining us on the call today are Jeff Lipson, the company's President and CEO; as well as Chuck Melko, our Chief Financial Officer. And also available for Q&A are Susan Nickey, our Chief Client Officer; and Marc Pangburn, our Chief Revenue and Strategy Officer. To kick things off, I will turn it over to our President and CEO, Jeff Lipson. Jeff?

Jeffrey Lipson

Analyst

Thank you, Aaron, and thank you, everyone, for joining the call. Welcome to the HASI Q3 2025 Earnings Call. Before we discuss the prepared slides, I'd like to start the call today by reiterating 4 aspects of our business model and how they interact with recent market developments. One, the demand for energy continues to increase and virtually all forecasts expect this trend to continue. This demand will clearly result in greater supply, facilitating ongoing development by our clients, which in turn increases HASI's total addressable market. Therefore, the current underlying economic trends are a tailwind for our business. Additionally, if demand causes power curves to increase, our existing portfolio of investments will become increasingly more valuable. Two, the operating environment remains conducive to business-as-usual activities. Capital markets have experienced relatively low recent volatility, and our clients' pipelines continues to be active and growing. Therefore, the backdrop remains very supportive for expanding our investment volumes. Three, we continue to demonstrate that our business is able to achieve meaningful EPS growth in all interest rate environments. Since interest rates began to rise in 2022, we've been able to continue to grow our earnings with higher-yielding investments, prudent hedging strategies and opportunistic debt issuances. With 3 investment-grade ratings and our CCH1 co-investment vehicle, we have become even less exposed to changes in interest rates. If the yield curve steepens going forward, we do not expect any material impact on our profitability. And four, virtually all of our investment markets are currently providing attractive opportunities. Utility scale renewables and storage, distributed solar and storage, energy efficiency, renewable natural gas and transportation have all been active markets for us in 2025 and continue to be well represented in the pipeline. And we remain excited with the emergence of our pipeline of Next Frontier opportunities.…

Charles Melko

Analyst

Thank you, Jeff. On Slide 7, we highlight our Q3 profitability. And as you can see, we had meaningful growth in many of our key metrics. Jeff already highlighted our record quarterly adjusted EPS of $0.80, and our year-to-date adjusted EPS is at $2.04, up 11% year-over-year. This growth is driven largely by our primary source of revenue, adjusted recurring net investment income, which grew year-over-year by 42% in the quarter and 27% year-to-date. We are growing the recurring earnings portion of our adjusted EPS, and our equity efficiency has also helped us increase our year-to-date adjusted ROE to 13.4% compared to 12.7% for the same period last year. This growth in our adjusted ROE is demonstrating the meaningful benefits from our CCH1 co-investment vehicle, which I will speak to in a few slides. One last point on our metrics. Our GAAP net investment income does not include the earnings from our equity investments. Therefore, the adjusted recurring NII will continue to be greater than our GAAP NII. Now that I have highlighted the key results for the quarter, some additional context is useful. Jeff mentioned our diversified business model earlier, and I will add that it is also versatile, where we can generate value in different ways, such as through recurring earnings from the underwritten returns on our investments and also optimization transactions where we capture additional value that is embedded in our portfolio, such as through project-level refinancing activities, which we saw this quarter. These optimization transactions may not occur every quarter, but we consistently identify these opportunities year after year. Now on to Slide 8. Through the first 3 quarters of this year, we have closed $1.5 billion of transactions, which is greater than the same period last year. And when incorporating the transaction that Jeff spoke…

Jeffrey Lipson

Analyst

Thanks, Chuck. Turning to Slide 13, we display our sustainability and impact highlights, noting our cumulative carbon count and water count numbers reflect the significant impact of our investment strategy. We also remain very proud of our recognition, our targeted advocacy activities and the generosity of the HASI Foundation. Concluding on Page 14. To summarize the themes of this call, we just completed the most profitable quarter in the company's history, and we expect our investment volumes to exceed last year's by more than 30%. Economic trends remain favorable to our continued profitable growth. This success is the result of a resilient business model that focuses on asset level investing with long-term programmatic partners. Our approach also relies on disciplined underwriting and reasonable assumptions, and the model is further enhanced by a diversified and prudent approach to obtaining access to attractive sources of capital. Combining all of these elements with a talented and dedicated team results in consistent success despite periodic market volatility. Thank you, as always, to our talented team for this outstanding quarter. Operator, please open the line for questions.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] The first question comes from Jon Windham from UBS.

Jonathan Windham

Analyst

Great result, by the way. I'll be very specific. It sounds a lot like you're describing the SunZia project on Pattern Energy in New Mexico. Is there a reason you're not naming the project? That's sort of a quick question. And then any color you can talk about what sort of equity stake and the economics of it would be interesting.

Jeffrey Lipson

Analyst

Thanks, Jon. I appreciate the question. It is the SunZia project and as you described. And -- in terms of returns, I think we talked about it being consistent with returns on recent other transactions we've had in our grid-connected portfolio. So, I think that's probably the best way we could describe the return. And it is a preferred equity investment. So, it has some structure to it. It's not a common equity investment.

Jonathan Windham

Analyst

Right. This is similar to other wind investments you've made in the past, you sort of get paid first. That's on the equity stack.

Jeffrey Lipson

Analyst

Yes. That's correct.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from Chris Denginos from RBC.

Christopher Dendrinos

Analyst

Echoing Jon's comments on the solid quarter. I wanted to ask about the pipeline. And I think you mentioned $6 billion, so flat quarter-on-quarter, but you've got -- I guess, if you adjust in the $1.2 billion transaction in October, it'd be up significantly. So can you just maybe talk about the pipeline here? It looks like it's strengthened quite a bit quarter-on-quarter. And just curious what you're kind of seeing from that perspective, if there's any sort of demand pull forward going on as a result of?

Jeffrey Lipson

Analyst

Sure, Chris. I would say, as we discussed in the prepared remarks, we did replace the grid-connected pipeline, in particular, with enough new volume such that it didn't go down after this $1.2 billion transaction that we described. Beyond that, our pipeline disclosure is, of course, not precise. We say greater than $6 billion. So I know it's hard from the outside looking in to tell if it actually went up or down in the quarter. But it's certainly at above $6 billion at a level that we're comfortable we'll have enough to invest in, in 2026 to achieve our goals. And we're not seeing too much in the way of pull forward. I would describe what we're seeing as ordinary course. And as we talked about last quarter, folks executing on their pipeline, meaning our clients, everything they're working on now is grandfathered or safe harbor, but I don't really think this is the result of any kind of pull-through.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from Noah Kaye from Oppenheimer.

Noah Kaye

Analyst

I want to ask sort of a broader question around investments resulting from this announcement today, the $1.2 billion. We've historically thought about the business as making smaller investments spread across a large number of projects. This is a pretty big one. But of course, as you said, energy projects are getting bigger. You've talked about data centers as the Next Frontier asset class and they're getting just on the energy infrastructure, this type of investment. So, I guess, how should we think about this investment and what it signals for your appetite to take on larger single projects going forward?

Jeffrey Lipson

Analyst

Well, it's a good question, Noah. We've built the business on some small and modest-sized transactions over time, but we've always, at least after -- since 2020, supplemented that with some larger transactions as well. I think this transaction is a reflection in many ways of our access to capital through both being investment grade and our CCH1 relationship. The amount of capital we can bring to the table is more significant. So, we've become a player in these larger transactions. And when it makes sense, we'll do that. We're, of course, going to manage our risk accordingly. I talked about half of this being in CCH1 and some other pathways to a lower long-term hold level. So, we're certainly managing our risk. But in terms of your broader question of how we think about the business, I think you should think about the business as we're being active in both smaller transactions where we've historically found great value and continue to find opportunities, but also supplemented by some periodic larger transactions where it makes sense for us. And so, I think this is in many ways -- I use the word milestone, but it's we graduating into access to some of these larger transactions, which are going to be more frequent, as you mentioned, because of data centers and the grid-connected development focusing on larger projects.

Noah Kaye

Analyst

It is a milestone, and we want to recognize that. A housekeeping item, just the ABS, the SunStrong ABS refinancing. Can you kind of quantify what the benefit was to the quarter in that because the ROE expansion this quarter was pretty noticeable?

Jeffrey Lipson

Analyst

Sure. And I'm going to ask Chuck to do that. But before I do that, Noah, I'm going to clarify a little bit a few items around SunStrong. I expected us to get a question on it, and I don't want there to be any confusion about what this distribution was. So let me just answer that a little more broadly and say we often refer to SunStrong and folks talking about us refer to SunStrong in a singular capacity, but we actually own 50% of 2 separate entities. One of them is SunStrong Capital Holdings, which is an AssetCo that primarily owns solar leases, most of which have been securitized. And the distribution we received this quarter was the result of refinancing the ABS debt, which due to de-levering and the very strong performance of the underlying leases resulted in essentially a cash out refi. So, there was meaningful cash distribution to the equity owners. And going forward, as an equity owner in SunStrong Capital Holdings, we'll just get the normal distributions from the waterfall of the securitized assets. The refi was a bit of a onetime. Now separate from that, we own 50% of SunStrong Management or SSM, as we call it, which is truly an operating business that provides servicing to consumer and commercial loans and leases, including the legacy SunPower and Sunnova portfolios. Now SSM is an operating business. It has its own executive team. It's performing very well. It has a business plan, which includes ongoing growth in the platform and expansion ideas. And our accounting for our SSM investment is as an equity method investment that we hold at fair value. So to the extent the underlying value of SSM increases, that would positively impact HASI's earnings. So I just wanted to create that clarification of when we say SunStrong, what we actually mean. This distribution that we're talking about in the third quarter was from SunStrong Capital Holdings. So sorry for the deviation to your actual question, I'm going to defer to Chuck.

Charles Melko

Analyst

Noah, so our investment in SunStrong consisted of both mezzanine level loans as well as a small amount of equity. The total proceeds from the ABS that we received was around $240 million. And the composition of that was roughly about $200 million of it went to pay off our mezzanine loans. of which we're redeploying back into additional accretive investments. But then we also -- the other remaining $40 million was related to our equity, of which we did have some small investment, like I said. And of that $40 million that we received, roughly about $24 million of it was a gain in excess of our investment. So the impact to the quarter was $24 million.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from Davis Sunderland from Baird.

Davis Sunderland

Analyst

Congrats on an awesome quarter. Just one for me. I wanted to ask just how much the tax credit changes from Big Beautiful Bill have maybe impacted the types of investments you're seeing by asset class? And I guess the root of my question is just wondering if you've seen any opportunities in the last couple of months in discussions to step into a potential hole in the cap stack or any other ways that there have been puts or takes.

Jeffrey Lipson

Analyst

Sure. Thanks, Davis. I'm going to ask Susan to answer that one.

Susan Nickey

Analyst

I think at this point, with the extension of the tax credits for wind and solar, by and large, for 5 years with safe harbor and started construction and storage and some of the other credits that extend longer, I think we're still seeing the traditional combination of tax equity structures and transfer structures to dominate the market. So, we're still -- we still have this longer transition period before we expect to see a change in the capital stack to not include tax credits.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from Maheep Mandloi from Mizuho.

John Hurley

Analyst

Jack on for Maheep here. Congrats on the quarter. A lot of third-party ownership have talked about prepaid leases. Is that a kind of product that would interest you guys? And would you see similar yields as traditional leases?

Jeffrey Lipson

Analyst

Sure. Thanks, Jack. I'm going to ask Marc to answer that one.

Marc T. Pangburn

Analyst

Jack, that's something that we could certainly take a look at but haven't been presented any opportunities yet. So we'll have to defer on that until the future.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from Vikram Bagri from Citibank.

Unknown Analyst

Analyst

It's Ted on for Vik. Just looking at the principal collections, it looks like it was a larger quarter with about $382 million returns. Could you just give some insight into what the maturity profile and roll-off schedule of the existing portfolio looks like? Should we expect the pace of that to potentially increase as you approach the new wind investment?

Charles Melko

Analyst

Yes. This is Chuck. So, the $300 million number that you're seeing there, the biggest driver of why that's a little bit higher has to do with the SunStrong refinancing that I just mentioned. When I said that roughly about $200 million of the proceeds went to pay down the mezz loans that came through that line. So that was a little bit of an acceleration of normal amort profile that you'll see from our portfolio. But the way I generally think of it is that the lives of our assets, weighted average life is around 10 years or so. So you could expect looking at our portfolio that our amort in any given period will mirror that.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] The next question comes from Mark Strouse from JPMorgan.

Michael Fairbanks

Analyst

This is Michael Fairbanks on for Mark. Just wondering if you could talk about how this large transaction and the $3 billion of volumes this year might impact the EPS growth algorithm in '26 and beyond. I know you reaffirmed the 8% to 10% range, but should we be thinking about a possible step-up in '26 from these volumes?

Jeffrey Lipson

Analyst

Thanks, Michael. Good question. Our cadence has consistently been to talk about guidance in February, and I think we're going to stick to that. So we're working diligently right now on our business plan with our Board. And I think we'll have more to say about '26 and '27 in February.

Michael Fairbanks

Analyst

Okay. Great. And then maybe just for a follow-up. It looks like SunZia was excluded from the greater than $6 billion pipeline, which makes sense. Just wondering if it was included in that number last quarter?

Jeffrey Lipson

Analyst

It was. It was in last quarter's pipeline. That's correct.

Operator

Operator

The next question is a follow-up question from Chris Dendrinos from RBC.

Christopher Dendrinos

Analyst

I just wanted to follow up here. And I think you mentioned during your prepared remarks, the really low rate of bad debt. I think bp Lightsource or subsidiary had reported a default with one of their suppliers. And I'm curious, I think you all have worked with them in the past. Is there anything related to that, that would impact you all?

Jeffrey Lipson

Analyst

Thanks, Chris. No, there wouldn't be. We do work with bp Lightsource. But again, we're monetizing project cash flows. And the challenge that you discussed has no impact on the project in which we're invested.

Operator

Operator

Thank you very much. There are no further questions at this time. Ladies and gentlemen, that does conclude today's conference for today. You may now disconnect your lines at this time, and thank you very much for your participation.