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GitLab Inc. (GTLB)

Q3 2022 Earnings Call· Mon, Dec 6, 2021

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Operator

Operator

00:03 Thanks for joining us today for GitLab's Third Quarter twenty twenty two Financial Results. Today, GitLab's Co-Founder and CEO, Sid Sijbrandij; and GitLab's Chief Financial Officer, Brian Robins will provide commentary on the quarter. Please note, we will be opening up the call for panelists' questions. To ask a question, please use the chat feature. Post your question directly to the IR chat channel using the drop-down menu. 00:29 With that, I'll turn the call over to Taylor Giles of The Blueshirt Group to cover the Safe Harbor.

Taylor Giles

Management

00:35 Thank you, Kevin. Before we begin, during this conference call, we may make forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Federal Securities laws. These statements involve assumptions and are subject to known and unknown risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those discussed or anticipated. For a complete discussion of risks associated with these forward-looking statements in our business, we encourage you to refer to our earnings release distributed today and our SEC filings, including our Quarterly Report on Form 10-Q for the fiscal quarter which ended, October thirty one, twenty twenty one. 01:16 Our forward-looking statements are based upon information currently available to us. We caution you not to place undue reliance on forward-looking statements and we do not undertake any duty or obligation to update or release any revisions to any forward-looking statements or to report any future events or circumstances, or to reflect the occurrence of unanticipated events. 01:40 In addition, during this call, certain financial performance measures may be discussed that differ from comparable measures contained in our financial statements prepared in accordance with US Generally Accepted Accounting Principles, referred to by the Securities and Exchange Commission as non-GAAP financial measures. These non-GAAP measures are not intended to be a substitute for our GAAP results. We believe these non-GAAP financial measures assist management and investors in evaluating our performance and comparing period-to-period results of operations as discussed in greater detail in the supplemental schedules to our earnings release. A reconciliation of these non-GAAP measures to the most comparable GAAP financial measures is included in our earnings press release submitted to the SEC. These reconciliations together with additional supplemental information are available at the Investor Relations section of our website. A replay of today's call will also be posted on the website. 02:41 I will now turn the call over to GitLab's Co-Founder and Chief Executive Officer, Sid Sijbrandij.

Sid Sijbrandij

Management

02:49 Thank you for joining us for our first quarterly earnings call as a public company. We had a great quarter and we're excited to share today we exceeded our own expectations for the third quarter of fiscal year twenty twenty two with revenue of sixty six point eight million dollars. This represents revenue growth of fifty eight percent year-over-year this quarter. Our dollar based net retention rate was above one thirty percent, reflecting the significant return on investment that GitLab provides to our customers. 03:22 As we look forward, we are seeing continued strong momentum for customers adopting The DevOps Platform and we feel we are still early in a large and growing market. 03:34 I want to take a moment to express my gratitude to our investors, customers, the wider community and team members. We are excited to share more details with you about the quarter and our overall business, but first I want to reflect on our initial public offering. I believe we are the first all-remote and most transparent company to go public. Our value of transparency has been prevalent as we've scaled the business. One example of this transparency is our publicly accessible Handbook, which is more than two thousand webpages documenting how we run GitLab. 04:11 Another example of our transparency took place on listing date, October fourteen, twenty twenty one. GitLab was the first company to publicly stream its entire end-to-end listing Day at NASDAQ. You can watch the recording of the live stream by searching GitLab History. 04:30 While our IPO was a major milestone for GitLab, it was one of the many important steps in the evolution of the company. Because this is our first earnings call, I thought it might be helpful to go over the history of DevOps. I'll…

Brian Robins

Management

13:48 Thank you, Sid, and thank you again to everyone for joining us today. I will quickly recap our third quarter financial results and key operating metrics and then conclude with our guidance. 13:59 Before I dive into the quarter, I'll give a brief overview of our go-to-market strategy and our business model. In today's innovative world, we believe that every company must become a software company or they will be disrupted by a software company. GitLab goes to the market with a proven land and expand model to help organizations modernize their DevOps. Because customers often come to us seeking to address their most immediate needs and for the best developer experience. We have seen viral adoption and expansion of our platform. This is evidenced by our best-in-class dollar-based net retention that has consistently been over one thirty percent. 14:38 Our platform is offered with a free version and two paid subscriptions tiers, Premium and Ultimate, which are priced per user and based on the features available within those plans. The free version and both the paid subscription tiers are available as a SaaS and self-managed offering. Ultimate continues to be our fastest growing plan. Going forward, we expect our SaaS offering, which is recognized ratably to become a larger portion of our business. Our self-managed offering has both ratable and upfront revenue recognition, including a license component which is usually less than ten percent of the contract value and is recognized upfront. Post contract support, which is usually about ninety percent of the contract value is recognized ratably and over the contract period. 15:24 Our contract terms are typically annual deals with cash collected upfront. Historically, we have had some multi-year contracts where multiple years were invoiced upfront. However, we expect the vast majority of our multi-year deals…

Operator

Operator

19:43 19:44 Our first question should be coming from Kash Rangan.

Kash Rangan

Analyst

19:49 Hi. Thank you very much, and congratulations on the first quarter as a public company. Sid, I'm curious if you could give us an update on your perspective in a post-pandemic world, if that were to ever happen, how does software development and release cycle changes? It became faster or about the same? And also if you could just give us a quick commentary on the competitive landscape, any interesting displacements that you did that put you on the strategic roadmap for large Fortune 500 corporations? Thank you so much, and congrats again.

Sid Sijbrandij

Management

20:21 Yes. Thanks, Kash. I appreciate it. We continue to see strong demand for The DevOps Platform and compared to a quarter ago we saw that the labor market for developer, security experts and operators got tighter. So we believe that with GitLab customers can get more done with the people they have, and right now they're really struggling to hire more people. For example, at T-Mobile, they increased their delivery frequency by ten times due to GitLab, so ten times more frequent updates to their software and we believe we're still early and what we believe is a massive market with untapped potential.

Kash Rangan

Analyst

20:59 Right. And the comment on any competitive displacements or any changes in the competitive arena where you are poised to take more share relative to the competition? Thank you so much.

Sid Sijbrandij

Management

21:09 Yes. We -- it's still the case that we're competing with DIY DevOps. According to the latest Gartner numbers that came out in October, they see the adoption of DevOps platforms being at twenty percent right now. They see that grown to sixty percent by twenty twenty four, but right now it's all about customers replacing their point solutions with a platform and convincing them that that is the way forward.

Kash Rangan

Analyst

21:39 Brilliant. Thank you so much. Happy Holidays.

Sid Sijbrandij

Management

21:42 You too. Thanks, Kash.

Operator

Operator

21:45 Next up, we will move to Sterling Auty.

Sterling Auty

Analyst

21:48 Yes. Thanks. Hi, guys. So you had mentioned the different pricing tiers that you've got. I'm curious what you saw in terms of -- in the quarter, what -- any additional shift that you might have seen towards that Ultimate tier and any impact on the business?

Sid Sijbrandij

Management

22:05 Thanks, Sterling. Ultimate continues to be our fastest growing tier, that more than doubling year-over-year. As we continue to drive business outcomes to these customers, let's say, in the increased ROI. And so we're really happy with the growth in Ultimate.

Sterling Auty

Analyst

22:20 And then one follow-up also and kind of about our metrics, when you look at to get over seventy percent growth in customers spending over one hundred thousand dollars with you, can you give us a sense, is that just those customers existing adding more developers? Is it a shift to Ultimate? Is it brand new customers, what's kind of the mix or makeup of the growth in that top tier for you?

Sid Sijbrandij

Management

22:43 So in the customers, we see the majority of it from existing customers adopting more users and then second is up tiring.

Sterling Auty

Analyst

22:54 Got it. Thank you.

Sid Sijbrandij

Management

22:56 Thank you.

Operator

Operator

22:59 Next up, we have a question from Rob Owens.

Rob Owens

Analyst

23:02 Great. Good afternoon, and thanks for taking my question. I'd love to dovetail Sterling's question a little bit and understand just how you're landing with customers, are you landing larger at this point? And are you landing broader with customers in terms of that use case than more of the platform proposition? Thanks.

Sid Sijbrandij

Management

23:21 Thanks, Rob. We're continuing to see bigger land as well as more expansion. On the land side we are landing larger, average new ARR for new lands had a meaningful year-over-year increase and on the expand side, we're really happy with our expansion. Our net dollar retention continues to be in excess of one thirty percent which is best in class. It's driven more by -- it's driven by new users as well as up tiring ultimate and then also we don't see many people leaving, so we don't really have contraction or loss of customers.

Rob Owens

Analyst

23:58 And relative to that mix of Ultimate then, are you landing more often with Ultimate say than you were a year ago at this point?

Brian Robins

Management

24:05 Yes. We -- Ultimate is continuing to grow faster and we're landing more with Ultimate and then we're also seeing of up-tier to Ultimate.

Rob Owens

Analyst

24:12 Thank you much, Brian.

Brian Robins

Management

24:13 Yup. Thanks, Rob.

Operator

Operator

24:16 Next up, we have a question from Joel Fishbein.

Joel Fishbein

Analyst

24:19 Hey, congrats on the quarter, gentlemen. And I just have a quick follow-up to Rob's question. Brian, where are you in terms of sales productivity and also building up the enterprise sales force, that would be helpful?

Brian Robins

Management

24:33 Yes, Joel. We believe the productivity remains healthy and continues to get better. We currently can anticipate continue to build sales team in all market segments. And so we're adding an enterprise at a mid-market and some in S&P as well. And so we add -- this quarter, we added a number of new salespeople and happy with their productivity.

Joel Fishbein

Analyst

24:58 Great. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

25:02 Moving on now to Koji Ikeda.

Koji Ikeda

Analyst

25:06 Hey, Sid. Hey, Brian. Congrats on a nice first quarter and your IPO. I was wondering if you could tell us how your conversations may have changed or evolved over the past year with your customers and prospects and their thinking with letting developers being able to choose their own DevOps tools, maybe for speeder or familiarity maybe versus taking a more standardization approach from the top down. What typically is the catalyst that drives more of a top-down standardization strategy?

Sid Sijbrandij

Management

25:33 Yes. Thanks for that question. So what companies are seeing is that integration efforts are growing. They have more and more DevOps tools and at the same time the number of projects that they have within the company is growing at the same time. So to get it that's causing an exponential increase in [indiscernible] protect tools integrations and that effort is becoming unsustainable. And that's why they're going towards The DevOps Platform. 26:01 Think of it as -- as you get more electronics, you had a Walkman, you had a camera, you had a flashlight; as more and more electronics became available, you were carrying more and more things with you. It wasn't sustainable, no one's going to carry around a belt with all these things. You want an iPhone. You want something that integrates all of that in a single device.

Koji Ikeda

Analyst

26:21 Got it. Thanks. And then maybe just one quick follow-up for Brian. I think in your prepared remarks, you mentioned something about lower-than-expected team growth. Just wanted to double-click on that a little bit. Can you walk us through that comment? Was this because you were maybe a bit front-loaded last year, maybe at the beginning of this year and this is a pause year or is there anything else we should be aware of there? Thank you.

Brian Robins

Management

26:42 Yeah. Thanks for the question. We just wanted to point that out. When Sid and I were on the road, we talked about the number one objective was growth, but we do that responsibly. We added more team members this quarter than any of the last six quarters. And so we did have a big quarter vetted in team members, but we had it less anticipated and so that fell to the bottom line. We'll look at reinvesting that back in the business when we can.

Koji Ikeda

Analyst

27:07 Got it. Thanks, Brian. Thanks, guys. Appreciate it.

Brian Robins

Management

27:09 Thank you.

Operator

Operator

27:12 Moving on now to a question, I believe, from Jeff Hickey.

Jeff Hickey

Analyst

27:15 Hi, guys. Thanks take some on for Karl. The first question I have is, how do you think about the broader opportunity with you have over thirty million registered users, the numbers out there around the estimated number of professional developers, but the opportunity you have is much broader outside of maybe more technical audience. So the first part would be, how do you think about that moving forward as you move away from just use cases primarily focused on source code management?

Brian Robins

Management

27:44 Thanks, Jeff. We think that the broader opportunity is enormous. If you look at us today combined with GitHub, we think, combined we're less than three percent. It's a forty billion dollar TAM and we're just getting started. So we're really early in the market. Every company has to become a software company or you're going to lose and we're helping software companies -- we're helping companies make software better, faster and more secure and the ROIs that we're driving in the business outcomes are extremely positive. So we're really excited about the opportunity in front of us.

Jeff Hickey

Analyst

28:20 Got it. And then one quick follow-up would be on just the billings growth. I think you guys were lapping a big deal or something in Q3 last year. Could you elaborate more on that? And is billings a metric we should really focus on going forward or do you expect it to be volatile?

Brian Robins

Management

28:37 Yes, billings is a little choppy and so we tried to steer people away from billings when we're on the road, in particular short term billings is a little lower this quarter. But if you remove professional services and true ups and then the billing from one of the largest deals in company history last quarter, the growth rate is consistent from the last couple of quarters. When you see our 10-Q, RPO grew seventy percent year-over-year and our ARR growth for 3Q exceeded that.

Jeff Hickey

Analyst

29:10 Got it. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

29:13 Matt Hedberg has our next question.

Matt Hedberg

Analyst

29:16 Hi, guys. Thanks for taking my questions. I think, Brian you mentioned SaaS is growing north of one hundred percent, is it continues to increase in the mix? Does that open up new ways for you to leverage data to make the platform even more robust, maybe it's even from a customer benchmarking perspective?

Sid Sijbrandij

Management

29:35 Yes. I'll take that question if you don't mind, Matt. It's a great question and it does, it does open up new possibilities. You mentioned benchmarking. Another thing is that we can train ML models that accelerates cycle time. For example, figure out who to assign something to. And also we can make more relevant suggestions to embrace new GitLab functionality. And these improvements don't just benefit our SaaS customers, we can frequently reuse them to also benefit our self-managed customers.

Matt Hedberg

Analyst

30:06 That is super exciting considering the growth in that product. And then my second question, on the security side, I think we're all aware of the DevSecOps movements and sort of shift left. When you think about where you can take your security portfolio longer term, how do you think about that beyond sort of releasing package today?

Sid Sijbrandij

Management

30:26 Yeah. Thanks for that. We are really bullish on what we already have. Our Secure Stage is the most complete offering in the market, that's static analysis, secret detection, code quality, dynamic analysis, API security, first testing, dependency scanning, license compliant and vulnerability management. We anticipate that we'll be further expanding into Protect Stage. In that stage, we already offer basic versions of container scanning, security orchestration, container whole security and container network security.

Matt Hedberg

Analyst

30:59 Well done, guys.

Brian Robins

Management

31:01 Thank you.

Sid Sijbrandij

Management

31:02 Thank you. Operator 31:03 And a question now from Derrick Wood.

Derrick Wood

Analyst

31:06 Great. Thanks. And I'll echo my congrats. First one for Sid. I mean given the trend of companies wanting to buy a DevOps Platform, how do you think about selling more bundles out of the gate, like create and verify, sold as an initial sale out of the gate, is that something we could see more of or is it still going to be a motion of landing in one area and then expanding from there?

Sid Sijbrandij

Management

31:33 Yes. Thanks for that question. And what's important to know about our pricing model is that every tier includes every stage. So even in our free tier, you get all the stages of GitLab. We charge for functionality on top of that. If that functionality is aimed at an executive, it will be in our Ultimate tier. 31:52 If you look at how customers adopt it, it's a gradual process. It's not possible to rip and replace. This DevOps process is so core to what customers do, it's really hard to change everything day one. If you look at the Forrester study we released together, you find that customers replace three-point solutions in the first year, in the second year and then the third year, a linear pace of adoption. So customers can keep growing with GitLab for a very, very long time.

Derrick Wood

Analyst

32:23 That is helpful. And, Brian, you're modeling pretty minimal deceleration in growth in Q4. So I guess a couple of questions. I mean you alluded to the -- why there was a tough comp in Q3, does that more normalize in Q4? Is there anything else to think about it? And then, I think you guys have a decent amount of government business, can you remind us what government seasonality is in Q3 and is there some seasonal downtick in Q4? Just kind of flush out the second half seasonal motions.

Brian Robins

Management

33:00 Absolutely. Thanks for the question. Derrick from a public perspective 3Q is the biggest quarter for them, and so, it be lighter for us in 4Q. And then on the velocity or the acceleration in growth, really the reference there was to the billings number, the billing scheme and the calculated total billings year-over-year and calculated current billings year-over-year growth was lower and so wanted to explain the normalization on that. And then on the revenue growth, fifty eight percent this quarter, we guided full year at the implied growth rate of sixty percent to sixty one percent.

Derrick Wood

Analyst

33:42 Helpful. Got it. Thank you.

Sid Sijbrandij

Management

33:44 Yep. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

33:46 All right. Moving on to Michael Turits.

Michael Turits

Analyst

33:49 Hey guys. Sid, Brian everybody, congratulations. So Brian question for you and go to market and engagement with the customers. How is it going, especially as you build out the enterprise sales force in terms of selling more top down as opposed to bottoms up to developers and are you starting to see that kind of standardization across the enterprise as you move up in terms of what you are selling?

Brian Robins

Management

34:15 Yes. Thanks Michael and appreciate the comments on the quarter. We've been a direct sales motion to the enterprise really since the company's inception. We just added some additional go to market motions over the last year, which are new, but are very -- the early results are very positive and that's channel alliances, partnerships and so forth. 34:40 And so, as you know our normal sales motion sort of is sort of you land relatively small and then expand within the client, but there are examples, such as UBS where we did wall to wall implementation in less than a year. And so we do land at the top some times as well. And so, we do both motions, but the one where you land in the division department, one hundred licenses at a time is probably the more normal motion for us.

Michael Turits

Analyst

35:12 And then Sid, if I could squeeze one in with you. I think many, many customers, I think your core -- you might want to think of as code repository FCM and CI, but can you talk a little bit, I know you talked about security, but talk a little bit more about expansion into the CD pipeline management side in that direction? And how you have been successful there?

Sid Sijbrandij

Management

35:33 Thanks for the question, Michael. We do land with source code management and testing code and that testing code is now also proper land. So it's not just source control, some customers uses exclusively for testing the code. From there, from those two land areas we expand in secure package and release. So we secure replacing solutions like checkmarks, like Synopsys, like BlackRock package would be replacing things like JFrog auto factory. When release we commonly replace custom scripts that the customer made before better are hard to maintain. Those are our expansion points and we're investing there and especially Secure has driven a lot of up tiering to Ultimate, because it's really important for customers to test one hundred percent of their projects one hundred percent of the time.

Michael Turits

Analyst

36:29 All right. Thanks, Sid. Thanks, Brian.

Sid Sijbrandij

Management

36:32 Thank you, Michael.

Operator

Operator

36:33 And we'll take a question from Jason Ader.

Jason Ader

Analyst

36:36 Yeah, hi guys. My question is on the accelerants to growth in calendar twenty twenty two, fiscal twenty twenty three. If you have to talk through the kind of different accelerants whether it's adding more sales head count, more channel alliances or more product releases. How would you kind of think about those three elements, or maybe there are some other accelerants that I'm not thinking about?

Brian Robins

Management

37:03 Yes. Thanks, Jason. As I stated earlier, it's a forty billion dollars TAM barely penetrated and so there is a lot of different areas. One is, we're getting -- continue to do more product investment and so the more investment we do in product, the more differentiated and the driving the more positive business outcomes. Secondly is, we will land new logos. And so when we have new logo expansion, obviously we hit landed TAM. And then we can expand them and also up tier them. We're also investing in channel and alliances and then we're doing international expansion. And so there is a number of different areas that I think give us opportunity to continue to grow in this very enormous market.

Jason Ader

Analyst

37:49 And do you expect the average new ARR, Brian to continue to trend higher.

Brian Robins

Management

37:56 It has done that historically. I can't make a forward-looking statement. But historically, it has every quarter.

Jason Ader

Analyst

38:04 Thank you, guys.

Brian Robins

Management

38:05 Yes. I appreciate it Jason.

Operator

Operator

38:10 And with that, I'll turn things back over to Sid for any additional or closing remarks.

Sid Sijbrandij

Management

38:17 Yeah, thanks so much. Those were some great questions. I thank you very much for joining this call. It's great to be able to announce our first earnings and I want to thank our investors, the wider community around GitLab contributing. Our team members, our users and our customers for the great quarter. Thank you very much.

Operator

Operator

38:40 Ladies and gentlemen. Thanks again once more for joining us. Have a great day