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Q1 2024 Earnings Call· Tue, Apr 30, 2024

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Operator

Operator

Good morning or good afternoon, and welcome to the Graphic Packaging First Quarter 2024 Earnings Call. My name is Adam, and I will be your operator today. [Operator Instructions] I will now hand the call to Melanie Skijus to begin. So Melanie, please go ahead when you are ready.

Melanie Skijus

Analyst

Good morning, and welcome to Graphic Packaging Holding Company's First Quarter 2024 Earnings Call. Joining us on our call today are Mike Doss, the company's President and CEO; and Steve Scherger, Executive Vice President and CFO. To help you follow along with today's call, we will be referencing our first quarter earnings presentation, which can be accessed through the webcast and also on the Investors section of our website at www.graphicpkg.com. Before I turn the call over to Mike, let me remind you that today's press release and the presentations made by our executives include forward-looking statements as defined in the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from our expectations and projections. These risks and uncertainties include, but are not limited to, the factors identified in the release and in our filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. With that, let me turn the call over to Mike.

Michael Doss

Analyst

Thank you, Melanie. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us on the call today. As those who joined us for our Investor Day in February are aware, Graphic Packaging's transformation to a global leader in sustainable consumer packaging is well advanced. We spent the last 8 years building a stronger, more diverse consumer packaging portfolio capable of delivering more consistent results, solid growth and substantial cash flow. During the first quarter, the strength and balance in that portfolio was on full display as the consumer purchasing patterns continue to shift, we moved with them. We are seeing volume improvement in certain markets and customer categories. And excluding the impact of the Augusta bleached paperboard manufacturing facility sale, we expect to generate positive full year sales growth in 2024 as we partner with our customers to deliver the sustainable packaging solutions that consumers prefer. Let's start with a brief overview of results. In the first quarter, Graphic Packaging sales were $2.3 billion. Adjusted EBITDA was $443 million and adjusted EPS was $0.66. As Steve will discuss later the biggest part of the sales decline and essentially all of the EBITDA decline was a function of our decision to reduce production of bleached paperboard to match demand. In the context of that decision, adjusted EBITDA margin down just 30 basis points at 19.6% is an outstanding result and demonstrates the strength of our portfolio and the strong execution our team delivered. Holiday timing and fewer shipping days accounted for about 2% of the sales decline. Turning to Slide 3. At our Investor Day in February, we introduced ambitious targets that are better aligned with the sustainable consumer packaging leader that we have become. You can find a replay of each presentation on the Investor Relations website, and I encourage you…

Stephen Scherger

Analyst

Thank you, Mike. turning to Slide 10. In the first quarter, our portfolio did what it was designed to do, driving consistency in overall sales while managing changing consumer purchasing patterns. More than half of the 7% drop in reported net sales reflected our decision to produce and sell less paperboard in the open market. But somewhat unusual first quarter calendar with fewer shipping days even with leap year and the timing of the Easter holiday reduced our packaging volumes by about 2%. The normal pass-through of input costs in our European business reduced sales by approximately 1%. On a days adjusted basis, our sales were down about 1% year-over-year, a good improvement sequentially, but modestly shy of the flattish result we were expecting. Turning to EBITDA. Effectively, all of the decline was a function of our decision to reduce production and open market sales of bleached paperboard for the carbon market consistent with our practice of matching supply with demand. Even with that negative impact, we delivered a 19.6% adjusted EBITDA margin just 30 basis points lower than a year ago, when our open market paperboard sales were much stronger. That kind of margin consistency is the result of a strong and balanced portfolio with solid execution and cost control. Turning to Slide 11. Let me take a few minutes to provide an update on some of our operations and capital investments. As we grow our sales and global capabilities, we regularly review our network to make sure it matches our needs. We discussed at Investor Day, the strategic rationale for the Augusta sale. So I'll not repeat that here. We have always run our bleach paperboard manufacturing facilities as a system. So during the quarter, we made the necessary preparations to separate Augusta and to align the Texarkana…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Mark Weintraub from Seaport Research Partners.

Mark Weintraub

Analyst

First, a real quick simple math question. So it seems that Augusta balance for the year, $65 million to $70 million -- I'm sorry, a $65 million to $70 million impact on EBITDA since you highlighted $40 million in the second quarter, does that mean the second half is only $25 million to $30 million?

Stephen Scherger

Analyst

Mark, it's Steve. I think your math is directionally right. Most of the earnings profile last year with our bleached paperboard facilities incurred in the first half of the year. We took very meaningful market-related downtime in the second half of the year. We had almost $100 million of market-related downtime in the second half of the year. So yes, second half EBITDA is much more modest. Most of the comparisons relative to the earnings decline here in Q1 as well as in Q2 where we also began to not own the facility is where you see most of the reduction.

Mark Weintraub

Analyst

Okay. And then second, at the start of the year, you guys announced February price hikes on CUK and CRB. To date, these increases have not been reflected in Pulp and Paper Week. So kind of 2 related questions on that. One, how do business dynamics look to you now versus how they did when you made those announcements? And then second, I'm practically speaking, if they still look as good or better than they did then, would you need to be announcing again? Or do you consider the February increases to still be live?

Michael Doss

Analyst

Yes. Thanks, it's Mark. So from a business standpoint, we -- as you've seen in the guide that we just kind of laid out today, we expect continuing strengthening in the second quarter and then in the second half of the year. So at a high level, that's how we're viewing the markets that we sell in. And again, by way of reminder, when we talk about markets, we're talking about the 95% of the everything we sell that might have been a package. And we're not specifically speaking about paperboard. I think that's an important distinction to make, particularly now given, as we talked about today that come tomorrow, the Augusta mill no longer be something that we own. We choose to make paperboard where we have higher ROIC and competitive advantage. But we also buy a lot of paperboard on the open market, both here and in Europe. And so as you kind of think about what that looks like, that's how I think you really got to model it going forward or how I'd ask a modeling going forward in regards to the announcements that we made earlier this year, we're still actively implementing those and the agreements that we have, and we have had success. So I'm going to leave it at that. I don't -- we don't talk about future pricing actions that we would take. So I'm not going to do that here. But in general, you see it. And I think I'd also point back to the fact that with that strategy and that execution, we generated a 19.6% EBITDA margin in the first quarter. So it's working. We really are moving with the end-use consumer and we are finding ways to pass along our input cost inflation to customers over time, which is what you'd expect us to do.

Mark Weintraub

Analyst

Okay. I appreciate this. Just to clarify, if I just could, because I know you talked about, you're moving towards eliminating third-party indexes as well. Not clear necessarily from the outside, how much of that's been accomplished and what replaces it. But am I right to understand that with the price increases that you've announced that perhaps some of them you might be getting from your customers, whether or not it's reflected by Pulp and Paper Week and that being distinct from cost inflators and things like that, but from price increase announcements that you come to them with?

Stephen Scherger

Analyst

That would be a safe assumption for you to make. And again, all those relationships are proprietary. So we're not for breakout percentages, but we are actively implementing those increases where we have the opportunity to do so.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from Lewis Merrick from BNP Paribas.

Lewis Merrick

Analyst

Two, if I may. Focusing on the foodservice end market. We've heard from some of the major foodservice players talk about this slowdown in customer traffic growth and a shift to cheaper menu items. How does the shift from the premium end of foodservice to the more value and foodservice impact you? And I'll be my follow-up to ask this question.

Michael Doss

Analyst

Okay. So from our standpoint, Lewis, as you saw in Q1, we still are seeing an acceleration, our ninth quarter in a row of quarter-on-quarter gains in sales in that category. So we have not seen a trade down there per se, at least in the products that we're selling to our customers.

Lewis Merrick

Analyst

Okay. Clear. And also you find that Waco will be $160 million EBITDA run rate after 2 years of operations. Is that the fully ramped contribution? Or can we expect a bit more trailing into the third year for that project?

Stephen Scherger

Analyst

Lewis, it's Steve. The $160 million is what we have direct line of sight to in the first 2 years of the ramp up similar to what we saw with Kalamazoo is given that will be utilizing a lot of the same capabilities. We see the kind of vertical ramp that we saw with Kalamazoo occurring in Waco. It will be a combination of cost to take out, overall lower cost to produce and to support some of our growth. Beyond that, as you would expect to continue to see us to improve upon the business year-over-year through our own productivity initiatives and more efficiencies. But the line of sight to that first $160 million over the first 2 years is what we can see through cost and supportive of our growth.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from Ghansham Panjabi from Baird.

Ghansham Panjabi

Analyst

So I guess if we go back to Slide 5, we have all the breakdown across the end markets and so on. Beverage and foodservice, clearly, were improving in the first quarter at least year-over-year. But are you surprised given the level of destocking that was in food and some of the other categories like household, et cetera, that Q1 did not track a little bit better?

Michael Doss

Analyst

Well, certainly, from the standpoint, we're 1% off of where we kind of indicated would be, yes. I mean, there was a little bit there that was specifically on the food side of the business, we saw a little weaker cereal and frozen pizza market, both in the Americas and international. We did see some improvement, though, in dry foods and bakery items. So it was kind of a little bit of a mixed bag there. for sure. But yes, I think as we look at it, Easter was really just the way it played out this year or some years, Easter is really busy. Good Friday, where shipping strong and hard. Our customers are running. This year they did not. And so it impacted us in the quarter, but we've seen a good correction on that here in April and our confidence side will inflect growth in the second quarter and the second half of this year Ghansham.

Ghansham Panjabi

Analyst

Okay. And then in terms of inflation, so clearly, we're seeing a sort of a sequential pulse inflation across many different upstream inputs, OCC, energy and so on and so forth. What are the offsets? I mean, I know you're sort of reiterating guidance on an EBITDA basis for the rest of the year, if you just have for Augusta, et cetera. But if inflation is a little bit higher, maybe volumes are tracking a little bit lower. What are the positive offsets that give you comfort on the EBITDA?

Stephen Scherger

Analyst

Yes, Ghansham, it's Steve. I think you touched on it. In the first quarter, as an example, we had inflation, as you noted. OCC, obviously, of some logistics costs were up. For us, those were more than offset by deflation that we saw in wood, energy, primarily net gas and overall in our chemicals and resin. So those were playing relatively modest. The mark-to-market today remains relatively modest. That being said, you're correct, there is some inflation out there that we're actively looking into and will continue to manage as Mike said, volumes were about 1% shy of our expectations. Overall, everything else on the top line played out as we expected, and we were very pleased with the nearly 20% EBITDA margins. Inside of the business, overall productivity was very good. Obviously, we were matching demand with supply on the open market paperboard side, which was well chronicled but the core packaging business performed very well in terms of across our packaging platforms. Productivity was strong and it successfully offset other inflationary items.

Michael Doss

Analyst

And I think maybe just a little bit to add on to that. We try to give you a little insight Ghansham, into the seasonality of our business, which is kind of distinct. It's not major in a normal year, but the '23-'24 setup really, because of the destocking that occurred in '23, really kind of sets us up a little bit more than we usually for first half, second half for our business. And that's one of the things that gives us a fair amount of confidence too because as you heard Steve say, we took a fair amount of market-related downtime, economic downtime in the second half of last year. And based on what we see now and on the back orders that we have and how we're running, we don't see that. And again, again, an exposure to bleached paperboard on the open market side is not going to be something that we manage going forward with. So you put all those things together, and we see a nice setup for the balance of the year.

Operator

Operator

The next question is from Phil Ng from Jefferies.

John Dunigan

Analyst

This is actually John Dunigan on for Phil. I wanted to first ask about how much visibility you have into those innovation sales. I mean, would -- it's a little bit lighter than I would have thought to just start off the year, but obviously, it's got to be ramping up and you talked about some of the wins that you already have. Are those already locked in? Or is there just conversations that are ongoing at this point that gives you some assurance in the pipeline for the back half of the year?

Michael Doss

Analyst

I appreciate the question, John. I mean in terms of those kind of sales and innovation sales and you mentioned $37 million we achieved in Q1. The selling cycle on that is out 6 to 9 months. So we've got really good visibility into kind of the flow-through of what that looks like. And our confidence level is high, we'll meet our $200 million number that we put out there for 2024.

John Dunigan

Analyst

Okay. Great. And then on the Augusta sales, if I remember correctly, the transaction value was at $700 million, and I think you were expecting a little bit over $100 million in tax the net proceeds you're calling out now of $550, a little bit lower than I had been expecting, although I know the number was supposed to be somewhere in the $500 range, I was thinking more high 5. Is there something that changed there? Anything to note or call out? Or that was kind of in line with your expectations originally?

Stephen Scherger

Analyst

Yes, John, it's Steve. I think at our Investor Day, we were at $550 million in net proceeds and no change to that. So $700 million transaction, $550 million after the taxes associated with the tax gain on the business. So no change relative to the $550 million that we'll have available to us tomorrow.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from George Staphos from Bank of America.

George Staphos

Analyst

Thanks. I guess maybe a different take on a similar question you've had earlier today. As you look at the first quarter and the volume that you ultimately had across the end markets, where was the biggest surprise? And what do you attribute it to? And you said you've had a nice rebound into April and the second quarter. Can you tell us what types of volumes you're seeing early in the quarter across your big end markets?

Michael Doss

Analyst

Yes, I can give you a little insight into that, George. So again, at a high level, we talked about in our prepared comments and with Ghansham, we saw stronger foodservice and beverage. Beverage was a strong quarter for us. And we've got a couple of things e-mailed into us around was that some pull forward. The reality today is of for us, it was pretty de minimis. So our beverage is off to a very solid start into the second quarter. So we expect that to be good. Foodservice continues to ramp up. I mean, it's really above food in many ways. And Ghansham said with the destocking, being largely behind us why didn't you see more. And all I can tell you is that the categories, as I mentioned, cereal and frozen pizza, usually, those are big categories for us. They were a little slower in Q1. We expect them to bounce back during the course of the year consumption doesn't change that much. Sometimes it can be how our customers choose to run their production schedules and those types of things. So that can have an impact on it. In terms of household, we saw some declines in tissue, soaps and cleansers, a little more detail than we usually give you there. But on the other side of that, we saw a strong market for air filter frames. So there tends to be a bit of a mixed bag. And I think it's important to remember relative to where we were in the middle of February, we're off about 1% from what we thought we'd be, which is pretty darn close at the end of the day. And...

George Staphos

Analyst

I'm not picking, Mike, if I may, I'm not trying to pick at you guys were on or off from the forecast. I'm trying to figure out from what you reported what may be going on underneath the hood from your customers' perspective so that we model on a going-forward basis. So it sounds like cereal and frozen were weak, but your customers don't see and this is really what I'm getting at. Don't see a change in underlying consumption from what they're seeing, i.e., versus relative inflation or anything like that? I'm sorry, go ahead.

Michael Doss

Analyst

No, that's a fair statement. That's what we've heard. And of course, we, like you read many of their leases and their prints that have been coming out here over the last week or so, and we'll see some more over the next week. And we've not seen anything to suggest a difference from kind of the recovery from the destocking that occurred in 2023, largely for many of those customers. I think the question becomes how fast does it bounce back? I know everybody wants it bounce back really quickly. From our standpoint right now, we've kind of modeled in kind of a steady state. In the second quarter, we'll see some improvement. And then we do expect that to accelerate quite a little bit in the second half of the year. And again, that's off of a lot easier comps. I mean, if you remember, last year, our comps were 5%, I think, 6%, respectively, in Q3 and Q4 year-on-year. So when you model that in, put 3% to 4% bounce back for 2024, which is kind of how we're thinking about it. Yes, it's a pretty conservative view.

George Staphos

Analyst

Okay. Mike, just to that point, and then I had my second follow-up. You said steady state, so we should assume that so far in April, you're running relatively flat or you're actually up a little bit? And then my second question understandably because of Augusta, you're going to have -- largely because of Augusta, you're going to have a $50 million impact on EBITDA. So when we look either year-on-year or versus the first quarter sequentially are we somewhere in the low $400 millions in EBITDA in terms of what you're sort of expecting for the quarter?

Michael Doss

Analyst

Yes. Thanks, George. I'll take the first part of it. And the answer is yes, we're up a little bit here in April as we expect it to be kind of coming on the Easter holiday weekend, and I'll let Steve for a little finer point on Q2.

Stephen Scherger

Analyst

Yes. No, George, you summarized it, low 4s in Q2 by reminder. It's a pretty intensive plant maintenance downtime quarter for us. We have two of our wood fiber facilities at Texarkana being one of them down for normal planned maintenance. So that's a normal activity in the quarter. And then we have very limited plant maintenance downtime in the second half of the year. And what we expect is the elimination of other supply/demand market related downtime in the second half of the year, of which we had a significant amount in the second half of last year. So yes, there's a -- you can do the midpoint on the EBITDA, as you can kind of see it [ $840 million, $940 million ] kind of midpoint and that holds up very well from what Mike just indicated, 3%, 4% volumetric growth, good, strong productivity and ability to run our overall manufacturing facilities to demand. And that gives us confidence in the retention of the midpoint of the guide and the expectations we have for margin is continuing to be in the 20% range on EBITDA.

Operator

Operator

Next question comes from Matt Roberts from Raymond James.

Matthew Roberts

Analyst

Thanks for the question. If I could touch a little bit on the pricing strategy, have you seen any near-term impact on your market share? Or has there been any near-term trade-off in volumes for price. And when you do present new initiatives to customers, are there any certain metrics or cost inputs that you're able to demonstrate to warrant those price changes?

Michael Doss

Analyst

Yes. So the way I'd answer that question, Matt, is, look, it's a competitive marketplace. We compete with a variety of different substrates and with different competitors that make the same things that we do. But that's not new. That's really been the backdrop that we've faced ever since I started in this industry, almost 35 years ago now. So what we have is, we've got a very broad-based converting network that tends to be able to take care of what our customers need, have the capabilities in those package manufacturing facilities to be able to sell them the wraps, the trays, the cartons, different things that they need and really provide them exceptional service and quality. Beyond that, as we talked about, where it makes sense, we're can drive higher ROICs and create competitive advantage. We've invested in paperboard manufacturing. And then the grades that we manufacture post Augusta, we are clearly the low-cost producer of those grades, and that allows us to be able to get acceptable cost of capital return, the types of margins that Steve talked about and be able to deal with competitive situation that we do each and every day. And so in terms of share loss, it's pretty de minimis. There are some of those things that you take a few mix here or there. You also get some wins. And so really, from that standpoint, I won't spend a lot of time thinking about that dynamic. It's really our future and our success will be driven by our innovation and our ability to drive new product sales. And as you know, our target this year is $200 million that we've got going there. And then the balance of that is something that we just kind of do day in and day out.

Matthew Roberts

Analyst

That's helpful, Mike. I appreciate that. Maybe I think a little longer term about Waco. You talked about the $50 million cut per day recycling capabilities. What percent of your output does that represent? And what's the cost trade-off like versus existing procurement methods? Are there any incremental costs with procuring those cuts that we should consider? I'm trying to think about the potential margin trade-offs there.

Michael Doss

Analyst

Take a step back and really think about how we price for value with our customers. And ultimately, the end-use consumer and our customers are driving for more circularity, more sustainability and more convenience. Our ability to work with our customers. And in the case of Waco, think about that Texas triangle, we've talked about collect the cups that are within that region. Our customers will get some revenue, just like the retailers get some revenue for OCC. So that's a positive for them. And they like that because it's also an answer for an ability to show their consumers. They've got a license to use that cup without feeling guilty about it not being recycled it's going to go back to us and Waco. And I think the part of it that's really not completely understood at a high level is that's going to be the first fiber source that we put down. When we cleaned that paper cup of it's incredibly high value bleached fiber. And we'll lay that fiber down on the very top of the paperboard that we're manufacturing in Waco. And historically, producers that make coated recycled paper would have had to buy sort of office paper and sort of office paper is increasingly become difficult to get and when things get difficult to get, it gets more expensive, which is exactly what has been happening. So from our standpoint, over a multi-decade period of time, our ability to control our own destiny with stable pricing, helping our customers with their circularity and their sustainability goal really helps us create competitive advantage there. And it's a very differentiated model than really any of our competitors are doing. And that's really what gets us so excited. So we'll see some cost stability there. We work with our customers and ultimately, will create a more sustainable package, and it's really exciting.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from Arun Viswanathan from RBC Capital Markets.

Arun Viswanathan

Analyst

I just wanted to get your thoughts on, again, going back to some of the volume developments that we've observed and how you think about the rest of the year. So it seems like there was a little bit of a slowdown versus your commentary in February at the Investor Day in certain of these categories, maybe including, as you noted, frozen and food and so on. As you look out into the rest of the year, are you hearing from your customers that potentially that was transitory and maybe that there will be some increased promotional activity? And related to that point, when you think about the rest of the year, do you think that Q2 is going to look a lot like Q1 and maybe the second half is going to be higher as you get some of those gains back on the volume side? Or will it be different just given the sale of Augusta.

Michael Doss

Analyst

So from our standpoint, really, our miss to our expectation that we talked about at the Investor Day, the 1% was really all about Easter. I mean at the end of the day, it was around customers seeing a little bit more production downtime around the Easter holiday than we had anticipated they would has bounced back here in April, as we talked about. We expect the second quarter to be sequentially stronger than Q1 but our strongest quarters will be in Q3 and Q4. And you'd expect that to be the case given the comps that I kind of ran through for George a few minutes ago. So second half will definitely be biometrically our strongest year and that's a little unusual. As I mentioned to Ghansham, but it's really a function of '23, '24 destocking phenomenon that occurs. And based on everything that we've heard from our customers, and we're pretty close with them, as you know, in terms of managing their supply chains, making sure they have what they need, driving innovation, and new products that we're selling to them, that all seems to square pretty well.

Arun Viswanathan

Analyst

Great. And then if I could just have one follow-up. So you will be getting the cash from Augusta. I guess you're going to be winding down the Waco investment over the next year or 2. So as you look out in the future, I guess, you've laid out a nice Vision 2030 plan, it's potentially more aggressive. How does that relate to maybe how you're thinking about leverage and capital return? So you think next year, you could pivot to maybe a stronger capital return profile? Or what are your thoughts there?

Stephen Scherger

Analyst

Yes. Arun, it's Steve. I think as we discussed in the prepared remarks, obviously, we measure our capital allocation decisions against share repurchase, as we always have. And in the context of the funds from Augusta as an example, sitting here today with the confidence that we have in the business and the forwards that we're conveying you today, we're comfortable with our debt levels. And so we'll, of course, make decisions around debt for repurchase as we always do, whether it's from funds that come in tomorrow or on a go-forward basis, primarily supported by the very significant cash flow generation that we are on the way to generate more in 2025 and then significantly more in '26 and beyond. But overall, we are comfortable with the debt level that we have today. That's a good thing because it gives us the optionality that we've shared with you around capital allocation trade-offs.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from Anthony Pettinari from Citi.

Anthony Pettinari

Analyst

We've heard a lot about imports impacting SBS. And I'm just wondering if you've seen any meaningful impact on CRB or CUK from imports of those or other grades and with the boxboard hikes not being reflected in Pulp and Paper Week, I mean the CRB, CUK, I mean this really relatively small number of domestic producers. So I'm just wondering if there's anything about the competitive environment that's different and if the import dynamic is meaningful or different than in previous years?

Michael Doss

Analyst

Thanks for that, Anthony. I'll take that. I think, look, if you take a step back since you asked the question, I'll give you a complete answer. I mean if you really look at the imports, which is primarily from the Nordic countries, wood, energy, transportation are all up, right? I mean, the producers we're talking about in our Q1 call and all through last year, the structural reset of wood costs that they're dealing with in those markets. And ultimately, as you know, there were some port issues here this year. And so imports as a category actually tracked down year-on-year in Q1. And the other thing to remember about that is that many of those grades don't even compete in the marketplace where we're competing. So it's different things. And I'll give you an example, like a [indiscernible] is a big item that comes in there. And I know you understand what that category is. So I'll give you a little color on that. But from our standpoint, you guys and RISI spent a lot more time thinking about it than we do. We buy FBB in Europe, and we have normal pass-throughs that pass through into our contracts. This quarter, they were down a little bit because prices had gone down. They're starting to announce increases in our normal pass-throughs in Europe will allow us to pass those through, like we always do. And in North America, we hardly ever run into anybody competing with that to be fair. If it is, it's some really small packaging converter that there are the reasons for using that. But it's a pretty small part of what we see. And so from that standpoint, I don't see it impacting CRB or excuse me, our coated recycled paperboard or our unbleached…

Anthony Pettinari

Analyst

Got it. Got it. That's very helpful. And then just quickly on your European business in the quarter. I mean, you talked a little bit about, I think, a health care pullback in EU, generically, like how has that business performed in terms of sort of end market demand year-to-date, Europe specifically?

Michael Doss

Analyst

You can appreciate that health care, in general, tends to be pretty stable. I asked our European President, Joe Yost, a little bit about that. His view is this was just largely timing how they chose to produce. We don't expect it to materially change with the demographics of people continuing to age in both North America and Europe, those are going to be good markets going forward.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from Gabe Hajde from Wells Fargo.

Gabe Hajde

Analyst

Steve, I wonder if this is a price concept. And I appreciate that they're proprietary and on an individual basis. But just for the benefit of all of us on the outside world, can you describe for us how much of your domestic converting business is today conducted on an indexes versus non-index based and then as you do find success with your strategy to migrate away from these, when do you envision maybe not having to announce public price increases for third-party recognition. And then the last one is, it sounds like, Mike, from your commentary that the sales ramp in the second half will be kind of a combination of all three. So in other words, additional innovation sales that you guys are able to monetize price being positive as well as volumes being positive on a year-over-year basis. And I'm talking about sales volume versus I appreciate production volume will likely be up given the downtime that you took.

Michael Doss

Analyst

Yes. Look, I think you answered the second part of the question accurately. That's exactly how we expect it to play out. In regards to kind of pricing game, as we talked about at our Investor Day, we're just not planning to disclose percentages anymore relative to how it all works, whether it's a cost index model that we've got with our customers or some other form of index model that we work with them because we do view them as proprietary. And I think it's demonstrated by the fact it's working. Take a look at our EBITDA margin, how we've been able to have consistency there and continue to perform at type of targets that we put out there, the 20% target that we've got as part of our Vision 2030. It's going to be a variety of things. And maybe the best way that I can do to kind of give you a little bit more color on just talk about how it actually works. So if the mechanism itself isn't something, that is the first thing we talk about with customers. We contract with customers on a renewal or in a new situation with pricing that we establish, both with them and with us. What we're really talking about is how input cost inflation moves over time, up or down, and there's a variety of different methodologies to do it. We've been moving away from third-party indexes for years. As you know, we've been very public about that. And now we're just going to accelerate that process going forward. And so we're working with a number of customers and different ideas that we have and they have for how to provide better transparency between the two parties. More accuracy between the two parties and an agreement that shares the value that we bring and that they ultimately want from us. And so that's really how we're approaching it. It's a multifaceted commercial process that we've got. And beyond that, we're just not going to get into kind of necking it down to finance percentages because that's really not -- that doesn't help you understand the business better in our opinion. And just repeating a key point that Mike is making. The vast majority of the pricing-related discussions we have with our customers, are focused on the value of the package of the vast majority of them. We're constantly renegotiating with customers, whether you're on a 1-year contract, 2-year contract, a 3-year contract, and the minority of the discussions are about the price change mechanism, which is what you're asking about. And so we'll just continue to talk about how we're operating and running the business holistically as a consumer packaging business. Obviously with the margin profile that we're committed to continuing to maintain and grow.

Gabe Hajde

Analyst

Okay. I appreciate the margin comments. Real quick point of clarification, Steve. I think you responded to an answer or to a question about the Augusta mill, $100 million of EBITDA. Did you mean 100,000 tons of downtime. And I apologize, I just -- I missed it. 100,000 tons of down timing in the second half?

Stephen Scherger

Analyst

Last year, we had about $100 million of market-related downtime in the second half of the year that we do not expect to repeat this year. I think to Mark Weintraub's question, Mark was just providing some context around kind of the earnings profile first half, second half last year, the bleached paperboard business as we ran as a system generated significantly more profitability in the first half of the year than the second half of the year. Hence, the negative comp here that we're managing through in the first half which becomes much more de minimis in the second half of the year as we operate what will be the Texarkana facility with our own internal needs being run quite full to support our own packaging needs from that facility effective literally tomorrow.

Operator

Operator

Our final question today comes from Adam Samuelson from Goldman Sachs.

Adam Samuelson

Analyst

There's been a lot of ground covered today. So I'll try to be brief. As we think about the innovation sales growth for the year, $200 million, of which realized $37 million in the first quarter, it kind of implies a ramp to the back half of the year. Can you just share with us how much of that is PaceSetter Rainier at this juncture versus just -- doesn't seem like some of the big items whether it's the Chick-fil-A or Nissin or Boardio would be applicable on that? And are you actually seeing incremental value uplift from PaceSetter Rainier at this juncture? Or is that still incremental into the future and may be dependent on a second source of supply in Waco?

Michael Doss

Analyst

Yes. Thanks for the question, Adam. We are and continue to see traction with Pacesetter Rainier. We actually have 3 commercial applications. We got to [indiscernible] that $200 million total because it already is. Admittedly, it won't be a huge chunk of it in 2024, but momentum building into '25 and '26, absolutely, yes. The balance of the $200 million is the types of things you just described. It's foam to paper conversions for cups, it's trays and bowls, it's Boardio, we're really excited about Boardio. If you look at Boardio and it started as a French formula anything that's kind of that granular like coffee we've got or rigid like gum or confectionery items, I mean it really fits it well. It's $2.5 billion opportunity for us. And we're quite confident we'll wind up with over $200 million worth of sales in the next couple of years for that category alone. And it's a sticky sale. There's a machine that goes in with our customers and really helps them with merchandising and brand need. So that's really where our focus is. You wan to drive that up yes, very excited about Pacesetter Rainier and ultimately, as you correctly pointed out, in '26 we'll have another paperboard machine capable of making that greater paperboard, which is very exciting.

Operator

Operator

This concludes today's Q&A session. And I would now like to hand the call back to Mike Doss for closing remarks.

Michael Doss

Analyst

Thank you all for joining us on the call today. I'm optimistic about our growth outlook and pleased with the progress we are making with innovation sales. Vision 2030 is about execution, and we are off to a good start. As I mentioned earlier, if you missed our Investor Day, I hope you'll take the time to listen to the replay, which you can find on our Investor Relations website. Graphic Packaging is a much different company today than it was just a few years ago, and I truly believe in our value creation story is just getting started. Thank you. Have a safe and a very good day.

Operator

Operator

This concludes today's call. Thank you very much for your attendance. You may now disconnect your lines.