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Group 1 Automotive, Inc. (GPI)

Q4 2024 Earnings Call· Wed, Jan 29, 2025

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Operator

Operator

Good morning ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to Group 1 Automotive's Fourth Quarter and Full Year 2024 Financial Results Conference Call. Please be advised that this call is being recorded. I would now like to turn the call over to Mr. Pete DeLongchamps, Group 1's Senior Vice President, Manufacturer Relations and Financial Services. Please go ahead, Mr. DeLongchamps.

Pete DeLongchamps

Management

Thank you, Betsy [ph]. Good morning everyone and welcome to today's call. The earnings release we issued this morning and a related slide presentation that include reconciliations related to the adjusted results that we will refer to on the call this morning for comparison purposes have been posted to the Group 1's website. Before we begin, I'd like to make some brief remarks about forward-looking statements and the use of non-GAAP financial measures. Except for historical information mentioned during the conference call, statements made by management of Group 1 Automotive are forward-looking statements that are made pursuant to the Safe Harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Forward-looking statements involve both known and unknown risks and uncertainties which may cause the company's actual results in future periods to differ materially from forecasted results. Those risks include but are not limited to, risks associated with pricing, volume, inventory supply, conditions of markets, successful integration of acquisitions and adverse developments in the global economy and resulting impacts on demand for new and used vehicles and related services. Those and other risks are described in the company's filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. In addition, certain non-GAAP financial measures as defined under SEC rules may be discussed on this call. As required by applicable SEC rules, the company provides reconciliations of any such non-GAAP financial measures to the most directly comparable GAAP measures on its website. Participating with me on today's call, Daryl Kenningham, our President and Chief Executive Officer; and Daniel McHenry, Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. I'd now like to hand the call over to Daryl.

Daryl Kenningham

Management

Thank you, Pete. Good morning, everyone. Our U.S. team delivered outstanding results in the fourth quarter and our U.K. team has been hard at work integrating the operations of our growing U.K. footprint. I'll start with an update on the integration of our U.K. business and the broader U.K. market dynamics. We continue to be pleased with the acquisition of Inchcape's retail dealerships. I believe we're better positioned in the U.K. market than we've been at any point in our history. We're poised to capitalize on the additional scale, geographic diversification and an outstanding brand portfolio. Integrating 54 stores and 2 corporate organizations has been a huge effort. We carried some incremental SG&A through the fourth quarter in the U.K. and we've completed many of the difficult tasks and expect others will finalize in the first quarter and throughout 2025. And as always, based on business conditions, we will continue to refine and adjust as needed on a real-time basis. Our integration work included the initiation of the U.K. wide restructuring plan. This plan consists of workforce realignment, strategic closing of certain facilities, systems integrations and other efforts. Our systems integration included a conversion of the legacy Inchcape dealer management system to our existing U.K. DMS. The in-store portion of the conversion did disrupt our operations for a period of time while being completed. It impacted results for those acquired stores. We've installed a leadership team steeped in the U.K. motor trade and are extremely focused on performance. We've made a number of process changes to focus on just that. A couple of examples. In the Inchcape retail stores, technician productivity was significantly behind our legacy Group 1 stores. So we modified compensation plans to focus and reward throughput. We move decision-making on many day-to-day activities from the corporate office…

Daniel McHenry

Management

Thank you, Daryl and good morning, everyone. In the fourth quarter of 2024, Group 1 Automotive reported adjusted net income of $133.9 million, quarterly adjusted diluted earnings per share from continuing operations of $10.02. Current quarter total revenues of $5.5 billion, an all-time quarterly record and all-time quarterly records across multiple business lines, including new vehicle sales of $2.9 billion, parts and service revenues of $680 million and F&I of $226 million. Fourth quarter adjusted net income and adjusted diluted earnings per share from continuing operations excluded $33 million of impairment charges, primarily attributable to franchise rights intangible assets for 4 of our dealerships in the U.S. In the full quarter of 2024, we reported adjusted net income of $530.6 million. Full year adjusted diluted earnings per share from continuing operations of $39.21 and full year total revenues of $19.9 billion, an all-time annual record. An all-time annual records across all of our business lines, including new vehicle sales of $10 billion, used vehicle retail sales of $6.2 billion, parts and service of $2.5 billion and F&I of $829 million. Starting with our U.S. operations. We achieved all-time quarterly record on new vehicle revenues of $2.3 billion, with new vehicle units sold up 14% on a reported basis and over 8% from same-store. This reflects the resiliency of demand and our operational effectiveness as well as the value received from driving volume from our new dealership acquisitions. While new vehicle GPUs monitored from the prior year, we are pleased with the sequential quarter performance, increasing $55 on a reported basis. Used car volume in the fourth quarter grew by 7% and 5% year-over-year on an as-reported basis, respectively. GPU held fairly consistent, down only $40 and $39 on a reported and a same-store basis, respectively. Pricing increased in the fourth…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] The first question today comes from David Whiston with Morningstar.

David Whiston

Analyst

I know there's a ton of uncertainty with what's going on with the Trump administration on tariffs right now. But can you -- given what happened to GM stock yesterday, I think a lot of us watching you guys would appreciate if there's any kind of indication you can give on if such and such happens on tariffs, is there any kind of cooperation with the OEM? Or as you as the dealer, you're the importer, so you're going to bear the full cost of this normally. Is there any kind of arrangement being discussed even in terms of splitting the cost of any of these tariffs?

Daryl Kenningham

Management

David, this is Daryl. All the OEMs are talking about the impact and they're all, I guess, for lack of a better word, war gaming, potential outcomes and what that means to their own sourcing and production plans. At this point, we haven't had any discussions with the OEMs around what kind of an impact that might look like on pricing or our costs as retailers. They are communicating regularly that they're looking at it and making adjustments but nothing specific yet.

David Whiston

Analyst

Okay. On new vehicle affordability, I'm just curious, as you know that was a big concern last year. We had a big surge in December. I think a lot of people were probably relieved with the election over. But I'm just curious going forward in '25, do you think the affordability problem is lessened because the election is over? Or is it still a really key concern for customers, especially in the U.S.

Daryl Kenningham

Management

Well, I don't know if it's because of the election or not. I do know that our transaction prices held up and our grosses we were pleased with and our same-store sales growth, we were pleased with. So our indication is the consumer is pretty healthy and we were pleased with those. So -- and I don't see anything that would lead me to believe it will get worse. I think, if anything, it could potentially get better if there's some stimulation on tax rates or something like that so or interest rates for that matter.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from Rajat Gupta with JPMorgan.

Rajat Gupta

Analyst · JPMorgan.

Just wanted to follow up on the U.K. comments earlier in the prepared remarks. Just given some of the headwinds with respect to the EV mandates, it looks like it is beginning to worsen more here in the fourth quarter. Just curious what kind of expectation do you have for just new car or used car sales in the U.K. for 2025? And then what implications could this have for GPUs as well? And just relatedly on U.K., I'll just ask my follow-up as well. Given the restructuring actions that you've already executed on, there's more to come here in the first quarter, it seems like you're running at an annualized level of SG&A expenses of roughly $650 million. What would -- what should we expect the new run rate to be once those restructuring actions are completed?

Daryl Kenningham

Management

Rajat, this is Daryl. I'm going to take your question on the new vehicle demand and Daniel will take the SG&A question. On -- most forecasts in the U.K. show growth in 2025. And the underlying core retail business looks pretty good. There's EVs being forced through the fleet channel right now and that's creating margin pressure in total as a result. So that has to get resolved. And I think it will get resolved, really do. And when you just listen to some of the -- at least some of the political rhetoric in the U.K., there's much more visibility around that issue and how they should address it and what that does to their industry. And so we're optimistic that there will be some resolutions brought forward and that should result in a healthier mix of retail and fleet sales and a more natural mix of EVs. I don't know what that looks like yet but we feel like there's enough commitment and discussion around it that something will happen. And I'll turn it over to Daniel for the SG&A discussion.

Daniel McHenry

Management

Rajat, I think as we discussed on our last earnings call, it should have been no shock this quarter. It has seen that our SG&A as a percent of gross was at a higher level. Some of that involved that we carried double cost in the quarter for some activities and some of our headcount as we exited some of the colleagues from the business. Equally so, Inchcape had a large outsourced accounting center that we onshored and we had some costs for the accounting center offshore and trying to employ employees in the U.K. to take those duties up on the 1st of January. In terms of our go forward, this year, SG&A as a percent of gross adjusted was 83%. Our expectation is that we would take at least 300 basis points out of that going into next year. It could get better than that as we continue to execute on our cost reduction plan for 2025. But if you use that for your base model, that would be my expectation.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from Daniela Haigian with Morgan Stanley.

Daniela Haigian

Analyst · Morgan Stanley.

I just want to ask again about the trends in SG&A to gross. I know you discussed already in prepared remarks and just now about U.K. is higher as a result of the Inchcape integration but we also saw a sequential increase and year-over-year increase in the U.S. And so in what areas are you seeing the most cost inflation? And what components do you feel there's opportunity to be more efficient?

Daniel McHenry

Management

Daniela, this is Daniel. There was some increase in headcount SG&A as a percent of growth, small amount. Some of it was due to margin reduction in terms of the margin on new vehicles year-on-year as a percent of growth as opposed to absolute dollar.

Daniela Haigian

Analyst · Morgan Stanley.

Got it. Okay. And then my second question is more so just about January trends thus far. What are you seeing new, used and state of the consumer just to kick off 2025?

Daryl Kenningham

Management

Well, January is not finished yet and we're -- we'll be prepared to talk about that in the -- at the end of the quarter. And you've seen the industry kind of forecast that have come out so.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from John Murphy with Bank of America.

John Murphy

Analyst · Bank of America.

You just had a first question, Daryl, on pricing and GPUs. I mean we saw, for the first time in a while, a sequential improvement in new GPUs. Obviously, fourth quarter has some relatively strong seasonality with Lux being a little bit stronger. But just curious, as you think forward into 2025 and maybe even beyond, obviously, there's a great debate of where these GPUs are going to settle. It seems like we're kind of reaching an asymptotic limit on the downside here. But just curious your thoughts of how much of that benefit was typical seasonality and/or how much do you think we're kind of starting to scramble on the bottom here?

Daryl Kenningham

Management

Well, I think we're -- generally, I'd agree with you, John. I think we're -- if we're not at the bottom, I think we're approaching it. I don't think the fourth quarter naturally buoyed GPUs. I mean I think it was a little bit because of the big year-end push with the luxuries, obviously. But you see day supply numbers going into the fourth quarter kind of all over the map, right? I mean, we have a few brands that were fairly heavy in stock and then we had some that were very tight and we were able to hold TRUs basically flat or up a little on a reported basis. So I think we're probably close to the bottom. I don't know if we're absolutely but I think we're probably close to the bottom. It just feels like it the contenting the vehicle the customers have. The transaction prices are much higher than they were pre-COVID. And a lot of it is due to the equipment on the vehicles. And I think we're seeing more rationalization with some of the brands on their production which obviously helps that, too.

John Murphy

Analyst · Bank of America.

Got it. That's helpful. And then just a second question on parts and service. 7% tech growth, I think, is what you guys said in 2024 which is pretty impressive to get that kind of hiring done. What are you thinking for the pipeline of hires for technicians? Because that seems like that is almost the only gating factor on growth on parts and service.

Daryl Kenningham

Management

We're not lowering our expectations, John. Our targets are the same in '25 as they were in '24 and they're probably more aggressive than the U.K. And we feel like we have an opportunity to do that. We're trying to put some things in place. We're doing things like the air conditioning project which we believe will lead to higher retention in those shops. It does in the rest of our shops. And we've got some other things that we're working on to try to improve retention in our higher defection brands and shops and experimenting with different kind of compensation plans and retention programs and recognition programs and mentoring programs. We don't see us stopping that. And at this point, we know we've got to be creative and continue to evolve in that. We can't just rely on what we did a year or 2 years ago to do that. So that's our focus and that's what we're going to continue to do. And one key to this is keeping your shops full. Techs want to work at places where they can get work. And we keep our shops full because of the way we schedule our customers. So that's a real key as well.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from Jeff Licht with Stephens.

Jeff Licht

Analyst · Stephens.

Congrats on a great quarter. I hate to beat on the U.K. thing, obviously, especially with the U.S. results being as strong as they were. I think some of us were a little surprised at some of the line items in the U.K. You'd highlighted some pretty big things in terms of the DMS changeover, the technician productivity pushing the decision-making process down to the dealerships. I was wondering if you could just elaborate more. I mean, obviously, you've hit the SG&A point, the 300 bps for next year. But just maybe giving a little more color just in terms of magnitude of just how kind of impacted negatively things are right now and how you would see that going the other direction and just how much opportunity is it to go the other direction in 2025.

Daryl Kenningham

Management

Well, I think there's quite a bit of opportunity. The business we bought, the brands are terrific and they're in great geographies. The way they manage their business was different than us. We tend to put more decision-making in the stores because we feel like our general managers have to have flexibility to react to the marketplace and that's a better way to serve customers. The Inchcape was more centralized. They had a lot more of their decisions centralized and even things like just replacing a lift or hiring a technician had to go to the corporate office for approval. If you wanted to reprice a used car, you had to have approval in writing from the corporate office. We don't think that's the proper way to manage a retail business. We think putting guidelines and technology in place to help the operators make those decisions is the best way and then let them make those decisions based on the customer needs at the moment. And so we've moved all of that in the half of our business that's Inchcape out to the stores. And they're not going to wake up day 1 and be great at it. But I can tell you, just throughout the quarter, we saw improvements in those actions that resulted from those actions. And I feel like we're going to continue to see that. So I think there's a significant opportunity there. I'm as convinced today that we've got a great business there that can really develop and produce good returns for our shareholders. I certainly believe that. So it doesn't mean there's not work to do. There certainly is.

Jeff Licht

Analyst · Stephens.

And a quick follow-up for Pete, if I could. Relating to the conversations that are always ongoing with the OEMs, obviously, a lot has been going on in the back half stop sales. Inventory is normalizing as you talked but it's not quite there yet. The EV mandates. Just curious, Pete, how conversations with the OEMs are evolving as we go into 2025? And what are they most focused on and vice versa?

Pete DeLongchamps

Management

So I don't think you can broad brush the OEM focus. But I will tell you that if you take a look at days’ supply, I think that there's been a real balancing, especially with some of the higher days’ supply OEMs. And we're still at low numbers with Toyota and Lexus. But I think going into this year, the OEMs are bullish on this year to Daryl's earlier point, just focusing on the relationships we have with them and the performance so we can continue to grow. But in talking with all the OEMs, it's -- I think their outlook is very positive for this year.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from Bret Jordan with Jefferies.

Bret Jordan

Analyst · Jefferies.

Could you give us a little bit more color on the BEV impact in the U.K., I guess, as you're forcing them through the fleet channel on the unit GPUs and BEV versus ICE over there and maybe where you see that as the mandate is looking for 6 points higher in BEV this year?

Daryl Kenningham

Management

Well, the margin impact is -- and we can give you some detail on it. But the margin impact of sending them through the fleet channel, those go to corporate fleets in the U.K. It's not like rental car fleets. And most companies have corporate fleet programs for their employees. And -- but the -- they tend to be subsidized and they tend to be lower price and lower margin. And so the incentives have been focused more on those fleet buyers because of theirs volume there to be able to do it. So that's the issue.

Daniel McHenry

Management

Bret, it's Daniel here. The additional thing out there on the fleet market is you don't traditionally get any F&I income on that fleet business. In addition, there's not really traditionally a trade that you take with that fleet vehicle. So that just makes it a much more difficult trading environment than what a standard retail deal would make.

Bret Jordan

Analyst · Jefferies.

Okay, great. And then on parts and service and I guess, in the U.S., I mean, how much of that is -- are you seeing benefit from things like the Toyota Tundra engine replacement yet? Or is that still to come in '25? And I guess what's the cadence? It seems like you'd have some seasonal tailwinds here into early '25.

Daryl Kenningham

Management

We'll see some -- yes, we'll definitely see tailwind in '25 on all the warranty that's there. The warranty numbers are pretty high right now. And the good thing is 1/3 of customers who come in on warranty end up with some customer pay on their repair order. So that high warranty trend also helps our CP business. So that's -- and I think that's honestly one of the reasons we were up 8% in the quarter in customer pay. But I expect the warranty to continue through the year.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from Michael Ward with Freedom Capital.

Michael Ward

Analyst · Freedom Capital.

Just one more question on the U.K. there. If you take the Inchcape business and the SG&A, it looks like it was like 96% in 4Q. Is there anything structurally that prevents that business from getting down to the overall corporate average in the U.K.

Daniel McHenry

Management

Mike, it's Daniel. I don't think there's anything structurally that prevents that from happening. If anything, my expectation would be that the Inchcape Group should be slightly better than the legacy Group 1 stores. Now, the simple reason behind that is a big differentiator between the U.S. and the U.K. as the rents are structurally higher in the U.K. than they are in the U.S. The Inchcape business tends to be more in the North of England versus the Group 1 legacy business in the South. And rents in the South of England just are structurally higher than the North. So my expectation would be that it should be as good, if not better, than the legacy Group 1 businesses as well as the brand mixes of the Inchcape stores tend to be slightly higher gauge towards luxury than the legacy. So all in all, I would say, absolutely as good as, if not better, than the legacy U.K. business.

Michael Ward

Analyst · Freedom Capital.

Okay. So therefore, you had about $10 million of redundant SG&A costs then in 4Q with Inchcape and that affected your overall SG&A as well as the U.K. portion.

Daniel McHenry

Management

I think that's fair, Mike.

Daryl Kenningham

Management

Yes. Mike, one of the ways we're thinking about the U.K. business is we feel like in total, Group 1 had a really good fourth quarter, really good. And on almost any broad basis that you look at it on EPS growth and performance versus expectations, we had a really, really good quarter. And that's really without the U.K. contributing very much. And so we feel like as we get a lot of the major integration activities behind us and start to see the benefits of those in 2025. That's only a plus for us relative to where we are today. And some of the integration activities were very disruptive. I mean every single employee in an Inchcape store has new technology today and we replaced all the networks, we replaced the DMS. You basically shut the store down for 5 days to do that when we did every store in late November and December. So, it was a big impact. And -- but we expect that as we get further into '25, we'll see more and more good news out of our business there.

Michael Ward

Analyst · Freedom Capital.

That's what it sounds like. Second question, on Page 13 of your slide deck, Pete, you're not going the woods the F&I side to it. It looks like you've had steady improvements in a lot of the different take rates. If I look at that, it seems to me that back about 6 months ago or so, there were some concerns that maybe F&I was going to normalize a little bit. It seems to me that you are at another high level. And if anything, as some of the captive finance comes back a little bit, we might see that drift a little bit higher in 2025. Is that a fair assumption?

Pete DeLongchamps

Management

I think the real opportunity, Mike, as we get lower rates is to improve the used car penetrations because those have kind of bottomed out at 63% of a traditional number of 68%. We've actually seen captive financing help the new vehicle finance upto 75%, 76%. So we think that there's some opportunity there this coming year. And then the -- we just executed on our product offerings. We've talked about it for years. We've continued to have the same products offered and our team has done a great job of maintaining good product penetrations and increasing in a couple of the products that we have. So, we're pleased with our F&I performance this year.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from Ron Jewsikow with Guggenheim Securities.

Ron Jewsikow

Analyst · Guggenheim Securities.

Maybe just starting off on parts and service because the print was very strong this quarter. Is there anything we should be aware of surrounding kind of the 7% increase in revenue per repair order? I guess does warranty work or does the current scope of warranty work carry a higher revenue per RO? Or is that just a sign of kind of customer willingness to pay and your ability to pass through kind of tech cost and general inflation?

Daryl Kenningham

Management

Well, I think some of it may be the latter. When you combine it, though, about half of our benefit in parts of service this quarter was because of higher customer counts in our stores. So we're pleased to see that. On the specific dollar increases, the average mileage continues to go up across our service drives. And so as that continues, we will see higher dollar ROs just because older vehicles need more repair. And so I believe that's what's driving it. It's not -- we're not taking necessarily any meaningful pricing that's largely behind us. And I don't think it's the environment to do it anyway.

Ron Jewsikow

Analyst · Guggenheim Securities.

Okay. And I know it's very early innings on tariffs and it seems like it's probably a tough situation to comment on. But to the extent we do see Mexican import duties levied, could that actually be supportive for your pricing? Because I think if we just look at some of your tightest supplied OEM brands and your partners, they build a large portion of their vehicles actually in the U.S.

Daryl Kenningham

Management

Yes. No, there's some truth to that. Absolutely, yes.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from Glenn Chin with Seaport Research Partners.

Glenn Chin

Analyst · Seaport Research Partners.

Just a follow-on question related to aftersales. Daryl, you mentioned targets for 2025 are unchanged 2024. Can you just remind us what those targets were for last year?

Daryl Kenningham

Management

Well, I think what I was specifically referring to, Glenn, was that this past year, we grew our tech count by about 300 technicians in the U.S. and we're not lowering our expectations in the future on that. And we don't have any -- we don't feel like physical limitations in terms of our store count will limit us either because 1/3 of our stores in the U.S. have more technicians than they do stalls in the dealership. And so just the physical open number of stalls is not what we look at in terms of what's our run -- future run rate look like on being able to hire technicians. So, we intend to keep hiring at the same rate we have been in the past. And so that's what I was referring to. I don't know if that answers your question or not.

Glenn Chin

Analyst · Seaport Research Partners.

It does. And then just looking at inventory levels, it looks like 67 days of used in the U.K. Does that need to come down?

Daniel McHenry

Management

Glenn, it's Daniel. December is traditionally a fairly weak month, I would say, for used vehicle sales in the U.K. It's -- January, is the opposite to that. January tends to be a very buoyant month for used vehicle sales in the U.K. Effectively, what we've done is we've looked at our inventory levels at the end of December and effectively divided it by the number of vehicles that we sold in December; so that's artificially high for December.

Operator

Operator

Seeing no further questions in the queue. This does conclude our question-and-answer session and concludes our conference call. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.