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Group 1 Automotive, Inc. (GPI)

Q3 2024 Earnings Call· Wed, Oct 30, 2024

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Operator

Operator

Good morning, ladies and gentlemen and welcome to Group 1 Automotive’s Third Quarter 2024 Financial Results Conference Call. Please be advised that this call is being recorded. I would now like to turn the call over to Mr. Pete DeLongchamps, Group 1’s Senior Vice President of Manufacturer Relations and Financial Services. Please go ahead, Mr. DeLongchamps.

Pete DeLongchamps

Management

Thank you, Jamie. Good morning, everyone and welcome to today’s call. The earnings release we issued this morning and a related slide presentation that include reconciliations related to the adjusted results we will refer to on this call for comparison purposes have been posted to the Group 1 website. Before we begin, I’d like to make some brief remarks about forward-looking statements and the use of non-GAAP financial measures. Except for historical information mentioned during the conference call, statements made by management of Group 1 Automotive are forward-looking statements that are made pursuant to the Safe Harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Forward-looking statements involve both known and unknown risks and uncertainties, which may cause the company's actual results in future periods to differ materially from forecasted results. Those risks include, but are not limited to, risks associated with pricing, volume, inventory supply due to increased customer demand and reduced manufactured production levels due to component shortages, conditions of markets, successful integration of acquisitions, and adverse developments in the global economy and resulting impacts on demand for new and used vehicles and related services. Those and other risks are described in the company's filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. In addition, certain non-GAAP financial measures as defined under SEC rules may be discussed on this call. As required by applicable SEC rules, the company provides reconciliations of any such non-GAAP financial measures to the most directly comparable GAAP measures on its website. Participating with me on today's call are Daryl Kenningham, our President and Chief Executive Officer; and Daniel McHenry, Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. I'd now like to hand the call over to Daryl.

Daryl Kenningham

Management

Thank you, Pete. Good morning, everyone. Thanks to our great teams in the US and the UK, we were pleased with our performance in the quarter. I'll start with our UK business. During the quarter, we closed on the previously announced Inchcape retail transaction, adding $2.7 billion in revenue from 54 dealerships in key hubs such as the Midlands, the Northwest of England and Wales. In a separate transaction, we also acquired 4 additional Mercedes-Benz dealerships north of London. Additionally, we recently closed on a large BMW store in Lincoln, England. We are encouraged by the pace of integration of these new dealerships in our portfolio. The brand and geographic mix are outstanding and give us significant scale and reach that will improve our SG&A leverage. Because of our size now in the UK, we've been able to significantly strengthen our relationships with great brands like BMW, Volkswagen, Audi, Porsche, Mercedes-Benz, Toyota, Land Rover and Ford. A close relationship with our OEM partners based on performance and commitment is critical to our growth focus. On October 1, Mark Raban joined us as CEO of Group 1 UK. Mark brings with him deep industry and public company knowledge in the UK market. He is both operationally and financially sound. Mark has already appointed his leadership team comprised of both legacy Group 1 leaders and Inchcape retail leaders. We now have the strongest leadership team we've ever had in our UK business. We are also working on bringing the rest of the organizations together and hope to have that substantially finished by the end of 2024. It's a big task to integrate this many stores and 2 corporate organizations that quickly, but we believe it's important and we believe integration is a strength at Group 1. In his upcoming comments, Daniel McHenry…

Daniel McHenry

Management

Thank you, Daryl, and good morning, everyone. In the third quarter of 2024, Group 1 Automotive reported adjusted net income of $133.5 million quarterly adjusted diluted EPS from continuing operations of $9.90. Current quarter total revenues of $5.2 billion an all-time quarterly record -- and all-time quarterly records across all business lines, including new vehicle sales of $2.6 billion, used vehicle sales of $1.7 billion, parts and service revenues of $660 million, and F&I of $214 million. We had just over 2,000 new and used vehicles in stop sale at the end of the quarter. These stop-sale vehicles were weighted towards higher GPU models, lightly slightly suppressing our third quarter GPU averages. Starting with our US operations, we achieved an all-time quarterly record on new vehicle revenues of $2 billion driven by record new vehicle units sold up 7% on a reported basis. This reflects the resiliency of demand and the continued emphasis on driving volume through new dealership acquisitions. We are pleased with new vehicle GPU performance, moderating only $143 and $129 from the sequential quarter on a reported and same-store basis respectively. This was particularly strong given the global stop sell of certain vehicle models from Lexus, BMW, and other manufacturers, which impacted sales during the current quarter. Used cars experienced a volume increase sequentially with same-store units up 1,076 or 3% sequentially, pricing up 216 unit and GPU down only $109. With our franchise model, the global stop sale did affect certain used vehicle models. We are pleased with our ability to increase volume and whole pricing. We believe this is testament to our process, discipline and use of technology with pricing used vehicles. Our F&I revenues of 185 million were also a quarterly record for the US. RF and IGPU of $2,406 increased on the same-store…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] And our first question today comes from Rajat Gupta from JP Morgan. Please go ahead with your question.

Rajat Gupta

Analyst

Just had the one question on, all the one time impacts and then one on UK. So you mentioned, the hurricane impacts some lingering CDK issues you had some of the stop sale headwind. Curious if you could quantify some of those buckets or in an aggregate fashion. Just trying to get a baseline for third quarter EPS excluding all those headwinds. Anything you want to flag, that might continue in the fourth quarter, especially with respect to the stop sales and any recall work that might offset that. And have a follow up on UK. Thanks.

Daniel McHenry

Management

Rajat, hi, good morning. It's Daniel. A couple of things there. We came out of the CDK shortage at the end of June. And I think that we were fairly well ahead of our peers in terms of coming out of that. Early July hurricane hit and our biggest market, which is our Houston market. July, I would say we performed about 70% of where we would've expected to have performed on a normal basis or a run rate basis. I would've thought that cost us somewhere between $0.20 and $0.30 in terms of EPS and I think that muddled a little of the first week or two in terms of CDK and the CRM outage. In terms of stop sell, as I said, we have about 2000 vehicles on stop sell that on the assumption that we would've sold and delivered at least 50% of those, the expectation would've been that cost us about $3.5 million in terms of profits for those vehicles which is another $0.20 to $0.30 in terms of EPS. In terms of the hurricane at the end of the quarter we had limited exposure to that. But a couple of our stores, one in particular was closed for a number of days with that hurricane.

Rajat Gupta

Analyst

And just to clarify on that, I mean, did you have any recall where that may have offset some of the $3.5 million stop sale impact or is that net of that?

Daniel McHenry

Management

We did have some recall work that would have netted off some of that. The estimate for the recall work, I would have said in terms of growth was something like $1.2 million in terms of gross profit for the BMW stop sell.

Rajat Gupta

Analyst

Got it. That's very clear.

Daryl Kenningham

Management

But of course, Rajat, we probably would have filled out with normal work anyway.

Rajat Gupta

Analyst

Yes, it's a capacity thing. And then on UK, appreciate all the color you gave us in your prepared remarks. You mentioned like 300 basis points reduction in SG&A from all these actions. Is that -- I mean, if you look at your UK SG&A to gross, it's running close to 80% right now, just based on the third quarter results and what you might do for the full year. So is that more like going to 77% next year? I mean, can you help us just size that a little more granularity in terms of how we should think about the SG&A opportunity once all the integration is done?

Daryl Kenningham

Management

Thanks. Good morning, Rajat. This is Daryl. I'm going to answer part of that and then Daniel will come in. We have just some organic opportunity in the UK on performance. And we've seen better performance. You saw it in some of the used car PRUs a matter of fact this quarter. So we're improving there, but we know there's improvement including in SG&A as a percentage of growth. And now Daniel, he spoke to some of the effect that expense savings we should see when we combine the Inchcape and Group 1 organizations together. We get them on 1 DMS and all those things. So there's probably a plus benefit to the 300 basis points based on the organic improvements that we still see. Daniel may want to add some more color to that.

Daniel McHenry

Management

So Rajat, that 300 basis points is based around how we're operating today in terms of growth. So as Daryl says, there is the ability to expand on that should we increase the growth.

Daryl Kenningham

Management

And I think Rajat, just one other at least opinion. We spent a lot of time in the UK in the last 4 months and quite a bit of time with the new stores once we closed on them. We feel better today. We really like this acquisition when we first started the discussions early this year, really liked it a lot. And I can tell you after spending time in all of those stores over the last 80 days, we feel better about that acquisition today than we ever have. And honestly just feel like those are great stores and great markets with great opportunity, and we just feel more optimistic today than we ever have.

Operator

Operator

And our next question comes from John Murphy from Bank of America. Please go ahead with your question.

John Murphy

Analyst · your question.

Good morning, guys. And Daniel, maybe I could follow-up on the UK. As you look at this, you guys have built out a tremendous amount of scale there now with this acquisition. You've added a few more acquisitions post-Inchcape. But have we reached a point where you may be somewhat saturated in the UK market? That might be the pessimist view on it, but the optimistic side might be you actually built this platform and there might be a lot more acquisition opportunity now that you're getting even deeper into the market. I mean, how should we think about the M&A environment or opportunity for you over there now that this is done.

Daniel McHenry

Management

Good. John, it's Daniel here. I think the number of large acquisitions in the UK, are largely over for today. There's been a number transacted. Clearly Lucas has transacted and Pen Dragon and they're the larger deals. It's fair to say that we waited for the Inchcape acquisition. I think the brand portfolio there is just excellent. I think as we continue to grow there, it's more likely we'll add in tuck ins, like we have added with the Mercedes stores that we bought and the BMW stores because I just don't think there's another large luxury group out there, that we would be actively pursuing today.

Daryl Kenningham

Management

Some of the tuck ins are really nice stores, John, but the BMW store we just closed on in the last couple weeks is $125 million, which is a big store in the UK. And the four Mercedes stores are a little less than that for their agency. So you look at $50 million, there's like a hundred million to put on. So there's some decent sized stuff even though it's not a giant group.

John Murphy

Analyst · your question.

So I mean, just if we think about that, the two main platforms being the UK and the US at this point, or the two platforms regionally. Do you think these sort of these large chunky deals are now done in both regions? It's more tuck in or do you think that, but back across the pond to home, your home market? That there could be chunky deals that could occur in the US?

Daryl Kenningham

Management

We think there can be chunky deals in the US still, especially in certain markets that aren't as built out as other markets, including some that we're already in. So yes, we think there can be some chunky deals still out there in the United States. Certainly far fewer in the UK it's much more rolled up in the UK. But we are also really pleased with our scale now in the UK whereas before we were probably vulnerable at our size that we were, now we're a significant presence with great brands and we feel really good about that. So we don't think we have to grow anymore in the UK to be competitive and get scaled. But we think there's plenty of opportunities here in the US for some larger deals. Don't know how soon those will come. There's different valuations today on the, some expectations are very high. You see some deals taking longer to close than they historically have. So I think some of that has to sort its way out, but I still think there's some other stuff to come I don't know if that'll come next week, next month or next year, but at some point we think.

John Murphy

Analyst · your question.

And just one follow up on the GPU side, I mean, you know, it just keeps surprising a bit to the upside. I mean, it's sliding a little bit, but not much at this point. Lots of consternation around rising inventory [indiscernible] and the waves that may cross in the industry in front of pricing and GPUs. But what is your take about where this all ultimately lands, I mean, it's a little bit of guesswork at the moment and maybe also like, what are the consumers saying about pricing, which obviously would've implications for the GPUs?

Daryl Kenningham

Management

Well, I think based on I think we're, you know, the obvious comment is yeah, the glide path is certainly slowing. And even in some brands where the inventory's too high, the glide path is slowing. So and we saw some of that this quarter where we saw better GPUs on certain brands than we probably expected. And then those are the brands with high inventories. So the resistance from customers, it's nothing that you don't already know whether it's interest rate created by interest rates, the cut that the Fed did hasn't fully flowed through yet and hopefully there's more to come there. But we don't sense that there's a great deal of resistance there. But the finance arms have also gotten more aggressive too with interest rates have mentioned and leasing is up 3 points as well. So you're seeing some more ammunition pointed at that affordability issue.

Daniel McHenry

Management

John, there's only one thing that I would add. 11% of our vehicular brand mix is BMW and 6% of our brand mix is Lexus. Clearly, without those stop sells and the stop-sells generally were at higher GPU models. I think that reduction in GPU for the quarter would have been extremely small if we had been able to deliver the vehicles that we had sold.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Jeff Licht from Stephens Inc. Please go ahead with your question.

Jeff Licht

Analyst · your question.

Just digging into the Inchcape position, I'm curious if you take the 54 stores you acquired there, you had 56 or so going in, obviously there's 1 or 2 that move around every quarter. I wonder if you can just give us some perspective by way of magnitude of how much bigger those Inchcape stores are, pick your metric, whether it's units per store, gross per store, new gross, used gross. I'm just curious. They appear to be a little bigger, so they're having a disproportionate impact on your results. Any help there would be great.

Daryl Kenningham

Management

When we look at it in total, let's say, look similar size to what we have. There are so many different places, a little bit different SG&A profile, but we don't see, I guess, a material difference, Jeff between the 2 at least at this point 2 months in. We do believe there's upside in after-sales in across the board in the Inchcape source, the analysis we've done on their after-sales performance relative to our UK after sales performance, we believe there is more upside there. Daniel has something to add.

Daniel McHenry

Management

Jeff the only thing I would add is the storage Inchcape tend to be slightly more luxury based than our stores that we have in the UK. So the revenues could be seen as slightly higher. Unit volumes aren't necessarily as high. They just don't have the Fords, the Kias, et cetera, that we have within our operation. So that's the only difference that I would call out there.

Jeff Licht

Analyst · your question.

And then one more on just shifting gear to the US and the stop sales. I'm curious if you could give any perspective on like right now you have Toyota, Lexus, Honda, Hyundai all have ongoing stop sales. I'm curious when these happen, what's the consumer reaction in terms of how many what percentage kind of wait to get what they want versus go somewhere else. Then I guess a follow-up to that is how do you even begin to think about where GPUs could settle when you have all this noise that just seems to never go away.

Daryl Kenningham

Management

Your last two words were never go away, I think is the key, right. This is Daryl, Jeff. Our experience on stop sales is customers that have an order in or a or new car shoppers, they tend to stick with it until the stop sale comes off. And sometimes they'll switch to a different model. But we retain that customer. Used car customers sometimes, they're not as sticky as the new car customers. It's hard to predict when all the noise goes away because there obviously, there's always noise and what is it? To me it feels like, business is pretty healthy and with the lean cost structure, I think we have, we still have an opportunity and a heavier luxury mix today than we've ever had, which we're really pleased about. And so I don't have a number to give you, but I would just say I'm fairly optimistic, even though there's some macro headwind issues out there, I'm still pretty optimistic about our business and our model and our structure in general.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Michael Ward from Freedom Capital. Please go ahead with your question.

Michael Ward

Analyst · your question.

Daryl, I think you said the integration of Inchcape would be complete by year-end. That seems like a pretty quick integration process. Did you start it earlier or what have been the secrets of that integration?

Daryl Kenningham

Management

Well, it'll be substantially finished by the end of the year, Mike. We have, we expect that most of the organizational integration will be done, there will be some that'll carry into next year, but it's not as core to the business as the parts that will be done. And then there's some IT integration that most of that should happen here by the end of the year. And the DMS integration may spill into next year a little bit, but it's substantially will be this year. Daniel, you may want to add some more color to that.

Daniel McHenry

Management

I hope the DMS integration's completed by the end of the year because that's my -- I think the lion's share of the job's going to be completed, by the end of the year. It could be some operational realignment still required running into early next year, but certainly by the end of quarter one will be done.

Daryl Kenningham

Management

Let me, Mike, let me give you an example of something that that could spill into next year a little bit. Inchcape priced all of their used cars centrally. They had a used car pricing team that they price all their used cars and all their dealerships centrally. Our model is we lack our stores, we want to give them guidelines and technology to be able to understand where to price on the market, but our stores price their used cars. And that's our model at Group 1. And that's what we're transitioning to with the Inchcape stores. Now the thing is, you have to teach the people in the stores, how to price a used car because they've never had to do that before. And you have to teach them the technology to do that. So there's a bit of a ramp on that learning curve. We believe we can get there by the end of the year, but something like that could spill into January, February. We don't expect the impact to be that big. But there's some things that could spill into that. But it is not the majority of the integration efforts. Those should be done by the end of the year.

Michael Ward

Analyst · your question.

Well that's impressive. I wonder if you could talk a little bit about, you touched on it, your strategy as it relates to adjacencies. You stayed away from FinCos, you've stayed away from some of the other areas standalone used. What are your thoughts on some of those strategies and where do you stand?

Daryl Kenningham

Management

We evaluate them all the time, Mike, honestly, we really do. And we do an annual exercise where we look at it and when we develop kind of our capital allocation model for the year. And given the interest rate environment, the risk environment, the growth opportunities that we see, we look at should we allocate some capital to adjacencies. To this point, we haven't done that. Will we never do that? I don't know. I could see us potentially at some point in the future considering something that it would need to be tied closely to our core business, and it would be something that we would never want to compromise an OEM relationship with an adjacency that we're in ever. And so it's too important for us to perform well with the OEMs because you can't grow if you have a bad relationship with the OEMs or your performance is bad in your current stores. So you cannot get their approval to grow. So we are very cautious there, very careful there. Today we still see opportunity in the US for acquisitions, and so I'd never say never. We never close it off. It's an active discussion with our Board on a regular basis. It was part of a review we did just a few months ago as a matter of fact. And we will continue to keep our mind open to those things certainly. Today, we just don't see that it fits for us.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Glenn Chin from Seaport Research Partners. Please go ahead with your question.

Glenn Chin

Analyst · your question.

Congratulations on getting the Inchcape transaction closed. Some more questions around it. So in certain respects like service or after sales revenue as a proportion of total, F&I, same thing and then floor plan expense. They seem a bit different versus the rest of the company. Anything that prevents you guys from bringing each of those areas more in line with the company, I -- after sales, you talked about hiring more technicians. Anything inherent about the business that prevents you from doing so.

Daryl Kenningham

Management

I don't feel there's anything inherent that would prevent us from doing that, Glenn. The stores are in different markets. They're not most of them are not around London. So they're in a little bit lower cost market for us. They are a little heavier luxury mix and they're facilitated generally well. So, and we feel like there's certainly after sales opportunity. Just philosophically, I think we tend to look at after sales differently than Inchcape did. And so we're trying to implement those things. There's nothing structurally that we're concerned about being able to implement anything in Inchcape.

Daniel McHenry

Management

Glenn, I'll just pick up on the floor plan point. I agree with you. Their floor plan is slightly different. We manage our floor plan in a different way than Inchcape has historically managed their floor plan. We clearly acquired their floor plan as part of the acquisition and it's going to take us probably a few months to turn that inventory over. However, we will realign it to similar floor plan as we have for the rest of our group and we are in negotiations with our banking partners at the moment for a new floor plan line that will be at a slightly lower rate than Inchcape currently are operating.

Operator

Operator

And ladies and gentlemen, with that being our final question, we'll wrap up today’s question and answer session as well as today’s conference call. We do thank you for joining today’s presentation. You may now disconnect your lines.