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Gaotu Techedu Inc. (GOTU)

Q4 2020 Earnings Call· Fri, Mar 5, 2021

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Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by, and welcome to the GSX Techedu, Inc. Fourth Quarter and Fiscal Year 2020 Earnings Conference Call. All participants will be in listen-only mode. [Operator Instructions] After today’s presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. [Operator Instructions] Please note this event is being recorded on March 3, 2021. I would now like to turn the conference over to your first speaker today, Ms. Sandy Qin, IR Senior Manager of GSX. Thank you. Please go ahead.

Sandy Qin

Analyst

Thank you, Sarah. Hello, everyone, and thank you for joining us today. GSX earnings release was distributed earlier and is available on the company’s IR website. On the call with me today are Mr. Larry Chen, GSX Founder, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer; and Ms. Shannon Shen, Chief Financial Officer. Larry will give a general overview and then Shannon will discuss the financials. Following the prepared remarks, Larry and Shannon will be available to answer your questions. Before we begin, I would like to remind you that this conference call contains forward-looking statements as defined in the U.S. Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These forward-looking statements are based upon management’s current expectations, and current market and operating conditions and relate to events that involve known or unknown risks, uncertainties and other factors, all of which are difficult to predict and many of which are beyond the company’s control, and may cause the company’s actual results, performance or achievements to differ materially. Further information regarding these and other risks, uncertainties or factors is included in the company’s filings with the SEC. The company does not undertake any obligation to update any forward-looking statements, except as required in the applicable law. As a reminder this conference is being recorded. In addition, a live and archived webcast of this conference call will be available on GSX Investor Relations website at gsx.investorroom.com. You are also welcomed to subscribe to our quarterly investor newsletters through the same website. It is now my pleasure to introduce Larry. Larry, please go ahead.

Larry Xiangdong Chen

Analyst

Thank you, Sandy. Good evening and good morning to you all. Thank you for joining us today on our fourth quarter and full year 2020 earnings call. As you know, net operating cash flow is an essential indicator to measure the operation efficiency of online education company. In the fourth quarter, we achieved net operating cash inflow of RMB636 million. And for the full year 2020, our net operating cash flow remained positive at RMB603 million. In December 2020, we successfully completed a private placement raising US$870 million. As of December 31, our cash and cash equivalents, short-term investments and long-term investments totaled RMB8.22 billion, a significant increase from RMB2.74 billion as of the end of 2019. In the fourth quarter, our selling expenses totaled RMB1,798 million, a 307% year-over-year increase, deducting RMB472 million in employee compensation and miscellaneous expenses and RMB59 million in brand new activities takes us to traffic acquisition expenses of RMB1,267 million. Since our gross billings for the fourth quarter were RMB3.15 billion, the corresponding ROI kept us in a superior position in the industry. Further our selling expenses in the fourth quarter decreased by RMB257 million or 12.5% from the third quarter. We moderately controlled our traffic acquisition expenses, because we firmly believe that good education takes time and it should be full of care and love. Premium, respectable and sustainable education is never about shortsighted race to expand, but should increase great teachers, high-quality courses, caring services, effective learning results, and excellent reputation. I have always been reminding my team that when we saw the gigantic capital injections into our industry, the massive marketing campaigns that followed and the irrational race by some players to scale their businesses at any cost, we should always keep calm and stay true to our original mission, which is to focus on making education better through technology, focus on recruiting and training the best instructors, focus on providing the best and the most caring education, focus on offering the most satisfying services to each student and each parent, and focus on pursuing the right growth regardless of hardship with a long-term and sustainable view. In 2021, we will continue to expand our recruiting and training of star instructors, expand our efforts on content, product and technology development, maintain an effective growth strategy on a lifetime value basis. Optimize our operational efficiency and effectiveness, and to further improve our organizational capabilities and efficiency. We are confident that we will continue to excel in terms of operating efficiency in 2021. Now, I will pass the call over to our CFO, Shannon, to walk you through our financial and operational details.

Shannon Shen

Analyst

Thanks, Larry. And thank you everyone for joining the call. Now, I will walk you through our operating and financial results, and conclude with how we build out the coming quarter. Please note our financial data is in RMB terms. In 2020, we comprehensively upgraded our products in terms of our instructor and tutor teams, content development and technology, as we remained firmly committed to improving the learning experience and effectiveness of our students. Firstly, over the past year, more than 100 top-notch instructors join us many of whom have considerable years of experience. For the junior and senior high school segments, we have established a strong model and decent reputation by building up a team of industry leading instructors. Meanwhile, in 2020, we further invested in cultivating our own instructors, candidates who are young and have high potential. Many of them graduated from renowned universities, including Beijing University, Tsinghua University, Harvard University, Columbia University and Oxford University, et cetera. We have also established a roadmap to train new instructors. Many of our new instructors who graduated in July 2020, after over a half year of training have grown into instructors favored by students and parents a lot, some of whom have attracted over 10,000 regularly priced courses enrollment. Secondly, we constantly invest to develop and upgrade our educational content and products, compared with the end of 2019, our course content development team expanded over 4 times, bringing reach and localized content specialty. We have achieved progress is standardizing our curriculum in 2020 and have established curriculum of different difficulty levels across our primary school and high school courses. In 2021, we will continue to work on refining our curriculum. We developed our course content, and our lecture training jointly to streamline our course delivery process. This practice ensures the…

Operator

Operator

Thank you. We will now begin the question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Mark Li with Citi. Please go ahead.

Mark Li

Analyst

Hi, management. Thank you very much for the presentation. I want to ask for the year of 2021, we have any full-year guidance in terms of revenue, gross margin and loss margin and any more color? Thank you.

Larry Xiangdong Chen

Analyst

[Interpreted] Thank you, Mark. We moderately reviewed the traffic acquisition expenses for information flow channels in the fourth quarter of 2020 and the first quarter of 2021. So that might affect the growth speed of first quarter. As you know that, there is traffic acquisition through the information flow channels, if we fully rely on that to bring the scale extension of revenues it’s easy to just purely pursue the scale. However, if we are pursuing effective growth, that needs real organizational capability. Secondly, the spring semester for the first quarter 2021 opens around 2 weeks later than the same period of 2020. That also negatively affects the first quarter’s revenue recognition as Shannon mentioned. Thirdly, we are actively exploring innovative acquisition channels including offline options and we believe that we bring positive impacts to our Q2 and Q3’s growth. Fourth, we continue to raise the compensation for our students. We believe this will benefit the retention of our tutors and also our students. Fifth, for our adult business segment, we have almost reviewed and established a team. So we believe this segment will see a relatively high growth in the second half of 2021. Undoubtedly, for just the information flow traffic acquisition channel in 2020, we do have seen the customer acquisition cost has been going up. If we compare the end of the year versus the beginning of the year, this rate of increase is fixed. So in some perspective, if we just a purely rely on the money spending in traffic acquisition channels of information flow channel to bring up the scale it seems does not work, it’s not working. Maybe some players are sacrificing their net profit margins to have relatively high growth. But our strategy is to pursue relatively healthy effective growth. In summary, we are pretty confident about our growth rate of full year 2021, so we hope for 2021 the full-year growth rate is going to be in the range of 70% to 80%.

Shannon Shen

Analyst

Hello, Mark, and adding to Larry’s point, I also want to provide more colors on our revenue guidance. As I mentioned in my prepared remarks, there are 3 factors needs to be taken into consideration when looking at our first quarter revenue guidance. The first is the class scheduling. Back to the first quarter in 2020, the spring semester courses actually started in February 2, for middle school and high school students. And for primary school students, the spring semester started during the last week in February. But this year in 2021, the Chinese New Year was relatively late. And the school actually started in the first week in March. So basically, we lost 2 whole weeks of revenue in the first quarter in 2021. And consider the high school and middle school revenue still contributes a considerable amount to our revenue, the impact on our Q1 revenue recognition should be higher than other companies, which primary school may take a lead position in the revenue recognition. So that’s one thing I want to add to our revenue guidance. So consider the seasonal factor, if we make an apple-to-apple comparison, the actual net revenue growth guidance for the first quarter should be higher than at least 62% to 65% on our perspective. And second is in this quarter – in the first quarter, we changed the way we recruit our students, because this winter vacation was too short to take both of the short-term promotional classes and the long-term and formal winter semester courses for students and parents. Actually, the winter vacation started by the end of the second week in January, and based on our class scheduling, there were only 2 weeks left for us to recruit winter semester regular class students. And so, that’s how we changed our…

Mark Li

Analyst

Thank you, Larry and Shannon. Very helpful.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Christine Cho with Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.

Christine Cho

Analyst · Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.

Hi. Hi, thank you, Larry and Shannon. I just wanted to get some update on the regulatory landscape. So it seems like the traffic competition is stepping down. But also, hearing some news about, for example, Beijing tightening some requirements on the teachers’ requirement, et cetera. How do you see this evolving? And how is this reflected in your guidance? Thank you.

Shannon Shen

Analyst · Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.

Thanks, Christine. Happy to address that. So in the past quarter, our sales and marketing expenses declined over around 13% quarter-over-quarter, we took this as a positive signal. In 2021, we expect to spend less of our customer acquisition budget on traffic acquisition from those social media platforms and extend our investment on some new and more innovative channels, such as live streaming platform or [Recarj Varthaihu and MC] [ph] and then short radio channels and even offline channels. When we are revealing what we have been doing in the past year in 2020, we spend or all the leading companies in this industry spend quite a lot of money on the social media platforms. And we acquire traffics, but we do – our observation was the overlap ratio of parents signing up for multiple educational platforms is increasing. And we foresee like the conversion may face some difficulties in the near future. And that’s why in the second half of 2020, we started to explore new channels, and for the traffic acquisition from all those social media platforms, it’s still like the whole industry highly relies on the algorithm provided by the agencies or the social media platform. The high cost in reliance can now translate into core capabilities or competitive advantage. And that’s why we want to explore new channels. So we did make some breakthroughs like, for instance, our private traffic pool metrics on some leading short video platforms has been at a top level of the industry, and that has always been our core competitiveness. And the sales order, we achieved per live streaming session is also leading in the industry. And this is what we are good at. We’re more prepared on both operational side and on the technology side. Actually, when we observe the…

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from DS Kim with JPMorgan. Please go ahead.

DS Kim

Analyst · JPMorgan. Please go ahead.

Hi, Mr. Chen, Shannon, and Sandy. Good evening and thanks for taking my questions. I actually have a few follow-ups from the previous comments you’ve made. And firstly on guidance first quarter, when you say 2Q revenue growth to be higher than the first quarter, are we comparing 2Q with like-for-like 65% growth or reported guidance of 45%? And I have a couple of follow-ups.

Shannon Shen

Analyst · JPMorgan. Please go ahead.

Sure. When I was talking about the revenue growth rate in the second quarter should be accelerated compared with the first quarter revenue growth rate.

DS Kim

Analyst · JPMorgan. Please go ahead.

Okay. Okay. So comparing with the 45% guidance, I mean, the actual number which should be similar to guidance, okay. And then, can I check…

Shannon Shen

Analyst · JPMorgan. Please go ahead.

Right. Right.

DS Kim

Analyst · JPMorgan. Please go ahead.

Thank you. May I check roughly how much gross billing and enrollment growth, would you expect for the first quarter? I think this may deflect underlying demands better than the revenue guidance. I think this is very helpful.

Shannon Shen

Analyst · JPMorgan. Please go ahead.

Thanks. Because we still have around one-third of the quarter left, and like I just mentioned, environment and things just change quickly. And so, it’s the best we provide our top-line guidance as we always do. And for other operating metrics, we will be more cautious about that guidance. Maybe we can provide more details after the quarter-end. Thanks.

DS Kim

Analyst · JPMorgan. Please go ahead.

Thank you. Yeah. Thank you. Final question is then, can I ask if you have seen any meaningful slowdown in the last month of the quarter like, say, in the past 2, 3 weeks, or compared to the first half or first quarter? The reason why I’m asking this is comparing with some of our peers like TAL, their [series.com] [ph] guidance, it doesn’t seem like slowing down as much as what we guide. So, I was just wondering whether this is a different – this is because of the difference between the fiscal year end i.e., TAL cuts of their guidance for the February, we include March. So, just wanted to double check whether [indiscernible] guidance. Thank you. That will be all for me.

Shannon Shen

Analyst · JPMorgan. Please go ahead.

Thanks a lot. So compared to TAL, I’m really not in a position to do the comparison, because I personally am not very sure about like the guidance behind of their business. Because we’ve all – even though we are all large class business, but the class scheduling can be different and the revenue attributed to different segments can be different. And so that’s why it’s really hard to say without knowing all the details behind the guidance. But that – for us, I mean, just compared to our business, can we have a higher revenue growth rate? I think the answer is yes, but the price will be – may be exchanged for a larger scale of loss. But our operating philosophy is always we insist on effective growth and we need to make sure the unit economics or the business model works at least the LTV side. So, we really pay close attention to our data, especially on our customer acquisition costs. We need to make sure we are providing the best products to our students at the same time and our business actually works. So that may have different reasons behind the top-line growth. And also, when you compared to top-line growth, I also suggest you to take into consideration of the bottom line. See like the operating efficiency or maybe the operating margin level just to see how much was invested and how much was gained. I think that’s a more comprehensive picture.

DS Kim

Analyst · JPMorgan. Please go ahead.

Thank you. I agree and that’s very, very helpful. Thank you. But may if I follow-up on your point. Are you seeing a little faster drop-off or the slowdown in the latter half of the quarter versus first half? Or you don’t see much difference in terms of the growth building, enrollment growth, and et cetera.

Shannon Shen

Analyst · JPMorgan. Please go ahead.

We did see…

DS Kim

Analyst · JPMorgan. Please go ahead.

[indiscernible].

Shannon Shen

Analyst · JPMorgan. Please go ahead.

Yeah, yeah, that’s actually a really good question. And I think that refers to a bigger picture of the whole industry. From our observation, we do see like the overlap ratio between – let’s say, the parents sign up for multiple online learning platforms like the ratio keeps rising. So, that makes the parents need longer time to make the decision. But I think at least at this time, it’s a really good thing. After a rapid growth for already top players in the industry, it really comes to the area like we need to be really focused on our learning product and we care – or they need to really care about the students like where they learn, whether the courses we provided really help them, and they can stay with us for a longer time. And as the [series as a] [ph] compensation, I think the highest requirement was made to the management team that to handle such a large organization. At the same time, we need to keep taking initiatives to upgrade our products. In the long run, I think it’s a good thing. And only the good companies and companies with higher operating efficiency can survive.

DS Kim

Analyst · JPMorgan. Please go ahead.

Thank you. Very helpful.

Shannon Shen

Analyst · JPMorgan. Please go ahead.

Thanks.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Alex Xie with Credit Suisse. Please go ahead.

Alex Xie

Analyst · Credit Suisse. Please go ahead.

Hi, management. Thank you for taking my questions. So I would like to ask my questions in Chinese first and then translate by myself. [Foreign language] So, the first – my first question will be about how do you set your revenue growth target, how do you balance the ROI and efficiency versus the growth rate and market share? And do you worry that the gap between your number of enrollments, would widen a bit versus peers? Second question is about your TA team. Would you please share with us about the size of your TA team and how will you plan in 2021? And also, I’m glad to see the upgrades of your TA to the secondary instructor program. So, you can just share a bit more about how do you help them upgrade in terms of quality and how do you measure whether that succeed? Thank you very much.

Larry Xiangdong Chen

Analyst · Credit Suisse. Please go ahead.

[Interpreted] So, when we are – when we decide how big the growth rate target should be, there is a dollar rate indicator, should always be effective growth, a.k.a., the profitable growth based on lifetime value. And understand this, after quite a period after calculations, if we cannot reach this goal, we might not really reduce the spending on these channels to lead to a more sense of scientific growth. We are also calculating between ROI efficiency and the scale balance between them. And right now, we are pretty satisfied with our status. If we look at 2020, the revenue is over RMB7.1 billion, but our net loss is less than RMB1.4 billion. So, if we compare our performance with some other qualifiers according to some investors think that seems to matter, because they’re spending $2 to get $1 revenue back. In 2020, in terms of balancing between the ROI and the scale, we are doing a really great job. And in 2021, we are confident we do also a good job. I always believe, when we are doing the business, the core is not about competition. It’s more about serve each of your customers, your students, your parents to their satisfaction, being well, help your employees to grow. So, as of the scale of 2021 for our tutor, as of now, we plan to further recruit over 10,000 tutors. And the core how we are valuing our tutors or we call them second instructors, there are 2 parts. Firstly, how can redefine the recruiting model of the talents; secondly, we will expand the training for our secondary instructors. Thank you.

Alex Xie

Analyst · Credit Suisse. Please go ahead.

Thank you very much.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Felix Liu with UBS. Please go ahead.

Felix Liu

Analyst · UBS. Please go ahead.

Hi. Good evening. Thank you very much for taking my question. You mentioned about the FY 2021 growth will be healthier. So may I just dig a little bit into the details, I know the standard GP margin in the fourth quarter decline Q-on-Q, and you mentioned that teacher salary compensation increase was the reason. I think definitely that is the right thing to do, but how should we think about the GP margin trend going forward in the next few quarters? You mentioned about the increase in teaching assistants’ headcount, and noting that it should be relatively less than your revenue growth. So does that mean you know we could potentially see higher teaching assistant utilization and better GP margin? And also, on the sales and marketing side, definitely, happy to hear that you’re spending less on social media. So how should we think about the sales and marketing spending trends going forward in the next fiscal, in FY 2021? Thank you.

Shannon Shen

Analyst · UBS. Please go ahead.

Thanks, Felix. In this quarter, 3 main factors collectively led to our lower level of gross profit margins. First, for the autumn semester courses, we offered our students second round of short-term courses we call it [Chusia Chusiang] [ph] that started in November. And that courses has a lower ASP and a shorter term, and also has a smaller class size, which led to a lower level of gross profit margin. And the second reason is that as we communicated before, we position our tutors actually as secondary instructors, for their extraordinary services to our students. So to better improve our students and employees’ satisfaction and to further retain and develop our teaching talents, we do believe that a good teacher needs time to grow. So we need to be really patient. And we continued to increase our compensation to our tutors in the fourth quarter. So we believe our commitment to our secondary instructors will translate into stronger organizational capability and future business growth. And like you just mentioned, we definitely think this is the right thing to do. And the last reason was we have taken initiatives to further decrease our student-to-tutor ratio, with the aim to provide more personalized services to better serve our students. For instance, in a primary school center, we started to provide 1 versus 6, 3-course, small-class tutoring session that the tutor can actually see the faces of other children, and they can have a lot of interactions before the formal session start. And may received positive feedbacks from primary school students and parents. And also for middle school and high school, we provide [one worth] [ph] student a Q/A session after the class is over. And that’s how we can group people in different locations that provide more localized and certification level…

Felix Liu

Analyst · UBS. Please go ahead.

Okay, got it, very helpful. Thank you very much.

Operator

Operator

This concludes our question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Ms. Sandy Qin for any closing remarks.

Sandy Qin

Analyst

Okay, thank you, operator. And thank you, everyone, for joining the call today. If you have any further questions, please don’t hesitate to contact the company or contact us via e-mail, ir@genshuixue.com directly. And feel free to subscribe to our news alert on the company IR website. Thank you very much.

Operator

Operator

The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today’s presentation. You may now disconnect.