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First Bank (FRBA)

Q3 2019 Earnings Call· Wed, Oct 30, 2019

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Operator

Operator

Good morning, and welcome to the First Bank Third Quarter 2019 Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] Please note, this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Patrick Ryan, President and CEO. Please go ahead.

Patrick Ryan

Analyst

Thank you. I'd like to welcome everyone to today's third quarter earnings conference call. I'm joined by Steve Carman, our Chief Financial Officer; and Emilio Cooper, our Chief Deposits Officer. Before we begin, Steve, will you please read the safe harbor statement?

Stephen Carman

Analyst

The following discussion may contain forward-looking statements concerning the financial condition, results of operation and business the first time. We caution that such statements are subject to a number of uncertainties and actual results could differ materially, and therefore, we should not place undue reliance on any forward-looking statements we make. We may not update any forward-looking statements we make today for future events or developments. Information about risks and uncertainties are described under Item 1a risk factors in our annual report on Form 10-K for the year ended December 31, 2018, filed with the FDIC. Pat, back to you.

Patrick Ryan

Analyst

Thanks, Steve. I'd say the third quarter was a mixed quarter. We had some positive developments and some challenges. On a positive note, we had good organic loan and deposit growth. We saw good growth in our noninterest-bearing deposits. We did close our grand Bank merger at the end of the quarter, and we realized some benefits from cost-saving efforts that we've been implementing throughout the course of the year. So core expenses, excluding merger-related costs, were down in the quarter. We did receive a BBB sub debt rating from Kroll, which in and of itself, I think it's good to have, but also is a positive for us as we look ahead to May of 2020 when we have sub debt maturity and refinancing opportunity, and we believe that BBB rating from Kroll will certainly help with that process. We did have our tangible book value increase during the quarter despite some dilution from the Grand Bank deal, but we also had a positive there in that our ultimate dilution from the Grand Bank deal came in at about 2%, which was lower than our original estimate of 3%. As I mentioned, we had some challenges as well. Margin compression was somewhat greater than we anticipated, as the timing of our deposit repricing only started to get realized toward the end of the quarter and the potential benefit from that repricing did not really show up in the third quarter numbers. We also had an elevated provision to cover loan growth and higher charge-offs. The bulk of the charge-offs did come from acquired loans and we took a look back in our acquired loan recoveries from loans that we initially wrote down to 0, still outpace any charge-offs we've gotten from those acquired portfolios, but we'd obviously prefer to…

Stephen Carman

Analyst

Thanks, Pat. Net income for the 9 months ended September 30, 2019 were $10.0 million or $0.53 per diluted share compared to $13.5 million or $0.73 per diluted share for the same 2018 period. Net interest income for the comparable period was up $1.4 million or 3.4% to $42.2 million. Net income for the third quarter of 2019 was $2.9 million or $0.15 per diluted share compared to $5.4 million or $0.29 per diluted share for the third quarter of 2018. Net interest income was $14 million for Q3 2019, a decrease of about $582,000 or 4% compared to $14.6 million for the third quarter of 2018. On a linked-quarter basis, earnings for the third quarter of 2019 were $2.9 million or $0.15 per diluted share compared to net income of $2.8 million. For the second quarter of 15 -- second quarter were $0.15 per diluted share. Results for the 3-month comparative linked quarter reflected a modestly lower level of net interest income, due, in part, to a decline in net interest margin. Noninterest expenses were higher in the third quarter due primarily to higher merger-related costs. Absent these merger-related costs, noninterest expenses would have been $507,000 lower compared to the linked second quarter. The provision for loan losses for the third quarter reflects net charge-offs of $1.1 million inorganic loan growth for the quarter. Asset merger-related costs and gains on recovery of acquired loans, net income for the third quarter would have been about $3.5 million or $0.18 per share, diluted share. Throughout 2019, our focus has been on trying to mitigate margin compression in managing noninterest expense growth. The combination of the Federal Reserve lowering the federal fund rate twice during the quarter, and then ongoing inverted yield curve has resulted in loan pricing pressures. Our cash equivalent…

Emilio Cooper

Analyst

Thanks, Steve. My comments will focus on the organic growth of First Bank without the impact of Grand Bank included. Overall deposit results for Q3 were strong. Total average deposit balances were up by $56.9 million during the quarter versus Q2. We accelerated our disciplined focus and execution around generating and acquiring new noninterest-bearing relationships and built upon our momentum from the second quarter. We posted growth of nearly $11 million in NIB average balances. Our organic noninterest-bearing growth for the year is now up over 9%. We feel good about this growth when you consider this is happening during the year of a core system conversion. Nearly all of this growth has occurred post the first quarter and post the system conversion. We are excited about our opportunity to continue to increase these results as we strengthen the skills and abilities of our team to win this business in the marketplace. Our value proposition resonates well and our brand message and service delivery model of personal bankers, real relationships, provides unique advantage in an increasingly disruptive and shrinking competitive landscape. In Q3, we acquired 33 new relationships for over $8.7 million in average noninterest-bearing balances. We also saw growth in savings in CD balances during the quarter of $3.4 million and $52 million, respectively, as customers raced to lock in fixed rates, given the declining rate environment. The good news here is this growth allowed us to retire higher priced, more volatile funding sources that we leveraged in Q2 and positions us nicely to capitalize on falling rates as we retain and renew these CDs at reduced pricing upon maturity in 2020. This is a very positive theme, I'd like to highlight. As we look out on our maturing CDs over the next several months, you can expect to…

Patrick Ryan

Analyst

Thanks, Emilio. I appreciate that. And at this point, I'd like to turn it back to the operator.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Nick Cucharale with Sandler O'Neill and Partners.

Nicholas Cucharale

Analyst

So I wanted to start with expenses. I know you've been working on some cost initiatives in recent months. Can you update us on your progress and your expectation for savings from the Grand Bank deal?

Patrick Ryan

Analyst

Yes. Well, we certainly hit on the first part of that, which is folks that we didn't have slated to be retained at closing. So there were certainly, I'll call that a Phase I, that was completed. We also have a handful of folks that are being retained, basically, through the end of the year to help with the conversion, which we expect will take place in early December. So I think the people side of the equation as well as eliminating unnecessary contracts and other kind of general G&A expenses. Those things should basically be completed by the end of the year. So the bulk of those savings we should start to realize in the beginning half of 2020. We will also look at the branch footprint as we move forward. We don't have anything slated there yet, but certainly something we're taking a look at now that we have a few more branches within a pretty tight geographic radius here in Mercer County. So that may be a future opportunity. But so far, I think things are on track, Nick.

Nicholas Cucharale

Analyst

Okay, great. And then I appreciate your commentary on the margin and the moving factors. Do you anticipate some inflection in the NIM in the fourth quarter? Or do you see that kind of occurring in the -- in 2020 as the deposited [ street ] price?

Patrick Ryan

Analyst

Well, I would tell you, we certainly anticipate inflection from a funding cost standpoint. The trick, of course, is while we are liability-sensitive, to the extent that a portion of that sensitivity is in CDs. There's always a little bit of a timing delay. So the Fed moves and we got 20% of our assets that are floating rate that move immediately. And then we'll kind of play catch-up over the next several months to reprice liabilities and CDs to offset the impact of the rate move. So if we knew for certain that the Fed was done moving, then I would say, a margin inflection point would be nearby. As the Fed continues to move lower then, unfortunately, we'll have to chase for a little while until that stops, and then we can finally let the benefit of the repricing on the liability side take hold. So.

Nicholas Cucharale

Analyst

Fair enough. And then another strong quarter for organic loan growth. I heard you were remarking potentially slowing growth to protect the margin. Can you help us -- can you help quantify that impact? And more broadly, how are you thinking about that trade-off?

Patrick Ryan

Analyst

Yes. I mean, I think what we see as prudent in the near-term is to have an emphasis on growth being driven by the deposit side of the house, more so than lending. As you know, in the early stages of our development as a bank, we were in an all-out growth mode in terms of bringing in both loan and deposit customers. But it's easier to grow on the loan side than the deposit side, which led to situations where we had to backfill funding to bring in those good core loan customers. I think we're at a size now and we're at a position in the market based on interest rates and the economy that it makes sense to really focus on driving the core deposit growth, being willing to -- be a little bit more selective on the lending side, which gives us more flexibility to be disciplined on the deposit pricing side. So I can't tell you exactly what that means in terms of dollars because if we can exceed expectations on the core deposit funding side than we may be able to do a little bit more on the lending side as well. So my expectation is that the percentage loan growth will come down. I think we will continue to grow at a reasonable rate organically, but probably not. 2020, I wouldn't expect the same percentage loan growth that you've seen in years past.

Nicholas Cucharale

Analyst

Okay, great. And then I know there's been some fluidity with respect to the tax rate. But is this quarter's level a good rate going forward?

Patrick Ryan

Analyst

Yes. I mean, I think we're hopeful we can even slide it down a little bit. But I think, plus or minus, it's a decent number.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] As we have no further questions, this concludes our question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Patrick Ryan for any closing remarks.

Patrick Ryan

Analyst

I'm sorry, it does look like there may be another question that's come in?

Operator

Operator

Oh, yes. This question will come from Howard [ Henick ] with ScurlyDog Capital.

Unknown Analyst

Analyst

I'm not amiss in the release, but we had a large C&I loan that was -- we took some charges against and then, but we weren't sure how it would be resolved. And you said earlier that all reserves that are taken to satisfy basically, any kind of issues that we have going forward. Does that include that loan that we talked about in the prior quarter or no?

Patrick Ryan

Analyst

Well, to clarify, the charges that were taken in the quarter fully resolved the issues associated with those loans. The C&I loan that we mentioned in Q2 is still being worked through, but there were no charges taken in the third quarter related to that. We do have a specific reserve associated with that, which, at this time, we believe is adequate, but that's still a bit of a fluid situation.

Unknown Analyst

Analyst

So there's no further updates on this -- at this point in time?

Patrick Ryan

Analyst

No, it's something that we're still working through.

Unknown Analyst

Analyst

And what -- just remind us, what was the total amount of that loan? And how much is currently reserved? So how much of it is still theoretically at risk or could do better?

Patrick Ryan

Analyst

We didn't disclose the amount of the specific reserve associated with that credit relationship. But there were -- there was a line of credit and a term loan and a mortgage loan, which aggregated about $8.5 million.

Unknown Analyst

Analyst

And we're not saying how much of it we've already basically [indiscernible] [up against it].

Patrick Ryan

Analyst

No, we're not, because we're still working through the situation.

Operator

Operator

This will conclude our Q&A. I would like to turn the conference back over to Patrick Ryan for closing remarks.

Patrick Ryan

Analyst

Well, that concludes our comments for today. So we appreciate folks calling in, and look forward to providing an update at the end of the fourth quarter. Thank you very much.

Operator

Operator

The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.