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Q3 2011 Earnings Call· Tue, Nov 1, 2011

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Operator

Operator

Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Third Quarter 2011 Earnings Release Conference Call for FMC Corporation. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, today's conference call is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to your host, Mr. Brennen Arndt. Please go ahead.

Brennen Arndt

Analyst

Greg, thank you, and welcome, everyone, to FMC's third quarter 2011 conference call and webcast. Joining me today are Pierre Brondeau, President, Chief Executive Officer and Chairman; Milton Steele, President, Agricultural Products; and Kim Foster, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. Pierre will begin the call with a review of our third quarter performance. Pierre will then turn the call over to Milton, who will provide an in-depth review of the current performance and outlook for industrial products group, as well as share his insights into the growth strategies that underpin Agricultural Products' sustainable premium performance. Following Milton, Kim will report on our financial position, and Pierre will complete the call by providing our outlook for the balance of the year and by taking your questions. Joining Pierre, Milton and Kim for the Q&A session will be Michael Wilson, President, Specialty Chemicals Group; and Mark Douglas, President, Industrial Chemicals Group. A reminder that our discussion today will include statements that are forward-looking and subject to various risks and uncertainties concerning specific factors summarized in FMC's 2010 Form 10-K, our most recent Form 10-Q and other SEC filings. This information represents our best judgment based on today's information. Actual results may vary based on these risks and uncertainties. Our current 2011 outlook statement, which provides our guidance for both the full year and the fourth quarter of 2011, was posted this morning on our website available at fmc.com. Also on our website, you will find the definition of certain non-GAAP financial terms that we'll refer to during today's conference call under the heading entitled, Glossary of Financial Terms, as well as a reconciliation to GAAP of those non-GAAP figures we will use today. It's now my pleasure to turn the call over to Pierre Brondeau. Pierre?

Pierre R. Brondeau

Analyst

Thank you, Brennen, and good morning, everyone. As you saw in our earnings release, we delivered another quarter of strong performance. We saw healthy demand across our businesses and diverse end markets, especially in rapidly developing economies. We see rich opportunities for organic growth and made good progress advancing our external growth initiatives. Consistent with our Vision 2015 objectives, we are making focused investments that will raise our growth trajectory. In Agricultural Products, we established a joint venture in Argentina, Ruralco Soluciones, to directly access the country's large and growing agrochemical market. We also formed collaborations with Chr. Hansen and Marrone Bio Innovations in agricultural biologicals. In BioPolymer, we announced an agreement to acquire BioGroup, the leading natural colors and specialty nutrition ingredients producer to broaden our portfolio in food ingredients and pharmaceuticals. In Peroxygens, we completed the purchase of the persulfates business of RheinPerChemie to accelerate our shift to high end margin specialties. In soda ash, we formed Natronx Technologies in partnership with Church & Dwight and TATA Chemicals to manufacture and market sodium-based dry sorbents for air pollution control in electric utility and industrial boiler operations. In addition to these investments to support our organic growth opportunities and focused external initiatives, we repurchased $100 million of our stock in the third quarter. We look for a strong finish to 2011 with key performance metrics on or above trend line toward realizing our Vision 2015 objectives. Going forward, we see a promising pipeline of small to mid-sized companies to further advance our external growth initiatives. We also continue to evaluate attractive organic growth opportunities to selectively employ capital. We'll provide a more detailed view of this next quarter as we outline our 2012 capital plan. Moving to our performance in third quarter 2011. Sales of $862 million increased by…

Milton Steele

Analyst

Thank you, Pierre, and good morning, everyone. I'm pleased to be here with you today to report on the current performance and outlook for Agricultural Products Group. After updating you on our third quarter performance and outlook for the balance of the year, I will provide insights into the growth strategies that underpin our Vision 2015 objective of approximately doubling EBIT over the next 5 years while keeping our margins at the same high level they are today. First, let me review Ag's third quarter performance. Third quarter revenue of $382 million increased 24% versus last year's quarter. We posted sales gains in all regions. Our highest sales growth was in Latin America, which increased 31%. Growth was particularly robust in Brazil, driven by continued strong market conditions in key crops such as sugarcane, cotton and soybeans. This exceptional start to the 2011-2012 crop season reflects strong commodity prices, growth in planted acres and our industry-leading positions in sugarcane and cotton. Based on current market dynamics, we are optimistic that the strong start to the Brazil season will translate into a well-above-average 2011-2012 crop season in Brazil. Our internal and external growth initiatives both contributed to the sales improvement in the quarter. In Asia, sales were also up significantly in the quarter, increasing 18% versus last year, driven by newly launched products, our market access initiatives and favorable market conditions in most key countries, including India, Pakistan, China and Thailand. Sales and earnings growth in Asia had been outstanding in 2011, and we remain confident of continued momentum for the rest of the year and into 2012. In North America, high insecticide volumes drove a 9% sales increase. As expected, herbicide volumes were down in the quarter due to less favorable weather conditions in several market segments. And in Europe,…

W. Kim Foster

Analyst

Thanks, Milton, and good morning, everyone. Today I'll report on our cash flow, our recent refinancing actions and update you on our share repurchase program. First, cash flow. Our forecast for free cash flow is reaffirmed at $200 million to $225 million. A reminder. The free cash flow is determined -- is defined as after all uses, except acquisitions, dividends and share repurchase. Moving to our recent refinancing. On August 5, we announced that we executed a $1.5 billion 5-year credit agreement. This agreement includes options to increase the available amount to $2.25 billion and extend the maturity for up to an additional 2 years. It replaces 2 existing credit agreements that totaled $915 million that were scheduled to mature in August of 2012. This new financing commitment provides the essential foundation upon which we will continue to build our financial resources. Together with our strong balance sheet and significant cash flow, this agreement provides ample financial resources to support our attractive organic growth opportunities to pursue our focused external growth opportunities and to reward our shareholders with additional liquidity through share repurchases and a growing dividend stream. Finally, share repurchases. In the third quarter, we repurchased 1.275 million shares in open market transactions at a total cost of $100 million, consistent with the commitment we made during our last quarter conference call. This repurchase contributed approximately $0.01 a share to the quarterly results. At the beginning of the fourth quarter, we had approximately $200 million remaining under our existing board authorization. Our strategy of returning cash to shareholders continues to balance prudent financial policy with the competing demands of organic growth investments and the capital needed to support selected external growth opportunities. Before I close, let me make a comment on the third quarter tax rate. The tax rate applied to the adjusted $1.39 per share of earnings was 29%. This is the same rate that we've been estimating and using throughout 2011. During the quarter, there was a tax benefit FMC realized associated with prior year tax matters. While this benefit was included in our GAAP results, we did not include the benefit in the adjusted earnings per share of $1.39. The schedules we included in the press release provides a detailed reconciliation of the GAAP to adjusted earnings. With that, I'll now turn the call back to you, Pierre.

Pierre R. Brondeau

Analyst

Thanks, Kim. Regarding our outlook for the fourth quarter, we anticipate a strong finish to the year. For the fourth quarter of 2011, we expect adjusted earnings of $1.30 to $1.40 per diluted share, a 23% increase above last year at the midpoint of this range. In Agricultural Products, we look for segment earnings to increase in the low teens, led by growth in Latin America, partially offset by increased spending on targeted growth initiatives and higher raw material costs. In Specialty Chemicals, we project earnings to increase in the mid-teens as higher volume and selling price in the old [ph] BioPolymer and lithium product line are partially offset by higher raw material costs. In Industrial Chemicals, we expect earnings growth be approximately 50% for the fourth quarter, driven by higher selling prices in soda ash and peroxygen, the benefit of volume growth in soda ash export market and the continued shift towards specialties in peroxygen. Move to our outlook for the full year 2011. We have raised the midpoint of our previous outlook, and now expect adjusted earnings of $5.70 to $5.80 per diluted share, a 16% increase above last year, the midpoint of this range. As Milton said, our Agricultural Products segment expects to achieve its eighth consecutive year of record earnings, up approximately 10% versus a year ago, driven by strong market conditions across most regions and the contribution of new and recently introduced products, while increased spending on growth initiatives and absorbing higher raw material costs. Specialty Chemicals is expected to deliver its sixth consecutive year of record earnings in the high single digits, led by the seventh consecutive year of record earnings in BioPolymer and sales gains in lithium specialties, partially offset by increased spending on growth initiatives and higher raw material costs. And in our Industrial Chemicals segment, we expect the highest earnings growth, up approximately 25% to 30%, driven by broad-based sales gains across soda ash and peroxygen and the continued [indiscernible] mix shift towards specialty peroxygen. With that, I thank you for your time and attention, and I'll be happy to take your questions.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Your first question comes from the line of Mike Sison from KeyBanc.

Michael J. Sison - KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc., Research Division

Analyst

In terms of soda ash, could you give us an idea of volume trends this quarter? And heading into the fourth quarter, I know the export market remains strong. But the domestic, has it held up pretty well?

Mark A. Douglas

Analyst

Mike, this is Mark. Domestic has been running at about 1% to 2% volume change year-on-year as we've gone through this year. We're really not seeing that changing at the moment. And your comments around export, we see the global markets running at about 4%, and that's been pretty consistent throughout this year. So bottom line for us on volume, no real change in terms of demand as we go through Q4.

Michael J. Sison - KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc., Research Division

Analyst

Okay, great. And so given that -- the negotiations for price increases for soda ash into '12, if volumes remain good, should be positive, right? Is that sort of how the math usually works when demand has -- holds up?

Mark A. Douglas

Analyst

Yes, I think your analysis is pretty good. Obviously, we -- we're at the very early stages of negotiations for next year, and I don't have any news to convey at this call. We will have by the February call. But given the fact that we're in a sold-out position as is the rest of the soda ash industry in North America, yes, we have a very positive outlook for next year.

Michael J. Sison - KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc., Research Division

Analyst

Okay, great. And then one quick question on Specialty Chemicals. Yes, I think I understand why your leverage in earnings weren't as poignant as maybe you had hoped in the third quarter. But if you take away the lithium issues -- would -- did biopolymers have a pretty good quarter in terms of earnings growth?

D. Michael Wilson

Analyst

Yes, Mike. This is Michael Wilson. And BioPolymer did have a strong quarter and, in fact, saw a margin improvement during the quarter year-over-year. So both benefits from price and volume.

Operator

Operator

Your next question also the line of Frank Mitsch from Wells Fargo.

Frank J. Mitsch - Wells Fargo Securities, LLC, Research Division

Analyst

Just sticking with Specialty Chemicals, I think you had guided that you thought they would be up 5% year-over-year, and it what was up or just over 1%. Now I know you mentioned the lithium mine outage or the lithium mine issues, but that was kind of early on in the quarter. Can you help quantify where the delta was in Specialty Chemicals versus the original expectations?

D. Michael Wilson

Analyst

Yes, Frank, this is Michael Wilson. And really, all of the EBIT margin compression we saw in the quarter was related to Lithium and associated with the operational issues we had in Argentina. I think we guided at the last call that we expected that to be about a $3 million impact. And I would say it was in that range, but maybe a bit to the high side of $3 million. And that was really the issue.

Frank J. Mitsch - Wells Fargo Securities, LLC, Research Division

Analyst

All right. So it was all on the Lithium side then?

D. Michael Wilson

Analyst

Yes.

Pierre R. Brondeau

Analyst

I think my -- it's impossible -- it's very possible -- it's very important for us, Frank, to make it very clear. The specialty business, the food, pharma and BioPolymer were very strong and exactly where we're expecting. The margin compression was solely due to the Lithium business, and we can very surely say that those issues are behind us going into the fourth quarter. But there was absolutely no -- nothing we were not forecasting on the BioPolymer side.

Frank J. Mitsch - Wells Fargo Securities, LLC, Research Division

Analyst

Okay, terrific. And then just 2 questions on the ag business. So we had heard from another company that there were some pull-forward from the fourth quarter into the third quarter in terms of their Latin American ag results. It didn't sound like that was the case with FMC. Would you confirm that?

Pierre R. Brondeau

Analyst

Yes, Frank, it is not the case for FMC. We are obviously seeing a very strong start of the Latin American season in the third quarter, but those are not sales which were taken from the fourth quarter. We're expecting a very strong fourth quarter. And I think we can also say today that we are looking forward to a very strong first quarter in 2012. So there is no pulling forward of sales into the third quarter.

Frank J. Mitsch - Wells Fargo Securities, LLC, Research Division

Analyst

That's great, Pierre. And then lastly, margins came off a little bit on the ag side. But obviously, the top line was phenomenal. I guess some of this was raw material push. Can you talk a little bit more about the raw material price pressures and what your expectations are there?

Pierre R. Brondeau

Analyst

Yes, I mean, we will not add anything to what I'm saying, but we are seeing raw materials pressure. And let me a little bit quantify all of that in general. If you'll get all of the headwind we had, the currency impact, the raw material pricing, the mix effect, well, about a $30 million to $35 million headwind. On the raw materials front, we pretty much, not all of it but pretty much covered with price increase most of the cost increase. It's going to take a few quarters to really say that we are all covered 100% just because, as you know, when costs increase, the price always come with a little lag and usually stick a little bit beyond when raw material price goes down. So the time effect should balance us out with a good coverage of our raw material. We believe the pressure will be here on raw material for the next couple of quarters, but that's about the visibility we have, and we intend to fully cover that with price.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Dmitry Silversteyn from Longbow Research.

Dmitry Silversteyn - Longbow Research LLC

Analyst

I just want to confirm a couple of things. First of all, the long wall move, that -- that's all done. And the start-up costs associated with the Granger, that's all behind us in the third quarter. So we should be looking at cleaner numbers in the fourth quarter?

Pierre R. Brondeau

Analyst

That's correct.

Dmitry Silversteyn - Longbow Research LLC

Analyst

And what was the -- can you quantify the impact of that on the third quarter profitability?

Pierre R. Brondeau

Analyst

The impact on the third quarter of the move was about $4 million.

Dmitry Silversteyn - Longbow Research LLC

Analyst

Okay. And the start-up costs for Granger, were they also expensed or were they capitalized?

Pierre R. Brondeau

Analyst

Most of them were capitalized in the first half of the year, and I think they were mostly expenses in the third quarter but being more than offset by the benefit of selling product from the expansion.

Dmitry Silversteyn - Longbow Research LLC

Analyst

Got it. Okay, great. That's good to hear. The 30% addition of Lithium, it sounds like it's on track. I'm assuming you're pre-selling some of that capacity as it comes online. What kind of utilization do you expect to see in 2012, or second half of 2012, if that product starts getting -- finding its way into the market?

Pierre R. Brondeau

Analyst

I don't know if I should say fortunately or unfortunately, but when we talked with our team today, we believe we'll be again out of capacity by the time we close on 2012 or start on to 2013.

Dmitry Silversteyn - Longbow Research LLC

Analyst

Okay. So you're looking at perhaps another expansion in 2013 or so?

Pierre R. Brondeau

Analyst

We're going to look -- right now, we are making decisions around the large expansion we have to do for Lithium business. So we're expecting to make a decision sometime in December for a larger expansion, mostly done in a couple of tranches, expecting a start-up of the new plant by 2014.

Dmitry Silversteyn - Longbow Research LLC

Analyst

Okay. Okay, very good. And then finally, we've seen some inventory correction-related, let's hope, weakness in the electronics markets, everything from semiconductors to printed wiring boards. Have you begun to see anything or do you expect to see anything similar in the lithium storage device market as far as rechargeable batteries for some of these electronic devices?

Pierre R. Brondeau

Analyst

Not that we can see today. As you know, we've always been, of all of the lithium suppliers, the most conservative company in terms of forecast of the penetration of lithium in energy storage. Today, we are not changing our view in terms of the 2015 and 2020 numbers, but we have to say that the curve or the growth is increasing versus our initial models with maybe sales being stronger in energy storage in 2013 and 2014 than what we're expecting.

Dmitry Silversteyn - Longbow Research LLC

Analyst

So again, my question, Pierre, had more to do with, like, current applications for iPhones and iPads and whatnot. 2008, 2009, they were a little bit surprised by the inventory correction in the lithium channel from the battery manufacturers. Are there any -- we are seeing some weakness in various portions of electronics. It's assumed that it's inventory correction related and not necessarily end market demand related. Are you seeing anything like that? Or do you, being a little bit further back, are you still to see it?

Pierre R. Brondeau

Analyst

So we -- 2 things. We are not seeing it today. So we have no indication that there is a slowdown in that field, which is impacting us. Now we have to be careful because if you look at lithium, we are very early in the supply chain. So we are not a good indicator. So all in all, we are operating at 100% capacity utilization. So we are pushing back on orders, if anything. So we're not a very good indicator, but we have no evidence whatsoever that there is a slowdown.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Mike Harrison from First Analysis.

Michael J. Harrison - First Analysis Securities Corporation, Research Division

Analyst

I was hoping that we could talk a little bit about raw material versus pricing in the BioPolymers business. How much margin pressure were you seeing in the quarter compared to where you'd prefer to be in that business? And maybe, how much was raw material up and how much was pricing up on a year-over-year basis?

Pierre R. Brondeau

Analyst

Michael can give some more details around the quantification. What I want to say, as he was saying in the script, we covered more than 100% of the price increase but -- of the cost increase, but still creates a dilution just by the mathematical formula. Michael, do you want to give one idea?

D. Michael Wilson

Analyst

Well, I was just going to say that in both the quarter and for the year-to-date in BioPolymer, we have more than recovered all raw material and energy cost increases with higher pricing. So without quantifying it, we're ahead on price.

Michael J. Harrison - First Analysis Securities Corporation, Research Division

Analyst

And then, looking at the Lithium side of that business, Michael, as you look at the next round of capacity expansion, something that might come on stream more like 2014, how likely is it that you would look at a resource outside Hombre Muerto?

D. Michael Wilson

Analyst

I think in terms of our own expansion, I think that our next expansion is -- most likely, in all probability would be at Hombre Muerto and not outside there. So for one, that Pierre referenced in the 2014 time frame. I think for an expansion that we might need beyond that, and right now that's probably looking like 2017, we probably would consider other resource options in addition to further expansion in Argentina.

Michael J. Harrison - First Analysis Securities Corporation, Research Division

Analyst

And then in terms of the recent price increase announcement you guys have done on lithium, you announced, I believe, a 20% increase on primaries pricing. How much realization have you been getting there in the quarter? And could we see you get a little bit more traction maybe as some of your contracts roll over at the end of the year?

D. Michael Wilson

Analyst

Yes, and just for clarification, I think we announced a 20% increase on lithium carbonate and a range of increases, from 15% to 25%, on the other lithium salts. And then on downstream butyllithium, we had announced an 8% increase. Most of our contracts -- not quite to the degree that you see in soda ash, our annual contracts, a lot of that negotiation is going to be going on in the fourth quarter. So I don't really have a quantification of it, but I would say we are seeing traction in the price increase discussions and fully anticipate that we're going to have higher pricing in 2012 versus 2011.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Laurence Alexander from Jefferies. Laurence Alexander - Jefferies & Company, Inc., Research Division: Three quick things. First, on Peroxygens. How much of a drag on the quarter was the feedstock interruption expense?

Pierre R. Brondeau

Analyst

The cost for us of the hydrogen interruption was about $2 million. Laurence Alexander - Jefferies & Company, Inc., Research Division: Okay. And then on the ag business, as you look out towards 2012, 2013, to what extent is the current growth rates or are the current growth rates sustainable? Or are you essentially pulling growth forward from the next couple of years because of either market dynamics or the way you're going to market?

Milton Steele

Analyst

It's Milton here. We are very, very sure that we're not bringing sales forward. And I wouldn't know how to do -- bring 2013 into 2011. I'm also very, very optimistic about the outlook for the ag business, driven by strong commodity prices, low stock-to-use ratios, the market model, the strong positions we have in our core markets, our innovation efforts of bringing us new products as well. So I am very optimistic that we can continue these growth rates, both on macro conditions external to industry and what's going on in our own business. Laurence Alexander - Jefferies & Company, Inc., Research Division: Maybe just to flesh that out just a little bit more, if we could. The -- over the last few years, you really expanded your competitive advantage against your competitors through your shifts in strategy and a pretty solid execution. You're now seeing the competitors talk a lot more about various versions of the right product, right acreage, multi-strategies. What can you do to continue to expand your lead in ag so that you can maintain the growth rates above the market growth?

Milton Steele

Analyst

Laurence, I hope I covered a lot of this in my outlook. And obviously, they'll be posted on the web. But really, our strategy is not easily replicable. If it was, there'd be a lot of folks copying what we do every day. It takes a lot of time to institutionalize the elements of our strategy. And while they are trying to catch up with us, if you like, and it's kind of you to say that, we spend an awful lot of time and a lot of money coming up with the next series of innovations, the next product additions to our product line, the next technologies. So we're not really sitting still on that element of our business. It's an absolute key focus of ours. And we have a pretty robust pipeline. So I'm, again, confident that we can continue to compete competitively and profitability in this industry.

Pierre R. Brondeau

Analyst

I think, just to repeat, Milton said it, and I won't to insist on that, it is not an easily repeatable strategy. Just a few points. Again, going asset-light for any other company is a very difficult process and a very expensive process and it takes time. Having the relationship with companies to do technology scouting and having partnership and licensing, you build that over a number of years. Having the core competencies in formulation, because we have become over time formulations expert, that's where we focus. It's something which takes time. And then last one, we are really crop-focused, which is not something you can do overnight. So I believe we do have a sustainable advantage on the way we are operating in our ag business. Laurence Alexander - Jefferies & Company, Inc., Research Division: And then lastly, just very quickly, given the current market valuations, any shift in your perspective on doing slightly larger M&A?

Pierre R. Brondeau

Analyst

No, no shift. I think the interesting thing is that companies do have markets -- market value which are lower today, but the premium and the multiple are still high. So we are continuing with our focused approach, small companies, medium-sized companies, product line acquisition, where we can have more of the synergies being growth synergies, like all of those acquisition we have acquired. Yes, we are sticking right now with our $800 million external growth strategy between now and 2015 coming from small and medium-sized acquisitions. We're not shifting to bigger acquisition.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Peter Butler from Glenhill Investments.

Peter Butler - Glen Hill Investments

Analyst

Pierre, compared to your 2015 projections that you made at your analyst meeting, how much of the -- how much sales potential has been added? It seems like across the board almost, you talk about additional opportunities. And so how much has been added to your projections? And what are -- what's the biggest increments there -- what are the biggest increments there? And are they -- these increments expected to have better-than-average or better than company average margins and returns?

Pierre R. Brondeau

Analyst

Yes, Peter. I think today, if you remember Vision 2015, we -- last year, the company had about $3 billion in sales, and we were contemplating organic growth taking us to about $4.2 billion. Today, we could see our way to $4.6 billion, $4.7 billion in organic growth, which is additional $400 million to $500 million. But it would highly depend upon decisions we would make around capital investment, which we have not made. We still have a discussion with our Board in December. So by the end of December, we should have a very clear idea of what we will be undertaking and when. So those opportunities do depend upon the speed at which we realize some of the capital investments we could make. But yes, we could see a way if all goes well and if we would do all of the capital we want to do or we possibly could do to a $4.6 billion.

Peter Butler - Glen Hill Investments

Analyst

Pierre, at Rohm and Haas, you were very, very successful in building a world-class electronic materials business. Do you see similar possibilities to build any of FMC's current businesses into similar powerhouses?

Pierre R. Brondeau

Analyst

We -- what we will be doing with FMC is making the businesses we have in ag, food, pharmaceutical, lithium and industrial -- we intend to make those businesses stronger with a broader product line. The only place where we will have a slightly new business, but mostly with technology which are currently within the portfolio or we could acquire, would be in environmental solutions. So we'll bring -- we are looking today and contemplating the path needed to create a growth platform in air, water and ground remediation. And we do have some good ideas on how to build that, but this is a few months away. Now it will not be to the extent of what was done in [indiscernible] where we built a $2.5 billion. I think the difference between FMC today and Rohm and Haas 10 years ago is that we do have the businesses which have growth potential organically and inorganically Rohm and Haas do not have. So I don't think we need to branch out of our core businesses to have a good growth story.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Rosemarie Morbelli from Gabelli & Company. Rosemarie J. Morbelli - Gabelli & Company, Inc.: Pierre, just going back to what you just said about the $800 million of external revenues between -- that you are expecting, is that between 2010 and 2015? Or is that from today's level following the small acquisitions you have already made?

Pierre R. Brondeau

Analyst

Well, it's from 2010 to 2015. Now that being said, the small acquisitions we do today will represent -- or represent little growth in terms of sales because they are small companies, but they have very interesting growth platforms. So it's going to be an organic growth based on inorganic growth. So we'll buy some companies and we'll grow them. But the $800 million is from the 2010 numbers to the 2015 numbers. Rosemarie J. Morbelli - Gabelli & Company, Inc.: Okay. And then I was wondering if you could touch a little more on your Peroxygens going towards customers in the oil and gas area. And I am assuming that fits into your just, I mean, recently made comments about wanting to go into environmental solution.

Pierre R. Brondeau

Analyst

And Mark, please?

Mark A. Douglas

Analyst

Yes, Rosemarie, this is Mark. In some degree, yes, there would be a potential environmental play in the oil and gas area, whether it's for biocidal uses or for frac-ing chemicals. Both of those are of interest to us, and we do have applications there today with our technologies. So the environmental field crosses over there. So there may well be an overlap. Rosemarie J. Morbelli - Gabelli & Company, Inc.: Now you have the technologies. Do you actually have any business currently? Or is that to come?

Mark A. Douglas

Analyst

No, we have a business in both a biocide application and in some of the frac-ing chemicals itself. Rosemarie J. Morbelli - Gabelli & Company, Inc.: Could you give us a scale for the size of that business today?

Mark A. Douglas

Analyst

Yes, it's very small. It's embryonic right now. Rosemarie J. Morbelli - Gabelli & Company, Inc.: Okay. And still in that category, could you touch a little more on the sodium-based products that you are going to be working on as a tandem with TATA and Church & Dwight regarding dry sorbents for air pollution control and electric utilities? Is that -- well, first of all, what are you expecting to remove from the air? Let's start with that.

Mark A. Douglas

Analyst

Yes, that is a new application for us with our partners in terms of using trona for removing acid gas from utilities. It is a technology that's used today. And we're expanding. We will have a new plant onstream by the end of 2012, which will have about a 400,000-ton capacity. This is all driven by legislation in the U.S. And it uses our key raw material, which is trona which we mine in Wyoming. Rosemarie J. Morbelli - Gabelli & Company, Inc.: Is that -- when you say it's removing acid gas, is that also removing mercury? Or that is totally a different issue?

Mark A. Douglas

Analyst

Yes, mercury is obviously an issue that's getting a lot of press, and we do not play in that field with our ground trona. Rosemarie J. Morbelli - Gabelli & Company, Inc.: And one last question, if I may. Are you done with the stock repurchase for this year? And -- or are we going to see a little more in the fourth quarter? And which number of shares should we -- well, I guess I just saw it in your press release, 72 million shares. So you are expecting the number of shares to increase from Q3 to Q4, is that correct?

Pierre R. Brondeau

Analyst

We -- well, first, as Kim said, we completed the $100 million share repurchase. And we made a commitment in term of share repurchase and return of cash to shareholders in a 5-year period between 2010 and 2015. So we are not finished for what we can do over a 5-year period. So we always look at the possibility to move up or stay on schedule. So it's something we constantly look at, but something we will be talking about in the month to come in term of when is the next action we'll be able to take in term of share repurchase. But it's something we constantly have in front of us, and we'll be letting you know when the next one will come. Rosemarie J. Morbelli - Gabelli & Company, Inc.: And the shares outstanding, is that on a fully diluted basis? And therefore, is that because of options?

W. Kim Foster

Analyst

Rosemarie, this is Kim. I'm sorry, I didn't hear your question. Could you ask it again? Rosemarie J. Morbelli - Gabelli & Company, Inc.: The 72 million shares that you are looking at for the quarter, I think...

W. Kim Foster

Analyst

Yes, that's the full year forecast. Rosemarie J. Morbelli - Gabelli & Company, Inc.: That is a full year forecast? Okay, all right.

Operator

Operator

Your final question today comes from the line of Kevin McCarthy from Bank of America.

Kevin W. McCarthy - BofA Merrill Lynch, Research Division

Analyst

How much of the incremental 500 kilotons per annum of capacity at Granger would have been loaded in the third quarter?

Mark A. Douglas

Analyst

Kevin, this is Mark. We are running at pretty close now in the fourth quarter to our 500,000-ton capacity. But obviously, that's being skewed. I would guess round about 175,000 tons as we went through the quarter, as a rough guess.

Kevin W. McCarthy - BofA Merrill Lynch, Research Division

Analyst

Okay. So just so I understand, the 500 kilotons would have been something like 125 max in the quarter? And you're saying between 30% and 40% of that would have been running?

Mark A. Douglas

Analyst

Yes, because we ramped up July 1, basically, and it was a ramp-up as we moved through the quarters. So we were slow at the beginning in the quarter, getting up to a decent rate at the end of the quarter. And now we're moving along at just below the 500,000-ton rate.

Kevin W. McCarthy - BofA Merrill Lynch, Research Division

Analyst

Great. And then shifting gears to Specialty Chemicals. Pierre, based on your prepared remarks, it struck me that it seems that though demand for microcrystalline cellulose is running stronger than it would be for carrageenan and alginates, is that correct? And if so, what is driving that disparity?

Pierre R. Brondeau

Analyst

Yes, it is correct. That is the product line which is by far the fastest-growing product line and more than the other 2. It is linked to the applications. And the markets that product line is serving, and especially on the food side, the growth in China in the dairy market, which is one of the reasons for which, in addition to the 2 expansions we've been doing over the current sites in Europe and North America, we are looking to make a decision between now and the end of the year for an expansion in Asia where we have the fastest growth.

Kevin W. McCarthy - BofA Merrill Lynch, Research Division

Analyst

Okay. And then a final question, if I may. It relates to Europe. I think you commented that your sales in EMEA increased 16%. And Milton, if I heard you right, I think you said ag was up 17%, which implies that the sum of Industrial and Specialties would have been up by, let's say, mid-teens. I don't think of you as exporting an awful lot of soda ash to Europe. So could you comment on what's driving the strength regionally for you in Europe? Many of the other chemical companies that we follow actually have negative volumes in the quarter.

Pierre R. Brondeau

Analyst

Most of the growth outside of ag in Europe is driven by BioPolymer. That is, we need a product line today which is the fastest-growing product line. If I look quarter-on-quarter, we are -- for overall Specialty in Europe, we are in the high teens.

Operator

Operator

And there are no further questions. Mr. Brondeau, please continue.

Pierre R. Brondeau

Analyst

All right. Well, thank you very much for your time and your interest. Just let me reiterate a few words where I believe FMC is. I think we are off a good quarter, and we are contemplating today a solid fourth quarter with a very healthy demand in the markets we are serving. All in all, we are pleased we -- where we stand, and we believe we are on line with our 2015 objective or even above these objectives at all levels, whether it's on the organic growth, financials, ratios, cash returns to our shareholders and even external growth where we are very pleased with the progress made to date and the pipeline we have in front of us. So on those words, I want to thank all of you for your time and in a few months.

Operator

Operator

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