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Flushing Financial Corporation (FFIC)

Q2 2020 Earnings Call· Wed, Jul 22, 2020

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Operator

Operator

Welcome to Flushing Financial Corporation Second Quarter 2020 Earnings Conference Call. Hosting the call today are John Buran, President and Chief Executive Officer; Susan Cullen, Senior Executive Vice President, Treasurer, and Chief Financial Officer; and Frank Korzekwinski, Senior Executive Vice President and Chief of Real Estate Lending. Today’s call is being recorded. [Operator Instructions] A copy of the earnings press release and slide presentation that the company will be referencing today are available on its investor relations website at flushingbank.com. Before we begin, the company would like to remind you that discussions during this call contain forward-looking statements made under the safe harbor provisions of the U.S. Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Such statements are subject to risks, uncertainties and other factors that may cause actual results to differ materially from those contained in any such statements. Such factors are included in the company’s filings with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission. Flushing Financial Corporation does not undertake any obligation to update any forward-looking statements except as required under applicable law. During this call, references will be made to non-GAAP financial measures as supplemental measures to review and assess operating performance. These non-GAAP financial measures are not intended to be considered in isolation or as a substitute for the financial information prepared and presented in accordance with the U.S. GAAP. For information about these non-GAAP measures and for reconciliation to GAAP, please refer to the earnings release or the presentation. I’d now like to introduce John Buran, President and Chief Executive Officer, who will provide an overview of strategy and results. Please go ahead.

John Buran

Analyst

Thank you. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us on our second quarter 2020 earnings call. I will start out by reiterating that our thoughts continue to go out to those most affected by COVID-19, especially the brave health care workers on the front lines of this pandemic. The health and welfare of our employees and customers remain our highest priority. I want to thank our employees, particularly for their outstanding work as we continue to successfully navigate through these unprecedented times. On today’s call, I will discuss our second quarter highlights as well as provide an update on decisive actions that we’ve taken in response to the COVID-19 pandemic and current economic environment. Then our CFO, Susan Cullen, will provide greater detail on our financial performance and credit quality. Following our prepared remarks, we will address your questions along with our Chief Real Estate Lending Officer, Frank Korzekwinski. Starting on Slide 3. I’m proud of how our team has responded with adaptability and flexibility since March. We were quick to respond to the pandemic with new health and safety measures, which are still in place today, including appointment banking, and expansion of remote capabilities to nearly all team members. We continue to actively support our customers. At June 30, 2020, as a result of COVID-19, we have acted forbearance on loans with a principal balance of approximately $1.3 billion. We have begun to see loans that have been granted forbearance start to return to making regularly scheduled loan payments as total forbearances are down from our intra-quarter peak. Through July 10, 63% of the $146 million of loans scheduled to return to regularly scheduled payments have done so. Additionally, we’ve actively participated in the SBA Paycheck Protection Program, originating $93 million of these loans. We are one…

Susan Cullen

Analyst

Thank you, John. I’ll begin on Slide 9. Nonperforming loans totaled $20 million, which is 34 basis points of gross loans, and we charged-off $1 million for the quarter. Loan-to-value on real estate dependent loans amounted to 38% as of June 30, and the average loan-to-value for nonperforming loans collateralized by real estate was 30%. As detailed on Slide 10, we believe the credit outlook for the company is well controlled. The company has a strong credit history and an active forbearance program. Our forbearances have declined 13% from the intra period peak of $1.5 billion. The loan portfolio remains 88% collateralized by real estate and loans delinquent greater than 90 days amount to 32 basis points of gross loans. As John noted, New York is beginning to open up, resulting in a decrease in the forbearance requests. Slide 11 shows 90-day delinquencies as a percentage of loans originated by year. Our credit discipline has remained consistent for the past 10 years as we’ve tightened the underwriting criteria back in 2009. As a result, in the last 10 vintage years, we have only 17 loans 90-day plus delinquent. Continuing on Slide 12. As good as our credit discipline has been, we’ve recognized continued uncertainty, so we recorded a provision for credit losses of nearly $10 million for the second quarter, primarily driven by deteriorating economic conditions resulting from the impact of COVID-19. The allowance evaluation as of June 30, the forecast showed a tough economy with elevated unemployment and decreasing GDP. We continue to use the Oxford economic forecast model. This model assumes that it will take three quarters for our losses to return to the historic norms. Our credit discipline has served us well coming into this environment, and we’ll continue to stay close to our customers and manage…

John Buran

Analyst

Thank you, Susan. On Slide 19, I’ll conclude by summarizing how we plan to continue to execute our strategic objectives to come out of this pandemic in an even stronger position. I remain incredibly proud of what all our team members have been able to do since March. We continue to play an essential role in supporting our communities and customers’ financial needs. Our balance sheet capital and liquidity going into this environment was strong, and our positive core earnings power provides a good base to absorb future credit losses. Stress testing indicates our ability to sustain material credit costs over a multiyear horizon, if necessary. Our consistent credit discipline has served us well coming into this economic environment, and we’ll continue to stay close to our clients and manage our loan portfolio prudently. Our ongoing focus on developing and maintaining a multilingual branch staff to serve our diverse New York City customers remains a key differentiator. The New York City market and its strong Asian customer base continue to represent a significant opportunity for us over the long term. We’ll continue to provide a safe and inclusive environment for all employees and customers. The investment in the Universal Banker model in our branches has been critical to our capability to serve our customers in this environment, along with our enhanced digital capabilities. As a result of this current experience as the restrictive economic environment eventually lifts, we will have a workforce that is more capable, flexible and dynamic, coupled with the customer base that is increasingly attuned to our online and mobile banking capabilities. In conclusion, we will remain focused on maintaining strong capital, liquidity and asset quality, while also controlling the expenses and managing our net interest margin to come out of this pandemic an even stronger and more resilient company. With that, we will now open it up for questions. Operator, I’ll turn it over to you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Steve Comery with G. Research. Please go ahead.

Steve Comery

Analyst

Hey, good morning.

Susan Cullen

Analyst

Good morning.

John Buran

Analyst

Good morning.

Steve Comery

Analyst

I wanted to start asking about NII and NIM. Obviously, really big improvement sequentially this quarter, really impressive how you guys have kind of offset the cost of funds. Maybe just some thoughts on going forward sort of the magnitude of the opportunity. I would guess, like we’re not going to see a repeat at this level. And I think kind of the context I’m looking at is on the Q1 presentation, you have disclosed $390 million of CDs rolling off in Q2. And then on the slide in this quarter, looks like the magnitude is a bit smaller going forward. Is that the right way to think about that?

Susan Cullen

Analyst

Yes. That is the right way to think about it. We had some specials, I believe, runoff. But the magnitude that we’d be looking at, as we’ve detailed on Slide 16, is we have this $800 million worth of CDs over the next four quarters that will be maturing, plus the ability to continue to reprice any non-time deposits. We have the borrowing capabilities, it’s around 18 basis points in some of our funding sources. So, we believe there’s some movement available in the – on the liability side of the NIM margin – of the NIM equation, excuse me.

Steve Comery

Analyst

Okay. So, should I read that as the trajectory of NIM should generally be upward going forward then?

John Buran

Analyst

Yes. I think all of the things being equal as long as assets are – remain consistent with what our projections are. And we do think we’ve got a fair amount of stability. We don’t have an expectation that the Fed is going to make another move downwards. So that’s built into our thoughts in this regard. 20% of the loan portfolio reprices annually. We don’t really expect much in the way of the floating rate portfolio, which is about 500 – between $500 million and $600 million to reprice downward unless there’s a change in Fed rates. So given that level of, let’s say, semi stability on the asset side, and given the opportunity that we have on the funding side, that Susan just outlined, I think we’re in good shape to see some expansion of NIM with those qualifications that I just mentioned.

Steve Comery

Analyst

Okay, very helpful. And then I think kind of on the same subject. So you mentioned the significant inflows to non-interest bearing accounts. Kind of wondering what the underlying customer behavior is there? Or like customers looking to keep more liquidity, because they’re less certain about what’s going on. Then if that’s the case, what are your expectations for how sticky those accounts will be?

John Buran

Analyst

So, some of it is obviously, PPP, and the rest of it, I think, is just a general focus on liquidity and also our ability to open up accounts during the pandemic, which, although down from historical levels has been more oriented toward DDA.

Steve Comery

Analyst

Okay, okay, very good. Appreciate the disclosure about ATM usage and online account opening, 75% transactions completed by ATM and 75% of account openings by online banking. So I mean, I guess just maybe like for context, do you have some like indication as to what the levels were like in previous quarters?

John Buran

Analyst

Considerably lower. They really weren’t even on – they really weren’t even on the chart. And we’ve been working this for a while, but it really wasn’t until we brought in our new online account opening capabilities that we started to see some activity. And that’s been a gradual increase since March. So, customers are telling us that our online banking account opening process has been very, very, very good and easy to use. We’ve had comments from customers about the – about our deposit-only card being very successful for business customers. There’s a lot of good things happening here that I think are just beginning to take place. We also used to have probably – well, right now, 90% of all of our customers who open accounts with us online do not have any human intervention at all. So those are going right through within minutes. Those account openings are taking place right through in minutes as opposed to having a substantial proportion going through a manual fraud control, which is what we had in the past. So, the capabilities that we put in place are significantly upgraded.

Steve Comery

Analyst

Okay, okay. Very helpful. I guess kind of just more of a general question. We have the extended unemployment benefits, running out – PPP funds are obviously going to run out in many cases. I guess just sort of like what areas are you guys like most focused on with – as we go forward, assuming there isn’t like substantial additional stimulus, I guess, like what are the kind of the main credit focus areas?

John Buran

Analyst

I would say, it’s managing our forbearance process, the managing people out of the forbearance process and maybe I’ll turn that over to Frank Korzekwinski, our Head of Real Estate Lending, to describe the process in a little bit more detail.

Francis Korzekwinski

Analyst

Hello, Steve. In the process requests for assistance started to come back in April, mid-March and early April. We set up – immediately set up a special team to manage the process of helping with the requests, so that we can streamline the process, provide timely response and try to get the relief that some of our customers had requested or were seeking at that particular time. It was a little bit challenging through early March and April. I mean, that was the peak season for the request for assistance. So, our team has been in place since probably early April, and they are communicating with our customers on a regular basis. We have especially e-mail boxes set up that we’re receiving interim financial statements, rent rolls, rent collection reports and helping them get back to the payment status that they had prior to COVID-19. So far, the initial response have been rather favorable. It appears as though March and April were the dark periods where requests were made, I guess, under dire circumstances or perceived dire circumstances. And I believe we saw – now that we’re coming off some of these relief plans, we saw that a number of customers probably were borderline scenarios for assistance, but the plans that we provided did enable them to build up cash so that they could return to a normal payment status sooner than later. Our overall assessment in the beginning was – having to look back is that there was a little bit of a hoarding of cash going on in the marketplace as many property owners really weren’t sure how long this shutdown of the economy was going to last.

John Buran

Analyst

So, I think we’re in that process right now. Clearly, what’s happened is at New York, where most of our exposure is, is beginning to come back. Stores are opening, and we clearly have a more favorable situation than we had in – at the end of March and into April.

Steve Comery

Analyst

Okay, very good. Maybe, just one final one from me. Maybe, just some general thoughts on the dividend commitment period and how comfortable you guys are continuing to pay that out under the current circumstances?

John Buran

Analyst

We have no plans at this time to make any change to the dividend.

Steve Comery

Analyst

Okay. Clear enough. That’s it from me. Thanks.

Susan Cullen

Analyst

Thanks, Steve.

John Buran

Analyst

Thank you, Steve.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from Collyn Gilbert with KBW. Please go ahead.

Collyn Gilbert

Analyst · KBW. Please go ahead.

Thanks. Good morning, everyone.

Susan Cullen

Analyst · KBW. Please go ahead.

Good morning.

Collyn Gilbert

Analyst · KBW. Please go ahead.

Maybe, if we could just start on expenses. I know that seasonally, comp is off and down in the second quarter. But can you just kind of give an outlook for where you sort of see expenses trending from here?

Susan Cullen

Analyst · KBW. Please go ahead.

I would expect, Collyn, that our expenses will trend very close to where they were this quarter.

Collyn Gilbert

Analyst · KBW. Please go ahead.

Okay. And any meaningful variation even beyond the third quarter, how you see expenses going? I mean, just, John, given some of your comments on online account opening and mobile usage, is there any other discussion happening within the expense structure that we could see maybe changes longer term?

John Buran

Analyst · KBW. Please go ahead.

So, I think over the long term, clearly, we think that we’re going to be a much more efficient operation, given the emergence of our online capabilities. I think that is going to grow over time. I can’t give you any specifics in that regard. But we do know that things like appointment banking have worked very, very well. We’ve enhanced our phone service. We’ve enhanced our video capabilities at the ATM level. So, we’ve had a significant increase in customers who’ve come in and have basically been serviced not by human being face-to-face, but a human being via our video capabilities off of the ATMs. So, while I think it’s too early to start to speculate about what the opportunities are, but clearly, they are many and not the least of which is the ability of people to work remotely and – which has been a real strength of the company. Just every aspect of our business, from audit right through to account opening, has been functioning very, very well in a totally remote environment, and we expect opportunities to come out of that. I think one of them clearly, is the ability to get more geographic spread out of our individual branch locations. Clearly, 20 branches is not a lot to have in the New York metropolitan area. But I also think that the number of branches that we want to have over the time – over the next five years or so is down considerably from what we ordinarily would have needed to provide the maximum amount of outreach to customers just because we have this additional capability. So, I think there’s more to come on that, and – but I’m very optimistic that we’ve really made a significant change in our capabilities. We brought in some of the best technology that we could find from MANTL, for example, Q2 and Synechron that is really, really helping us to build out our business. We expect to have an online escrow system towards the end of the year. So, there’s a lot of additional enhancements that we’re making in our product offerings to customers.

Collyn Gilbert

Analyst · KBW. Please go ahead.

Okay, okay. That’s helpful. And then shifting to the NIM. So John, you had pointed out, obviously, that part of the noninterest-bearing deposit increase this quarter was related to the PPP loans. Do you have a sense of how those deposits or how you’re thinking those deposits are going to trend from here in terms of the borrowers within the PPP program, their desire to use those funds?

John Buran

Analyst · KBW. Please go ahead.

Most of the PPP we did was to customers. So I think whatever we did to noncustomers could probably – we could probably see that move out over time. But given that most of our PPP was to customers, I don’t know that a significant portion of our increase is coming from PPP. I think it’s a factor, but I think a lot of what we’re seeing is customers’ desire to have more liquidity available to them. And I don’t see that changing at least in the near future – well into 2021 until there’s some changes in the economic environment.

Collyn Gilbert

Analyst · KBW. Please go ahead.

Okay, okay. Got it. And then in terms of credit and if we think about just the reserve build that came on this quarter and looking at Slide 12, I guess two questions there. One is, Susan, you mentioned the Oxford economic forecast. Can you just give us what some of the assumptions you all made within that – to get to that $8.6 million of reserve build related to COVID?

Susan Cullen

Analyst · KBW. Please go ahead.

The Oxford economic model had an unemployment rate of 11% and GDP contracting about 3.7% going forward. So, we did adjust some of the qualitative markers given that unemployment was actually higher than 11%, at 6.30% to build the reserve to what we recorded.

Collyn Gilbert

Analyst · KBW. Please go ahead.

Okay. And how about – is there a recovery assumption within their economic forecast, too?

Susan Cullen

Analyst · KBW. Please go ahead.

The recovery – it’s three quarters. So we would revert back to our historical losses norms over three quarters.

Collyn Gilbert

Analyst · KBW. Please go ahead.

Okay. So that – so the beginning of next year, first quarter of next year, you’re assuming. Okay. Okay. Got it. And then – so great color on sort of how the forbearance loans are behaving and the tranche that’s now starting to pay again. Just curious how you’re categorizing, I guess, what was it, maybe like $92 million or so that’s not paying currently. Where that’s showing up and how you’re sort of thinking about that grouping of loans?

John Buran

Analyst · KBW. Please go ahead.

Let me just give you some commentary on the loans that you referenced the $92 million. All of the loans that we put on a forbearance plan are making payments. They may not be making the full payment per the contractual arrangement. And in the event that an account may have been extended, they continue to make the agreed-upon payments.

Collyn Gilbert

Analyst · KBW. Please go ahead.

Okay. Okay, got it. Got it, okay. Okay. And then lastly, just as it relates to Empire, I respect your commentary on that you’re not going to comment on it, I guess. But I’m just curious as to why perhaps you’re not commenting on the merger?

John Buran

Analyst · KBW. Please go ahead.

There’s no material change to comment on at this point in time.

Collyn Gilbert

Analyst · KBW. Please go ahead.

Okay. And then just I guess, a factual question. And hopefully, you can answer it as it relates to the merger. The merger agreement, am I correct in that it expires on July 31?

John Buran

Analyst · KBW. Please go ahead.

It – yes, sunsets on July 31, but one of us has to affirmatively make a decision to stop the discussion, let’s say. So it’s kind of two steps, it expires, yes, but either Empire or ourselves has to make an affirmative declaration that is not going to go forward, if that’s the case.

Collyn Gilbert

Analyst · KBW. Please go ahead.

Okay, okay. Great. I will – I’ll leave it there. Thank you.

Susan Cullen

Analyst · KBW. Please go ahead.

Thank you.

John Buran

Analyst · KBW. Please go ahead.

Thank you, Collyn.

Operator

Operator

This concludes our question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to John Buran for any closing remarks.

John Buran

Analyst

Thank you. And thank you all for participating in our conference. Once again, we’re very, very pleased with the quarter. We think we’ve got some very strong margin trends coming up. And obviously, we’ve taken a very comprehensive stance in dealing with our forbearances going forward. Once again, I’d just like to thank our employees for doing a really outstanding job in managing through this crisis. And they clearly are the greatest strength of this company. They came through with us in the Great Recession, and I think they will come through for us as we go through this pandemic and the economic environment. So thank you all again. And stay safe.

Susan Cullen

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

This concludes today’s teleconference. You may now disconnect your lines, and we thank you for your participation.