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First Citizens BancShares, Inc. (FCNCA)

Q4 2017 Earnings Call· Tue, Jan 30, 2018

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Operator

Operator

Good morning, and welcome to CIT’s Fourth Quarter 2017 Earnings Conference Call. My name is Keith and I will be your operator today. At this time, all participants are in listen-only mode. There will be an opportunity to ask questions at the end of the call. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this call is being recorded. I’d now like to turn the call over to Barbara Callahan, Head of Investor Relations. Please proceed, ma’am.

Barbara Callahan

Analyst

Thank you, Keith. Good morning, and welcome to CIT’s fourth quarter 2017 earnings conference call. Our call today will be hosted by Ellen Alemany, Chairwoman and CEO; and John Fawcett, our CFO. After Ellen and John’s prepared remarks, we will have a question-and-answer session. Also, joining us for the Q&A discussion is our Chief Risk Officer, Rob Rowe. As a courtesy to others on the call, we ask that you limit yourself to one question and one follow-up and then return to the call queue, if you have additional questions. We will do our best to answer as many questions as possible in the time we have this morning. Elements of this call are forward-looking in nature and may involve risks, uncertainties and contingencies that may cause actual results to differ materially from those anticipated. Any forward-looking statements relate only to the time and date of this call. We disclaim any duty to update these statements based on new information, future events or otherwise. For information about risk factors relating to the business, please refer to our 2016 Form 10-K. Any references to non-GAAP financial measures are meant to provide meaningful insights and are reconciled with GAAP in our press release. Also, as part of the call this morning, we will be referencing a presentation that is available on the Investor Relations section of our website at www.cit.com. Now, I’ll turn the call over to Ellen Alemany.

Ellen Alemany

Analyst · Credit Suisse

Thank you, Barbara. Welcome and thank you for joining the call. 2017 was a significant year for CIT. We achieved a number of milestones on our plan and ended the year as the simpler and stronger company that is well-positioned to advance our growth strategy. Let me touch on a few highlights from the year. We sold or reached agreement to sell more than $12 billion in assets that were not strategic to the go forward business model. We grew the average investment securities portfolio by 58%. We reduced operating expenses by about $85 million. We reduced unsecured debt by $6.9 billion. We repurchased $3.4 billion of common stock. We increased our level of deposits funding to 77%. We resolved a number of legacy mortgage issues. And we invested in our core business lines by adding additional teams of industry experts and expanding our reach in key markets. We ended the year with net income of $458 million or $2.80 per common share. Excluding noteworthy items, net income was $555 million or $3.38 per common share. In the fourth quarter, we saw strong originations across the commercial businesses with the highest level of new business volume in over eight quarters. Despite elevated levels of prepayments, we posted a 2% growth in core commercial loans and leases, which helped to drive strong operating performance in the quarter. This was overshadowed by $223 million of noteworthy items that included a goodwill impairment charge and a restructuring charge as we continued our transformation. As a result, we posted a net loss of $98 million in the quarter or $0.74 per common share. Excluding noteworthy items, however, we posted income from continuing operations of $130 million or $0.99 per common share, reflecting strong operating performance. With that, let me touch on some of the…

John Fawcett

Analyst · Credit Suisse

Thank you, Ellen, and good morning, everyone. Turning to our results on page four of the presentation. We posted a GAAP net loss for the quarter of $98 million or $0.74 per common share and loss from continuing operations of $93 million or $0.70 per common share. Operating performance was strong this quarter. The net loss was driven by goodwill impairment charge and we had a number of other noteworthy items that mostly offset. I will spend a moment to take you through the noteworthy items listed on page five of the presentation. We recognized an after-tax goodwill impairment charge of $222 million. This is a non-cash charge and had no impact on regulatory capital. The process for evaluating goodwill is very prescriptive. The impairment was primarily related to goodwill assigned to the equipment finance businesses within business capital and was a result of forecasted margin compression on new business due to a limited ability of fully pass-on interest rate increases to our higher yielding customers, a shift in volume to lower yielding, lower risk businesses that are not yet at scale and finally lower than expected end of lease activity. Other noteworthy items mostly offset and included a $20 after-tax restructuring charge, mostly reflecting severance cost associated with reductions in operations and corporate functions. We expect the payback period to be around 18 months and do not anticipate any additional material restructuring charges in 2018 relating to the existing cost savings initiatives. This quarter, we changed the accounting policy for our Low Income Housing Tax Credits or LIHTC from the equity method to the proportional amortization method. Our LIHTC investments have been relatively small and did not have a material impact on our past quarterly results. We recorded a cumulative earnings adjustment in the current quarter to reflect the…

Ellen Alemany

Analyst · Credit Suisse

Thanks, John. To wrap up, we feel good about the progress that was achieved over the past year. We have charted our course for the future and are focused on executing our plan. We remain committed to delivering shareholder value and we expect the return on tangible common equity to improve to 9.5% to 10% by the end of the year. As John mentioned, some of the improvement will come from benefits resulting from U.S. tax reform, but we also expect to more than offset headwinds from the reverse mortgage sale with continuous progress on our plan. We also know that the bar must continue to be raised and have updated our medium term target to 11% to 12% and expect to make further improvements towards this target in 2019. Our plan is centered on maximizing the potential of our core businesses, enhancing operational efficiency, reducing funding costs, optimizing the capital structure, and maintaining strong risk management. Now, let me turn it back to the operator for Q&A.

Operator

Operator

Yes. Thank you. We will now begin the question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] And the first question comes from Moshe Orenbuch with Credit Suisse.

Moshe Orenbuch

Analyst · Credit Suisse

I guess, I wanted to understand a little bit more in detail about the guidance. I mean, you talked about mid single digit loan growth but earning assets are flat, and that’s where the -- I guess, that’s where the margin is driven. And you’re kind of coming into with the benefit of the lower debt that you had in the fourth quarter, and you cited some of the headwinds. But it seems like a pretty significant decline as we kind of think about what you’re looking into 2018. And so, I don’t know, anything you can talk in terms of your efforts to kind of offset that or anything?

John Fawcett

Analyst · Credit Suisse

The reality is that we’re dealing with a lot of headwinds and I think we’re going to continue to see that through a lot of 2018. We talked about the sale of reverse mortgage portfolio, the LCM legacy consumer mortgage portfolio continues to run off, purchase accounting accretion, negative yield adjustment on the indemnification asset has been proved to be a drag and then of course you’ve got the sale of NACCO. And then, offsetting that is the business growth. And so, I think in terms of the business growth, a lot of that is going to be driven by terms and conditions, and the amount of prepayments that we see. I think, if you looked at the difference between the third quarter and the fourth quarter, prepayments moderated a bit. And so we are hopeful that going into 2018, that trend continues a little bit. I think, beyond that, in terms of the core nature of the business, we’re starting to see some meaningful growth in the businesses. And I think as Ellen mentioned and I said in my call script, we’ve actually seen growth in the fourth quarter, which is a distinct difference from the second and third quarter. So, we will see. I think one quarter, the fourth quarter does not make the trend, but we’ve seen a lot of investments start to bear fruit.

Ellen Alemany

Analyst · Credit Suisse

Yes. I just want to comment on the asset growth. So, as John mentioned that we had a very strong quarter for originations in the fourth quarter. And we believe that this is our first step really in solid asset growth over the next couple of years. The third quarter 2017 in commercial was an inflection point for asset levels and we have a solid pipeline heading into 2018, the new aviation vertical is working out well, we did the CIT Northbridge joint venture which really allows us to capture on some of the economics of deals in the ABL space that go into the non-bank space. Real estate, going into the year with the strong pipeline, we’re focusing pretty much on the North East and Southern California and also some other major MSAs, like Chicago, Dallas, Huston, Portland. Rail, there is still significant capacity out there, probably -- we think the asset growth will be offset by depreciation and some asset sales of portfolio management. And business capital, we started 2018 with a robust backlog and we’ve now grown for four consecutive months. We have added new business development officers in industrial and franchise. We’re transitioning the business to more of the direct model and we’re cross selling direct capital into the retail bank network. So, we have really good business momentum going into the year.

Moshe Orenbuch

Analyst · Credit Suisse

Just as a follow-up, the comment that you had made about -- that may take longer to kind of reach target capital ratios, is that a function of an expectation for the CCAR risk in the 2018 cycle or is it a function of something else, can you elaborate on that?

John Fawcett

Analyst · Credit Suisse

Yes. I think it’s a reflection of reality. I think, we certainly didn’t expect to be a 14.4%. I think there is a lot of moving pieces associated with that. If you go back to the very beginning of actually this year, I think, our CCAR risk was actually quite modest. I think, we underperformed in terms of growing the balance sheet. I think, in terms of all of the actions associated with the air transaction, we had better execution on the debt tender, better execution on the preferred, lower RWAs again into challenged originations. And again, it was a very modest task because this was CIT’s first time through the CCAR process. So, we’re at call it 14.5%. This will be our second time through the CCAR process. I think if we got down from 14.5% to 11.5% that would be a herculean effort. And as I said, we’re working with our regulators within the confines of the frame work that’s provided for us.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And the next question comes from Mark DeVries with Barclays.

Mark DeVries

Analyst · Barclays

I think your guidance that you expect to close NACCO in the back half of this year, implies you do expect that to ultimately get approved by the regulators. Could you just talk about kind of what the issues are and what your confidence is that it can get approved to terms that are acceptable to the buyer?

John Fawcett

Analyst · Barclays

Yes, sure. It has to do with I guess antitrust issues in -- right now in Germany. And so, we’re working aggressively with the buyer. We filed an 8-K, they filed -- VTG’s filed the equivalent of their 8-K within the last week and provided some insights on that. As I say, we’re continuing to try and support the transaction. We have every expectation that it will close. It is taking longer than we ever anticipated. I think, our first guidance was in the fourth quarter of 2017 and we moved to the first quarter and now as VTG gets deeper and deeper into the negotiations with the Federal Cartel Office in Germany, they have to work through what the remedies are. But, we remain committed to the transaction, they remain committed to the transaction, and it’s just a regulatory process that has to be worked through.

Mark DeVries

Analyst · Barclays

And could you comment on what if any impact tax reform has had on the -- cumulative impact to your potentially selling rail and whether that has any kind of impact on your interest and doing out that at some point in the future?

John Fawcett

Analyst · Barclays

We have no interest in doing that. And the tax reform had -- didn’t provide any incremental impetus to do it. So, it’s not a consideration at all.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And the last question comes from Ken Zerbe with Morgan Stanley.

Ken Zerbe

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

Just going back to the ROTCE target, the 9.5% to 10%. Presumably, when you first issued that target, it is before we were seriously discussing tax reform, and tax reform obviously drove -- or potentially drives a fair increase in ROTCE, like how has your thinking changed? Because, if you haven’t changed your ROTCE target, yes, we get tax reform, like how you’re now thinking about hitting that number sort of between tax reform and capital return and other items?

John Fawcett

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

I guess, Ken, the way I think about it is, is that we did change the target. And so, in the third quarter, we walked back off of the 10% return on tangible common equity in the fourth quarter of 2018, promised to come back with guidance, in the interim tax reform happened, and that creates the 100 to 125 basis points of improvement. And so, you would look at that and you would say, well, gee, shouldn’t you necessarily be higher. And I think that would be true, if you didn’t consider the runoff of the legacy consumer mortgage portfolio, the sale of NACCO, 70 to 80 basis points that comes out of the sale of our G3 or the reverse mortgage portfolio. So, all of those factors weigh and it’s not exactly a push. But if you factor those things in, they kind of almost net out the effect of a tax reform benefit that we’re actually seeing. I hope that helps.

Ken Zerbe

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

Got it. Because none of those items were in your 10% target either?

John Fawcett

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

Correct.

Ken Zerbe

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

Okay. Got you. And then, just a follow-up question, thanks for all the guidance for 2018. Can you just address the potential, sort of a good run rate through fee income line? I understand there is a lot of gains in there, but just looking for something little more core.

John Fawcett

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

Yes. I think relative to other banks, as you probably well recognized, we’re very underweight [ph] fees. I think, it basically attains to what I said on the call script in terms of what we’re doing. I think, in the rail business, I think we will continue to be opportunistic in terms of parsing in that portfolio. And I think that George and his team and now Jeff and his team, have been expert of that. So, we expect that as rates rise, you might expect that there will be less opportunity in the investment securities portfolio. I think that’s offset by obviously the LIHTC drag actually being moved out of noninterest income and into the tax provision line that provides a lift. And then, of course, we will have a full year of BOLI income which is about 6 $million a quarter. So, those are kind of the puts and the takes. And then, the other wild card is capital markets activity as it’s tied to the level of commercial originations. And so, as commercial originations go, so goes capital markets.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And the next question comes from Arren Cyganovich with Citi.

Arren Cyganovich

Analyst · Citi

You had mentioned that you don’t have a specific outlook on deposit betas but you expect them to rise. Can you give us a little bit more color in terms of maybe the breakdown of expectations around online versus branch within your system?

John Fawcett

Analyst · Citi

So, obviously, we do have an outlook on it. I think, like most banks, historical betas have been wildly under what it’s been modeled. I think at this point what we’re modeling in terms of non-maturity deposits for a 100 basis-point move over the course of the year is probably between 40% and 50%; I think across the entire cycle, it’s probably 65% to 75%, in that area.

Arren Cyganovich

Analyst · Citi

Okay, thank you. That’s helpful. And in terms of the rail business, obviously the oil price increase has been beneficial. Are you seeing any increase in demand for those assets that support that business and any change in terms of your price outlook as the pressure has been hitting that -- tank cars and sand cars.

Rob Rowe

Analyst · Citi

So, Arren, it’s Rob. We still had to, upon renewal, we’re still moving rail cars out of the Bakken to other regions of the country, to other types of energy use, whether it’s ethanol or refined products. And we actually believe that for 2018, we will continue to have to do that. The reason for that is there is still fair amount of pipeline take away coming out of the Bakken that’s underutilized. And so that has to get build up first because that’s lower cost service than rail service. So, we do think that the pressure that we have seen on yields will continue throughout 2018 because of that. But, as you note, the oil price is picking up overall and production has picked up; that has helped stabilize the lease rates at a relatively low level though.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And the next question comes from Owen Lau with Oppenheimer and Company.

Owen Lau

Analyst · Oppenheimer and Company

I just have a quick one about the tax rate. Try to reconcile with other banks, some other regional banks, say they -- the effective tax rate exceeds above 19%, 20%, and you’re guiding to 25%, to 26%. And I believe you also put some money into CDFI, so you get some new markets tax credit as well. Just trying to reconcile why your tax rate is higher than other regional banks?

John Fawcett

Analyst · Oppenheimer and Company

So, you start with the 21% and then you’re left with the impact of the state taxes, which is largely driven by where people sit, where your property is and then where your business originations and loan and leasing operations are conducted. And so, when you look at that for us, three states are California, New York, New Jersey, which is not especially helpful. I think the other element is that when you compare us to other regional banks, in terms of tax advantaged assets and we’re working towards this obviously, we’re light LIHTC, we’re light BOLI and have just instituted BOLI and we have no municipal tax advantage income to speak of. So, when you factor all of those things in, you wind up where we are between 25% and 26%, before any discreet items.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And the next question comes from Don Fandetti with Wells Fargo.

Don Fandetti

Analyst · Wells Fargo

Ellen, it sounds like there’s still no interest to sell the rail business. The core business continues to face some challenging issues. I was curious how you sort of balance, like a more strategic move such as the sale of the company versus continuing to move forward?

Ellen Alemany

Analyst · Wells Fargo

Sure. We think we’re making very good progress against the strategic plan that we laid out a couple of years ago. We’ve executed on everything that we’ve committed to our shareholders and investors and vastly I think we’ve executed better than most people had anticipated. I would say, kind of the two items in terms of not -- that we originally set out in third quarter of last year, was the sale of the reverse mortgage portfolio that we would lose 60 to 70 basis points there. But, we thought it was a really important to step, derisking the company going forward and exiting the Financial Freedom business and then the capital is subject to the regulators. With the change in the tax law et cetera, we feel recommitted to this, getting to this target by the end of 2018, the 9.5% to 10% range. We feel, in terms of reaching our medium term ROTCE target, we feel that we have really good revenue initiatives in all aspects of our business lines. We’ve ridden out the rail cycle this long, and we do see some light at the end of the tunnel there. With OpEx reduction, I mean, we started out on the OpEx reduction at a $1.2 billion. We’ve made great progress against it. We think we’re going to get to the full $150 million out by the year end, and we also think that there’s opportunities beyond that to continue reducing our expenses. And we think there’s still opportunity on the funding costs. We think there’s further opportunities to reduce our rates on the remaining $3.7 billion in unsecured debt. And so, we feel pretty optimistic about making our medium targets and making continued progress at the Company.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And the next question comes from Vincent Caintic Stephens.

Vincent Caintic

Analyst

First question on the CET1 guidance for 2018. First, why is your target, 11.5% to 12%, kind how do you get to that range? And then, just kind of if you can help us gain comfort in that? I think, most of the investor questions I get is on getting to 2% reduction and your CET1 is being aggressive. So, any commentary or comfort you can give on that? And is it simply a matter of waiting for CCAR or are there other interim actions you can take to lower the CET1? Thanks.

John Fawcett

Analyst · Credit Suisse

So, I’m not going to comment on the interim actions. I will say, we’re operating within the regulatory framework that the government’s provided us. I will go back to what I said before, which is when your starting point is -- and I’m rounding 14.5%, getting 300 basis points out, then 11.5% to me feels quite herculean. I know it’s not what investors want but we’re trying to do this as quickly and as prudently and as expeditiously as we possibly can within a very prescriptive framework and it’s not a snap-your-finger exercise. It’s working the process. And this Company’s been through CCAR exactly one time and we will be through it the second time in the spring. And we’re in the same place that every other CCAR bank was when they did it the second time. Maybe we’re a little bit further ahead actually because we’ve got all lessons learned and a lot of the consultants are probably less busy. So, they are helping us. But, we’re spending and investing in all of the infrastructure necessary to support a robust CCAR capital planning process.

Vincent Caintic

Analyst

Okay, got it. Thank you. And shifting gears a bit, if you could talk about the deal pipeline backlog and maybe the mix, just wondering if there is any positive impact from tax reform, as maybe some folks spending more on capital expenditures?

Ellen Alemany

Analyst · Credit Suisse

Yes. I mean, just in terms of tax reform, our expectation is that tax reform will be positive for our lending and our leasing customers, and that this boost in economic activity should increase demand for financing, particularly in capital-intensive businesses. So, I mean, I think the one word of caution is the potential for price pressure in the marketplace. I mean, we have a few anecdotal situations, but we also believe that markets are already competitive and we really see this on the wide spread basis. I do want to say, as I mentioned before, that we’re going into the year with probably the best pipelines we’ve seen in business capital and our commercial banking businesses.

Operator

Operator

And as there are no more questions at the present time, we would like to return the call to management for any closing comments.

Barbara Callahan

Analyst

Thank you, everyone, for joining the call this morning. If you have any follow-up questions, please feel free to contact me or any member of the Investor Relations team. You can find our contact information along with other information on CIT in the Investor Relations section of our website at www.cit.com. Thank you, again, for your time this morning, and have a great day.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. That concludes today’s call. Thank you for participating.