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Q1 2012 Earnings Call· Tue, May 8, 2012

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Operator

Operator

This is the Chorus Call operator. Welcome to the Entravision Communications Corporation First Quarter 2012 Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] For your information, this conference is being recorded. I would like to turn the conference over to Walter Ulloa, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer. Mr. Ulloa, please begin.

Walter Ulloa

Analyst

Thank you, Andrew. Good afternoon, everyone, and welcome to Entravision's first quarter 2012 earnings conference call. Joining me today is Philip Wilkinson, our President and Chief Operating Officer; and Chris Young, our Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. Before we begin, I must inform you that this conference call will contain forward-looking statements that are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ. Please refer to our SEC filings for a list of risks and uncertainties that could impact actual results. This call is a property of Entravision Communications Corporation. Any redistribution, retransmission or rebroadcast of this call in any form without express written consent of Entravision Communications Corporation is strictly prohibited. Also, this call will include certain non-GAAP financial measures. The company has provided a reconciliation of these non-GAAP financial measures to their most directly comparable GAAP measures in today's press release. The press release is available on the company's website and was filed with the SEC in a Form 8-K. During the first quarter, we continued to execute our strategic plan and generated improved year-over-year results. Our core advertising revenues grew 4% during the quarter despite the challenges presented by the mixed economic environment and the ongoing stabilization of the U.S. advertising market. Our core radio and television stations remained strongly positioned with the most densely populated U.S. Hispanic markets and we continue to successfully expand our online and digital capabilities and reach. Turning to our financial results for the quarter. Our consolidated revenue was $46.5 million, up 6% versus the same period in 2011. Excluding incremental political revenue from last year, first quarter revenue remained plus 6% as we generated a very small amount of political revenue in the quarter. Operating expenses increased 3% to $31 million in the quarter. Consolidated EBITDA…

Christopher Young

Analyst

Thank you, Walter, and good afternoon, everyone. As Walter has discussed, net revenue for the quarter was $46.5 million, up 6%. Operating expenses increased 3% to $31.0 million and consolidated adjusted EBITDA increased 12% to $11.6 million. Net revenue for the quarter was up 6% to $46.5 million compared to $44 million in the same quarter of last year. Television net revenue was up 8% to $33.2 million for the quarter compared to $30.7 million in the same quarter of last year. Radio net revenue was flat at $13.4 million for the quarter. The increase in our television segment was primarily attributable to an increase in local advertising and an increase in retransmission consent revenue. Excluding retransmission consent revenue and political revenue, core TV advertising revenue was up to 6% for the quarter. Retrans revenue for the quarter was $5 million compared to $4.2 million in the same quarter of last year. Retransmission consent revenue for the year 2012 will be approximately $20 million. Operating expenses for the quarter were $31.0 million, up 3%. Excluding noncash compensation expense, operating expenses for the quarter were $30.9 million, up 3%. The increase was primarily attributable to variable expenses relating to the increase in net revenue. Corporate expenses for the quarter were up 4% to $3.9 million compared to $3.7 million in the same quarter of last year. The increase was primarily attributable to the increase in interactive media-related expenses and salary expense. Free cash flow which we defined as consolidated adjusted EBITDA, less CapEx, less cash interest and cash taxes and dividend payments plus interest income for the quarter was $1.4 million or $0.02 per share. Cash, interest expense for the quarter was $8.5 million. Cash, CapEx for quarter was $1.2 million. Turning to our balance sheet, as of March 31, 2012,…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] The first question comes from James Dix of Wedbush.

James Dix

Analyst

Just a couple of things. Anymore color you can give on what your core pacings look like for TV and radio in the second quarter apart from the -- what you talked about for political? And then I had 2 follow-ups relating to TV.

Christopher Young

Analyst

Hey, James. What we do with respect to forward-looking comments, we talked about the month that is closed and the revenue that's on the books and for this case, that's April. But for television on a quarter basis, we're pacing plus mid-single digits for TV. We're pacing a negative mid-single digits for radio for the same month. Political moves the needle, probably about 1 percentage point either way. I think to add to that though, that April since we've closed the books on April, we've started to see late in April a picked-up in business. So we're hopeful that that's a low point that we're building off of once the quarter is done [ph].

Walter Ulloa

Analyst

And James, this is Walter. Particularly in the radio, as Chris pointed out, in April, TV was up mid-single digits and continues strong into May. Radio, on the other hand, was soft and lagging but in the last couple of weeks of April, particularly last week, we saw a momentum building in April. In radio, we've seen significant -- we've made significant gains in pace over the last couple of weeks. In that business.

James Dix

Analyst

All right. Okay, great. That's very helpful. And then, I guess on TV. I guess, Phil, if I want to make sure I get one last shot at you while you're still not a consultant. I guess, for -- when you look at your TV revenue in your markets, which markets have recovered from the recession and gotten close to or past their kind of their pre-recession peaks and which have recovered least, and do you think you have any insight as to what accounts for those differences?

Philip Wilkinson

Analyst

Well, and thanks, James. I appreciate that you gave [ph] me an opportunity. The -- I think we'd mentioned last quarter around when we finished Q4, we had our announcement that the Mountain states had really picked up. We were very, very pleased to see the Denver, the Vegas, the Colorado Springs, the Albuquerques that we operate had turned the corner. We had tough time over the last couple of years in the mountain states. Improve the East Coast continues to do fairly well. Taxes is stable. We have seen -- we had difficulty in Southern California, although Palm Springs just finished its Southern Miller Kaplan in there. We finished almost 28% up over the prior year first quarter and the market finished 8.7%. So I would say at a 4x, 3x, beat in the industry, at least the television [Audio Gap] that's a positive sign for Southern California. A little bit of struggle still in San Diego. The El Pasos of the world, 2x in the market, we've finished up 15.7% and the market was up 7.7%, all TV. So and on the margin side, we're seeing growth in 10, 11 of the top 15 TV markets. Again, Vegas, Denver, El Paso and Albuquerque. So I think we've turned the corner and the economy's definitely improving, baby steps. And it seems to be widespread across the country. We still would like to see a little bit -- better growth there in Southern California.

James Dix

Analyst

Okay, great. And then, one last one. Just on political. Do you think you're going to see much impact from Super PAC money coming in and that money not being subject to the same lowest unit rate rules or are you not really looking for much of your mix in political spending to be from Super PACs and that will be fairly traditional mix versus what you've seen in prior election years?

Walter Ulloa

Analyst

It's Walter. Quick comment on that, on that question. I'm sure Philip has some information to follow-up with. But we started out with as I said earlier in my remarks, with a very soft political start. And we compare this political cycle with 2008. That's how we look at it. So when we see how we did in the first quarter with political, it's much less than first quarter 2008. And that's why we're still pleased with the strength that we showed in our other categories in the quarter. But in the second quarter, which we thought would be the softest quarter of the year in political, we're actually seeing some strength and I talked about Obama for America, that campaign, that's on the air and it's in 4 of our markets and doing very well. We expect that to continue. As far as the Super PAC commitment to our market, we expect to see some of that. We did $8 million in total political revenue in 2008, and we said before the year started, we thought we'd do close to $10 million with the slow start, we've got a lot of ground to make up. But we like what we're seeing right now. We think that the majority of our political revenue will come in the second half of the year. And what we've seen and certainly throughout the country, with the entry in political PACs in -- or Super PACs into the advertising mix with no limits basically, we think a lot of that will certainly be vested in the Latino markets or Latino states or states like Colorado and Nevada, New Mexico and Florida, where there are large Latino populations.

Philip Wilkinson

Analyst

Yes, I agree. I think really, James, though, as Walter mentioned, we're going to see a lot more activity in the August, September, October, and generally, we typically do in Spanish-language television, media vis-à-vis the general versus the primary. So we expect -- having said that, which will include PACs in August, September and October and that one week of November.

Operator

Operator

Next question comes from Michael Kupinski of Noble Financial.

Michael Kupinski

Analyst

Am I correct that the Obama campaign is largely targeting radio right now rather than television or is it across both TV and radio platforms at this point?

Walter Ulloa

Analyst

We're seeing it across TV and radio. And their commitment to both media is pretty strong.

Michael Kupinski

Analyst

Okay. And you indicated that the political is coming in a little bit better than what you were budgeting for in the second quarter?

Walter Ulloa

Analyst

In the second quarter right. In the first quarter we underdelivered in that category.

Michael Kupinski

Analyst

Right. And so if I were to assume like $1 million in television political, do you think that that's on target or you think that might be a little bit light?

Walter Ulloa

Analyst

For Q1?

Michael Kupinski

Analyst

For Q2.

Walter Ulloa

Analyst

For Q2.

Christopher Young

Analyst

For Q2. That may be a little bit on the high side, Michael.

Michael Kupinski

Analyst

Okay. All right. And then in radio maybe like $225,000 or so?

Walter Ulloa

Analyst

What's that?

Michael Kupinski

Analyst

In radio maybe $225,000 or so?

Walter Ulloa

Analyst

It's possible. That's possible.

Michael Kupinski

Analyst

And then -- and if we looked at the auto category, you're growing faster than the English-language peers and I know that you provided the breakout between the tiers but what is auto as a percent of total television at this point and a percent of total radio rate at this time?

Christopher Young

Analyst

I think auto was about 22% of the quarter. It's 22% of our total revenue in radio, automotive represents 14% of our total revenue. Overall, just under 20% -- call it 20% rounded of our total revenue, 1/5 of our total revenue.

Michael Kupinski

Analyst

Okay. And so, auto as a category for television for you at least, you still have some room to grow kind of thing, especially if your English-language peers are kind of in the 25%-plus range at this time right?

Christopher Young

Analyst

Right. We were always -- we got the second wave of the recovery dollars with respect to auto, and English language folks could shot up to 25% back in 2010 and we've been grinding slowly but surely back up towards that level and we think that 25% level is achievable.

Michael Kupinski

Analyst

What was the high for you guys going back ways? What would be the high?

Christopher Young

Analyst

I think back in 2006, we were close to 20%, 26%, 25%?

Walter Ulloa

Analyst

25%, 26% of total revenue.

Michael Kupinski

Analyst

Okay. And if we go back to the telecom category, I know that, that was the -- a weak category for you guys last year. Can you give me some thoughts on the telecom category, are you seeing any traction there, or what's happening in that particular category?

Christopher Young

Analyst

I think the good news is that the comps started getting easier beginning next quarter. Second quarter of last year is I think weak. We were hit with a 51% or 52% decline in telecom last year. So that's the good news. The hope is that we also had signs of folks like AT&T starting to come back into radio in Q2, that's a good sign. I hope that in the second half of the year, you'll start to see this thing flatten out. So it's tough to say that this is going to be a growth category for us again this coming year and I hope that, that growth will kind of return back in 2013.

Walter Ulloa

Analyst

And the feeling is that the softness in telecom for us at least will continue through the rest of the year and we expect to turn the corner in 2013.

Michael Kupinski

Analyst

Okay, fair enough. And then finally, your thoughts on the $20 million bond reduction versus a $40 million bond redemption. What are the criteria that would you like to see before committing to another redemption at this point?

Christopher Young

Analyst

Well, we take a look at where we are. And how much cash we have and how we feel about our performance to date and we'll call it like we see it as we roll through. So we've got the ability to do another $20 million before the end of July. We'll watch that as we continue down the road here and keep our options open on that front. Of course, we have another window that opens up for another $40 million beginning August 1. But we'll keep that in mind is we go. There's no real set of quantifiable criteria that we check off the boxes before we make a decision. It's something that we can't just kind of play through day by day.

Michael Kupinski

Analyst

I just thought it was curious whether or not you felt that you wanted to see some better visibility on the economy or revenue traction or anything like that in terms of -- before you make a commitment to repurchasing or redeeming more bond at this point.

Walter Ulloa

Analyst

I think that's a fair statement, Mike. We do want to see more visibility, a little more clarity here as we head into the second half of the year.

Michael Kupinski

Analyst

Okay. But at this point, that the prospects are still there for you to do another redemption if -- this year. I mean that's still on the table?

Walter Ulloa

Analyst

It's possible, yes.

Christopher Young

Analyst

And I think doing the first $20 million, making that announcement, was a vote of confidence of what we're seeing thus far. So, it's kind of half glass -- half-empty or half-full however, you want to see it but we think it's a positive step.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from Anil Gupta of Imperial Capital.

Anil Gupta

Analyst

Just one quick one kind of building on the last one about the cash balance and where you see a prudent use of that money. Could talk a little about the M&A outlook and kind of what you're seeing in the market in terms of either stations you've looked at before that are either on the market or valuations you're seeing out there but -- can you just kind of give us an idea as to what you're seeing and what you're kind of outlook is in terms of any acquisition opportunities that you're seeing right now?

Walter Ulloa

Analyst

Well, I think the market is starting to become a little more active with regards to acquisition. We get calls all the time, and we look at different things here and there. But there's nothing that we're spending any time on [Audio Gap] days. We certainly look for ways to strengthen our existing clusters, so we could do for example, some type of a joint sales agreement with an existing broadcaster and given our strong position in many of our markets, that would be -- that's certainly is something that we find to be accretive, use our existing infrastructure in one of our important markets and then, perhaps do a joint sales agreement with someone either TV or radio. But as far as going out and doing any acquisitions at this time, we have nothing to talk about.

Anil Gupta

Analyst

Okay, thanks. And then the second question, is I think earlier today there was an announcement between Disney and Univision about an English-speaking news network focused on Hispanic audiences. Any sort of commentary you could provide around what does that mean for Entravision? Do you see -- do you foresee any sort of increased competition or pricing pressure in the market or do you think this is kind of more a validity that this is a big market that the media world is focused on?

Walter Ulloa

Analyst

Well, we don't think this announcement has any impact on us. We believe that -- we've always been big believers in the notion that it's never been about the language when it comes to our business, it's always about the culture. And the language of culture is Spanish and that's how we deliver the best entertainment, news and information to our audience. So it's an interesting announcement and we wish them all the luck.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] The next question comes from Bishop Cheen of Wells Fargo.

Bishop Cheen

Analyst

All right, so just a couple of housekeeping things because I had some connectivity problems, I guess you would say. Pacings, I you said for radio you're starting to finally see some acceleration in late April. So -- but before you saw that, where were you, were you down, were you flat?

Walter Ulloa

Analyst

Well, we said we were down in April.

Christopher Young

Analyst

April, we finished out negative mid-single digits. But we -- already in late April an acceleration of that business so we don't think that's going to be indicative of where we'll end up.

Bishop Cheen

Analyst

Down negative mid-single digits, right?

Walter Ulloa

Analyst

Right. What was dragging us -- what was slowing us down with our radio businesses is national. Local was strong through the first quarter and was okay, in April but the national was soft. Now what's happened over the last couple of weeks, 2 or 3 weeks has been a huge change in our radio business. And national is firming up and building strength every week.

Bishop Cheen

Analyst

Right, we heard that from Cumulus yesterday on their call.[ph] Signs that national has is rebounding and awakening just in the last 2 weeks. Now TV, you were up mid-single digits, correct? Pacing up?

Christopher Young

Analyst

That's right. That's for April.

Bishop Cheen

Analyst

For April. And is that all in? Everything, political, whatever you got?

Christopher Young

Analyst

It's still mid-single digits core or with political. Just for April. The political is being -- it's going to be back end of the quarter heavy as far as the other pace is concerned. So we really have a needle-moving [ph] event as far as April was concerned for TV.

Bishop Cheen

Analyst

Okay. All right. And your Q was going to be filed when?

Christopher Young

Analyst

Two days. Tomorrow. Most likely tomorrow.

Bishop Cheen

Analyst

All right. Okay. And then, I just kind of stepping back a thousand feet, when I look at free cash flow, you're sort of all over the map for example in 2009, it was kind of 15% of EBITDA. But in 2010 political was 32% of EBITDA. 2011 because you had a lot of extra costs that you were looking to do is like 5% of EBITDA. So I'm trying to get a feel if this is a better year, you're going to reduce your debt, you're going to reduce your cost of capital. Any thoughts about free cash flow either as a percentage of EBITDA or hard number?

Christopher Young

Analyst

I definitely think that 2012 should be a significantly better year than 2011. I mean remember in '11 we also did a dividend, which gets back to the end of the free cash flow so... You should see considerable -- based on that alone, you should see considerable difference as you move ahead and I know it's tough to -- tough not to give you a number but to give you color beyond that. So it should be significantly improved.

Bishop Cheen

Analyst

I can do bigger than a bread box because you're right. If I back up the dividend, for '11, it gets closer to a teenage kind of 15% of EBITDA number in 2011.

Christopher Young

Analyst

Correct.

Bishop Cheen

Analyst

So is it closer to 15% or closer to 30%?

Christopher Young

Analyst

Well, if you just look at the -- if you look at that '11 number adjusting for the dividend number, I think the consensus out there has that number doubling. It's beyond our [indiscernible] possibility.

Bishop Cheen

Analyst

Okay. So that gets you into the 20-something percentage probably?

Christopher Young

Analyst

Right.

Bishop Cheen

Analyst

Okay, fair enough. And then political. So I know this is all heavily back end. It's going to be 6 weeks [indiscernible] in Q3 and Q4. But for Q1, political gross, I think that's gross number, just about a mil, $500,000 on TV, $500,000 on radio?

Walter Ulloa

Analyst

No. Our political total was $100,000. Just about $100,000 between TV and Radio.

Bishop Cheen

Analyst

Okay. Sorry. All right. Understood. All right. And again, Bonkies [ph] and we don't know but it was something like $8 million in 2008 with political?

Christopher Young

Analyst

Correct. $8.1 million in 2008.

Bishop Cheen

Analyst

Right. Could you remind us again what it was in 2010?

Christopher Young

Analyst

2010, it was $7.1 million.

Bishop Cheen

Analyst

Okay. And this is kind of a mood-ring question. How does it feel to you this year?

Walter Ulloa

Analyst

It feels -- like we said earlier, part of the reason that we underdelivered political in the first quarter was due to the fact that have a lot of media assets in Texas and the primary in Texas was moved to the second quarter. And that was I think the most impactful event in the quarter with regards to political. But now that, that primary has been moved to second quarter, and so there's still results of that to come to fruition. And then on top of that, we're seeing Obama for America advertising in 4 of our battleground states. And as we talk to people across the country, in New Mexico, for example, a number of races in New Mexico, we expect to see political dollars there. Florida for example, another important state. California is going to have some propositions that will generate a lot of activity. So we still remain pretty bullish about our political potential for the year.

Christopher Young

Analyst

Plus I think the primary season on the Republican side dragged on a little longer than we were thinking it would and has been talked about before the money doesn't start flowing our way on the political spend until we flip into general election mode. That took its own time to get through and I think that was somewhat of a disappointment.

Bishop Cheen

Analyst

All right. This all good. All right. Last one for me. [indiscernible] telecom I think we said something like it was down 42% in 2011, one of your worst categories?

Walter Ulloa

Analyst

That's correct.

Bishop Cheen

Analyst

And in Q1, did you quantify how much it was up?

Walter Ulloa

Analyst

It was down.

Bishop Cheen

Analyst

It was -- it continues to be down in Q1

Walter Ulloa

Analyst

Right, right. It was down. And it was down 42%.

Bishop Cheen

Analyst

That was Q1?

Walter Ulloa

Analyst

In television and in radio, it was down in the 30s I believe.

Christopher Young

Analyst

Down 20% in radio.

Walter Ulloa

Analyst

20% in radio.

Christopher Young

Analyst

We've got one more quarter.

Bishop Cheen

Analyst

Are you seeing any turnaround here?

Walter Ulloa

Analyst

The only turnaround we're seeing that Chris pointed out -- pointed to is the lower comps, which will come in the second, third and fourth quarter. But no, we don't see it bouncing back in any significant way in 2012.

Bishop Cheen

Analyst

But it's still your seventh-largest category?

Walter Ulloa

Analyst

Right. But that's pretty down. In radio it was #7. Then television, I can take a look at it quickly here but it wasn't much better than that. Television was 7 also.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from Aaron Watts of Deutsche Bank.

Aaron Watts

Analyst

Just one for me. I'm curious because you're in a kind of unique position where you've got a view on both radio, a little bit of digital and TV. So I'm curious as you talk to your advertisers on the local level when they're making decisions on where to spend their ad budgets. If you're seeing any pullback or shifting from radio to digital, from TV to digital, just curious about the movements there. And then if you have any insight on the national level and some of the shifts going on, if any, I'd be curious to hear your thoughts there too.

Walter Ulloa

Analyst

Well, I think if there's any softness with regard to the radio story, it's on the national front. The local actually feels pretty good for us. We are up 5% for the quarter and things continue to look good for second quarter on the local front. They are starting to firm up a bit for national but the real struggles been the national, the ebb and flow of the process. And it hurt us in Q1, national was down 12% against that plus 5% local. And we'll see where we end up for Q2. But really locally and things -- it's in part going hand-in-hand with how the economies, the local economies at the local level are doing. And locally, things feel good.

Aaron Watts

Analyst

And on the national side, you don't think it's any big shifting around of ad budgets, it's more just a low, temporary low?

Christopher Young

Analyst

Yes I think that's the way to put it. It feels more like a low than some kind of a secular seismic event that's better to balance from time to time.

Walter Ulloa

Analyst

If anything, we've seen more of an integration of digital with our broadcast media and therefore, the solutions that we offer integrated solutions, if anything, the digital is helping propel the broadcasting expenditure.

Operator

Operator

At this time, I would like to turn the conference back over to management for any closing remarks.

Walter Ulloa

Analyst

Thank you, Andrew. This concludes our first quarter 2012 earnings call. We look forward to speaking to all of you again in August when we will announce our second quarter results. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you for participating in the Entravision Communications Corporation conference call. This concludes today's events. You may now disconnect.