Mark Casale
Analyst · Bank of America
Sure. Thanks for the question. I would say it's been in process for a while. We have been studying ways to expand Essent Re. So think of it in here more as Essent Re expansion versus we're jumping in to a new line of business. When you take a look at Essent Re, it's a valuable asset. I mean, over the years, it's done the affiliate quota share, they've written a lot of really high-quality GSE risk share business. They have a nice MGA where we assist 10 other larger insurance companies to write GSE credit share risk. But because of -- when you combine all three of them, we're sitting there with a $1.7 billion balance sheet, single-A rated from A.M. Best, A(-) S&P. It's one of the larger reinsurance companies in Bermuda. And because of the changes over the past several years, one, just investment yields went up. There's a lot of asset leverage within P&C. On the MI side, we're generally 1:1. In P&C, it could be 2:1, in some cases, 3. So there's nice asset leverage. Clearly, that's a lot more valuable when yields go up. Second, S&P, a couple of years ago now changed their capital rules. So there's a lot more capital, I would say, efficiencies when writing P&C on top of MI kind of get that diversification benefit, right? And third, it's clearly not correlated to the consumer. Those, I would say, attributes probably 18 months ago is when we started to look at it. So we've been looking at various ways. And we thought Lloyd's a very efficient way for us to kind of step into the market. $50 million of FAL, it's Lloyd's itself is kind of a self-contained market, very, very capital efficient. The $50 million that we're putting in is actually sitting on S&R's balance sheet. So there's no additional capital required. I think that's important for folks to realize and it's really well diversified. So I would say 87% of the business roughly is insurance versus reinsurance. Our top 40-plus syndicates that we're backing, reinsuring and it's across generally well diversified across most lines, less we kind of made a conscious decision to be a little less weighted towards property cat, just because of the volatility there. And it's -- that's one where we still have more I would say, more work to do. We've hired a small team and they're very experienced in the P&C business, very technical. So they have actuarial backgrounds, which we like. We're very technical, right? We talk a lot about unit economics and balance sheet and all those sort of things. So they kind of fit our style and we'll continue to build that team out. It's not going to be very material. And so I don't want to play this up that we've entered into a new business. It's not transformational. It's very measured because that's how we like to do things. And as we learn over time, remember, One of the advantages we have at Essent because we're kind of a founder-operated company. We all own a lot of shares. We have a long-term view. And I was in London a few times last year, and I met most of the syndicates that were backing within the top 10. And I looked at them and said, do we want to invest with them because it's essentially what we're doing. I know we'll recognize it as premiums. But think of it also is kind of almost like a big watching line. So we'll certainly update you guys. But the leverage and we may, with that platform, we also have the opportunity to write whole account quota share with larger reinsurance companies, kind of like how we do it on the MI side and the relationships that we have, there may be a way for us to partner with some over time. Again, not really in the 2026 forecast. We'll see how it goes, but a pretty measured approach. But similar to title, which is still kind of in that incubation phase and starting to do -- we're starting to see some real good signs. They are just nice call options for our investors. So it's not -- it's not like we're going to buy back less shares. It's a way for us to learn the business, we'll continue to attract talent to the organization, both in the Bermuda and the U.S. And if there's a time -- and we realize where we are in the cycle. And we know it's entering into kind of -- it's getting a little softer in certain segments of the market, that's fine. You're never going to -- we're not trying to time the market. We look at this as an opportunity. Again, longer term, 5, 10 years is successful. It'll generate supplemental earnings for the company and help us. It's like another tool I have to grow book value per share.