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EPR Properties (EPR)

Q1 2018 Earnings Call· Tue, May 8, 2018

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Operator

Operator

Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Q1 2018 EPR Properties Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference call is being recorded. I would now like to turn the call over to your host, Mr. Brian Moriarty, Vice President of Corporate Communications.

Brian Moriarty

Analyst

Thank you, operator, and thanks to everyone for joining us today for our first quarter 2018 earnings call. I will start the call by informing you that this call may include forward-looking statements as defined in the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Identified by such words as "will be," "intend," "continue," "believe," "may," "expect," "hope," "anticipate," or other comparable terms. The Company’s actual financial condition and results of operations may vary materially from those contemplated by such forward-looking statements, discussion of these factors that could cause results to differ materially from these forward-looking statements are contained in the Company’s SEC filings including the Company’s reports on Form 10-K and 10-Q. Now, I’ll turn the call over to company President and CEO, Greg Silvers.

Greg Silvers

Analyst

Thank you, Brain. Hello everyone and welcome to our first quarter call. I’d like to start by reminding everyone that slides are available to follow along via our website at www.eprkc.com. With me on the call today is our CFO, Mark Peterson who will review the company’s financial summary.

Mark Peterson

Analyst

Good afternoon.

Greg Silvers

Analyst

Now, I’ll get started on today’s headlines before discussing the business in greater detail. First, strong quarter anchored by significant top-line revenue growth. We’re pleased to announce another quarter of record-setting results. As compared to the same quarter previous year, our top-line revenue grew by 20% and FFO as adjusted per share, grew by 6%. These results demonstrate the combination of consistency and growth inherent in our model, which benefits from our non-commodity focus. Second, executing our capital recycling strategy. We are making significant progress on our stated intention of recycling capital through our recent paydown of ski mortgage note with Och-Ziff Real Estate. Based on how we structure the note, this paydown and associated fees implies a cap rate of 6.8%. As we stated, we are increasingly focused on accretive capital recycling and this transaction demonstrates the quality and desirability of our assets in the private market. I’ll provide more color on this shortly. Third, increasing earnings guidance, reaffirming investment spending and disposition guidance. We are happy to announce that we’re increasing our earnings guidance while reaffirming our investment spending and disposition guidance. The increase in earnings is largely driven by the prepayment fee associated with the Och-Ziff mortgage paydown, and we are pleased that the economics of our deal structure will allow all parties to benefit. Fourth, debt management further strengthens balance sheet. Maintaining a strong balance sheet, which supports our business objectives is one of our core principles. As of the end of the quarter, we have no debt maturities until 2022 and subsequent to quarter-end, we successfully issued $400 million in senior unsecured notes. Our capital position continues to benefit from consistent execution of our financial strategy. Mark will provide more detail on this topic. Fifth, enhanced disclosure. We always tried to be transparent and provide…

Mark Peterson

Analyst

Thank you, Greg. And I’d like to remind everyone on the call that our Quarterly Investor Supplemental can be downloaded from our website. Now turning to the first slide. Net income for the first quarter was $23.5 million or $0.32 per share compared to $48 million or $0.75 per share in the prior year. FFO was $61 million compared to $73.9 million in the prior year. Lastly, FFO as adjusted for the quarter increased to $94 million versus $76.5 million in the prior year and was $1.26 per share versus $1.19 per share in the prior year, an increase of 6%. Before I walk through the key variances, I want to discuss one adjustment to FFO that come to FFO as adjusted. As previously announced, we completed the redemption of our 7.75% inaugural senior unsecured notes originally due in 2020 for the outstanding principal amount of $250 million plus a premium for the terms of the indenture of $28.6 million. The premium along with the $3.3 million write-off of noncash deferred financing costs are classified as costs associated with loan financing or payoff in our income statement and are added back to FFO to get to FFO as adjusted. Subsequent to quarter end, we were pleased to replace this debt with the new 10-year senior unsecured notes at a much lower interest rate. I’ll discuss this issuance later in my comments. Now, let me walk through the key line item variances for the quarter versus the prior year. Our total revenue increased 20% compared to the prior year to $155 million. Within the revenue category, rental revenue increased by $21.9 million versus the prior year to $128.9 million. This increase resulted primarily from rental revenue related to new investments, including those assets purchased in the CNL transaction in April of…

Greg Silvers

Analyst

Thanks, Mark. I want to make a final comment regarding our potential for growth in our existing segments. We’ve recently been on the road with existing and potential tenants and whether there product type is theater exhibition, live performance venues, amusement and water parks or recreation hospitality, the main theme of our discussions were the continued consumer enthusiasm for their experiential products. This demand translates in the opportunity for EPR and we expect this opportunities that to grow as more and more companies turn into this consumer preference. As a leading provider of real estate capital for entertainment and recreational assets, we are well positioned to ride this wave of opportunity as the consumer transformation continues to gain momentum. With that, why don’t I open it up for questions?

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Your first question comes from the line of Anthony Paolone from JPMorgan. Your line is open.

Anthony Paolone

Analyst

Thanks. Good afternoon. Just questions on CLA. Can you just walk through baked again what the processes to get beyond July like what do they need to do, just have to confirm like the creditor committee or just what are the [indiscernible] we should be looking out for?

Greg Silvers

Analyst

From our standpoint, Tony, we entered into this agreement to kind of not be so much subject to the bankrupt, the bankruptcy court has approved this agreement. So the leases, we will either get a restructuring or the leases will terminate and then we will pursue getting possession in state court. So by July 31, without our consent, they will no longer be part of the jurisdiction of the bankruptcy court.

Anthony Paolone

Analyst

So that gives you – so basically if you now and then, you guys have to figure it out with them?

Greg Silvers

Analyst

Yeah. Yes, that’s exactly correct.

Anthony Paolone

Analyst

Okay. And I guess – I think from your comment, you said that the income was down $2 million year-over-year in the first quarter and you had recognized $750,000 in March. So I guess, does that mean they were at $2.75 million that kind of used to be what they paid quarterly?

Greg Silvers

Analyst

That’s what we recognized in the first quarter of 2017. I will say $1.9 million was cash, $800,000 was straight-line. So that’s how you get to the $2.7 million from prior year.

Anthony Paolone

Analyst

Got it. Okay. And then I knew, let me just do to what you can price down Schlitterbahn, can you just talk about little bit about the collateral behind the loan you said, two parks in addition to the KC Park, do those parks have debt on it? Or could you just take those or how that’s…

Greg Silvers

Analyst

No. Those parks are – we are the only obligation with regard to those parks. So, they’re free and clear other than the obligation to EPR. And as I said historically, those parks have serviced the debt service related to our obligation. I have a sufficient EBITDA to service the debt service for our obligation. So, they’ve been very successful parks.

Anthony Paolone

Analyst

Okay. And where does – where’s that show up on the major tenant was that or is it not part of the major tenant list at this point?

Greg Silvers

Analyst

They’re outside the top 10 at this time.

Anthony Paolone

Analyst

Okay. Got it. And then just last question. You mentioned not growing for growth’s sake and just making sure that the appropriate investment returns are there. I think if these levels to start somewhere in the mid-to-high 7s in product cap rates, where do you think investment returns need to be if you would just get a little bit more motivated to do deals?

Greg Silvers

Analyst

Probably, in the mid-8s, an initial cash on cash yield with some growth that kind of gives us that kind of 100 basis point spread with growth from there, Tony.

Anthony Paolone

Analyst

Is that not easy to get at this point?

Greg Silvers

Analyst

It’s – we’re able to – uncertain deals that were either sourcing or – that we’re playing a bigger role other than capital. Like I said, there is a lot of products that’s probably available in the low-8s. So again, we’re getting close to that number. But again, we’re being probably very judicious with our capital and not reaching for those deals.

Anthony Paolone

Analyst

Okay. Got it.

Greg Silvers

Analyst

Thank you.

Mark Peterson

Analyst

Thanks.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Nick Joseph from Citi. Your line is open.

Nick Joseph

Analyst

Thanks. Just going back to Schlitterbahn, is there an indication that the next tranche of sales tax revenue bonds will either be delayed or not approved by the state or local government?

Greg Silvers

Analyst

Right now, we don’t have any additional information on that Nick, again, that’s those really work through our tenant. And so I think they continue to work to line up tenants to make those available for that. But we’ve had no indications either for or against the fact that those are going to be impacted.

Nick Joseph

Analyst

And when would the next approval typically be? When is it expected?

Greg Silvers

Analyst

There is no formal approval. You go to the – once you have your tenants, you go and you present your package and your sales tax – you present a package of sales tax revenue generation and the corresponding bond level on that and you get approval of that assessment from both of the local and the state officials. As far as our overall bonding capacity has already been established. Now you’re just bringing in individual projects and validating those against that original total.

Nick Joseph

Analyst

Thanks. You mentioned the opportunistic sales, mainly in recreation, is that more pricing related? Or is it exposure to any concepts or tenants? How do you think about being opportunistic there?

Greg Silvers

Analyst

Do you know, I think, we’re probably talking about. It’s not some opportunistic on raising capital, good cap rate opportunities where the private market is at a significant or willing to pay a significant premium revenue to what we are being valued at and our ability to recycle that capital relative to our existing public market cost of capital.

Nick Joseph

Analyst

Thanks.

Greg Silvers

Analyst

Thank you, Nick.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Your next question comes from the line of Mike O'Carroll from RBC Capital Markets.

Mike O'Carroll

Analyst

Yeah, thanks. Greg, can you give us a little bit more color on what’s going on with CLA right now at the entity level? What gives you confidence that they’re going to be able to stabilize these properties? Did they get a new equity provider? Or has that ownership group changed at all?

Greg Silvers

Analyst

As we indicated, I think Michael on our last call that there were actively – they were several groups that they were actively negotiating with regard to the operating entity. They continue – it’s our understanding that they’re continuing to make progress. We set this timeframe up both with ourselves and with those parties understanding that, that was a reasonable period of time for them to either get a restructuring done in place and we did not want to be a part of it in a long drawn out bankruptcy. So they continue to work through their issues with a new partner on the operation side. My understanding is that they’re making progress. We hope to be able to update you more on that like I said, by the end of the second quarter. I think it’s a good element that they continue to make their payments.

Mark Peterson

Analyst

I think that they’re making progress. So…

Mike O'Carroll

Analyst

And so what did they gain out of this transaction? I guess, first, going to the bankruptcy court and trying to figure it out there. I guess, does this extra time provide their ability to actually get agreement with you guys done?

Greg Silvers

Analyst

Well, again, for us, it gave them relief from contextually fighting motions on a periodic basis from us. Because as I said, as we talked about, we had turned our intention to be quite aggressive in the bankruptcy court to regain possession of our properties. The party that was looking at joining and investing into the operating company asked for time. We said we needed an agreement, where we were going to get paid something during the process and we had an immediate access to our properties within a defined period of time. That we were able to successfully put that in place. So, it removed some of the risk of the bankruptcy court of us being able to get our properties back if they are not successful. It gave us payments during the period of time and gave them a period of time to negotiate their deal. So in our situation, we felt it was a win all around for all the parties.

Mike O'Carroll

Analyst

Okay. So best-case scenario within the next several months, you guys could have an agreement work with them; worst-case scenario, you could get the properties back within August or September?

Greg Silvers

Analyst

Yeah. I mean, I think that’s reasonable. Because again, even though it comes out of the jurisdiction of the bankruptcy court, you then have to regain possession. So what we looked at it, Michael, we thought even if we were slugging it out in bankruptcy, the earliest that we would probably get out of that was the end of July anyway. So with this agreement, we don’t have to continually spend legal fees in that. We’ve got an agreement that’s approved by the court. So we know what our paths are. As Mark said, we’re very hopeful that this restructuring path will be one. They continue to pay indicating as you said they’re making progress, with that, and so, we’re hopeful that will be the path that it takes. But if not, we’re also and alternatively, as we’ve said before, shopping these with other operators, so that we can make them productive for us one way or the other.

Mike O'Carroll

Analyst

Okay, great. Thank you.

Greg Silvers

Analyst

Thank you.

Mark Peterson

Analyst

Thanks.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Craig Mailman from KeyBanc Capital Markets. Your line is open.

Laura Dickson

Analyst

Hey everyone. This is Laura Dickson here with Craig. Regarding the put option exercise by Endeavor Schools for the mortgage note agreement, it sounds like the revenue stream nets out. is that correct?

Mark Peterson

Analyst

Yeah. I think there is additional straight-line, I believe, but the cash payments are the same. It just switches geography.

Laura Dickson

Analyst

Okay. Great. And then, for the comments about CinemaCon and Disney’s commitment not materially changed the new run window, can you elaborate us that essentially like they won’t change the new run window or?

Greg Silvers

Analyst

Yeah. They said they’re committed to the existing theatrical exhibition window. So they opened the State of The Union address with that commitment as you can imagine very, very loud applause. And again, they also said that they felt that this issue is pretty much dead. So again, it was a nice opening to an issue that we felt was – that was the direction it would head – it was going to head, because we talked about there really isn’t not a demonstrable market for it.

Laura Dickson

Analyst

Great. Okay. And then following up on the opportunistic dispositions, how much of the disposition guidance do you expect that would be and kind of what cap rates do you think you could achieve?

Greg Silvers

Analyst

Again, what we’re seeing is, in the – actually, in the range that we have provided, we’ve said it’s really we’ve achieved the other assets and it’s going to be charter school kind of exercise or buy-out. And for opportunistic, again, I think we know where our cost of capital is. We kind of talked about kind of mid-7s. So, something that would be below that, that would be an effective recycling cost for us, Laura, because at that point, it’s not as we could issue equity to achieve that. So it would be below that number.

Laura Dickson

Analyst

Okay. And just one more from me. For the – just wanted an update on the CIO position and backfilling that position?

Greg Silvers

Analyst

Yeah, again, as we said, right now we intend to fill that, but we have very strong segment heads that run those businesses. We don’t feel that there is any immediate rush to do that. So that we can take our time and look at both internal and external candidates. So, we feel like we’ve got the needs of the organization addressed and we’re moving through that process, but as I said, there is no sense of urgency or emergency on that.

Laura Dickson

Analyst

Okay, great. Thank you.

Greg Silvers

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of John Massocca from Ladenburg Thalmann. Your line is open.

John Massocca

Analyst

Good evening everyone.

Greg Silvers

Analyst

Hello. Good evening.

John Massocca

Analyst

On their earnings call, AMC, they saw a positive $24 million impact in domestic adjusted EBITDA tied to reductions and rents related to lease modifications. Given that, have you seen any push from your theater tenants for rent reductions? Or is that kind of noise around upgrades?

Greg Silvers

Analyst

I think that has more to do probably in the Carmike – their acquisitions of some of those, what they call their classic. We haven’t – we’ve not been dealing with that, which like I said, I think they mentioned that they were – previously talked about that they were going to move more aggressively in some of the theaters associated with that Carmike acquisition.

John Massocca

Analyst

So, it’s not really tied to your theater properties?

Greg Silvers

Analyst

No, no.

John Massocca

Analyst

And then, kind of maybe, a little more theoretically, what do you think drove Och-Ziff to sell these properties, given the cost of prepaying the debt? And if it was – it was really strong potential return on what they got from Boeing, what was may be the reasoning behind you guys not holding on to the assets at the time of the purchase from CNL? Was it just Boeing wasn’t really on the radar then or was it something else with regard to that transaction?

Greg Silvers

Analyst

Again, John, what we talked about when we did that transaction was our commitment to maintain our exposure to ski at about 10%. So, actually holding that would have taken a significantly above that. So we knew they were good assets. But again, I don’t want to speak for Och-Ziff, but I’m assuming that Boeing as part of their acquisition, they actually paid our prepayment penalty as well as a return to Och-Ziff on this. So I think, what it really talks about is the growing’s recognition of the strength of the ski industry with what you’ve seen with what that was doing and what the KSL entity is doing, there is really a recognition of the value of those assets and they are trading at much high – at least to the operating sides are trading at much higher multiples. And so when Boeing made an offer to buy these assets back, so they were the tenants when they made the offer to buy those, you can see kind of again, when you talk about paying off the loan, paying off the prepayment paying a profit to Och-Ziff and still making sense for them to do, it really speaks to kind of the quality of the properties, how we underwrote it and the successful execution of that transaction.

John Massocca

Analyst

Understood. And then kind of a little bit housekeeping. Did I hear correctly that you incurred $250,000 in taxes related to CLA in 1Q? In what amount of time did that cover?

Mark Peterson

Analyst

$650,000 worth of expenses in property taxes, property taxes related to CLA.

John Massocca

Analyst

Okay, so $650,000. And what period of time was that over? Was that two months or the full quarter?

Mark Peterson

Analyst

Well, we think the annual carrying cost on an annual basis, is about $1.5 million. So it’s a little disproportionately high in the first quarter, it’s about $1.5 million annually.

John Massocca

Analyst

Okay. And that goes away with the new agreement you’ve reached, I’ll leave it until July.

Mark Peterson

Analyst

Yeah. Yeah. We have some expenses in the second quarter until kind of making it through to the July date, but then we expect that to go away.

John Massocca

Analyst

Okay. Make sense. That’s it from me. Thank you very much.

Mark Peterson

Analyst

Thanks.

Greg Silvers

Analyst

Thanks.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Ki Bin Kim [SunTrust Robinson Humphrey]. Your line is open.

Ki Bin Kim

Analyst

Thanks. When you look at the laid land and where you can deploy capital, how does upgrading the movie theaters fix – fall into that? I was looking at your capital spending plan slide on your supplemental and it doesn’t seem like there is much for this year. So I was curious if you could provide some color on that?

Greg Silvers

Analyst

Again, it’s still something we would do because again, it’s a double benefit in the sense that we get paid for our capital given and we also get an extension of the lease term. So that’s a good benefit. I think what we’re seeing is though that some, at least like AMC right now has turned in its focus, if you follow their call more on their Carmike portfolio as kind of low-hanging fruit and they’ve redirected more of their capital to those properties. We’re confident, it will come back once they get – they finished dealing with those, but they felt like they needed to respond to those properties and turn those around. But we’re still actively doing it with our other operators. We’re looking at with Regal. Regal is just going through a – they were just acquired. So, they’re going through their process and understanding what – Schlitterbahn is understanding what they bought and where they want to go. So, I wouldn’t take this first quarter as an indication. I think we’ve got a couple of things that are going on, but our operators are still committed to this amenitization and we feel that there is real benefit to us to be a part of that.

Ki Bin Kim

Analyst

Okay. And some of those numbers that you gave out earlier in the call on the CLA kind of came out fast and heavy.

Greg Silvers

Analyst

Okay.

Ki Bin Kim

Analyst

So, I know there could be a chance later, but just for the sake of the time, can you just kind of put in the simple terms like what was the revenue again that you were collecting beginning of the year, up until now each month and after July 31st, if that goes to zero, right. And what was the gross asset value at cost of those assets?

Greg Silvers

Analyst

Okay. for those, we were receiving for March, April and May, we have received $750,000 per month. And for June and July, we are scheduled to receive $1 billion per month. So that is that five-month agreement that we agreed to for the assets. Of those 21 assets that are in – 21 assets we think it’s about $250 million of gross value associated with those assets.

Ki Bin Kim

Analyst

Okay. And this tenant, how much equity I mean, approximately did they actually have in those 21 assets?

Greg Silvers

Analyst

Well, and right now, in bankruptcy court, that’s a matter of dispute. So again, probably not real good for us to comment on that right now. Now what I can tell you is, they’re working with somebody to put additional equity and operational capability into it. And as we said, we think that they’re making progress on there and hopefully, we’ll have a solution that will put this issue to – or at least will now directionally, which way we’re going.

Ki Bin Kim

Analyst

Okay. And just last question, going back to the water-park operator, was the original plan underwriting to get the STAR bonds to reduce your – eventually as an exit for your investment or was that just not really in the plane of options?

Greg Silvers

Analyst

No. That was considered not necessarily, but it was also considered an additional collateral support. I mean, we had the properties that would support the amount of interest that we were charging, but it also allowed for kind of multiple avenues of reducing that. And so while, again, those STAR bonds, there’s also a large land parcels out there. So it’s not simply just the STAR bonds, you also have – we have a mortgage on a vast amount of acreage out there that underlies the tenants that would go well on to those STAR bonds. So, there’s multiple avenues of collateral there, but it underwrote with just the support of the Texas Parks.

Ki Bin Kim

Analyst

Okay. Thank you.

Greg Silvers

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

I am showing no further questions at this time. I would now like to turn the conference back to Mr. Greg Silvers, President and CEO.

Greg Silvers

Analyst

Well, we appreciate. Thank you, we appreciate your time and attention, and we look forward to seeing you all at NAREIT and talking to you again, on our next quarter call. Thank you.

Mark Peterson

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today’s conference. Thank you for your participation and have a wonderful day. You may all disconnect.