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Q4 2017 Earnings Call· Wed, Feb 28, 2018

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Operator

Operator

Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Fourth Quarter and Year End 2017 EPR Properties Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference call is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to your host, Brian Moriarty, VP of Corporate Communications. Sir you may begin.

Brian Moriarty

Analyst

Okay. Thanks to everyone for joining us today for our fourth quarter and year end 2017 earnings I will start the call by informing you that this call may include forward-looking statements as defined in the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Identified by such words as "will be," "intend," "continue," "believe," "may," "expect," "hope," "anticipate," or other comparable terms. The Company's actual financial condition and results of operations may vary materially from those contemplated by such forward-looking statements, discussion of these factors that could cause results to differ materially from these forward-looking statements are contained in the Company's SEC filings including the Company's reports on form 10-K and 10-Q. Now turn the call over to Company President and CEO, Greg Silvers.

Greg Silvers

Analyst

Thank you, Brain. Hello everyone and welcome to our fourth quarter and year-end call. I'd like to start by reminding everyone that slides are available to follow along at the EPR website at www.eprkc.com. With me on the call today are the Company's CFO, Mark Peterson.

Mark Peterson

Analyst

Good afternoon.

Greg Silvers

Analyst

And CIO Jerry Earnest.

Jerry Earnest

Analyst

Good afternoon.

Greg Silvers

Analyst

As always I will start with our year-end headlines and then pass the call to Jerry to discuss the business in greater detail. Now I'll get started on today's headlines. First, solid year supports our differentiated investing model. In 2017 we had a productive year achieving record levels in revenue, earnings and investment spending. For the year we delivered a 17% year-over-year increase in top line revenue along with a 4% year-over-year increase in FFO as adjusted per share. Our total investment spending of $1.6 billion which was highlighted by our $730 million CNL transaction added high quality assets and further diversified our tenants and geographies across each of our primary investment segments. This performance demonstrates our differentiated investment thesis which is strategically aligned with the experience economy. Secondly, monthly dividend increase. Subsequent to the end of the quarter we were pleased to announce an increase in our monthly common dividend for 2018 of nearly 6%. This equates to a $4.32 annual dividend and represents our eighth consecutive year with a significant dividend increase. Our average increase during the period has been approximately over 6%. While our dividend now represents a yield of over 7%, it remains well supported with an expected payout ratio of about 81% consistent with past years and well within our targeted range. Third, earnings impacted by challenged tenant. As was outlined in our press release, following bankruptcy filings by subsidiaries of Children's Learning Adventure or CLA, we made the decision to fully reserve approximately $6 million in receivables and write-off approximately $9 million in straight line revenue related to CLA. While our restructuring of this tenant may still occur, we felt it prudent to take a conservative approach for 2017 and remove any revenue associated with CLA for 2018. We believe our action should remove…

Jerry Earnest

Analyst

Thank you Greg. 2017 capped an historic year of investment spending for the company. Fourth quarter investment spending was $126.5 million. And as Greg mentioned, full year spending was $1.6 billion. The CNL Lifestyle transaction during the second quarter accounted for $730 million of investments with a balance of about $850 million in investment spending exceeding the previous year spending of $805 million which was also a record at the time. The spending pace for 2017 reflects the strength with each of our primary investment segments. In the entertainment segment, box office revenues for 2017 softened versus the prior year as we predicted. However, this softness followed two record years with box office increasing by about 10%. As we have stated before it year to year box office results are content driven. With that said the studios have a very successful track record of delivering on this content with year-over-year box office performance increasing in 14 of the last 20 years. Even with that success record Hollywood is going to have some years where their content does not resonate. However, even for years where the box office experienced a down year, the largest one year decline during the 20-year period was 5.8% and the average decline was only approximate 3%. This consistent performance demonstrates the low volatility on an annual basis and steady growth of the theatre industry which continues to be the dominant choice in addition to base entertainment in the U.S. The theater industry is off to a strong start in 2018 with year-to-year box office revenues through February up over 13% on a year-over-year basis. The hit movie, Black Panther, which opened over Presidents’ Day weekend had the largest growth in February weekend ever and the second largest four-day gross of all time, demonstrating a compelling movie…

Mark Peterson

Analyst

Thank you Jerry. I like to remind everyone on the call that our quarterly investor supplemental can be downloaded from the website. Now turning to the first slide, net income for the fourth quarter was $54.7 million or $0.74 per share, compared to $52.2 million or $0.82 per share in the prior year. FFO was $78 million, compared to $80.4 million in the prior year. Lastly, FFO as adjusted for the quarter increased to $95.9 million versus $80.7 million in the prior year, was a $1.29 per share for the quarter versus $1.26 per share in the prior year. As Greg and Gerry mentioned, the fourth quarter of 2017 was unfavorable impacted by the write-off of noncash straight line rent receivables from prior periods of $9 million, against rental revenue and fully reserving $6 million in accounts receivable, both related to CLA. These adjustments reduced FFO as adjusted by $15 million or $0.19 per share for the quarter. Note that for the nine months ended September 30, we had recorded total revenue of about $7.5 million related to CLA. So the $15 million of adjustments this quarter reversed that income, as well as another $7.5 million a straight line rent receivables from the prior year. Before I walk through the key variances I want to briefly discuss two adjustments to FFO to come to FFO as adjusted. First, as we previously announced we completed the redemption of all our six and five eighth Series F for deferred at par plus accrued dividends totaling approximate $126.5 million and recorded a charge of $4.5 million in the fourth quarter, representing original issuance and redemption costs. I'll discuss our new issuance of preferred shares later in my comments. Second, pursuant to tenet purchase options we completed the sale three public charter schools during…

Greg Silvers

Analyst

Thank you, Mark. I want to reiterate that the fundamentals of our segments are strong and our opportunities within the segments are solid and growing. However, we are fundamentally capital allocators. And we take that responsibility seriously. Having been in this business for many years, we are also confident that asset prices will over time realign with capital cost and we will, again, become more acquisitive. We understand that our tenants as well as sellers of assets are looking at the rear view mirror with our expectations and we are pricing capital with the forward perspective. But we also have a very strong conviction that we are in the right assets, that we have the right team to identify those assets and that over time, those assets will produce the cash flow results that investors value. With that, I'll open it up for questions.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] And our first question comes from the line of Anthony Paolone from JP Morgan.

Anthony Paolone

Analyst

Alright thanks and good afternoon. First question is just to make sure I understand that the midpoint of your guidance, is that suggest that at the midpoint, its zero net investment activity?

Mark Peterson

Analyst

Yes that would be correct.

Anthony Paolone

Analyst

Okay. And then when you think about the midpoint on the prior guidance to the new midpoint, how much of that is credit related versus investments?

Mark Peterson

Analyst

You can reconcile the number one down by $0.10 at the midpoint and that's about the number we had in for CLA, consider all CLA related. Couple of other things going on with the redemption and the redemption of bonds, which reduced our interest cost of course, that was about $0.06 about a $0.01 difference in termination fees. And then, obviously, having lower spending and higher dispositions was the remaining impact, but if you kind of got through it all, really the main impact is the CLA reduction.

Anthony Paolone

Analyst

Okay. And then my second question is set on CLA. Can you just step back and maybe give us a sense as to how many stores do you own that are operating versus under construction versus it looks like maybe some landslides, like what's the starting point here?

Greg Silvers

Analyst

Yes I think we have 21 stores that are operating, we have two under some stage of construction that we stopped then we have two land parcels.

Anthony Paolone

Analyst

Okay so 20, 25. And what’s the total basis in all of this?

Greg Silvers

Analyst

About, I think we discussed about $255 million.

Mark Peterson

Analyst

Of properties and we have some land parcels to go.

Anthony Paolone

Analyst

Okay. And then to just understand, throughout the course of 2017, did you get any cash or was it just all accrual through 2017 in terms of…

Greg Silvers

Analyst

Yes we did receive some cash and that kind of went to pay property taxes. So kind of consider that as I watched as far as that goes. Like I said, the $15 million, the charge we took this quarter, $7.5 million was kind of the income we recognized this year, the 16 regular rents, $1.5 million being straight-line and then other $7.5 million of the $15 million was really prior year straight-line rent. That's it breaks down. $15 million in total $7.5 million related to the prior, and $7.5 million to where we had recognized. And like I said while we did get some cash that was really an offset to property taxes.

Anthony Paolone

Analyst

So it would be – what was the expected yield on all 25 sites like how much cash and why would that have been?

Mark Peterson

Analyst

I think the expectation would have been that it would have been about a $20 million contributor. We, as Mark said, we had kind of geared it back down to above an expectation of about $7.5 million with that growing because our stores were actually performing, and so, but Tony, when the bankruptcy came, we felt it and candidly, in discussion with investors that this was creating an overhang on kind of what numbers we had in there. So we made the decision in consultation with our accountants that it was time to write that off and then clear it from the decks for 2018, so it really becomes upside opportunity.

Anthony Paolone

Analyst

Okay sure, then there is zero in the guidance and there is zero cash right now coming in.

Greg Silvers

Analyst

That’s correct.

Anthony Paolone

Analyst

And then just separately last question. Can you give us a quick run through the major segments and credit conditions like, whether it's EBITDA coverage at the theaters or ski just overall credit.

Greg Silvers

Analyst

I would say overall, like our Entertainment segment is above – we're right at – we picture a [ph] 1/6 cover, which is consistent with what it's been for within that range that we talk about. So our Recreation, probably as Jerry mentioned, our ski portfolio was kind of higher. And so it was kind of closer to a 2.0 and our education was right in our 1.5 that we talk about. So overall, the entire company was at right in that 1.7 range.

Anthony Paolone

Analyst

Okay. Great. Thank you.

Greg Silvers

Analyst

Thank you, Tony.

Operator

Operator

And our next question comes from Mike O'Carroll from RBC Capital Markets. Your line is now open.

Mike O'Carroll

Analyst

Yes. Thanks. So with regards to CLA, how should we think about the situation today? The tenant is in bankruptcy now. So you're 25 stores, including land parcels, are kind of locked up in the bankruptcy process and you were not able to get the stores that you originally and terminate the lease signed in October?

Greg Silvers

Analyst

That's correct. Again, that we are and they are working with several capital sources to recap the company. We are also exploring other alternatives with other operators. So we are – we’re trying to expedite the solution of this. We’re kind of pushing the bankruptcy court to the extent that we can. Like I said, we feel that we have good stores, performing stores and I think by the interest that we've had, from various parties, we think there is a solution that will get this resolved in 2018. And that these have an opportunity to become productive in 2018 and contribute. We just felt that, rather than – have been talking about it and what's in there and what's the risk out there that it was more prudent and conservative to remove it all and that it will be hopefully, an upside to our performance.

Mike O'Carroll

Analyst

Now will the tenant in bankruptcy have to elect if they're going to affirm or cancel the leases? And when is that?

Greg Silvers

Analyst

That's correct. Our first schedule hearing is scheduled in March. Again, so there will be an opportunity for us to present the case that they need to begin making payments on that. So again, what we don't know is kind of how quickly that will move. If they decide they want to start and make payments or if they want to give us our properties back. It's an ongoing discussion, Michael.

Mike O'Carroll

Analyst

And are the existing properties right now profitable?

Greg Silvers

Analyst

Again, for us, yes. Now that I’m not saying that’s for all of the CLAs properties.

Mike O'Carroll

Analyst

Okay. And then the interest that you received in the ones that you elected to terminate that's kind of locked up. How many different operators have elected to look at those schools and where have the – I guess, that you can't say right now, but if you can say, where were the rental rates kind of coming out?

Greg Silvers

Analyst

Yes. Again, I don't think it's a good idea for us to negotiate on our call and it could be multiple operators. Generally, what I would tell you is we would look at these in kind of regional groups. There is generally operators that want to operate these in different segments, and again, trying to give numbers, while we're actively negotiating with several is probably not in our best interest.

Mike O'Carroll

Analyst

Okay, great. Fair enough. Thanks.

Greg Silvers

Analyst

Thank you, Michael.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Nick Joseph from Citi. Your line is now open.

Nick Joseph

Analyst

Thanks. Greg, you mentioned the capital allocators. What are the lessons kind of learned that I can take forward from CLA in terms of tenant underwriting or investments going forward?

Greg Silvers

Analyst

Sure. I think it's a fair question, Nick. And we made some mistakes and we need to own that. I think for us, like I said, we look at kind of our exposure to this tenant and not appreciating the level of credit decisions they were making away from us. And I think we've already made changes in our underwriting to be more detailed on where there are other tenants – other capital commitments are and what kind of exposure that we have to each tenant in this space. These spaces are different than our theater spaces where there is a lot of homogeneous nature to the property relative between operators. It's not that, that in the early ed. space. And I can assure you we have looked at it and we've already made changes to address what we saw where issues.

Nick Joseph

Analyst

Thanks. And you mentioned a lag on the pricing. If you look back historically, how long does it typically take cap rates to adjust to a movement in interest rates?

Greg Silvers

Analyst

My guess is, it’s going to be somewhere in the neighborhood of six to nine months. Again, it takes a little while – again, we all benefited that it went the other direction. And they will – and sellers and tenants will not give that up easily. Yet they will their businesses as long as their businesses are doing well, they will want to grow in their business. And I think, historically, if you go back even when interest rates were higher and we’ve seen these dips and raises, that it’s generally a six to nine month period.

Nick Joseph

Analyst

Thanks. And just finally, we’ve seen a lot of M&A in terms – but studio and media companies are proposed M&A. How does that impact do you think premium video on demand and production of content going forward?

Greg Silvers

Analyst

I think there is a couple of things that are – I think, premium video demand we were just at a conference where that was and it's interesting. They were pretty much saying that – Disney pretty much said, I hope this issue is dead now, because it's no longer being discussed. Now that doesn't mean that other people are keeping it on, but it really – it hasn't reared its head. The content aspect is true. I think what – we're very excited about is what we saw, Jerry mentioned Black Panther, and how the idea, I truly do believe and this was kind of the concept of that conference that we were at the dawn of a new age where we're introducing new directors, new writers and we're not just simply doing product for one genre of people, but we're broadening that and we are seeing whether that's a female audience for Wonder Woman, a diverse audience for Black Panther. And as we start to open ourselves to more a greater diversity of film product, I think, we will see a greater embraced by the public of that product. So we’re very excited about kind of the creativity that we are seeing come to the market.

Nick Joseph

Analyst

Thanks.

Greg Silvers

Analyst

Thank you, Nick.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Craig Mailman from KeyBanc Capital. Your line is now open.

Craig Mailman

Analyst

Hey, guys. Not to beat the dead horse here on CLA, but a couple of questions, I guess, number one, are those assets mashed released?

Greg Silvers

Analyst

They are. They've cross defaulted. There's some that are part of mashed release some that are cross defaulted.

Craig Mailman

Analyst

So how many could they reject versus the cross defaulted versus mashed released?

Greg Silvers

Analyst

Again, I think this – I think they would have a difficulty. Again, we’re not getting into their bankruptcy strategy. I would tell you that we don't believe that they've an ongoing business model without our assets given the productivity of our assets.

Craig Mailman

Analyst

Okay. And then just I know we talked about this on the last quarter call when you guys gave guidance, but I guess, given the troubles that you know they're in, the fact that they weren't paying cash rent for much of 2017. Kind of what was the thought process of putting anything in guidance for these guys versus just being very, very conservative in just blanking them?

Greg Silvers

Analyst

It’s a fair question Craig. I think, again, when you look at ours and the idea of the productivity of our stores and what they were, what we felt was a conservative number relative to that and talking with them and their assurances that they were making progress toward a kind of a recap of some of the issues that they were looking at. But we met with capital providers that were affiliated with what they were looking to do. So we were in dialogue with them. We felt like the process was just taking so long that we needed to take action. And so, we filed, as we talked about termination notices on nine of our properties in an effort to accelerate that process. That created a reaction, which again, from them to protect their interest, they took our assets into bankruptcy. We still believe that was the right thing to do to get this process moving. At this time, we felt like that those numbers, they would and should be able to pay those numbers. And we felt like we had confidence that they would get paid. After the filing of a bankruptcy, meeting with our accountants, we felt then at that point, it kind of changes the trajectory of where you are at – when you are actively trying to take your properties back. And so, we felt like we need to take this approach and make these accounting decisions.

Jerry Earnest

Analyst

Yes, I think just to add to that, I think we believe then and we believe now restructuring is the most logical outcome. But like Greg said, they filed bankruptcy and the delay – just another quarter of delay, those two things combined let us to the conclusion that we needed to reserve this. And then hopefully, there's upside going forward in the near term.

Craig Mailman

Analyst

And then Mark, maybe reconcile from me, I know you said potential reduction, most of its from CLA, but was all of the acquisition activity you guys have were predominantly all of that just development that wasn't going to hit at all in 2018. I just don't know how you go from $750 million to the midpoint of $400 million and bump up dispositions as much you didn't have no impact on guidance?

Mark Peterson

Analyst

Remember, I’ve got it up from refinancing from the bond redemption, which is about $0.06 –$0.10 negative from CLA, $0.06 positive from the redemption. And then that less acquisitions, more dispositions and other updates was really a $0.05 negative to the plan. So there is an offset.

Greg Silvers

Analyst

And there is still, again, as you know, we came into this year with $200 million of in-process development, that's not necessarily contributing in 2017. So those – well, those may be a positive, I mean, in 2018, those will be positive for 2019, they are not like acquisitions for us that immediately contribute.

Craig Mailman

Analyst

Okay. And then on the dividend, I mean, did you guys have room not to raise the dividend. I'm just curious that decision, you talked about being capital allocators, the cheapest source of capital, the stock has moved tremendously, you guys need to put capital out of the door for growth. The kind of decision to raise it here, was it you had to because that's where tax on the income was going? Or is it you guys wanted to keep the message out there to your income oriented investors that you were going to continue to reward them, just kind of curious if you can reconcile that.

Mark Peterson

Analyst

Well, the payout ratio, which is really ultimately what we based is still at the midpoint, 81%. That’s exactly…

Greg Silvers

Analyst

So I mean, we kind of maintain that 80%, 81%. So it was kind of right there.

Mark Peterson

Analyst

So its significant excess cash flow and dividend will cover. So we think it was the right move.

Craig Mailman

Analyst

Right. But do you have room not to raise the dividend, that's what I'm getting at – just sort of why didn’t you keep a payout ratio can be somewhat arbitrary versus your capital needs and being able to reinvest that capital?

Greg Silvers

Analyst

Again, I think it was a combination. We probably had a little room, but not tremendous.

Craig Mailman

Analyst

And then just last one. The increase in dispositions, how much of that – is that all opportunistic? Or you want to recycle capital to harvest gains? Or is that have more charter schools in there?

Mark Peterson

Analyst

No, it's primarily the charter schools that we knew and the other side of that is kind of the opportunistic through recycle capital. We think we've got opportunities that are better opportunities for us, rather than raising equity at these levels.

Craig Mailman

Analyst

And just what’s the conviction there? You're talking about cap rates going higher, the six to nine month lag, you guys are clearly bringing product down into a more difficult environment, but what's your pricing expectations here are you willing to be forward thinking and maybe take upward move in cap rate as you sell the stuff? Or are you going to kind of hope friendly, I think it is worth and maybe that’s limit the amount you actually get done?

Greg Silvers

Analyst

Again, I would tell you that we are – we wouldn't be kind of forecasting these kind of moves if we were in active discussions with people. So we have a good idea. I think – we think that we can achieve sales at or near we think these assets are worth. We’re not – this is not in any shape perform a higher sale. There, we have assets for which there is desire for, and so we – these discussions, like I said are ongoing. So these are – there's in the sense – they're specular because they haven't closed, but they're not specular because they're not known.

Craig Mailman

Analyst

Great. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] And our next question comes from Rob Stevenson from Janney. Your line is now open.

Rob Stevenson

Analyst

Good afternoon, guys. Thanks. The Topgolf that you said we are currently under construction, is that the end of the batch of that Topgolf that you guys have under agreement with them?

Greg Silvers

Analyst

Yes, that would be the end of the agreement and in fact, there's one or two of those that are beyond our agreement that we had started discussions with them and kind of reached the end of our agreement and we agreed to do two more beyond that. So just because we had helped them kind of help them in identifying sites and things of that, where we – kind of value added to the equation.

Rob Stevenson

Analyst

Okay. And are there any kind of instead of outside of your top 10 that you guys have been doing more with on the sort of quarterly investments that you could see wind up being a top 10 tenant over the next couple of years?

Greg Silvers

Analyst

I don't think anybody that right now we're kind of looking at. We're probably doing more diversity than anything. I think in our recreation concepts, we're seeing a greater number of operators. So I don't think there's one explosive kind of – I think we're looking at, let's do – five concept of $20 million each to get to 100 as opposed to 10 with one person at $10 million.

Rob Stevenson

Analyst

Okay. And then any other tenants other than CLA not current on their payments now of note?

Greg Silvers

Analyst

No, nothing of materiality at all.

Rob Stevenson

Analyst

Okay. And then anybody of any size moving on to your watch list, in terms of people that you worried about last year or so?

Greg Silvers

Analyst

No. I mean, again, what we said is the ski season revenues are relatively flat or recreation that just they kept – they’re fully funded for their seasonal reserves. So we feel like we're in good shape. Our large theaters tenants are, like I said, this year, we think will be a strong year. So we're feeling pretty good where we're at from a credit perspective against the backdrop of this conversation about CLA.

Rob Stevenson

Analyst

Okay. Thanks, guys. I appreciate it.

Operator

Operator

And our next question comes from the line of John Massocca from Ladenburg Thalmann. Your line is now open.

John Massocca

Analyst

Good evening, everyone. So just kind of quick question here. Is there any cost of carry for the CLA assets made into your guidance, and if CLA did vacate the assets kind of what would that be?

Greg Silvers

Analyst

Again, there is not right now baked into that guidance. So that could be – that you get into an absolute catastrophic, there could be some additional money associated with taxes and things of that nature. Again, that's – we think from the bankruptcy court will protect us on that and got in some degree of assurance on that or we will be able to get our properties back and get them into the hands of other people.

John Massocca

Analyst

Okay. And then you guys kind of talk about how in the midpoint in your new guidance, it's going to be a offset all acquisitions – dispositions, and what kind of recreation are you getting from a capital recycling perspective on your opportunistic dispositions?

Greg Silvers

Analyst

I mean, I think, it's a fair standpoint that we would be looking for that on an initial cash yield, probably 100 basis points clear and on a GAAP yield, it could be better.

John Massocca

Analyst

Okay. And then has review on leverage – your target leverage kind of change it all given the situation at CLA, given the kind of volatility in the equity market. Is there any thought process to maybe lowering the range of leverage you want to run the company at or you're just comfortable kind of getting back towards maybe the bottom end of your prior range and just staying there?

Greg Silvers

Analyst

I’ll let Mark jump on this. But I think as part of this – its part of our plan. We're actually lowering leverage because between if you look at dispositions and then you look at free cash flow that will result in actually as kind of lowering leverage, but Mark?

Mark Peterson

Analyst

No. I think that's right. We historically kind of operated low 5s and at this point, we kind of enter the year 5.3, 5.4 and leverage us with CLA at zero by the way. The next year, as Greg said, if you take $400 million of dispositions, $400 million of investment spending, but then put the cash flow on top of it, it's a delevering year at those target numbers. So no broad changes. We think our range is good. We think where we end of the year is still good with CLA at zero. I think next year, we're going to continue the low leverage high credit metrics that we've always had.

John Massocca

Analyst

But there is no like kind of – if this is maybe get it down into the mid-4s just kind of.

Greg Silvers

Analyst

Not at this time. We don't see that.

John Massocca

Analyst

Okay. That’s it for me. Thank you very much.

Operator

Operator

And I'm showing no further questions. I would now like to turn the call back to Greg Silvers for any further remarks.

Greg Silvers

Analyst

Thank you, operator. Again, thanks everyone for your time and attention. We look forward to talking to you throughout the year and on our first quarter earnings call later this year. So thanks a lot. Bye-bye.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for participating in today's conference. This concludes today's program and you may all disconnect. Everyone have a great day.