Laurence Penn
Analyst · Deutsche Bank.
Yes. So thanks for the question. First of all, I do want to say that usually around that business there at month -- which will be Monday, that's normally, we don't preannounce these things. But normally, on Monday would be when we would publish our estimated book value for July. So I'd rather not talk about July, overall, at this point, but you'll see something just probably early next week. In terms of looking forward to the second half of the year, I would like to point out that we did cover our dividend in the first quarter. In the second quarter, if you strip out those effects that leads to quantify $0.11 or so and the credit hedges $0.07 or so on that rallied by trading strategy that we did just disclose was profitable in July. Then, you're pretty close to the dividend, right. So if you add that back to our earnings quarter-to-quarter. So I think we're, as I said, I don't think we're quite there in terms of where we want to be, in terms of having that portfolio of yield-bearing assets, the size, the way we wanted to be sized. We still have extra capital. You can see that in our cash balance. And you can see that in the sizing of some of the strategies like Guerilla value strategy that are still being used while we're ramping up. But yes, so I think for the next quarter or so and if you look on Slide 7 -- thanks Lisa, you can see that we have capital that we view as utterly undeployed of 11%. And that's not an unusual number for us, but I'd like to point out that included in the other capital numbers is risk capital as well. That extra capital we set aside to counter the fact that if we got repos you might have margin calls, repo role risk. A lot of it's related to the repo. So -- which I think is going to also tough also from our call, we're moving away from repo, right. Moving more towards things like term banks financing, for example, in the consumer portfolio and securitization plan, I think, ultimately on some other thing. So yes, so I think that's how I would think of it. What's the expression, trees don't grow to the sky. So I think that the drag from these credit hedges is got to be largely played out. I'm never going to say it's totally played out, but we think that it's still a very prudent hedge to have in place even where spreads are, especially, in so many of these commoditized sectors. So I -- we're not -- in our DNA, we're not going to just toss those out because they have performed well.