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Viant Technology Inc. (DSP)

Q1 2022 Earnings Call· Tue, May 3, 2022

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Operator

Operator

Okay, hello, everyone. And welcome to Viant's First Quarter 2022 Earnings Call. My name is David, I'll be your operator today. Before I hand the call over to the Viant leadership team, I'd like to just go over a few housekeeping notes for the program. As a reminder, this webinar is being recorded. After the speakers’ remarks there will be a question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions]. Thank you for your attendance today. I would now like to turn the call over to Nicole Borsje with The Blueshirt Group. Nicole Borsje Thank you, David. Good afternoon and welcome to Viant Technology’s first quarter 2022 financial results conference call. On the call today are Tim Vanderhook, Co-Founder and Chief Executive Officer; Chris Vanderhook, Co-Founder and Chief Operating Officer; and Larry Madden, Chief Financial Officer. I’d like to remind you that we will make forward-looking statements on our call today that are based on assumptions and subject to future events, risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those projected. We undertake no obligation to update those statements, except as required by law. For more information about factors that may cause actual results to differ materially from our forward-looking statements and our entire Safe Harbor statement, please refer to the press release issued today as well as the risks and uncertainties described in our Form 10-K and other filings with the SEC. During today's call, we will also present both GAAP and non-GAAP financial results. Additional disclosures regarding these non-GAAP measures, including a reconcile of GAAP to non-GAAP measures are included in the press release we issued today and our filings with the SEC and in the supplemental financial slides posted to our investor relations website to accompany today’s presentation. I’d now like to turn the call over to Tim Vanderhook, Chief Executive Officer of Viant. Tim?

Tim Vanderhook

Analyst

Thank you everyone for joining us for our first quarter earnings call. Our team continued to execute very well in the first quarter and we had a successful start to the year. Our first quarter results were highlighted by accelerating growth and active customers, which increased 23% year-over-year, as we continue to gain share across the programmatic advertising market. Larry will cover the financials in detail in a minute but we again met our revenue and EBITDA guidance for the first quarter. Our people-based advertising platform is becoming more strategic for larger advertisers and we are fostering deeper relationships across advertiser and agency customers. These customers see an opportunity to allocate more of their budgets to programmatic advertising through our Adelphic software, and they value its ability to offer personalized advertising in cookie-less environments. We are excited about the progress we are having with our customers, coupled with the robust growth we are seeing in total customer count. And we continue to believe that Adelphic is gaining market share as the industry's leading people-based DSP. With that said, let me move on to some highlights from the first quarter, and our latest thoughts on the industry landscape as a whole. Digital advertising has been and continues to be one of the most exciting and dynamic industries to work in. The momentum driving advertisers to spend across programmatic advertising have never been stronger. And at the same time, there has never been as much scrutiny on privacy and the sharing of personal data as there is today. Our people based ad platform Adelphic, which is powered by our household ID technology is squarely positioned to help advertisers successfully navigate these two major dynamics and drive better ROI on their ad dollars. The explosive growth in connected TV continues to be one…

Chris Vanderhook

Analyst

Thanks, Tim. We believe our software is best-in-class and offers immense value to our clients. The virtuous cycle we're seeing play out with our customers begins with Viant creating best-in-class software that also has some of the lowest infrastructure costs in the industry. This combination allows us to offer compelling pricing options to our customers that save them money, which in turn allows them to consolidate more of their ad spending with Viant. Our steady stream of innovation keeps this cycle in play. Last year, our mediator technology brought us more than 4x the cost efficiency of handling millions of ad requests every second. More recently, we released new features that enable our clients to strike direct deals with large content owners like Fox, NBC, Hulu, Paramount, and countless others, all with the goal of consolidating even more of their spending in Adelphic. Once a client starts consolidating spending across all channels, our software becomes ingrained within their organization and makes us very sticky. In Q1, we achieved 44% growth in advertiser spend, which is nearly twice the market growth rate. What does this mean? We are winning more new customers, we are consolidating even more ad spend with existing customers. And we are now attracting much larger customers who have the ability to spend a lot more. We are undoubtedly increasing our share of the market. In Q1, we signed 27 new customers surpassing our forecasts. Impressively, more than 60% of them went straight to our MSA process and adopted our percent of spend pricing option, completely bypassing the need to test us on a fixed price basis. This is a testament to the increasing momentum our software has gained with brands and their agencies. For the same period last year, it was reversed, 65% of our new customer…

Larry Madden

Analyst

Thanks, Chris. And thank you everyone for joining us today. Before I begin, I'd like to remind everyone that we have posted supplemental financial slides to our Investor Relations website to accompany today's presentation. As Tim and Chris both mentioned, we are extremely pleased with the market share gains we achieved in Q1. Advertisers spend on the platform increased 44% over the prior year period, which represented in our second highest quarterly growth rates since 2019. Such growth also represented a significant acceleration from full year 2021 levels where advertisers spend grew 29%. Marketers and their agencies are allocating more of their advertising budgets to our platform. And we are winning new customers at an accelerating rate, which makes us more bullish than ever that our solution is resonating with customers. Revenue growth for the quarter was in line with our expectations and adjusted EBITDA was slightly better than expected. As we indicated in March, growth across our percent of spent pricing model is far outpacing growth across fixed price. And we expect this trend to continue going forward. This is coming from both new and existing customers. Our easy-to-use self-serve software is driving increased adoption and more dollars are moving to our platform. While this mix shift between pricing models will impact revenue growth rates near term, we do expect the relationship between growth and advertiser spend and growth in revenue to improve as we move through the year and beyond. This afternoon, I will be discussing some of the highlights of our Q1 performance as well as some of the key financial and operational drivers during the quarter. And I will also be reviewing our current expectations for Q2 and the full year 2022. In terms of top-line metrics for the first quarter, as I said advertisers spent…

Operator

Operator

Thank you very much. [Operator Instructions] And it looks like our first question is from Maria Ripps with Canaccord. You now have your mic unmuted.

Maria Ripps

Analyst

Well, thanks so much for taking my questions. So first, your revenue guidance implies approximately 25% growth for the second half of the year. Can you maybe just talk about what's embedded in your guidance in terms of sort of continued make shift towards percent of spent model? Do you expect that mix to sort of moderate? And is there a way to quantify that? And then any thoughts you can share on the linearity of revenue growth in the second half of the year?

Tim Vanderhook

Analyst

Yes. Larry, you want to take that?

Larry Madden

Analyst

Hi, Maria. Thanks for the question. In terms of the second half, yes, those numbers kind of mid to high 20s, we're very confident that we'll be able to achieve them. We do as we've said expect the percentage of spend pricing options to continue to drive that growth. But one of the factors in terms of the growth rates and revenue and ex TAC that we are expecting that to improve in the second half is, if you look back at the first half of 2021, we had a significant amount of testing on the platform on fixed price that now is on percentage of spend. So the first half in terms of 2022 the growth rates in revenue and the growth rates in ex TAC are quite a bit lower than the growth rates in spend. We expect that to improve significantly in the second half. So spend will continue to grow significantly, but revenue in ex TAC will begin to catch up in the second half.

Maria Ripps

Analyst

Got it. And then, my second question is also related to this topic. So with increasing mix shift towards percent of spend, can you maybe give us some color on the relative take rates between your different pricing models? And maybe you can talk about sort of how those take rates have been trending over the past several quarters. So I guess just any numbers you can share with us to bridge the gap between the platform usage and revenue growth here in the near term that will be helpful.

Chris Vanderhook

Analyst

Yes. I think it's less of the take rate per se. We do make less as I said earlier. We do make less than a percentage of spend per dollar that's spent but the dollars are bigger. As I highlighted when someone's on percentage of spent. When someone's on fixed price yes, you're making more per dollar but you certainly don't have the spend ability that you get out of the percent of spend type customers. I think it really is though if you listen to Larry just said around in his remarks around gross accounting or fixed price that's really that's the other piece that is the larger factor. But because we had a higher mix of fixed price testing last year, and now so many of those have moved over percentage of spend, and so many of our new customers are on percentage of spend, we expect that back half really the growth rates and revenue to really increase to where our full year guide will end up at.

Tim Vanderhook

Analyst

And I would add over time post 2022 because we believe percentage of spend will continue to be the driver, you will see the growth rates and revenue in ex TAC get closer and closer to the growth rates in percentage of spent -- in terms of advertisers spend as fixed price component becomes a smaller and smaller piece of the total spent.

Maria Ripps

Analyst

Got it. Thank you so much for the color.

Operator

Operator

Okay, thank you. Our next question comes from Laura Martin with Needham.

Laura Martin

Analyst · Needham.

Great. I'm going to start on -- you guys brought up Netflix in your prepared remarks. And so I'm very interested in your thinking as Disney Plus brings in an ad driven tear this year and Netflix, we assume next year? It feels like that's bad for you or maybe it's not but that's my question. Because it feels like suddenly, there's going to be this enormous supply hitting the market of CTV ad units. And that will hurt CPMs in the near term and you guys get paid as a percent of total ad spend. So since you just said the largest category, the largest channel for you is CTV isn't that bad for you as they bring ad driven tears into the market?

Chris Vanderhook

Analyst · Needham.

I wouldn't say that at all, I'd say definitely the opposite. I think everybody reacted in our industry reacted similarly, which was wow! I would probably pick Netflix, if you put them out there today, in terms of CTV, if they were to be ad supported, they're likely number two compared to YouTube, which is massive, and marketers are going to need access to that. They're also -- if you're seeing the trend is that, a lot of these companies may need the independent ad tech infrastructure to pull off an advertising business. I think about Netflix opening up has so many benefits, one, it's going to enable all of linear television to shift. We need the growth in CTV and consumption and more content to be ad supported. So I think that's a huge benefit number one, because we still have another half of videos over in linear TV. And then, the second part is, this is yet another example of yet another company in customer type building in ads business and they just keep exploding. Last year all the talk around retail media networks, I mean, I can't tell you how many conversations we're having with different types of companies, content owners included, looking for key ad technology, mainly a DSP to help power that business. So I think it's positive in tons of different directions.

Laura Martin

Analyst · Needham.

Super helpful. And then my second one is for Larry. I understand that you guys are saying you're going to -- you're ramping up sales and technology and all these things. And that's going to turn into revenue, more revenue in the second half. But when I actually look at the expenses year-over-year, I show sales and marketing down 3% and tech and development down 15%. So it looks like most of the cost increases were up at platform operations. So can you explain why those are going down when I thought that the primary margin compression you cited was -- you're building up sales and marketing.

Larry Madden

Analyst · Needham.

That is on a GAAP basis. You have to remember our GAAP figures include quite a significant amount of stock-based comp last year was over 17 million in the quarter. This year, it was over 6 million in the quarter. We do have slides on our Investor Relations website that show basically taking the GAAP OpEx backing out these non-cash items like D&A and SBC. And with that perspective, you can see the increase. And the increase this year and particularly in Q1 is larger than the increase will be for the full year because a lot of the increase is coming from the annualization of the investments we made last year. And most of the investments we made last year were post Q1. So Q1 this year in particular, has a higher increase in percentage increase in OpEx, and that will go down over the course of the year. But you have to look at it without stock-based comp, without TAC and without D&A, all of those three numbers are included in the GAAP operating expenses.

Laura Martin

Analyst · Needham.

Super helpful. Thank you so much. Thanks, guys.

Operator

Operator

Okay. Our next question comes from Andrew Boone with JMP.

Andrew Boone

Analyst · JMP.

Guys, good afternoon. Thanks for the questions. I wanted to hit first on privacy, just given all the conversations that we continue to have with investors, and in terms of the changing privacy landscape. Can you parse out just the risks to the business? Like how do we think about the potential for IP deprecation for you guys, as well as the tailwinds, right? So as Google ad ID goes away, likely over the next two years as cookies go away in 2023. Just update us overall in terms of the tailwinds and the headwinds as we think about the business as it relates to privacy.

Chris Vanderhook

Analyst · JMP.

Yes. Let me start, you can fill it on. When I think about, rewind a year ago, this was a lot of what we talked about during the IPO is that these identifiers and these risks of these other businesses with IDs going away, and a heightened kind of awareness around privacy. This is really what our platform was built around. And for us, the long-term view, it's not a silver bullet strategy of one ID that works versus the others. It really is a framework, what we talk about as our people-based framework. But really, what does that truly end up meaning? Where do we see where that kind of north star is. These IDs that are supplied by big techs somewhat deprecate, go away, evolve, definitely get watered down like they have been. But in the end, we think that addressable experiences only increase over time, because they're going to be a benefit for consumers. And what we're seeing right now is a huge trend, where content owners, who have direct relationships with consumers and marketers who have really direct relationships with consumers need a platform in the middle to connect both sets of first party data, that's really what is happening. That's number one. Number two, where's that happening, it's not going to happen in the browser. It's not going to happen in Safari or across, Android live on a device, it's all going to happen server side between these entities, and that really is going to allow for the privacy to take place disclosure to consumers. But marketers in the end, get to offer a personalized advertising and see what they get for their money measurement. This is exactly where we're positioned. And its big increase, big reason why we have such a large increase in our platform spend growing 44%, this quarter. So that's our view on the privacy piece, it's going to continue, just like we said a year ago, but it is exactly where our platform is built.

Tim Vanderhook

Analyst · JMP.

And I'll just add to that. I mean, really, at a 50,000 per view, what's happening in the privacy landscape cookies were an opt out model, consumers had to find them, delete them, figure out how to turn them off and keep doing that over and over. That privacy pendulum has shifted more towards an opt-in model, which is around the PII data associated with an email address or the registration on an actual website. So I think what you're seeing at a high level is a move from opt-out to opt-in. And for us that opt-in is usually on a people-based framework. And that's really where Chris mentioned, we bring in the data matching between the advertiser and the content owners. And that's what's been driving our growth. So we view digital identifiers being deleted as an absolute tailwind for our business. We've said it since we went public. And I think that will continue to be a tailwind for many years.

Andrew Boone

Analyst · JMP.

Well, that's actually a nice segue into my second question. As you guys brought up measurement last quarter, in terms of the 100 plus partners this quarter, you guys brought it up in the prepared remarks in terms of continued advancements there? Can you just double click in terms of just the attribution and measurement side and just talk about the progress that you've made there as well as just how do you think you compare against other DSPs that are out there? And the differentiation between the platforms? Thanks so much.

Tim Vanderhook

Analyst · JMP.

Yes. Well, let me start on this. I think the biggest differentiation from the measurement that a people-based DSP offers versus our traditional large competitors is that we can measure in-store sales or offline activity as well as online and ecommerce transactions that are happening. Everyone that's relying on a digital identifier is only being able to measure or report back sales in these ID based environments, which is primarily Google Chrome now. So the biggest advantage is right off the top. If any business that operates in a physical retail space, and an ecommerce online as a sales channel, we blend both of those back and we're able to -- for them to understand what which ads are driving in-store sales, which ads are driving online sales and what that means for the total revenue of that organization. That is by far the number one differentiator when it comes to measurement.

Chris Vanderhook

Analyst · JMP.

I would say to -- just from our standpoint, we continue to offer we continue to roll out a ton of innovation around measurement. It's a huge reason why customers work with us. The value and the benefit of working with a people-based platform is in the measurement. You get to truly see the return on ad spend. And then you get to make clear decisions. This was taken for granted years ago because big tech whether been a cookie or an Apple giving you an IDFA, it was easy for everyone, was the easy button for measurement, you knew that you showed an ad? Did they show up in your website, download something but easy. But when you started to think about those going away. Marketers have a huge challenge right now. And the big trend that we're seeing is them really taking measurement in-house. And they're really having to do measurement on their own in the cloud. And they need partners to do that. When you think about us, like I said, how longstanding here, but we have our own Data Lake platform that connects in either customers use it on their own as their own cleanroom. Or we connect into other third-party clean rooms like Snowflake. So we have a huge lead here. And I think that you're going to see more innovation come out of us, it's also going to be another big reason why I think our revenue growth rates pick up in the back half of the year as well.

Andrew Boone

Analyst · JMP.

Thanks, guys.

Operator

Operator

Okay. Our next question comes from Andrew Marok with Raymond James.

Andrew Marok

Analyst · Raymond James.

Hey, guys, thanks for taking my questions. One more swing at the percent of spend issue. So with 60% of new customers coming in at percent of spend and revenue kind of in line with guidance in 1Q? Does that imply that the shift 2% of spend is kind of progressing in line with your expectations so far?

Chris Vanderhook

Analyst · Raymond James.

Yes. I mean, what we don't control -- what I don't control is when we go-to-market and a customer, let's say like [last year] [ph], and they test us and fixed price, I don't control when they make the move. A lot of that is an internal decision. They have to work through MSA process, those can be lengthy. What we're seeing is that we had great success last year with those customers and tests on our platform, they have shifted to percentage of spend, they're spending even more. And what we're not having to do is prove ourselves at the start, like we did, let's say for the last couple of years. Now the awareness level, around buying and our Adelphic software has increased dramatically. And a lot of -- you see it, customers are holding us up saying no, I'm not going to do the MSA with you yet. I want to test on fixed price. They're going straight to an MSA and they start spending. The benefit of that, I would say is, it's not that it was more than we expected, per se. I think what we don't -- I know our retention rates increase in the percentage of spend and they're spending even more so really, it's fast forwarding our progress and our sales cycle with these customers. And when we think about how much customers are spending with us, I think fast forwarded us in our long-term kind of projections and it's actually really great to see, does have a drag on the short-term on the revenue growth. But again, we think that's going to subside in the back half.

Andrew Marok

Analyst · Raymond James.

Understood. And also, we saw some strong results in some of the emerging verticals like emerging channels like audio and digital out-of-home. Wondering you guys just a little bit of carte blanche to talk about how those channels are driving value for advertisers and your platform. And how big can those become for you over time?

Tim Vanderhook

Analyst · Raymond James.

Yes, definitely. When we think of streaming audio, it's the next most exciting category behind connected TV has all of the target ability, all of the measurability and the unique engagement with the end consumer where they're listening with full attention to a podcast or music in their car. So to us we look at streaming audio has another huge channel that can be unlocked in the future. And everything we're learning on connected television is applicable to streaming audio as well to. Digital out-of-home, obviously, this was a big grower prior to our IPO prior to the pandemic, hitting and we've started to see this emerge now as a pretty substantial category on many media plans that marketers are looking to reach. But I think overall the strength in all those channels really is a testament to our household ID technology. It's the ability to buy across all of those channels, and then understand which ad within those channels actually drove the revenue for the customer. And that's where the measurement kicks in leveraging this household ID as the best way to actually plan, buy and measure omni channel advertising in Adelphic. So to us, we see huge tailwinds in streaming audio, enormous tailwinds, especially now that the pandemic has -- for the most part started to come to an end. I know COVID keeps flaring up. But I think society is kind of moving past this period. And digital out-of-home we're seeing is on many, many plans.

Chris Vanderhook

Analyst · Raymond James.

Now Andrew, one other points just around this and why it's important. When you have broad based spending growth across all channels, it proves the point that Adelphic software is extremely valuable to the customers. There's plenty of other companies that will have one-off growth shoots are within certain channels. But it really shows the value of our software. We've long said that you could have a great ID, you could have great capabilities. But if your software doesn't make it super easy for them to buy and then understand what they got for their money is they're not going to consolidate spend across your platform. They're just not the marketers I'm talking about. So in the end, this is really a yet another proof point that Adelphic software is really enterprise grade and we're making incredible inroads out there and now with even larger customers, so those are all incredible things to see.

Andrew Marok

Analyst · Raymond James.

Understood, very helpful. Very interesting. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Okay. At this time, I do not see any more questions. So I will turn it back over to you for closing remarks.

Tim Vanderhook

Analyst

All right. I'd like to thank everyone once again for joining our quarterly earnings call and we'll see you next quarter. Bye.

Chris Vanderhook

Analyst

Thank you.