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Dine Brands Global, Inc. (DIN)

Q3 2018 Earnings Call· Wed, Oct 31, 2018

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Operator

Operator

Welcome to the third-quarter 2018 Dine Brands Global earnings conference call. My name is Paulette and I will be your operator for today's call. [Operator Instructions]. Please note that this conference is being recorded. I will now turn the call over to Ken Diptee, Executive Director of Investor Relations. You may begin.

Ken Diptee

Analyst

Thank you. Good morning and welcome to Dine Brands' third-quarter 2018 conference call. I'm joined by Steve Joyce, CEO; Tom Song, CFO; Darren Rebelez, President of IHOP; and John Cywinski, President of Applebee's. Gregg Kalvin, Corporate Controller, will also be available for Q&A. Before the call, I'll turn over to -- before I turn the call over to Steve, please remember our Safe Harbor regarding forward-looking information. During the call, management may discuss information that is forward-looking and involves known and unknown risks, uncertainties and other factors, which may cause the actual results to be different than those expressed or implied. Please evaluate the forward-looking information in the context of these factors, which are detailed in today's press release and 10-Q filing. The forward-looking statements are as of today and assumes no obligation to update or supplement these statements. We may also refer to certain non-GAAP financial measures, which are described in our press release and also available on Dine Brands' Investor Relations website. With that, I'll now turn the call over to Steve.

Steve Joyce

Analyst

Thanks, Ken. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us. As you saw in our press release issued today, we delivered year-over-year growth across several key metrics, including total revenues, gross profit, adjusted EPS, comp sales at both brands, as well as adjusted free cash flow for the first nine months of 2018. Our highly franchised model continues to generate substantial free cash flow and at very healthy EBITDA margins. When I joined Dine Brands as CEO a little over a year ago, I knew this Company had untapped potential. I believed we had to execute on three strategic priorities to realize our full potential and position our strong brands for long-term success. Over the last 12 months, we focused on establishing a high performance, value-based culture, driving sustainable positive comp sales and traffic and importantly, returning Dine to a growth company. Today, I'm very pleased to say that we've made great progress on each of these priorities. We have a much more robust performance-based culture steeped in our values that places an emphasis on people and focuses on agility, accountability, continuous improvement and innovation. This enables us to adapt to an ever-changing market condition and the needs of our guests. We've made great strides in positive sales at both brands and taking share from the competition, which provides additional upside for us as we implement our daypart expansion strategy. In fact, this is the third consecutive quarter that both brands have outperformed their respective categories based on sales and traffic. I would like to highlight that Applebee's and IHOP were again ranked number one by Nation's Restaurant News in casual dining and family dining, respectively, for the 11th consecutive year based on domestic systemwide same-restaurant sales. This achievement is a testament to the commitment and hard work of…

Tom Song

Analyst

Thank you, Steve. Good morning, everyone. We are very pleased with the performance of our two strong brands this quarter, which drove double-digit growth in total gross profit. I'll briefly cover our financial performance for the third quarter before turning to our revised performance guidance. Adjusted EPS for the third quarter of 2018 increased by 56% to $1.53 compared to $0.98 for the same quarter last year. The increase was primarily due to higher gross profit from franchise operations and a decline in income taxes due to a lower corporate tax rate. The increase in gross profit was mainly due to a 7.7% increase in Applebee's comp sales, a decline in bad debt expense and IHOP unit growth over the last 12 months. These items were partially offset by any increase in G&A expenses. Total revenues for the third quarter of 2018 were approximately $194 million compared to approximately $175 million for the third quarter of last year. The 11% increase was primarily due to the impact of the higher advertising contribution rate of 4.25% on Applebee's advertising revenue, the increase in Applebee's comp sales previously mentioned and IHOP unit growth over the last 12 months. Just as a reminder, both third quarter 2018 and third quarter 2017 reflect the new revenue recognition accounting standard. Adjusted EBITDA margins for the third quarter of 2018, excluding advertising dollars, were a robust 50%. This compares to approximately 45% for the same quarter of last year. And when you look at this margin expansion sequentially, it was approximately 40% for the second quarter of 2018. Turning to our G&A. G&A in the third quarter was approximately $41 million compared to approximately $38 million for the third quarter of 2017. The increase was primarily due to higher cost of stock-based and other incentive compensation…

John Cywinski

Analyst

Thanks, Tom, and good morning, everyone. Applebee's momentum continues to accelerate as our plus 7.7% Q3 result represents our fourth consecutive quarter of positive comp sales growth. Of note is that each of the past four quarters has delivered sequential improvement resulting in a year-to-date comp sales increase of 5.5%. Importantly, the majority of our sustained growth is coming in the form of traffic. This organic growth reflects the enhanced relevance, appeal and health of the Applebee's brand. Now, these results also demonstrate our ability to steal share as we're consistently outperforming the casual dining, fast casual, family dining and QSR categories on both sales and traffic according to Black Box. We're proud of this performance as it represents the best sustained Applebee's sales and traffic performance in at least 14 years. Without question, I attribute this success to our resilient and passionate franchisees, their talented restaurant operators and the collaborative partnership they've established with our exceptional Applebee's team. Importantly, this leadership team has now been in place for more than a year and the trust, credibility and genuine belief they've established is truly impressive. Upon reflection, our turnaround has happened a bit faster than some anticipated and we're now on a path of stability and predictability. At this point, our franchisees have delivered 43 consecutive weeks of positive comp sales this year, a remarkable accomplishment in this mature and intensely competitive CDR category. And yes, positive momentum continues here in October. From a strategic perspective, Applebee's has returned to its roots. We have embraced our core DNA as the neighborhood place folks come to connect with family and friends and we remain fixated on restaurant-level excellence and guest satisfaction is our top priority. Progress against our brand standards is both consistent and comprehensive under the leadership of Chief Operations…

Darren Rebelez

Analyst

All right. Thank you, John, and good morning, everyone. I am pleased to report that IHOP's comp sales momentum continued into the third quarter, increasing 1.2% and marking the third consecutive period of comp sales growth. We've outperformed the family dining category every quarter this year based on sales and traffic according to Black Box data. We're confident that this trend is sustainable as we continue to execute against our broad-based strategy, which encompasses significantly enhancing the guest experience, running great restaurants, driving traffic and being where the guest is. An important part of our plan to drive sustainable positive sales and traffic is daypart expansion. We've changed the narrative about our lunch and dinner occasions. We've clearly proven that we can attract guests throughout the day, not just at breakfast. Since the launch of IHOP's highly innovative and all new Ultimate Steakburger platform in mid-June, our dinner daypart has delivered positive comp sales every week. We also experienced positive sales growth across the lunch and overnight dayparts. Our new lineup of Ultimate Steakburgers helped drive over 300 basis points of improvement in dinner daypart traffic in the third quarter of 2018 compared to third quarter of 2017. Having great tasting, quality burgers is how we breakout from the clutter and start to grow our business beyond breakfast while continuing to take share from the competition. Given the popularity of burgers and the extremely high quality burger that we've developed, we're very optimistic about the potential of this platform to drive additional share gains. IHOP's to-go business is an integral part of our long-term strategy to drive sustainable sales and traffic. This incremental sales channel is primarily driven by traffic and we've experienced very healthy growth. Let me provide you with some details. For the third quarter, to-go comp sales…

Steve Joyce

Analyst

Thanks, Darren. Well, you can see why we're so excited about the great progress we're making on Dine's transition to a growth company. While we were pleased with our third-quarter results, we recognize that there's more that can and will be done to drive sustainable, positive performance. We are confident we can build on the current momentum by staying the course on our long-term plans and further positioning Applebee's and IHOP to take advantage of the share gains in their respective categories. We remain focused on driving top-line growth and accelerating initiatives that will continue to differentiate our two category-leading brands. Now with that, I'd be pleased to open the call for questions. Operator?

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions]. Our first question comes from Stephen Anderson from Maxim Group. Please go ahead.

Stephen Anderson

Analyst

Just wanted to speak to Steve about the -- about loyalty and what you would -- what kind of a form this -- any kind of loyalty program would take and what kind of timetable you would suggest in trying to roll that out.

Steve Joyce

Analyst

Yes. We're not actually looking at a specific traditional loyalty program. What we are looking to do is to drive more loyalty through our system. Look, we have raving fanatics about these two brands, and so what we want to do is drive more frequency from those customers, so we're exploring alternatives how to do that. We do believe it's going to involve digital engagement in a big way, and so we are in the process of formulating what it is that will drive more frequency from our customers and drive loyalty and increase the dialogue between the two. The normal reaction of, well, we need to go to a points-based loyalty program, that's really not what we're looking for. We're looking for more engagement with our customers and a higher level of frequency, and so we're going to look at lots of different options that might drive that.

Stephen Anderson

Analyst

Okay. And just something unrelated, I wanted to ask about where you are in evaluating the potential for a third concept.

Steve Joyce

Analyst

Yes, so we obviously are very engaged in that. That's part of the reason we enhanced the level of the VFN. So we are currently in the process of evaluating lots of potential alternatives and we're beginning to have some dialogue. We don't have anything imminent to talk about, but our goal is to be able to add a brand within the next year to 18 months, and I'd say we're probably on track to do that.

Stephen Anderson

Analyst

All right, thank you.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Michael Gallo from CL King. Please go ahead.

Michael Gallo

Analyst

Steve, you mentioned in your prepared remarks some increased investments that you're making in R&D to drive more innovation, more new products. When do you expect we will be able to bear fruit from that? And how much are you investing this year? Should we think about that as kind of on an -- going to be at a stepped-up level on an ongoing basis? Or is that a number we should think of that will move up a little bit higher over time?

Steve Joyce

Analyst

Yes, let me -- I'll have Tom talk to the allocation of the dollars and what to expect in terms of the investment level. But the answer is relatively near term. We are testing several different programs that are going to do several things. First is reducing the friction points with the consumer. So there are things that we've talked about in the past that we're in restaurant testing and we're hoping to move quickly to roll out over the next, call it, within a year. But we're looking at things like pay at the table, obviously on your own device; tablets for the servers; being able to order ahead, meaning you can place your order, come to the restaurant, place your device on the table, order launches to the kitchen. So, and then you can change that order or add to it or pay on your own, on your own timetable or engage with a server. So what we're trying to do is give the customer and the guests in the restaurant more optionality. Our folks love engaging with our servers. Our servers love engaging with our guests, and so I don't think that's going to change in a big way, but what we're going to do is give our customers more optionality. In addition to that, we're using technology in the back of the house to reduce labor and to look at opportunities to save time and money. We've got several initiatives underway that John and Darren can talk to in some detail about what we're doing to improve margins in the restaurants, and that's been working really well. As you know, in a pretty tough margin environment, our margins are improving. So we are -- we believe that a lot of these investments will do several things for us. Every time we remove a friction point with a customer, it is going to involve digital engagement with the customer, which is going to give us information about the customer and the ability to communicate with them more. And on the other side, we believe we can make our restaurants more efficient. John and Darren, you want to talk a little bit about some of the efforts we've got in your individual restaurants?

Darren Rebelez

Analyst

Yes, sure. Yes, Michael, this is Darren. As I mentioned in my prepared remarks, we've launched the Rise 'N Shine 2.0, which is really geared around just what Steve said, removing the friction points from the guest experience. And so, the no wait wait-listing process allows for guests to put themselves on a wait list. As you're probably aware, we are on pretty significant waits on the weekends in particular. And so allowing the guest to have some predictability about when they'll be seated and arrive at the restaurant with less dwell time in the restaurant; really helps reduce defection from those guests that are waiting. The server tablets have really -- so far have improved speed and accuracy and help improve table turns and also improve the efficiency of the front of the house operation. And then paying at the table just really responds to a guest need for security and feeling confident that they don't have to give up their credit cards. In addition to that, it allows us to really engage on a more digital basis with our guests as we gather more information, and then we can reach out to them on a one-on-one basis. So, those are some of the things that we've got going on in the IHOP brand. John, you can comment on Applebee's.

John Cywinski

Analyst

Michael, the -- yes, we innovate on three fronts -- guest, operational, financial as Steve alluded to, from a financial perspective. In addition to all the great kind of innovation investments taking place on the guest front, we are looking at our P&Ls, our franchisees' P&Ls. And as we've discussed, both Darren and myself on prior calls, we engaged PwC late 2017. We are making meaningful progress in cost reduction both from a food standpoint and a labor standpoint in addition to our supply chain initiatives. Think of 100 basis points annually over the next two to three years. That's our target. Certainly have exceeded that in year one here in 2018 and expect the same moving forward.

Tom Song

Analyst

Mike, this is Tom. Let me just wrap up real quickly with your question on cost. So for 2018, we don't anticipate we're going to be exceeding what we had originally talked about with respect to IT investments. Having said that, as I alluded to, there is some shift in geography here. As we look -- we use agile development, as a lot of IT shops do. And so some of the projects that were reprioritized, as the year goes on, go from CapEx -- capitalization of development cost, and go to G&A in being expensed in the current year. And so that's really the only change in terms of the numbers here.

Michael Gallo

Analyst

Great. And the second question I have is for John on to-go. I think you mentioned Applebee's to-go sales are up 37% in the quarter. Can you remind us how many Applebee's stores had delivery to start the quarter, where that ended at the end of the quarter, and where you see that going over the next couple years? Because it strikes me that you still have a lot of the system that, at least at the beginning of the quarter, didn't even have delivery yet. Thanks.

John Cywinski

Analyst

That's accurate, Michael. An approximate 500 restaurant base at the moment on the way to 1,000 by year-end. We're somewhere in between that at the moment. Our primary focus remains to-go. And there are three components of our off-premise business: to-go, delivery and catering. Catering certainly is an emerging opportunity for the brand. Delivery represents incremental growth, but our primary near-term focus with our franchise partners is on the off-premise to-go business. And again, substantially outperforming the category. It's reasonable to expect the doubling of the off-premise business at Applebee's within the next three to four years. Our run rate is probably 2 to 3 times that growth rate of the CDR category at the moment according to Black Box. So we're well-positioned given our scale, our number of locations, our variety, our value positioning. We like the off-premise business.

Michael Gallo

Analyst

Great. Thanks.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Brian Vaccaro from Raymond James. Please go ahead.

Brian Vaccaro

Analyst

Just a couple topics I wanted to touch on. Starting with the Applebee's comps, just so I make sure I heard correctly. Obviously it's very encouraging to see the updated comp guidance implying the positive comps in the fourth quarter. And John, I just wanted to make sure I heard correctly. You said that comps remain positive in October?

John Cywinski

Analyst

Correct. Positive momentum; won't quantify that, Brian, but, yes, that's accurate.

Brian Vaccaro

Analyst

Okay. A quick one on Applebee's segment income and that franchise expense line specifically. Tom, I think you said bad debt expense was expected to be $7 million for the year, but I think the Q said your year-to-date bad debt expense was down around $10 million, $9.9 million I think. You saw a $9.9 million reduction in bad debt. So can you help square those two data points?

Tom Song

Analyst

Yes. So, one thing that might help is to think in isolation about the third quarter. So bad debt expense decreased over $3 million compared to the same period of last year. And so, for the first three quarters, we're talking about a $9.9 million -- so nearly $10 million decrease for the first three quarters as compared to the same period of last year. Does that help?

Brian Vaccaro

Analyst

So, I guess -- but we're still -- so what is -- I guess maybe just cut to the chase. What does that imply for bad debt expense in the fourth quarter? Because you said you expect that line to include $7 million of bad debt expense. You're saying that--

Tom Song

Analyst

Real small amount in the fourth quarter.

Brian Vaccaro

Analyst

Okay. Okay. So not much impact to reported franchise expense in the fourth quarter expected?

Tom Song

Analyst

That's correct.

Brian Vaccaro

Analyst

Okay, all right. And then on that updated franchise segment income guidance for the year, just wanted to quickly confirm. That does not include the impact of the acquisition you disclosed this morning of the 69 units, right?

Steve Joyce

Analyst

Does not.

Brian Vaccaro

Analyst

Okay, great. And then last one on that topic, I noticed also that the loans to franchisees increased to a little over $20 million from $14 million. Just to clear up any confusion, can you provide more color on those loans? And also how they impact your income statement as it relates to reported royalty collections and bad debt expense in the current quarter?

Tom Song

Analyst

So we don't comment on the allowance for doubtful accounts, but we have talked about this -- the various forms of assistance that we provide to franchisees, Brian. And so that's what this number that you're mentioning relates to. So some of the allowances have effectively been converted. We've worked with individual franchisees so that now there's in aggregate about the $22.5 million of these loans on payment plans outstanding, so we think this is, again, part of the process of working with these individual franchisees to come up with good solutions on what was otherwise an allowance in the past.

Steve Joyce

Analyst

But Brian, the way to think about, which is I think where you were going, is that does represent upside to us in those cases, in those fund to repay. We have greater certainty in terms of expectations going forward.

Tom Song

Analyst

And then the other thing you need to remember though is that that -- those loans would represent both advertising fund as well as royalties, so there's -- so one has an upside potential to the Company, one of them has an upside potential to the advertising fund.

Brian Vaccaro

Analyst

Yes, okay. All right, that's helpful. John, you mentioned seeing meaningful improvement in the Applebee's franchisee profitability. Could you ballpark where those store margins stand today on a run rate basis?

John Cywinski

Analyst

Brian, I didn't quantify that and just would resist doing so. Suffice it to say, if we were to look at today versus year ago, our franchisees, given their revenue growth, given their -- the stability in the business model, given the cost reduction on the P&L, are substantially better positioned to address their debt, their lease terms, their royalty and advertising payments. The brand is just so substantially more stable from a financial standpoint, and that includes individual franchisee unit economics.

Brian Vaccaro

Analyst

Okay. And then on this acquisition, the 69 units, can you give us a ballpark on the expected purchase price of those units, or any details on the performance of these units in terms of per-store sales volumes or store margins?

Steve Joyce

Analyst

Yes, so Brian, we're prepared to give detail on that transaction, but it's really premature until we close. As you know, we have an agreement, but as you and I both know, not all agreements close. When the agreements close and we're back together again, we will share information on obviously the impact that it'll have going forward. It will be a separate reported segment, so we'll be talking about it separately. And we'll give you an indication of what the capital requirements are, including purchase price and CapEx.

Brian Vaccaro

Analyst

All right, fair enough. And last one for me, on the G&A, the raised guidance midpoint, $160 million. I understand personnel costs are up as you build out the teams and infrastructure, but could you help us understand how much there is in that line this year of nonrecurring legal costs? Or just thinking about at a base level of G&A, you said that at the Analyst Day back in February, had to think about that line. Can you maybe help us recast that -- give an update on that?

Tom Song

Analyst

Yes, no, good question. I already mentioned one of the items that represented some of the reprioritization of IT projects. Some of these projects at the beginning of the year might have been thought of as being development -- internally developed software that now, as the year progresses, the team has decided to prioritize things that run through G&A expense. So that's about a third of it. Another third is the incentive compensation that you had mentioned. And some of the incentive compensation -- as you know, with all public companies, relates to stock price. We've had pretty good performance year-to-date on stock price, so that requires an accrual. That goes through incentive comp. Something that, again, if you look back to the beginning of the year, you make some good estimates on this stuff, and you sometimes have some good outperformance. It's a good thing. And then finally, as you mentioned, there are some legal expenses that weren't necessarily anticipated earlier in the year that will run through the balance of the year. So, those three are really the main categories. They are roughly a third and a third and a third, roughly, each, on the G&A uptick.

Steve Joyce

Analyst

So Brian, I think you characterized the piece on the personnel as an additional investment. It's not. It's related to incentive comp.

Brian Vaccaro

Analyst

Okay.

Steve Joyce

Analyst

It will be what it is every year. So it just so happened the stock price has performed well, therefore the incentive comp is up for the team.

Brian Vaccaro

Analyst

Understood. Okay. Thanks very much.

Operator

Operator

I will now turn the call over to Steve Joyce for closing comments.

Steve Joyce

Analyst

Great. Well, thank you again for your time today. We are scheduled to report results for the fourth quarter on February 21, so we look forward to speaking with you then and sharing our further progress. Have a great day.

Operator

Operator

Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. This concludes today's conference. Thank you for participating and you may now disconnect.