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DHI Group, Inc. (DHX)

Q1 2019 Earnings Call· Sun, May 5, 2019

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Operator

Operator

Good afternoon. My name is Josh and I will be your conference operator today. At this time I would like to welcome everyone to the Q1 2019 DHI Group Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] Thank you. Todd Kehrli with MKR Investor Relations, you may begin.

Todd Kehrli

Analyst

Thank you, operator, good afternoon, and welcome to the DHI Group's First Quarter Fiscal 2019 Financial Results Conference Call. With me on today's call are DHI's CEO, Art Zeile; and Chief Financial Officer, Luc Grégoire. Before I turn the call over to Art, I'd like to cover a few quick items. This afternoon, DHI issued a press release announcing its first quarter fiscal 2019 financial results. That release is available on the company's website at dhigroupinc.com. This call is being broadcast live over the Internet for all interested parties, and the webcast will be archived on the Investor Relations page of the company's website. I'd like to remind everyone that on today's call, management will make forward-looking statements that involve risks and uncertainties. Please note that except for the historical information, statements on this call may constitute forward-looking statements within the meaning of section 21E of the Securities and Exchange Act of 1934. When used, the words anticipates, believes, expects, intends, future and other similar expressions identify forward-looking statements. These forward-looking statements reflect management's current views with respect to future events and financial performance and are subject to risks and uncertainties, and actual results may differ materially from the outcomes contained in any forward-looking statements. Factors that could cause these forward-looking statements to differ from actual results include delays in development, marketing or sales and other risks and uncertainties discussed in the company's periodic reports on Form 10-K and 10-Q and other filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. DHI undertakes no obligation to update or revise any forward-looking statements. Lastly, during today's call, management will be referring to certain financial measures, including adjusted revenues, adjusted EBITDA and adjusted EBITDA margin, which are not prepared in accordance with U.S. GAAP. Information about and reconciliations of these non-GAAP measures to the most directly comparable GAAP measures are available in our earnings release, which is posted on our website at www.dhigroupinc.com in the Investor Relations section. I now turn the call over to Art Zeile, CEO of DHI Group.

Art Zeile

Analyst

Thank you, Todd. Good afternoon, everyone. And welcome to our first quarter fiscal 2019 earnings conference call. We appreciate your interest in DHI. We are pleased to report another quarter of improved financial results, highlighted by year-over-year growth in our ongoing tech-focused revenue. This is a significant milestone because it's the first time that our revenue has grown in several years. At the same time, we continue to deliver solid adjusted EBITDA margins at 23%, a sequential increase of one percentage point. We have done so, while also investing in and launching a new commercial sales team to accelerate revenue growth. As these results demonstrate, we continue to see the positive effects of the sales, marketing and other operational changes we made over the past year as part of the strategic transformation of our business. We have simultaneously strengthened our leadership team with the addition of a new Chief Product Officer, a new Chief Marketing Officer and most recently, a new Chief Technology Officer and Chief Strategy Officer. We have the right team in place to execute on our growth strategy. Now let's talk about some of the progress we made during the first quarter. As I told you, we rolled out a dedicated commercial accounts team to accelerate our efforts to attract new direct hire customers, those customers that have their own internal recruiting teams. These efforts have already resulted in many new customer wins for Dice. Prior to my joining DHI a little over a year ago, the company was focused on maintaining its existing customer base and put little emphasis on customer acquisition. I believe we need to do both in good measure to grow successfully. With the positive results we are already seeing from our commercial accounts team, we intend to incrementally add resources in 2019…

Art Zeile

Analyst

Thanks Luc. I'd like to close by once again thanking all our employees around the world for their hard work and achievement of our revenue growth milestone. With your focus and commitment, we have begun 2019 with incredible momentum. It is a pleasure to be part of such a great team. And with that, we're happy to take your questions.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Your first question comes from Marc Wiesenberger with B. Riley FBR.

Marc Wiesenberger

Analyst

Can you talk about some of the digital marketing strategies that you guys are employing? And how they're resonating with some of their respective cohorts?

Art Zeile

Analyst

Yes, I would say that in general, we have a number of different digital marketing strategies, and they would fall into the channels of paid search, SEO, e-mail campaigns and social and also affiliate campaigns. And so what we have done mostly in the past is focused on one channel specifically, affiliate campaigns, and we've now been able to broaden to all those other channels successfully with the help of an agency that we selected as a result of an RFP process over the last six months. And so we're seeing some really early signs that, that agency has made a big difference, and especially with regard to paid search. That agency came on board quite literally the 1st of February, so in the middle of the first quarter. We would expect to see their impact grow over the course of this year, 2019.

Marc Wiesenberger

Analyst

With respect to the impact of IntelliSearch, can you quantify that on the search activity within Dice or provide some more clarity there?

Art Zeile

Analyst

So we've taken our customers through a migration to IntelliSearch in waves. And we've done that out of conservatism, quite frankly, to make sure that the platform itself could manage the throughput. And there have been a total of 6 waves to date. In each one of those waves, we've measured the usage activity of that customer cohort before the change and after. So we have seen, in general, a double-digit increase across all of those waves. Some of those waves have seen 25% to 30% increase in utilization. And I believe it's because we're making the recruiters' jobs easier. The way that I like to describe it when I talk to customers is that if you have IntelliSearch, you're putting an entire job posting into the search area, the search field, which gives a different experience, very different from that of our competitors, which usually ask you to just put in a job title and a location. When you're putting an entire job posting, you essentially get more information to work with and a lot of skills information. So the recruiters get a short list of 10 to 20 very relevant candidates instead of 4,000 hits that say that you have a Java developer in Denver or a PHP developer in Boston. And truly, we have found recruiters want to have a shorter list of more relevant candidates to work with than have a really long list, where they have to sift through the resumes and try to make sense of them.

Marc Wiesenberger

Analyst

I know you talked about the performance-based pricing. Can we get some kind of expectations on potential uplift maybe throughout the year? Or - and you how see that maybe driving some incremental revenue growth?

Art Zeile

Analyst

Absolutely. So it's pretty early stage for us to make any kind of forecast predictions, but I can tell you that we've rolled out pay-per-view to both Dice and eFC this first quarter, and we primarily used it as a tool for new customer engagement. We have used it less so for purposes of essentially renewals. But there are certain circumstances where we pitch the idea of pay-per-view when we believe that that'll be revenue accretive. What we have seen so far in the number of logos that - the number of customers that have essentially taken that format is that it has been net-net revenue accretive for us. So we do believe that it's going to impact revenue positively over the course of 2019, but it's a little bit too early to predict what that means on a percentage or an actual dollar basis.

Marc Wiesenberger

Analyst

I think previously, you've talked about the Matchback program and one of your initiatives to try to be able to show recruiters that you are adding value and get that attribution to helping place candidates. Have you had any more success with that program? And as well as being able to quantify attribution for recruiters?

Art Zeile

Analyst

Yes, in fact, we're constantly evolving that program. And the way that I would describe it is that it was originated in eFinancialCareers, and specifically with our Asia PAC region. So think of it as working with the larger banks in Hong Kong and Singapore. And we have had that program in place for over a year now. We have encouraged multiple customers to use Matchback and have done that successfully, shown it - shown the value of the eFinancial platform to those customers. We are now moving that to Dice. And so really the prototype has been proven by eFinancialCareers in specifically that region, and we're trying to spread it to the rest of our 3 platforms. But I can - suffice to say that if the - in the cases where we have actually run the Matchback experience and program with these customers, we've shown tremendous value.

Marc Wiesenberger

Analyst

In addition to the $7 million stock purchase plan that was put in place, can you talk about some of the priorities with regards to capital allocation and uses of cash going forward? Luc Grégoire: Yes, this is something we've consistently talked about, and our capital allocation strategy really hasn't changed. We want to continue to support the company's turnaround. And beyond that, I think near term, we would continue to pay down our revolver. Given the revolver nature of it, we can always bring back the liquidity that comes in that. And then we are looking - we've been focused mostly on reinforcing our core internally, but to the extent we could find some opportunities externally that would help us accelerate our strategy, we would keep some for that. And then should we have it - that excess identified, then we would go - we'd probably consider returning capital to shareholders. So that's - basically we've been consistent with that. This is much more an efficiency play for us given where the stock price is, and to help us offset the dilution of stock comp.

Marc Wiesenberger

Analyst

And I guess just one more from me, kind of big picture. As you think about the evolution of all 3 platforms, is there any technology out in the marketplace that excites you and that you might want to look to integrate that can be leveraged across the platforms? And I don't mean necessarily a large acquisition, but kind of very targeted technology that would kind of enhance what you're already doing well or provide you a differentiated approach?

Art Zeile

Analyst

So that's a great question. And I can tell you, Marc, that what I believe is the real core competency that we have as a company is our data model that basically categorizes over 100,000 different technology skills. And what's happening behind the scenes when a client does a job posting search for candidates or a candidate is looking for jobs that are relevant for their career is that we're going deep into that data model and matching skills. And in a typical job posting in the technology world, there would be like 20 to 30 different skills, and we're just at the tip of the iceberg, in my opinion, of building and evermore elegant model to get deeper and deeper in understanding technology skills, understanding the nature of the job posting requirements in more detail. So anything that helps us from an AI perspective, a data science perspective, really getting into that nature of understanding skills at a depth even beyond what we've noted today would be really intriguing to us. Now when I say that, I can tell you that we also have had a very mature data science team in place for 7 to 8 years that have been working on that model. So if we find that really unique opportunity, I'd like to engage with that particular company and understand whether or not they could be a partner or acquisition candidate, but we do have a very mature data model as it stands today.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from Josh Vogel with Sidoti & Company.

Josh Vogel

Analyst · Sidoti & Company.

I guess my first question is, we saw the number of recruitment package customers decline by 100 sequentially, now that's after several quarters of flattening out around 6,200. I was just wondering if this was mostly because of the move you made or the moves you're making to the sub-segment of clients to pay-per-view? Luc Grégoire: Yes. I'd say, actually, we see this as a stable point. There is some seasonality in our business, and the biggest book of renewal happens in the fourth quarter and the first quarter. And we still have - we do have 20% churn, so that creates a bigger bug. But if you compare that to last year, you could see that in the earnings release that the metrics are there. We were down 250 sequentially last year. So now this year, because we round these numbers, we're actually down about 60. So we view that as a significant improvement on that trend and expect to be back in that 6,100, 6,200 level for the near term.

Art Zeile

Analyst · Sidoti & Company.

And we also - look, Josh, at the lower-level information associated with the size of those customers, the type of industries. And I'm actually encouraged because we didn't lose any very large customers. As we're all aware, the SMB part of the customer universe is one where the customers might actually leave the part - the relationship for reasons that are completely unrelated to the value of the product. It could just be a failed business or they might be cutting back on expenses, a number of different reasons. But the customers that we saw - the 60 approximate customers that left were relatively small in nature. And we're always looking to improve the quality of the customer base, not just the quantity.

Josh Vogel

Analyst · Sidoti & Company.

Art, you've talked in the past about several white spaces and opportunities for growth. And I was wondering if maybe you could delve into some of these again, maybe update us as to where you are with regards to some of these opportunities. I know about the - we know about the commercial accounts, even direct hire, maybe, for example, pursuing government contracts directly and any other opportunities that you deem as white spaces.

Art Zeile

Analyst · Sidoti & Company.

Absolutely. In fact, obviously, there's a different story for each one of our brands. I do believe that for Dice, the biggest two white-space opportunities are to bring the platform to parity with CJ's capabilities, ClearanceJobs' capabilities, to make it a true career marketplace, but in addition to that, to really get more specialization in terms of our sales efforts, and that is what the commercial accounts team really represents. We will incrementally grow that team over the course of this year as we see more and more success. For eFinancialCareers, again, the platform being brought to the same level of capability as ClearanceJobs is priority number 1. But Luc expressed that we're seeing really positive growth trends in the Asia-Pacific region of our eFinancialCareers platform. They're double-digit growth trends. And we basically attend to the very top-tier banks in both Hong Kong, Singapore, in that region generally. We're actually moving to the second-tier banks because we feel like there's a lot more of those numerically. They're relationships that we really never attended to historically. We're actually adding people to those sales teams in that region. For ClearanceJobs, obviously, they've sustained 20%-plus growth year-over-year for multiple quarters. They're doing a wonderful job. They're led by a gentleman that is named Evan Lesser, who has been a product visionary in this market. We have really never attended to the government space, and that is to say that less than 1% of our revenues for ClearanceJobs come from contracts with government agencies. Last year, we essentially hired a consultant to look at and map out the government agencies and understand more about their hiring needs for technology professionals. We prioritized those agencies. This year, that same consultant is helping us opening doors in the form of meetings and start to put together proof-of-concepts to test the system within the government - within the federal government. So I think we're going to see some level of success, we're hopeful that we're going to have some level of success by building relationships with direct government customers for ClearanceJobs over the course of 2019.

Josh Vogel

Analyst · Sidoti & Company.

We've seen other companies discuss the environment overseas, where their clients are basically sitting on their hands, waiting for Brexit to play out. So business activity and hiring in general have slowed in prior quarters. So as Brexit or the idea of Brexit continues to get pushed back, are you seeing any impact on your eFC business, in particular? I'm curious of what the average dialogue sounds like with your clients over there. Are they just starting to say forget about Brexit, let's just get back to business as usual?

Art Zeile

Analyst · Sidoti & Company.

I would say that we're still seeing some amount of headwind for the U.K. market specifically. But we attend to multiple markets in Europe, and in fact, we have an office in Frankfurt. So there's been a pickup of activity in Frankfurt and other geographies like Paris, France. With the U.K., I would say the headwinds are balanced against a macro theme that the banks have very difficult times convincing technology professionals to come on board. So they still need help with regard to that and the recruitment activity around technologists is still very high. With that said, there's no question that the sales team says, "Hey, a lot of people are taking a slower approach right now to the way that they're looking at the sales cycle." So I think that it is valid for the U.K. market.

Josh Vogel

Analyst · Sidoti & Company.

And then just a couple quick ones for Luc. Recently or last quarter - or for 2018, you discussed some liberalization of customer terms, which impacted, I think, like deferred revenue and accounts receivable, is that fully adjusted now? And with regards to those items, just expect to get back to normal cash flow trends? Luc Grégoire: Yes, I think that we've cycled through. The end of 2017 into '18 is where we saw a big slowing down, and we went from 96% of our annual contracts selected up front to about 83%, 80%, and that's held at that point. So a year later - and you can see that if you look at our financial statements. You'll see that we're actually showing higher deferred revenues, higher receivables at the end of the first quarter than we did at the end of the year. If you look at it last year, you'd see the opposite flow, and that's the reflection of the adjustments. So I think the working capital is adjusted. That cash - when you look at the cash flow, same thing. If you look at the cash earnings, they've been pretty steady and we really expect to get back to our 70%, 80% of adjusted EBITDA in terms of operating cash flow generation going forward.

Josh Vogel

Analyst · Sidoti & Company.

And just lastly, outside of those discrete tax items, should we expect the tax rate over the balance of the year to be in line with your commentary from - following 2018 results, like in the mid-20% range? Luc Grégoire: Yes, we've mentioned we expect 25%, we still expect that, except for obviously, you get these discrete tax items, which are noncash. You set up the benefit on a noncash basis and it adjusts on a noncash basis. So from that standpoint, I think it - the 25% is still your good measuring stick.

Operator

Operator

There are currently no further questions at this time. I'll turn the call back to Todd Kehrli for closing remarks.

Todd Kehrli

Analyst

Thank you, operator, and thank you everyone for your interest in DHI Group. If you'd like to schedule a meeting with management, please e-mail ir@dhigroupinc.com or call us at 212-448-4181. This concludes today's call. Thanks for joining and have a great day.