Jim Kamsickas
Analyst · Barclays.
That's great questions. A lot to unpack there, but I'll do my best. The way I see it, first of all, in terms of the volumes, I absolutely follow the same commentary that you follow as it relates to that. But at least from our line of sight, at least in the truck business, and I think we have to remind ourselves of that quite regularly. Truck business versus car business is two different things, right? And at least from the truck business and where we see electrification going, at least from our line of sight with our customers, I think they see it going as well. It still is nothing but green shoots and positive. So I'm not trying to market a positive story there. That's just the facts as I see it based on a bunch of other data points. As it relates to running the company and how Dana operates as well, the beauty of the way we've set the company up, as you know, over the last 6 to 7, 8 years is this leverage the core strategy the priority of the enterprise strategy is to leverage not only people capacity, but also equipment capacity and engineering capacity and so on and so forth. And a lot of our products and components and so on and so forth, we will be able to balance, I'll call it almost like balancing a line balance in a plant, you can line balance your capacities for all the things I just referred to. -- protect the company and actually benefit the company moving forward. So maybe you weren't going so directly down that the way I see it is there's plenty of opportunity for us to move forward, and we're very bullish that there's going to continue to be the same balance, if I can remind the audience perhaps the same balance on axles being in-house versus outsourced. There's going to be some form of balance of that for years to come. And what's the important point to remind everybody, it's been that way for decades. There's plenty of axle business that's been in-house across end markets in the past. There'll be plenty of that in the future. But there will be plenty on the outside because there's plenty of use cases, companies such as Dana that has such a reputation and capability, especially in areas such as the off-road enthusiast market, the truck business, truck business and the commercial vehicle segments, the consumers and dealers in the fleets. I mean, they don't just pick us because we're a commodity. They pick us because we help them sell trucks. So that's not, in my view, is not going to change. If anything, we're going to benefit from it. Because of what we've done in electrification. We're not guessing at it. We've been doing it now 3, 4, 5 years in production. So I feel very strong about it.