Operator
Operator
Good day, and welcome to the CoreCivic's Second Quarter 2018 Earnings Conference Call. Today's conference is being recorded. At this time, I would like to turn the call over to Cameron Hopewell. Sir, please go ahead.
CoreCivic, Inc. (CXW)
Q2 2018 Earnings Call· Thu, Aug 9, 2018
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Operator
Operator
Good day, and welcome to the CoreCivic's Second Quarter 2018 Earnings Conference Call. Today's conference is being recorded. At this time, I would like to turn the call over to Cameron Hopewell. Sir, please go ahead.
Cameron Hopewell
Management
Thanks, Travis. Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and thank you for joining our call. Participating on the call are Damon Hininger, President and Chief Executive Officer; and David Garfinkle, Chief Financial Officer. During today's call, our remarks, including our answers to your questions, will include forward-looking statements pursuant to the safe harbor provisions of the Private Securities and Litigation Reform Act. Our actual results or trends may differ materially as a result of a variety of factors, including those identified in our first quarter 2018 earnings release and in our SEC filings, including forms 10-K, 10-Q and 8-K reports. You are also cautioned that any forward-looking statements reflect management's current view only and that the company undertakes no obligation to revise or update such statements in the future. On this call, we will also discuss certain non-GAAP measures. A reconciliation of the most comparable GAAP measurement is provided in our corresponding earnings release and included in the supplemental financial data that we provide on our Investors page of our website at corecivic.com. With that, it's my pleasure to turn the call over to our President and CEO, Damon Hininger.
Damon Hininger
President and CEO
Thank you, Cameron, and good morning, and thank you to everyone for joining our second quarter 2018 conference call today. We are also joined here in the room by our Vice President of Finance, Brian Hammonds. CoreCivic is a diversified real estate investment trust specialized in delivering government real estate solutions to serve the public goods. We are the country's largest owner of government-leased real estate assets, with nearly a 100 facilities totaling over 17 million square foot of real estate and a 35 years of history of delivering a broad range of solutions to help solve tough government challenges in a flexible, cost effective ways. Our assets generate a consistent cash flow stream underwritten by investment grade government tenants. We have three primary business segments that focus on corrections and detention facility ownership and management, a growing network of residential reentry centers that help address the America's recidivism prices and ownership of mission critical government leased real estate. Our safety segment includes 51 correctional and detention facilities with a design capacity of 72,833 beds. Our community segment includes 26 residential reentry facilities with a design capacity of 5,214 beds. In our property segment, taking into account recent acquisitions includes 25 facilities representing over 1.5 million square feet of real estate. Over all of our segments, we have active agreements with over 125 government agencies which provides meaningful diversification not only in assets we own, but also significant diversification in our customer base. To briefly summarize, our second quarter financial performance. We exceeded the high end of our guidance with normalized FFO of $0.57 per share. Our adjusted EBITDA in the second quarter of $97.5 million significantly exceeded the high-end of our second quarter guidance of $93.4 million and grew from the $92.1 million in the first quarter of 2018…
Dave Garfinkle
CFO
Thank you, Damon and good morning, everyone. In the second quarter, we generated $0.36 of adjusted EPS compared to our guidance range of $0.33 to $0.35 and $0.02 ahead of the first call consensus estimate. Normalized FFO totaled $0.57 per share compared to our guidance range of $0.53 to $0.55 and $0.02 ahead of the first quarter consensus estimate. AFFO totaled $0.55 per share compared to our guidance range of $0.50 to $0.52. Adjusted EBITDA was $5.1 million higher than the mid-point of our guidance for the second quarter reflecting strong operating performance. Q2 2018 adjusted amounts exclude charges of a $1 million associated with the amendment extension of our credit facility executed in April, $800,000 of M&A expenses and $1.6 million of asset impairments while Q2 2017 adjusted amounts exclude $300,000 of M&A expenses. Our financial performance succeeded forecast partly due to higher federal populations in our course of exceeded key portfolio. Notably, our per share results exceeded expectations even though we retain staff at our 2672 bed Tallahatchie County Correction Facility in Mississippi longer than previously anticipated as our prior guidance contemplated the complete phase out by California beds facility by June 30th. While our California did impact transfer all 1300 inmates out of this facility we retained staff throughout the quarter while we negotiated with a number of potential new customers to ensure a smooth transition with experienced staff if we were able to secure one or more new contracts. On June 14, 2018, we announced a new contract U.S. Marshall Service to care for up to 1350 offenders at this facility, essentially replacing the vacancy of California populations with the ability to utilize additional beds subject to availability. At June 30, 2018, we also cared for 200 additional offenders at the Tallahatchie facility under new contracts…
Damon Hininger
President and CEO
Thank you, Dave. Now before I open the call up for Q&A, I would like to take this opportunity to discuss recent coverage of federal immigration policies in order to clarify the valued, but limited role CoreCivic plays in the country's immigration system. While we know, this is a highly charged emotional issue for many people, much of the information about our company being shared by special interest groups is outright wrong and politically motivated, resulted in many reaching misguided conclusions about what we do. To be clear, none of our facilities provide housing for children who aren't in the supervision, under the supervision of a parent. The only facility of ours that houses children is our South Texas Family Residential Center, a facility that was built in 2014 with a family residential mission at the request of President Barack Obama's administration to help the country address a humanitarian crisis along the South West border, which is intended to maintain family unity, while federal authorities conducted initial steps of the asylum termination process. At no point in time do we house minor children in absence of the child's parent. Additionally, CoreCivic does not advocate for or against legislation or policies that determine the basis for or duration of an individual's detention. We do not enforce immigration laws or policies or have any say whatsoever in the individual's deportation or release. CoreCivic does not know the circumstances of individuals when they are placing their facility and our responsibility is to care for each person respectfully and humanely while they receive the legal due process they're entitled too. Our ICE facilities are under consistent operational oversight and held accountable to federal performance based national detention standards. And in the case of our South Texas Family Residential Center, we are also held accountable to federal family residential standards. Each and every one of our ICE facilities are required undergo regular review and on procedures and we are proud of our operation performance. The fact is our sole job is to help the government solve problems in ways it could not do alone. To help manage unprecedented humanitarian crisis, dramatically improve the standard of care for several people and meet other critical needs efficiently and innovatively. We have done this same mission for more than 35 years working with both Democrat and Republican administrations to operate to two facilities for ICE and as predecessor Immigration and Naturalization Service, an agency that was founded in 1933. CoreCivic's very first contract was with INS at our Houston Processing Center, a contract we still have to this day because of the quality of service we have provided to the federal government for more than three decades. Having set the record straight on this often-misrepresented topic, I'll turn the call over to our operators to open the lines for questions.
Operator
Operator
Yes, sir. [Operator Instructions]. Our first question comes from Tobey Sommer SunTrust.
Tobey Sommer
Analyst
Thank you. With respect to occupancies. First topic, I'd like to ask you a question about. It sounds like you think you can hold the games year-over-year. And I'm curious Damon where you think occupancy can be in maybe not just 12 months, but 24 months? Thank you.
Damon Hininger
President and CEO
Absolutely Tobey. Thank you very much for your question. So, as you know we've got about 10,000 beds and kind of round numbers for idle facilities about 3000 beds and facilities that are partially utilized. And I think if we think about kind of the line of sight that we've got with existing facilities for partially utilized which we've talked about before, Puerto Rico from kind of active opportunities plus the couple of that are off-market. And then also kind of mid to near-term with BOP and CAR XIX and some other activities we see at the federal level. We think there is a path to north of 90% occupancy within the CoreCivic Safety portfolio. We've got two or three facilities kind of look at a different way. two or three facilities that have probably near-term don't have any marketing opportunities notably with Minnesota, with our first facility, our Commerce City [ph] in Colorado and our Torrent [ph] facility. All three of them are being marketed could be opportunities, but I don't see anything probably the next prior to 6 to 12 months. But if you back out those three facilities occupancies potentially could be in the CoreCivic Safety kind of in the 90% to 95% range. So, hopefully that gives you kind of least - kind of indication of what potential opportunity could be over the next 24 months.
Tobey Sommer
Analyst
It does. Thank you. And as a follow-up with respect to changes in occupancy. What's a good rule of thumb for what each point in occupancy to mean for profitability metrics, whether it's EBITDA or FFO per share. And I know there are some variability as to contract per DM who the customers, the location et cetera. But any kind of ranges that you can give us there?
Dave Garfinkle
CFO
Yeah, Tobey. This is Dave. But you've raised kind of the multiple variables that go into that calculation whether the facility is going to be an owned and managed facility, whether it's going to be leased facilities generally lower EBITDA. And I would use probably EBITDA is probably the easiest calculation. But while a 1% increase in our occupancy we've got about 78,000 beds so that be about 780 offenders. If you apply the average margin in Q2 which we posted on our supplemental disclosure report on our website, so Q2 the average margin was $20.18. So, if you apply that $20.18 to 780 offenders that would be about $5 million to $6 million of additional EBITDA. Obviously, the number will be lower if you're activating a facility and its underutilized because you'll have lower margins as opposed to higher facility when utilization is maximized. So, if the 1% is coming from a facility RE operation, let's just say that, the number could be up to twice as much of that, a $10 million to $12 million.
Tobey Sommer
Analyst
Thank you. And wanted to kind of switch topics and talk about per DMs which were up. Could you talk about the trends that are allowing that to happen and whether or not you see momentum there continuing. Thanks.
Damon Hininger
President and CEO
Absolutely, Tobey, this is Damon. So, I'll tackle that one and I'll give you two observations. The first one is just generally we're seeing state budgets improve throughout this country and notably with our partner agreement that we have with about a dozen various states. And so, with that the discussions that we've had during this spring have been very, very encouraging and good support there to not only give us an increase but with that saying, we're going to raise ours as appropriate because of the trends we're seeing in the labor market and so that'd be my second point. The labor market being a business where we work with customers who do this themselves they're obviously feeling pressures like we are with the labor market and so we're somewhat aligned very aligned I should say with our state partners on the corrections leadership when we go to the legislature and others to talk about fund increases because increases that we have in our contracts and have built some of those pressure on labor side they're looking also for increases on the safe side just to deal with public employee that are feeling the same type of labor pressures with the most respective jurisdictions.
Tobey Sommer
Analyst
Okay.
Damon Hininger
President and CEO
Tobey, actually one more thing is that we went back I didn't say on my script when we went back probably a 5,6 maybe 7 years where we've had this type of kind of positive movement on escalators on our state contracts.
Tobey Sommer
Analyst
Okay. And do you think that is there I think does the economy holds up do you think there'd be an opportunity for it's kind of an above recent average increase next budget cycle?
Damon Hininger
President and CEO
I would say it's probably going to be, they're pretty close in line with CPI so I think yeah you got to get some jurisdictions if you got a little more tightness and maybe more activity on the labor market than others then you maybe a little above the average but I think generally if I think about the whole portfolio it's probably in line with CPI.
Dave Garfinkle
CFO
Yeah, and most state budget's years begin July 1st, so we've already seen those in Q3 obviously we reported those but as Damon mentioned it was as good year we've seen as in many years for appropriations getting funded for CPI increases.
Tobey Sommer
Analyst
Okay. I was wondering if you could comment on the M&A pipeline the amount of activity you're seeing at the property or deal sizes changing?
Damon Hininger
President and CEO
Absolutely. This is Damon again. So, I would say continues to increase, the amount of activity that our folks internally are bringing us whether it's a deal opportunities, I'd say it is generally continuing to increase during the course of the year and so just kind of give you a sense of size, we've looked at portfolios where we got multiple properties of course as large as 15 so up to 15 properties in a portfolio and we've looked at kind of transaction size in kind of the range of $10 million to $20 million kind of on a low end up to $0.5 billion, in fact kind of near-term we're looking at some opportunities that are in a range of kind of $50 million to $250 million. So those are very active market. And as you know we've gotten some opportunities at the federal level, but also the state level and we think that there is obviously a few players that the federal level looking at these assets, but as the state and local level we don't think there is much competition, so we think good opportunity kind of mine per value for some of these opportunities and bring a lot of expertise to the tables owners.
Tobey Sommer
Analyst
Thank you. Dave, I think you mentioned something about potential incremental 2019 impact from recent contract wins and in the ramping of those, what is the knowable kind of incremental impact from those for next year in terms of FFO?
Dave Garfinkle
CFO
Well the knowable ones are the United States Marshall Service and Tallahatchie that was a $0.06 to $0.10 FFO per share increased for a full year basis. Then we've got the new contract with federal government at La Palma that's going to be offset by the decline at La Palma. So, those populations and that's what we estimate to be 1000 inmates or detainees at La Palma from the federal government that would be replacing at the beginning of this year 3000 California inmates. So that's probably a net negative unless we're able to enter into new contracts and Damon talked about some of those opportunities that we're very optimistic of getting that could be incremental to La Palma. Obviously, Ohio and Lee Adjustment Center, two contracts really stabilize occupancy capped out on those contracted capacities in the second quarter. So those will be a full year impact in 2019. I think those are probably the most notable.
Tobey Sommer
Analyst
Okay. The shifting gears to Puerto Rico. You talked about the savings. There have been some media reports that you are front runner for the initial phase, I was wondering if you could speak to that and what the likelihood is for Puerto Rico to execute kind of the full scope of the contract as they've articulated, it's a bigger number than the initial challenge?
Damon Hininger
President and CEO
Very good, Tobey. This is Damon again. Thank you for this question. Yes, so Puerto Rico, let me answer maybe the last half first, we think that there is a real, real need for this solution. Puerto Rico has had some fits and starts in the past as they thought about solutions off the island, but we think the timeline they've laid out from the first part of year to the issuance of the procurement, some of the public statements made by the governor and other leadership within the Commonwealth, and the timeline they followed, I should say, also with the procurement with the due date, with the tour facilities. They have kept pretty close to that timetable. So, it's kind of back to the first point. We think this is a real opportunity and a real need and a really great way we can provide a great solution for them, as you all know as you know, I should say, Tobey, it's just been really challenging for the Commonwealth, now for their fiscal situation, but also with these recent hurricanes and how it's really put a lot of stress on their infrastructure. So, we're in active discussions with Puerto Rico. We think are we are well-positioned for really two key reasons. One is, we know Puerto Rico really well. We've been working with them off and on over the last 20 plus years, both on the island and off the island. And so, we think we bring a lot of expertise to the table. And then the second thing is that since I do want to move fairly quickly, we think and pass it is that we've got available two day, where we could ramp up, immediately puts us in a great competitive advantage. So, we're hopeful. Again, a discussion has been very positive. We think that the urgency and the need is really there. And we also know that they're looking at our other jurisdictions where we do work. These last 18 months where we've gotten these five new state contracts, those haven't happened by accident, because we've provided really good high quality, great programmatic solutions to the government partners. And so, when you get five new agreements, people like Puerto Rico and Vermont, they're talking to those folks and how the experience been and so we think that also has been working to our advantage with this momentum we've got on the safe side. So, stay tuned. We are in active discussions and hopeful that they move forward here reporting of the year [ph].
Tobey Sommer
Analyst
Okay. Two last questions for me and thank you for taking them. One on the replacement bed opportunity. Are there any characteristics of the Kansas arrangement that might change or be different in the replacement conversations that you're having now? In personally, I'm kind of I have one in mind? Is it possible that the company CoreCivic could retain long-term ownership? And then my last question is with respect to BOP inmate populations. Do you think they're going to increase over the next couple of years? Thanks.
Damon Hininger
President and CEO
Absolutely, totally. So, this is Damon again let me, I'll tackle both of those. So, the first one to your question on other jurisdictions looking at kind of Kansas like solutions. Yeah, everyone is going to be very different when they we've learned in our travels around the country and marketing the solution to places like Alabama and Vermont, Wyoming and Kansas some of the jurisdictions are talking publicly about a need for this replacement capacity. Every jurisdiction is different and some of the pressures and challenges and constraints they have not only on the project itself, but also the lease and how they lease those facilities we think are going to be very different. So, our view is, let's get in front of these jurisdictions. Let's introduce ourselves. Let's talk about our experience provided mission critical real estate solutions over the last 35 years. And then just listen to understand kind of what their constraints are and some of the sensitivities they have, not only with it again, the actual physical plant and facility, but also the actual lease and some of the maybe constraints they have on their system relative to balance sheet, bonding capacity levels et cetera. To your second question, on BOP. So, we actually - the BOP, we just met with them here over the weekend at the American Correctional Association Conference at Minneapolis. They're always good to meet with the industry during these conferences and so we got a really kind of new view from them or updated view I should say, not new, but updated view from them over the weekend on kind of populations. And what they're saying going into next fiscal year which as you know starts on October 1st at the federal level, we're saying they'll probably going to see - still see some declines for the first part of the year, but the populations that were reverse bottom out and start to increase during the course of the fiscal year. So, I think their view is 2019, little bit decline at first, bottoms out start to increase potentially just kind of flat for the fiscal year and then going into 2020 and beyond and see an increase. And they noted as you and I talk about Tobey kind of leading indicator, the Marshall Service population, so that the Marshall Service increasing by about 8000-9000 prisoners over the last 12 months. They're clearly watching that closely and see that as a lead indicator for their additional capacity utilization. So, not part of your question, but a common question we ask about CAR XIX is with 9500 beds in that procurement is a need still there and I think with MCN 8000 to 9000 population increase to Marshall Service that these still are going to be there with the gear going into 2019 and 2020.
Tobey Sommer
Analyst
Thank you very much.
Damon Hininger
President and CEO
Thank you, Tobey.
Operator
Operator
[Operator Instructions] :
Unidentified Analyst
Analyst
Good morning. Thank you for taking my questions. I want to talk about just use of the capital over the next 12 to 24 months, so when you think about how you will allocate gross capital, how would you bucket between office acquisitions versus residential reentry or growing your correction retention business and is there any new development of expansions? Thanks.
Damon Hininger
President and CEO
Thanks, Kevin. I'll take that one. I would say the pipeline for both CoreCivic Community which is residential reentry center business is active, probably not as active as I said at CoreCivic Properties pipeline would be. There is just more opportunities in the GSA and government leased property type than there are in the residential reentry center market. The residential reentry center market, you're typically going to be seeing relatively small transactions anywhere in the $5 million to $50 million transactions whereas Damon pointed out, if you're looking at CoreCivic Properties and a government leased asset class, they can be significantly varying sizes, so we're looking at deals anywhere from $10 million to $50 million for individual properties and then portfolios that reached $250 million or higher. So, I would say as we look at the capital allocation, it's probably going to be more skewed on a dollar basis towards CoreCivic Properties then it would in CoreCivic Community just because there is more opportunities in that space. When it comes to the CoreCivic Safety space, we've got 10,000 available beds, so don't see any new construction on the horizon. I guess I wouldn't be too shocked if we had a small expansion in a particular market that has unique demands or acute demands with limited alternative bed capacity, but really shouldn't see too much deployment of capital on the CoreCivic Safety business.
Unidentified Analyst
Analyst
Okay. And you mentioned that expansion would that be - and if so would that expansion include family beds?
Damon Hininger
President and CEO
This is Damon. So, yes, the OT facility is one that we are considering, it would just be for adults.
Unidentified Analyst
Analyst
Just for adults. Okay. Thanks. And then looking at your office portfolio, you mentioned Dave $250 million portfolio transaction or larger. How would you plan to fund that in terms of debt versus equity?
Dave Garfinkle
CFO
It would be secured debt in the government leasing ...
Unidentified Analyst
Analyst
On non-recourse?
Damon Hininger
President and CEO
On non-recourse, yes. CMBS financing mortgage notes something like that, it's similar to what we financed Capital Commerce Center at the beginning of the year that acquisition was financed for about a 50-55% loan to value that was an attractive 4.5% fixed fully amortizing mortgage over a 15-year term, so it would look very similar to that.
Unidentified Analyst
Analyst
Got it, thanks. And then as you think about leverage going forward I know as you grow out the property size of business back in support a little bit higher leverage point and in the past, you said that leverage would a little bit above four times. So, as you are thinking about your credit rating and your I guess that ending leverage point, what's kind of the sweet spot for you guys?
Dave Garfinkle
CFO
Yes, that's a great question Kevin. You're right. I look at it as we've always said three to four times on the CoreCivic Safety and CoreCivic Community business, government leased assets can handle a higher leverage level investment grade reach out there in that asset class 5, 6 maybe even seven times leverage, we have no aspirations to get our leverage that high. On that part of the business, we'd be comfortable 5 or 6 times leverage. So, on a blended basis, it does come out a little bit north of four times. Does that answer your question?
Unidentified Analyst
Analyst
Yes, that's helpful. I appreciate that. And then, can you just maybe give us some visibility and the how populations at South Texas trended throughout the quarter, given all the influx and arrivals and the attention around family separation.
Damon Hininger
President and CEO
Yes, it's Damon, so I give a little color there. So, we saw some fluctuation during the summer months, I looked at this morning and I think we were kind of 1500, 1600 I think - there that would been occupied so probably historically that's probably a pretty close to the average. We have been as high recently as 2000 and then sub 1,000. So, I say right now today's it's pretty close to probably historical average and then I know some numbers just came out more generally not just with South Texas, but generally about kind of family activity on the South West border and I looked at that over the last few days and it appears that, family kind of apprehensions on the South West border or maybe a little higher than historical still below that notable level in 2014, which was huge crisis on the South West border and call this in the action with Obama administration, but I'd say that kind of current activity, there is a little - maybe a little higher than historical norms during the summer months.
Unidentified Analyst
Analyst
Got it, thanks. And final one for me housekeeping item. The Lansing CapEx, the $60 million or so that you plan to spend in 2018. That's all running through the cash flow statement, correct, because in other words year-to-date you have only occurred from my estimates $44 million of CapEx versus to $130 million guide. So, I just want to make sure now comparing apples to apples? Thank you.
Damon Hininger
President and CEO
You are, yes absolutely those cash expenditures go through the investing section of our cash flow statement.
Unidentified Analyst
Analyst
Thanks for the time.
Damon Hininger
President and CEO
You're welcome. Thank you.
Operator
Operator
At this time, I would like to turn the call back over to our speakers for closing remarks.
Damon Hininger
President and CEO
Thank you, Travis. Before we conclude the call, I want to take a moment to recognize our employees. Who are chaplains, nurses, mothers, veterans and many others. These are really, really good people doing great work for our government partners and the individuals and trusted in our care. So, to them, directly, I am sincerely honored to serve alongside you all. I really appreciate everyone joining us on the call today, and we look forward to reporting to you in November on our progress through the third quarter of this year. Everyone have a great rest of your day.
Operator
Operator
Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. This concludes today's teleconference and you may now disconnect.