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Q2 2025 Earnings Call· Tue, Aug 5, 2025

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Operator

Operator

Good morning. My name is Angeline, and I will be your conference facilitator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Crawford & Company Second Quarter 2025 Earnings Release Conference Call. In conjunction with this call, a supplementary financial presentation is available on our website at www.crawco.com under the Investor Relations section. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, ladies and gentlemen, this conference is being recorded today, Tuesday, August 5, 2025. Now I would like to introduce Tami Stevenson, Crawford & Company's General Counsel. Please go ahead.

Tami E. Stevenson

Analyst

Thank you, Angeline. Some of the matters to be discussed in this conference call and in the supplementary financial presentation may include forward-looking statements that involve risks and uncertainties. These statements may relate to, among other things, our expected future operating results and financial condition, our ability to grow our revenues and reduce our operating expenses, expectations regarding our anticipated contributions to our underfunded defined benefit pension plans, collectability of our billed and unbilled accounts receivable, results from our recently completed acquisitions, our continued compliance with the financial and other covenants contained in our financing agreements, our long-term capital resource and liquidity requirements and our ability to pay dividends in the future. The company's actual results achieved in future quarters could differ materially from the results that may be implied by such forward- looking statements. The company undertakes no obligation to publicly release revisions to any forward-looking statements made in this conference call to reflect events or circumstances occurring after the date of the call or to reflect the occurrence of unanticipated events. In addition, you are reminded that operating results for any historical period are not necessarily indicative of the results to be expected for any future period. For a complete discussion regarding factors which could affect the company's financial performance, please refer to the company's Form 10-Q for the quarter ended June 30, 2025, filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission, particularly the information under the headings Risk Factors and Management's Discussion and Analysis of Financial Condition and Results of Operations as well as subsequent company filings with the SEC. This presentation also includes certain non-GAAP financial measures as defined under the SEC rules. As required, a reconciliation is provided for these matters, to those most directly comparable GAAP measures. I would like to now introduce Mr. Rohit Verma, Chief Executive Officer of Crawford & Company. Rohit?

Rohit Verma

Analyst

Thank you, Tami. Good morning, and welcome to our second quarter 2025 earnings call. Joining me today is Bruce Swain, our Chief Financial Officer; and Tami Stevenson, our General Counsel. After our prepared remarks, we will open the call for your questions. This quarter, we continued to make progress on our strategic objectives. Consolidated revenue grew year-over-year with three of our four segments delivering top line growth. While we're seeing the effects of lower property claims frequency in the U.S., which put some pressure on revenues in our North America Loss Adjusting and Platform Solutions segments, we saw encouraging results across the broader business. Notably, we achieved growth in our non-weather segments, highlighting the effectiveness of our diverse business model and disciplined execution in navigating various market options. This morning, I'll review our segment operations for the second quarter before handing it over to Bruce for a deeper dive into our financial performance. As you've heard me say before, our scale, expertise and long-standing legacy of service excellence are true differentiators in the marketplace. We operate in over 70 countries with 10,000 employees and access to more than 50,000 field resources and it's one of the only companies with the capability to respond to complex claims of any size, anywhere. Each year, we manage more than $20 billion in claims globally, reflecting our reliability in meeting the needs of the world's leading carriers, corporations and public entities. Our global presence, deep technical expertise and over 8 decades of experience position us competitively as a critical partner to clients navigating increased complexity and risk across a wide range of geographies and market conditions. We see several core components driving our growth. First, the global frequency of weather events continues to add volatility to claims staffing needs of carriers that heightens demand…

W. Bruce Swain

Analyst

Thank you, Rohit. Crawford operates through our four core segments that represent the global reach of our business. North America Loss Adjusting, which includes our Loss Adjusting operations in the U.S. and Canada, accounted for 24% of second quarter 2025 revenues. International Operations covering all service lines outside North America contributed 34% of quarterly revenues. And Broadspire, our U.S.-based third-party administration business, represented 31% of quarterly revenues. Platform Solutions, which includes Contractor Connection, networks and Subrogation services, accounted for 11% of revenues. Our North America Loss Adjusting segment delivered 2.7% revenue growth in the second quarter, driven by continued strength in our Global Technical Services business. Performance in U.S. field operations was impacted by reduced property claims activity, an industry-wide trend related to affordability pressures and lower claim frequency. As a result, operating earnings in the segment declined 6% year-over-year and operating margin decreased by 54 basis points. As Rohit mentioned, we don't anticipate this pattern to be a long-term trend, and we expect industry trends to stabilize over the next 12 to 18 months. Crawford remains a destination for top-tier specialized adjusting talent, and we continue to invest in building a best-in- class team to meet the evolving needs of our clients. International Operations delivered another strong quarter with revenues increasing 6.6% year-over-year or 6.9% in constant currency. We saw particularly strong performance across the U.K., Europe and Asia, where organic new business growth and weather-related claims activity supported the top line. Operating earnings grew 34% with the operating margin expanding by 143 basis points, reflecting our focus on pricing, productivity and disciplined execution. While the second quarter was a strong result for this segment, we are mindful about potential margin fluctuation as we move through the balance of the year. That said, we're pleased by the momentum we're…

Rohit Verma

Analyst

Thank you, Bruce. As we enter the second half of the year, we remain focused on delivering high-quality outcomes for our clients. Historically, the second half of any year often brings heightened weather activity, and our teams are well prepared to respond. We remain confident in our strategy and the long-term growth opportunity ahead for Crawford. Our second quarter results reflect continued execution across our global platform, strong performance in key segments and progress on our journey towards margin improvement. With a solid balance sheet, a robust business model and a highly experienced team, we remain focused on delivering for our clients, deepening strategic partnerships and continuing to drive value for our shareholders. Thank you for your time today. Angeline, please open the call for questions.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Your first question comes from Maxwell Fritscher with Truist Securities.

Maxwell Fritscher

Analyst

I'm on for Mark Hughes. Did you call out the specific GTS growth number? If not, what was the exact number there? And what has been your experience lately with adding headcount in GTS?

Rohit Verma

Analyst

I'll let Bruce get to you on the number. But our experience continues to be very strong in terms of adding expertise. As you know, we had a target of adding 200 back in 2023, and we hit that target well before time. Since then, we've continued to add resources to our GTS unit in the U.S. as well as globally. Our GTS U.S. had modest growth this year, mainly because of the suppressed frequency of weather claims. But overall, we are very pleased with the trajectory of what's happening with GTS, both in the U.S. as well as globally.

W. Bruce Swain

Analyst

Yes. I don't have the specific GTS growth number, but I would tell you that substantially all of our growth in North America Loss Adjusting is coming from the GTS business.

Maxwell Fritscher

Analyst

Great. And then, do you have any observations you could share with us on how the weather has trended thus far into 3Q? Obviously, no big Southeastern storms. But broadly speaking, what are you observing?

Rohit Verma

Analyst

Yes. The weather continues to be sort of flat to last year. I think the biggest thing that we continue to see is the suppressed frequency of claims being filed in U.S. property. And we believe, as I said on the call, generally related to the affordability challenges that we're seeing with insurance in the U.S. market, where deductibles have increased and pricing on insurance has increased, and that is dissuading filing of any claims or comparable claims, I should say, or similar weather events as we've seen in the prior years.

Maxwell Fritscher

Analyst

Understood. And then in regards to workers' comp, are you seeing any change in severity or frequency there? Any signs of emerging medical inflation?

Rohit Verma

Analyst

No. I mean nothing out of the ordinary. I mean the workers' comp claims continue to be a similar trend as we've seen in the past. And then you're seeing the general inflation in medical costs that we've seen on a year-to-year basis, but nothing that I would say is off trend. Angeline, do we have another question? I think we lost the operator?

Tami E. Stevenson

Analyst

I think, we may have lost the operator. We are waiting for the next person that is in queue for question. Angeline?

Rohit Verma

Analyst

Angeline, we are waiting for the next person, please.

Operator

Operator

Sure. Your next question comes from Kevin Steinke with Barrington.

Kevin Mark Steinke

Analyst · Barrington.

I just wanted to follow up on the discussion about lower property claims frequency in the U.S. related to affordability. And you mentioned that you expect that to be temporary and stabilize over the next 12 to 18 months just based on the industry adjusting, I guess. But so can you just dig into that comment a little bit more and why you expect that?

Rohit Verma

Analyst · Barrington.

Sure. Kevin, as you're very familiar with that the insurance industry has overall been experiencing what would be termed as a hard market for property over the last, I would say, 3 to 5 years. The reinsurance rates have particularly hardened as a result of it, and we have seen significant severity in the property space coming from wildfires as well as severe convective storms and to some extent, hurricane activity. That created some pressure in terms of pricing and many of the carriers responded with higher deductibles and higher pricing. You can actually see that now in the results that we're seeing from the carriers as far as their property loss ratios are concerned. The most recent reinsurance renewals that we've been watching seem to have softened quite a bit. And we believe that, that will continue to soften unless we see some major storm activity. As they continue to soften, we believe market dynamics will play out and pricing will start to ease up and deductibles will start to come down, which will then trigger back the sort of normalization of claims frequency. And we believe that it could take anywhere from 12 to 18 months for this dynamic to play out. So that's the reason why we're thinking that the claims frequency should return back to normalcy, because market dynamics will eventually play out as reinsurance pricing eases up.

Kevin Mark Steinke

Analyst · Barrington.

Okay. That's helpful. I also wanted to ask about Broadspire. You talked about the continued new business momentum there and some continued investments in staffing and technology to meet that demand and business momentum. I'm just kind of wondering where we are in the cycle of those investments relative to margins. And if we start to see margins or if we continue to see margins improve as we move through the back half of the year as you -- revenue growth ramps up and you leverage those investments?

Rohit Verma

Analyst · Barrington.

Yes. I think, Kevin, margin from my perspective, has been well within the tolerance range of 100 to 200 basis points going up or down. So we believe that this is a very normal margin fluctuation for us in Broadspire as we go through the investment cycle. We have quite a lot of new business that we expect to start early part of next year and some at the later part of this year. And those -- and we've been staffing for that. As you know, a key element of service in this business is making sure that we have solid staff that is trained and ready to go as new clients are onboarded. And that's what leads to a higher level of NPS that we continue to see and a higher level of retention that we see in this business. I expect that we would probably stay on that same investment journey, and it will be more like next year when we start to see some of the results of this. But as we continue to add new business, we will continue to add the staffing. I think that the margin fluctuation is somewhere between, say, 13% to 16% is where we will fluctuate.

Kevin Mark Steinke

Analyst · Barrington.

Okay. That makes sense. I appreciate that. I also wanted to ask about international operations. Can you just also discuss the new business momentum there that you mentioned, maybe dig into that a little bit more. And then I had a follow-up on International as well.

Rohit Verma

Analyst · Barrington.

Absolutely. As you know, International has continuously been a turnaround story for us for the last 3 years or 4 years, I would say, as we've tried to change the mix of business and improve the margin as a result of that mix post-COVID. When we look at the International business and the growth that we've seen, which is about 7% in revenue, it's largely been coming from our operations in U.K. as well as Europe. Both those regions, we believe we have significant headroom still to grow. We've also seen a return in our Asia business, a return to revenue growth in our Asia business. But largely, I believe that our largest more near-term opportunities lie in Europe as well as U.K. and we'll continue to see that.

Kevin Mark Steinke

Analyst · Barrington.

Okay. Great. And then you also mentioned in your comments potential margin fluctuation in International. Is that -- is there something specific we should be thinking about there? Or is that just kind of typical quarter-to-quarter potential volatility?

Rohit Verma

Analyst · Barrington.

I would say it's typical quarter-to-quarter volatility. I mean, if you compare our margin this year to last year, it's about 140 basis points better. And that's been, sort of, a continuous trend for us to move the margin up. However, as we look at quarter-to-quarter, there are weather fluctuations, there are investment fluctuations, there are some technology fluctuations, and I think those things will drive the margin. So I think we were just trying to make sure that there was an understanding of that.

Kevin Mark Steinke

Analyst · Barrington.

Okay. Great. And then lastly, maybe if you can touch on capital allocation a bit more. You raised the dividend, which was nice to see. Didn't repurchase any shares, but I assume you still might have an appetite for that. Market conditions are favorable, but any more comments on how you intend to approach?

Rohit Verma

Analyst · Barrington.

I'll probably start and then let Bruce comment on that. Look, our first priority for capital allocation, as you know, has always been to invest in our margin for the long-term growth and profitability and the health of the business. That will always be the first priority. So that, you'll see that in the form of CapEx. You'll see that in the form of any acquisitions that we make. So that will always remain the first priority. Then, when we looked at our cash flow, the health of our business, the quality of earnings, the growth prospects in the business, we felt that -- and our leverage position, we felt very comfortable that putting a $0.05 increase was well within our comfort zone to do, and that's the reason why we did that. And we have been signaling this to you and others that we have a real desire to continue to have not just revenue and earnings growth, but then implied dividend growth from that. As far as share repurchase is concerned, as you know, we are buyers of shares when it's below our intrinsic value. We still have 1.1 million shares left in our authorization. So far, our approach has been to be opportunistic to buy large blocks of business that come in the market. We haven't seen any of that come in. And as a result of that, you didn't see us buy any shares this quarter. So I don't know, Bruce, if there's anything else you want to add to that.

W. Bruce Swain

Analyst · Barrington.

I think maybe the only other thing to add to that is, while organic growth is our primary strategy. We also want to look at inorganic growth opportunities and feel we've got the balance sheet strength and liquidity to be opportunistic out in the marketplace if there are compelling assets that come on the market. So while we haven't done any M&A this year, that doesn't mean we're not out there scouting for businesses that could add value to the company's platform.

Rohit Verma

Analyst · Barrington.

And we have been doing much more acqui-hires, which is sort of acquisition of teams as opposed to acquisition of companies or legal entities.

W. Bruce Swain

Analyst · Barrington.

Yes. And that's where a lot of the GTS growth has come from.

Rohit Verma

Analyst · Barrington.

Yes.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] There seems to be no further questions at this time. I'd now like to turn the call back over to Mr. Verma for closing remarks. Please go ahead.

Rohit Verma

Analyst

Thank you, Angeline, and thank you to all our employees, clients and shareholders for your continued commitment to Crawford & Company. Thank you, and God bless.

Operator

Operator

Thank you for the participation in today's Crawford & Company conference call. This call will be available for replay beginning at 11:30 a.m. Eastern Standard Time today through 11:59 p.m. Eastern Standard Time on August 12, 2025. The conference ID number for the replay is 35518# and the number to dial for the replay is 1 (888) 660-6264. Thank you, and you may now disconnect. Have a great day.