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Q1 2016 Earnings Call· Thu, Nov 5, 2015

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Operator

Operator

Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. My name is Diane, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to Coty's First Quarter Financial 2016 Conference Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After speakers' remarks, there will be question-and-answer session. As a reminder, this conference call is being recorded today, Thursday, November 5. Thank you. I will now turn the conference call over to Kevin Monaco, Coty's Senior Vice President, Treasurer and Investor Relations. Mr. Monaco, please go ahead. Kevin Monaco - Treasurer, Senior VP & Head-Investor Relations: Good morning, and thank you for joining us. On today's call are Bart Becht, Chairman and Interim CEO; and Patrice de Talhouët, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. Before we begin, I would like to remind you that many of our comments may contain forward-looking statements. Please refer to our press release and our reports filed with the SEC where you will find factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from these forward-looking statements. All discussions of net revenues are on a like-for-like basis. In addition, except where noted, the discussion of our financial results and our expectations do not reflect certain non-recurring and other charges. You can find the bridge from GAAP to non-GAAP results in the reconciliation tables in the earnings release. I will now turn the call over to Bart. Bart Becht - Chairman & Interim Chief Executive Officer: Thank you, Kevin. This morning we'll provide you with a brief update on the planned merger with the P&G Specialty Beauty Business, our recent corporate developments, and Q1 results. Then Patrice and I will be pleased to take your questions. In July 2015, we announced the intended merger of Coty with the P&G…

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operating Instructions] And our first question comes from Bill Schmitz. Your line is open.

William G. Schmitz - Deutsche Bank Securities, Inc.

Analyst

Hey. Can we just like drill down a little bit on the Hypermarcas deal? I know you don't want to give us the exact numbers. But you know, it seems like about $50 million of EBITDA, so it's $20 million – sorry 20 times EBITDA is like the rough math on the deal. I just want to know if that's like directionally, right? And are you buying it for the manufacturing and distribution center, are you buying it because you think there's still like a lot of legs left in the brand. And also, maybe how you think about the Brazilian beauty market, and kind of are we at the bottom, and do you think it's going to accelerate from here? Then I have a follow-up if I can. Bart Becht - Chairman & Interim Chief Executive Officer: Yeah. So first, clearly Brazil even in today's environment is a faster growing market than the markets that we're in, in North America and in Western Europe. Still in most of the categories, in which Hypermarcas operates. This business also has shown basically good share progression over the last years. Clearly, its brands are also well-positioned in the market, because they don't tend to fit in the kind of like premium end – the super premium end of the market. And therefore, certainly in the current environment, can be more be successful as a result of that. So we believe that this business has continued good growth potential, certainly ahead to where Coty is today, as you can imagine. So I would say that's point one. Point two; this is a very profitable business. It's a business which has higher profitability than Coty has today. In terms of its capabilities, it provides us with a strengthening of our capabilities really in two areas. First, it has a state-of-the-art supply-chain, both from a manufacturing and a distribution and warehousing point of view, which is one of the key things that we're lacking on both the Coty and the P&G side. And so this will be a very welcome platform for us from a supply point of view. From a go-to-market point of view, it is a very strong organization on the ground. Well supported by a proven management team, considering the market share results. And so, also this clearly will help us when we integrate the three businesses between P&G, Hypermarcas and Coty is to have a very, very strong team and go-to-market organization going forward.

William G. Schmitz - Deutsche Bank Securities, Inc.

Analyst

Okay, great. And then can we just talk about the Fragrance category, so like what you think the big challenges are? How the holiday season is progressing? How far along are we on the inventory cleanup of some of the tail inventory? And then, just broadly speaking the health of the Calvin Klein brand, because I feel sometimes that you guys do more than your fair share of work trying to build the equity there, but if the brand owner is going to continue to divert it and over distribute it, it's almost like you're running against hurricane force winds, because the brand equity keeps getting diluted, so it's almost like a fool's errand, because it's kind of hard to control your destiny when the brand is diluted in another channels. I'd love to hear your thoughts there. And again, the difference between, kind of, sellout versus shipments relative to the inventory destocking you guys kind of referenced. Patrice de Talhouët - Executive Vice President & Chief Financial Officer: Yeah. There clearly – there have been a number of unsustainable efforts from a sales point of view, and there has also been a number of unsustainable lines of businesses, which were launched over the last couple of years, which are coming back to haunt us today, and are not being offset or more than offset by our current brand building efforts and launches. So I think you've already alluded to what the issue there is. So I don't need to elaborate on that, all I can say is that, there are – before everybody is seriously depressed about this business, there are some very nice successes also. We do have the Marc Jacobs Decadence, which is off to a very, very strong start. We have Miu Miu, which is off to a very strong start. But it is more than offset by a number of past launches and practices, which and quite frankly, we're going to have to go through and clean up. As a result of that, from a growth point of view, for the full year, I'm not looking for a material improvement against the Q1 trend as we have it today. Because we will need to continue to have a number of cleanup efforts over the balance of the year potentially going into next year, and they will impact, in particular, the Fragrance category.

Operator

Operator

And our next question comes from John Faucher from JPMorgan. Your line is open. Bart Becht - Chairman & Interim Chief Executive Officer: Hello? Patrice de Talhouët - Executive Vice President & Chief Financial Officer: Hello, John.

John A. Faucher - JPMorgan Securities LLC

Analyst

Yeah. You can't hear me? Bart Becht - Chairman & Interim Chief Executive Officer: Yeah. Patrice de Talhouët - Executive Vice President & Chief Financial Officer: Yeah. Now we can.

John A. Faucher - JPMorgan Securities LLC

Analyst

Okay. Sorry about that. So, as we look at the trend from the Procter businesses, obviously the trends have continued to be tough. How should we think about how you view those businesses and the performance before you get a hold of them? Because we get a lot of questions in terms of the trends and everything, and kind of – I guess what kind of shape are you expecting those businesses to be in when they get transferred? And then, secondly, I just want to follow-up on sort of – if we could get some thoughts in terms of the power brands, and how you feel about sort of the shift in spending that you've had on those, do you feel like you're beginning to see the underlying equities improve on the power brands, given your new strategy? Thanks. Bart Becht - Chairman & Interim Chief Executive Officer: So on the P&G trends, clearly, we cannot comment you know on that. What I can tell you from the e-market performance, which is publicly available is that, this business is performing at a better level than where Coty is performing. So – are all the trends positive? No, there are certain brands where there clearly are challenges. And you can look at the U.S. market data, I'm sure which you have access to, and clearly identify that. On a global basis, there are also pockets where they're doing very well. And I think that's probably all I can say about the P&G trend for the time being. So I do anticipate you know, that this business would come to us in a shape and a form, which is very much when we did the transaction. I don't think there will be substantial change from what we anticipated. On the power brands, improving brand's equity is one of the key things that we have and are starting to work on. If you ask me, you know, as you know, brand equity doesn't change overnight, doesn't even change in 12 months, no matter what you do. So this will take some time, but this is going to be a key focus. We need to move Coty much more from a, let's call it, sell-in type mentality to sell-out type of mentality, and that clearly means that, we need to do much more work in terms of building the brands from the ground up, through brand equity programs like communication programs and innovation programs.

John A. Faucher - JPMorgan Securities LLC

Analyst

Got it. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

And our next question comes from Dara Mohsenian. Your line is open – from Morgan Stanley. Dara W. Mohsenian - Morgan Stanley & Co. LLC: Good morning. Bart Becht - Chairman & Interim Chief Executive Officer: Hi, Dara. Dara W. Mohsenian - Morgan Stanley & Co. LLC: So, first just a couple of clarity questions, did two licensees under the P&G portfolio that you've not reached an agreement on, are those still up in the air or are you not expecting them to transfer and how big are they? And then second, are you expecting like-for-like revenue growth here for the full year, or is that no longer realistical with the Fragrance trends, I'm assuming it's not, but just want a clarity there. Bart Becht - Chairman & Interim Chief Executive Officer: Yeah. So 10 out of the 12 are confirmed to transfer. So that pretty much means they're signed-off, fully signed-off. The remaining two, one just in progress, and one basically is declined, but the one which has declined is very, very small. So we're talking a couple of percentage points of the total P&G net revenue, and therefore is not really a concern. And the last one is still being discussed. So there is no news on that. We do not disclose basically what the sizes of the ones which are being discussed. All I can tell you is that, the one which is being discussed is not immaterial, is a material one, and that's it. In terms of like-for-like growth, just to be crystal clear, I do not anticipate that, what we've seen in Q1 will materially change for the full year 2016. I think the Fragrance trends might improve from where we are today. Having said that, on the Color Cosmetics side, as you all know,…

Operator

Operator

And our next question comes from Chris Ferrara from Wells Fargo. Your line is open.

Christopher Ferrara - Wells Fargo Securities LLC

Analyst

Thanks. Can you guys talk maybe a little bit more specifically about – I guess maybe what the cleanup means in Fragrances for the overall size of the business. I'm just trying to dimensionalize it, I mean, is 5% of the Fragrance business perhaps unsustainable or is it 10% or 20%, like how big a deal is this for you guys? Bart Becht - Chairman & Interim Chief Executive Officer: Yeah, I'm not going to answer that, a) because it's work in progress. And so, I would say this is premature to have this discussion. It is very clear that we have a number of lines of business where – which are not sustainable, which we have to tackle. And we will tackle those over time. We will not be able to tackle all of those in one go. So – and at the same time, we need to push much harder in terms of structurally building our brands from a brand equity point of view and an innovation point of view. So I'm not going to give you any clarity on this point.

Christopher Ferrara - Wells Fargo Securities LLC

Analyst

Okay. And then I guess two quick follow-ups; I guess one, how big an element of the Hypermarcas deal also is tax savings or duty avoidance in manufacturing locally for the whole business? And then the motivation behind moving to London, I get like proximity to Europe for a lot of the executives, but is there a tax element to that too, if you can just flesh that a little bit would be great? Thanks. Patrice de Talhouët - Executive Vice President & Chief Financial Officer: Yeah, so Chris on the first part of the question clearly the Hypermarcas deal is primarily a business reason. We wanted – as Bart said, we wanted to have a platform in Brazil with state-of-the-art go-to-market capabilities and manufacturing ability. So that's the main reason why we're acquiring this business. There are some tax benefits that Hypermarcas is enjoying, that will go with the transaction. So that's for sure. But that's not the primary reason. On the second question, which is the executive committee in London, actually the underlying reason why we're doing that is, first – that we want the headquarter not to be in the same location as one of the headquarter of the division. We just don't want the ExCom to overlook systematically the divisions. The divisions are fully empowered to drive the business, fully focused and dedicated management team. So that's really important. The second point is that, we wanted to be in an area where we can also attract talent for the headquarter, and that is really from an infrastructure standpoint. And so, clearly, London was an ideal location if you exclude Paris and Geneva where we have already a headquarter of a division.

Christopher Ferrara - Wells Fargo Securities LLC

Analyst

Thank you. Patrice de Talhouët - Executive Vice President & Chief Financial Officer: So that's not really tax driven.

Christopher Ferrara - Wells Fargo Securities LLC

Analyst

No.

Operator

Operator

And our next question comes from Olivia Tong from Bank of America. Your line is open.

Olivia Tong - Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Analyst

Great. Thanks. First on Fragrance, how do you assess whether it's really the focus on cleaning up the portfolio versus just underlying challenges in that category that you've been facing for some time. And then, on the Hypermarcas deal, is there sufficient capacity already existing at their facility so that you can self-manufacture or should you want to want some of your own brands. And on the tax structure, is that going to – are the benefits that they get going to pass along to you, do you have a sort of sign-off on that? And then just lastly on the trends there, it looks like the sales trends have been relatively solid, but their margin trends have been less so, I know the absolute margin is better than yours, but the trajectory hasn't been great, so how do you think about plans to manage that business versus what prior management has done? Thanks so much. Bart Becht - Chairman & Interim Chief Executive Officer: Right. That was a bunch of questions. So let me make sure – so I think the first one was on Fragrance. So can you repeat that one more time, because I kind of lost track of your questions?

Olivia Tong - Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Analyst

Sorry, I should've probably asked it in parts. But on Fragrance, it was just – how do you know that it's really what's driving that decline is the things that you're doing versus just underlying challenges in the category that you've been facing for some time? Bart Becht - Chairman & Interim Chief Executive Officer: Yeah, I would say, so as you know the Fragrance category overall is not a high growth basically category, so that doesn't – and clearly that doesn't help us. Having said that, within the category, you know there are certain brands from a portfolio point of view, yes, you're right, that we have a drag on the tail – from the tail, and particularly where it is, celebrity fragrances clearly, in terms of e-market performance. But we also have launched historically, on a number of key brands. New lines which clearly were not sustainable. And never basically had a chance of being sustainable for any medium or long-term. And so that clean up, that decay rate that you have on those lines and the cleanup associated with that is going to depress the net revenues going forward before we can put things in place or as we're putting things in place to really fundamentally drive the business from an equity and innovation point of view. On Hypermarcas, I'm going to handover to Patrice on the tax, but before we get there on the infrastructure, since I've been there, this is truly a state-of-the-art manufacturing facility, which can produce anything from nail care to skin care products, to deodorants and many other personal care items. It has a state-of-the-art warehousing facility site as well. So it is something – it also produces hair colorants, which will be clearly helpful as we absorb the P&G business. So…

Olivia Tong - Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Analyst

Got it. Thank you so much.

Operator

Operator

And our next question comes from Wendy Nicholson from Citi. Your line is open.

Wendy C. Nicholson - Citigroup Global Markets, Inc.

Analyst

Hi. Good afternoon or good morning. Two quick questions for you, the follow-up on the deal in Brazil, does that change your strategy or your thoughts about your joint venture with Avon in Brazil, and will you continue to market their fragrances? And then my second question is, on the gross margin expansion in the quarter, you talked about that being a function of your productivity savings. But I'm wondering if there was also a component of favorable mix shift in there, and can you remind us kind of what the gross margin is for fragrance relative to color and skin? Thanks. Bart Becht - Chairman & Interim Chief Executive Officer: So, on Avon, no it doesn't really impact what we do with Avon. As you know, the business in Brazil, from a market point of view, is very much split between what happens door-to-door and what happens at retail. So the Hypermarcas business, the current Coty business and a big chunk of the P&G business is really – is a retail business. What we were doing with Avon is very much focused on different products in a different channel. So they don't really impact each other. They might at some point in time, but certainly not for the time being. On the gross margin... Patrice de Talhouët - Executive Vice President & Chief Financial Officer: On the margin, so on the margin, the vast majority of our margin is coming from the supply chain efficiency, and from the Productivity Program, which is part of the Global Efficiency Plan that I've referred to previously. Actually there is no mix, which is favorable, and we are not going to comment and give you any details on the gross margin by segment. I think what we're doing is, we're giving the operating margin, but we're not giving you any further details, and I want to stick to that.

Wendy C. Nicholson - Citigroup Global Markets, Inc.

Analyst

And I know we'll see it once we get the Q. But can you comment directionally on just the A&P line, how much that changed year-over-year, and whether that was a timing issue, or how much that contributed, if you will, to the first quarter operating margin expansion. Bart Becht - Chairman & Interim Chief Executive Officer: Yeah. A good question. So on that one, we keep on going into our journey of shifting more money from non-strategic spend to strategy spend. In other words, the working media keeps on increasing quarter after quarter, which is what we have to do to build a sustainable business. So what you will see is that, in constant rates the overall NCP line will slightly decrease, but actually the working media is increasing, and it's the non-working media actually where we keep on making effort to generate some efficiency there.

Wendy C. Nicholson - Citigroup Global Markets, Inc.

Analyst

Got it. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

And our next question comes from Nik Modi from RBC Capital Markets. Your line is open.

Nik H. Modi - RBC Capital Markets LLC

Analyst

Yeah, thanks for the question. Hey, Bart, I was wondering maybe if you can comment on organizational stress, I mean, you guys have been very busy, a lot of big initiatives going on. Maybe if you could just – is there something you worry about and can you help us understand how you're kind of managing all these moving pieces and all these balls in the air. Thanks. Bart Becht - Chairman & Interim Chief Executive Officer: Yeah, so – and what you – it is a very good question. Clearly, what you're seeing is a company which is in reconstruction mode. And that clearly is also from an organizational and a staffing point of view. And as I alluded to, we need to shift in essence on two main levers; one is to move from a sell-in much more to a sell-out and brand building mode. And on the other side, clearly from a organizational point of view, and from a staffing point of view, we will continue to focus on upgrading the bench, and clearly most of those efforts need to be seen in the context of the merger. And I think you've seen the first step of that at the first level, the executive committee level, where we have purposely looked for the best of both worlds. And where we believe we need to complement that with an external candidate, and you've seen this already at the executive committee level happening is, we will go outside to make sure that we get a very strong team, which ultimately is going to build this business over the long-term. So a lot of efforts at the moment, even though it is somewhat painful on a quarterly basis are there to do the right thing and to build something which can become a true leader in the beauty industry.

Nik H. Modi - RBC Capital Markets LLC

Analyst

Thanks.

Operator

Operator

And our next question comes from Steph Wissink from Piper Jaffray. Your line is open. Stephanie Schiller Wissink - Piper Jaffray & Co (Broker): Thank you. Good morning everyone. Just a couple of questions. First, guys, if you could just talk a little bit about the post-merger and the closure of Hypermarcas, how should we think about the pro forma split between domestic and international both on the sales and class basis? And then on the Fragrance side, I just want to follow-up on Wendy's earlier question that, how much of that maturation is tied to the contracts, and the commitment to a certain number of fragrance launches per contract, is some of the work done related to contract exits or ending? Thank you. Bart Becht - Chairman & Interim Chief Executive Officer: You're going to have to clarify the second question for a second, because I'm not sure I really understood. Are you implying that fragrance launches are tied to contractual obligations to our licensors? Stephanie Schiller Wissink - Piper Jaffray & Co (Broker): Yeah. If there is such a structure, if you have committed to multiple fragrances over a period of time, if those contracts actually need to expire in order to work down some of the inventory related to some of those earlier fragrances? Bart Becht - Chairman & Interim Chief Executive Officer: Okay. I'll answer the questions. So, first on Hypermarcas, so the entire business is in Brazil, there is no business outside of Brazil. So it's very, very clean. So that's question one. The second question about fragrance launches, the launches of fragrance are decided in between the licensor and Coty. And this is clearly – when you have a license brand, you have a clear positioning of a brand and there is a discussion…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instruction] And our next question comes from Jason Gere from KeyBanc. Your line is open.

Jason M. Gere - KeyBanc Capital Markets, Inc.

Analyst

Thanks. I just have two questions, and they're not about Brazil. So the first one, I guess, I just want to get your perspective on some of the channel disruptions in food, drug and mass, we've heard about Walmart, and some of the announcement, SKU rationalization, Walgreens and Rite Aid combining maybe some store closures. I recognize that in nine months you guys will be in a – I guess a better position of strength with P&G in the fall. But just wondering if I can get your perspective on just the food, drug and mass channel, what you see happening over the next year? And then just kind of tying in how e-commerce kind of maybe could come in and kind of serve as a little bit more of a panacea to that? And then I have a follow-up? Bart Becht - Chairman & Interim Chief Executive Officer: Yeah, so the last point is the major disruption. So the two disruptions which are happening in the consumer goods space is, one, is in terms of digital communication with the consumer and the other one is e-commerce those are the two disruptive factors. The other factors that you're highlighting, which is talking about inventory management at Walmart and Walgreens is a discussion which we've had for the last, probably 10 years. And that will continue to happen. Every single time that any of our retailer sees an increase in inventories, because they're ordering ahead, basically of the sell-out trend, they will immediately pare back from an inventory point of view. And that will happen from time-to-time. Normally that happens for us in the second quarter. It might happen again. So those types of things are you know more the ongoing normal discussion. In terms of – so, I would highlight, on your key discussions what's happening from an e-commerce point of view. And that could be e-commerce on your traditional retailers or new retailers because that's where the growth is of the entire market. There is very little growth in the bricks-and-mortar segment.

Jason M. Gere - KeyBanc Capital Markets, Inc.

Analyst

Okay. And then, I guess, just in terms of the context of just – with Walmart and the drugstores, how do you think about the tail brands kind of surviving through some of this. I know that you are kind of managing those more for cash. So just wondering, is that kind of built into your expectations for maybe the next two years like these brands could kind of get pushed aside, but hopefully the power brands will kind of sort of step-up and kind of overcompensate? Bart Becht - Chairman & Interim Chief Executive Officer: Yeah, so on the tail brands, some of them over time will not survive, some of them will survive. So that's kind of like building what we've said about this fiscal year. In terms of the longer-term, we are and we will be going through a full portfolio review on the margin entity, and then we will communicate to market in due time. But that's work in progress, that's not completed. And so that is really something which we'll be discussing with you some time next year.

Jason M. Gere - KeyBanc Capital Markets, Inc.

Analyst

Okay. And then just the question, when you guys announced the P&G merger, you gave kind of a pro forma number. So obviously, there's a lot of moving parts since that date. P&G's numbers, the change in your structure, acquisitions et cetera. When do you think you might be able to kind of provide us a little bit more clarity on what the kind of the go-forward pro forma number might look like or a little bit more context, so we can put into the numbers, into our modeling? Thank you. Bart Becht - Chairman & Interim Chief Executive Officer: Yeah. I could give you a very broad answer sometime next year. So, this is – you have to kind of understand how this process works. We have just appointed the executive committee, clearly we are working on the next level, and then we'll work on the levels below that. As you're working your way down into the organization, you are essentially, you know, also creating the cost structure associated with that. So the progress in terms of clarifying the specific synergy number and confirming the synergy numbers, which we've given to the market or providing any perspective around that is – happens as we are going through this process. So it will happen, hopefully it will happen sometime in the first half, but it's premature to give you a firm date on that.

Operator

Operator

And our next question comes from Mark Astrachan from Stifel. Your line is open. Mark S. Astrachan - Stifel, Nicolaus & Co., Inc.: Yeah. Thanks, and hi everybody. I'm more curious – has your strategy evolved by managing luxury and the mass businesses? And if yes, sort of, what has changed? And sort of, related to that, how much overlap is there between managing luxury fragrances and other categories together? Bart Becht - Chairman & Interim Chief Executive Officer: So, I think you can see our thinking in this area on display in terms of what we've announced relative to the new structure of the organization. So we clearly have three divisions, and the first of the divisions are Fragrances and Skin Care is very much focused on that category, it's predominantly a prestige and license business. In terms of the mass fragrance, which sits in there, we will basically, they will manage that, because from a consumer point of view, there is very little difference. If they buy a mass fragrance or a prestige fragrance. Trust me, the consumer does not think about buying a mass fragrance or a prestige fragrance. So the fundamental thinking and should sit in that, basically in that division. And we will continue basically to leave that with them to manage from a consumer point of view. Both the mass as well as the luxury part of the fragrance. Having said that, going forward we have to be very clear, this is 80% plus is going to be a prestige license type business, in the fragrance area. So the mass will be part of that. But will be the smaller parts, so the thinking is going to be more towards the upper end and the bottom end of the market. Mark S. Astrachan -…

Operator

Operator

And our next question comes from Javier Escalante with Consumer Edge Research. Your line is open.

Javier Escalante - Consumer Edge Research LLC

Analyst · Consumer Edge Research. Your line is open.

Hi. Good morning, everyone. I have a follow-up with regards to earnings, and I understand perfectly that your progression for 2016 and 2017 remains work in progress because of the moving pieces. But could you ballpark the incremental overhead cost to manage the Procter brands. And with this, I mean, what is the ongoing SG&A – this is beyond one-time spendings and CapEx. This is point number one. And have you considered a slowing down or, perhaps, holding your pre-merger cost-cutting plan to harmonize it with these broader changes that you're making, given all these acquisitions. And I have a follow-up question. Bart Becht - Chairman & Interim Chief Executive Officer: No. In terms of the Global Efficiency Programs, they will continue, as we've outlined. There is absolutely zero reason to stop any of that, what we're doing in that area because of the P&G merger. The P&G merger will provide additional opportunities from an efficiency point of view, and there's no question about that. And they're very clearly identified in many pockets, be it in supply chain or in the SG&A area. So there is a very clear plan. Now, the question will be, is really, as we go through the process, is to update all the assumptions and to make sure that we are going to achieve the numbers that we've outlined. In terms of incremental overhead cost to manage the P&G brands, so clearly, we're not going to have the Coty SG&A to manage the larger organization. There will be incremental SG&A. That's not the question. The question is really the sum of the two basically will drive certain synergies. And we have clearly communicated what we believe the synergies are. And so for the time being, there's no update on that.

Javier Escalante - Consumer Edge Research LLC

Analyst · Consumer Edge Research. Your line is open.

Thank you. And the second question is that, I noticed that your title remains Interim CEO. If there's a CEO search, could you just tell us what's going? Hello? Bart Becht - Chairman & Interim Chief Executive Officer: Yes.

Javier Escalante - Consumer Edge Research LLC

Analyst · Consumer Edge Research. Your line is open.

Hello? Bart Becht - Chairman & Interim Chief Executive Officer: I can hear you. Yes.

Javier Escalante - Consumer Edge Research LLC

Analyst · Consumer Edge Research. Your line is open.

Sorry for that. I was on the speaker. So basically, if there is a CEO search, and if you can you tell us whether you're considering to bring in someone with operating experience in beauty, if that is a requisite, and what is the timeframe for that search? Thank you. Bart Becht - Chairman & Interim Chief Executive Officer: So there is no search. So at some point in time, there might be a search, but there's no search. And the reason why there's no search is that, with the board we've decided at the time, which was like in June-July of this year, that I should stay in place and very much make sure that we are going to gradually transform the Coty business and make the merger a success. Once we get to a situation where we believe that – we have reason to believe that, that's going to be the case, we will come back to this. So that might mean that I'll become one of the longest-serving Interim CEOs, but so be it. So it is not really time-dependent. It's really KPI-dependent – the CEO situation.

Operator

Operator

And our next question comes from Dara Mohsenian from Morgan Stanley. Your line is open. Dara W. Mohsenian - Morgan Stanley & Co. LLC: I'm actually all set. Thanks. Bart Becht - Chairman & Interim Chief Executive Officer: Good. Considering no further questions, can I just thank all of you for your attendance on the call? And I'm sure we'll have another session like this in about three months. Thank you very much.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for your participation in today's conference. This does end the conference call for today. You may now disconnect and have a great day.