Okay, sure. Thanks, Joe. Look, I think it's less about absolute levels. And it's more about why our interest rates moving up? Why is inflation moving up? And historically, if interest rates and inflation have been moving up, because we have strong real GDP and inflation going up because we have strong demand as opposed as supply constraints, or no slack in the employment markets, then that's tended to be a positive dynamic for our more equity like, or economically sensitive asset classes. So, whether that's real estate or infrastructure or commodities or resource equities, a strong demand is the dominant story rather than Oh, interest rates are moving up, or Oh, inflation is moving up. It becomes more of a problem when inflation goes from being reflationary or even a little bit hotter than central banks want to and of course, central banks so far have said they're okay with things running hotter. That's why we think that message means that there's more like years of dovishness ahead of us, rather than quarters of dovishness ahead of us. But if inflation were to spike sustainably above some level, where it's at a control, then then you're getting more towards that rapid tightening cycle. That's not what we are talking about when we're talking about that we think that we're going from a lower inflation environment the next three to five years to a higher inflation environment. Our memory of inflation, of course, is the last 10 years. And the last 10 years was in economic terms, kind of disappointing. Secular stagnation. So, I think what we're talking about is, we're probably coming out of a period that was quite deflationary, to not one that’s highly inflationary but simply one that's more reflationary. And so, that's why we think there's positive tailwinds for the real asset’s category, whether that's real estate, infrastructure, commodities, natural resource equities. Because there has been – that we're coming off of a decade of headwinds, where maybe people forgot the virtues of real assets in inflation sensitivity. I guess, as it relates to preferreds interest rates, like Joe said, look, there's a lot of debt in the world. We think that there's a lot of incentives for central banks, policymakers to keep interest rates low. And that's why we may be in some situation where growth is higher than trend, but central bank policy remains very, very supportive. That's why we still think that alternative income has a very valuable place in people's portfolio. Even though we may be feeling that base rates or risk-free rates, they were artificially low six months ago, and they're just normalizing to where they should go.