Hugo De Stoop
Analyst · Jefferies. Please go ahead and going
Yes, that’s for strategic reasons. So we are constantly in the market as you know and we are in all sorts of markets, so we’re looking at the bond market, we’re looking at the straight bank finance market, we’re looking at the sale and lease back market, but we always try to compare the different cost of capital. Now if you try to strip the bonds into an equivalent bank financing, you obviously have to add to the bank financing the features of the bond which are, that’s you are paying in bullets [ph], you are unsecured, and you are completely fixed in terms of interest rates, even though I know that the market probably fixed the rates comes – to come off and then those are the three features that you need to compare to. And then you are only slightly more expensive than the bank financing. And I think for a company of the size of Euronav it’s very important to divest five [ph], it’s sort of capital in general and in particular the source of debt, because as we are talking to the banks and has been relatively large balance sheet, we've seen the first signals that some of the banks that we are using or that we have been working with for many, many years, are slowly but surely reaching their limits on counterparties. So it has nothing to do with the credit worthiness of Euronav. It has to do with credit limits that they have overall in the market and cannot be exposed over a certain amount to a particular party. We’re not there yet, but we can feel the first signs of that and so we are trying to be very prudent and therefore decide to tap the bond. Second reason why we tapped the bond is when you look at the bond market, you can split it in different segments and the higher or the bigger the size of the bond, the better the marketability can go on. So $200 million was sort of always a target. We had raised initially $150 million. That was before the January transaction. But yes, we’re now bigger obviously and so we wanted to reach $200 million and when we will refine and set bond in two and a half, three years down the road, it should be easier because we should be able to tap a bigger pool of investors when it comes to the unsecured bonds, high yield bonds. So that’s - that explains what we have done there. I would say the overall pool of liquidity which we have, we understand that there is a part of the cash, there is a part of that is parked [ph] and we will bring credit line which are committed for a number of years. There’s a little bit of commercial paper which is more short term, and then there is the bond. I think that as we can never predict what sort of market is waiting for us, we have decided to have a policy of having around 50% leverage and then the liquidity that will enable us to operate for at least two years in any sort of market. And obviously what is excess of that can be used on any sort of transaction where we like to act rather promptly you may remember that we snapped the last week in just over two weeks and so you better have that liquidity available. And when it comes to generate, I think it’s fair to say that the process was a little bit longer, but reaching the terms of the agreement was much shorter than closing the deal with [indiscernible] the regulation and the public requirements that we had. But it was also a transaction that we executed fairly quickly because we had the comfort of the liquidity that we had at that time.