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Clean Energy Fuels Corp. (CLNE)

Q3 2015 Earnings Call· Thu, Nov 5, 2015

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Operator

Operator

Greetings, and welcome to the Clean Energy Fuels Third Quarter 2015 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only-mode. A question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. I’d now like to turn the conference over to your host Mr. Tony Kritzer, Director of Investor Relations. Thank you. You may begin.

Tony Kritzer

Analyst

Thank you, operator. Earlier this afternoon, Clean Energy released financial results for the third quarter ending September 30, 2015. If you did not receive the release, it is available on the Investor Relations section of the Company's Web site at www.cleanenergyfuels.com, where the call is also being webcast. There will be a replay available on the website for 30 days. Before we begin, we'd like to remind you that some of the information contained in the news release and on this conference call contains forward-looking statements that involve risks, uncertainties, and assumptions that are difficult to predict. Words of expression reflecting optimism, satisfaction with current prospects, as well as words such as believe, intend, expect, plan, should, anticipate, and similar variations, identify forward-looking statements, but their absence does not mean that the statement is not forward-looking. Such forward-looking statements are not a guarantee of performance, and the Company's actual results could differ materially from those contained in such statements. Several factors that could cause or contribute to such differences are described in detail in the Risk Factors section of Clean Energy's Form 10-Q, filed November 05, 2015. These forward-looking statements speak only as of the date of this release. The Company undertakes no obligation to publicly update any forward-looking statements or supply new information regarding the circumstances after the date of this release. The Company's non-GAAP EPS and adjusted EBITDA will be reviewed on this call, and excludes certain expenses that the Company's management does not believe are indicative of the Company's core business operating results. Non-GAAP financial measures should be considered in addition to results prepared in accordance with GAAP, and should not be considered as a substitute for, or superior to, GAAP results. The directly comparable GAAP information, reasons why management uses non-GAAP information, a definition of non-GAAP EPS and adjusted EBITDA, and a reconciliation between these non-GAAP and GAAP figures is provided in the Company's press release, which has been furnished to the SEC on Form 8-K today. Participating on today's call from the Company is President and Chief Executive Officer, Andrew Littlefair; and Chief Financial Officer, Bob Vreeland. And with that, I will turn the call over to Andrew.

Andrew Littlefair

Analyst

Thank you, Tony. Good afternoon everyone and thank you for joining us. I’m pleased to review our third quarter 2015 operating results with you today and I'm particularly pleased to announce that the Company's adjusted EBITDA turned positive this quarter which is a significant milestone. This is due in large part to both the continued growth in our volumes and by leveraging our station infrastructure which we've invested in over the last several years. In Q3 our volumes were 80.6 million gallons, a 17% increase over Q3 2014 and our revenues were $92 million. Importantly our margin per gallon has held up in the face of oil prices that are half of what they were last year. A perfect example of leveraging our infrastructure is our growing relationship with Raven Transport. It has deployed an additional 40 LNG trucks since we last reported. These trucks fuel at 21 of our stations on interstate corridors throughout the Southeast. Raven now operates 223 LNG trucks in their fleet. Another example is our customer Saddle Creek Logistics who just celebrated reaching the 50 million mile mark with their CNG fleet by announcing they are adding 50 CNG trucks to their existing fleet of 200 CNG tractors. During the quarter we have contracted over 300 new heavy-duty trucks which represent close to 4.5 million gallons annually. I think it is important to understand that despite lower diesel prices, fleets like Raven, Ryder, Waste Management and UPS are still making the transition to natural gas because of the economics remain compelling, but also because the price of natural gas continues to remain low and stable which is extremely important to fleet operators. And while load stable pricing continues to be a reason for fleet operators to switch we have seen a renewed focus on the…

Robert Vreeland

Analyst

Thank you, Andrew and good afternoon to everyone. It is my pleasure to go over our financial results for the third quarter ended September 30, 2015. We continue to make steady progress with our volume growth and improvement in our adjusted EBITDA. Our volume of 80.6 million gasoline gallon equivalents for the third quarter of 2015 represented a 17% increase on a year-over-year basis and our adjusted EBITDA of $3.1 million was an improvement of $5.7 million over the second quarter of 2015 and an improvement of $8.7 million over the first quarter of 2015. A year ago for the third quarter of 2014 our adjusted EBITDA was negative $2 million on higher revenues. Now I'll go over some specifics for the third quarter of 2015. Starting with volume compared to the third quarter 2014. Our volume growth of 17% came from refuse which increased to 29%. Transit and Fleet services combined increased 3%, trucking increased 13% , our industrial sector including our majority-owned subsidiary NG Advantage increased by 6.5 million gallons totaling 10 million gallons for the third quarter of 2015 And our biomethane plant volumes were down on a year-over-year basis by 1.7 million gallons principally from having to plants in operation in 2015 versus three plants in operation in 2014. As you may recall we sold our Dallas biomethane plant at the end of 2014. On a year-to-date basis through September 30 or volumes were up 19% or 37.5 million gallons over 2014. Our revenues of $92.3 million or $11.1 million less than a year ago which was principally from lower effective pricing on our volume related revenue, fewer fueling stations sold and a global softness in our compressor business. The lower effective pricing represented $5.7 million of the decline in revenue. Station construction revenues were down…

Operator

Operator

At this time, we will be conducting a question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from the line of Rob Brown from Lake Street Capital Markets. Please proceed with your question.

Rob Brown

Analyst

Good afternoon and congratulations on a good quarter.

Andrew Littlefair

Analyst

Thanks Rob.

Rob Brown

Analyst

On the EBITDA, the positive EBITDA run rate how do you see that’s sort of trending? Is this sort of a level you can build from or is it sort of bounce at this level and then depends on volume or how do you sort of see that EBITDA trending going forward?

Andrew Littlefair

Analyst

Well, the plan is for it to trend up. Now I will say that as I mentioned just a minute ago, we did have a couple gain items in there about $2.4 million, so I don’t expect that that will occur again, but other than that, then the idea is to continue to grow volumes and increase the EBITDA.

Rob Brown

Analyst

Okay, okay great. And then Andrew could you update us on the cost of the vehicles kind of coming in what the sort of economics and payback picture looks like in the current commodity environment?

Andrew Littlefair

Analyst

Sure, as I mentioned Rob a quarter ago, maybe it was as even a little longer ago, that we have, thank goodness for the industry the cost of the vehicles has come down some. We’ve seen the incremental cost over the last three, four years come down. Right now, some of the latest deals that we have seen and I’m not going to name the people that have taken the vehicles, but we’ve see LNG truck incremental pricing all end at $35,000 and we've seen CNG pricing it closure to $45,000. That’s down from where we had been half a year ago by $10,000 or more dollars per truck. So that’s good and then as you know that the prior where our margins or are at least our price per gallon and the differential between diesel has been compressed. So we’re seen paybacks on those kinds of trucks that are using 20 plus thousands gallons a year. The paybacks increased some. It is not too long ago where we were just outside of the year and I’d say now the payback is it depends. We have a real good customer, Matheson who is a bulk U.S. mail carrier, they do 40,000 gallons a year per truck. Obviously their payback is different, but payback has gone from over a year to closer to two years. We’re still able to save our customers anywhere between $0.50 to $0.75 and in some cases, $0.80, $0.85 a gallon.

Rob Brown

Analyst

Okay, great. Thank you very much.

Andrew Littlefair

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Next question comes from the line of Eric Stine from Craig Hallum. Please proceed with your question.

Eric Stine

Analyst · your question.

Hi everyone. Nice quarter.

Andrew Littlefair

Analyst · your question.

Thank you.

Robert Vreeland

Analyst · your question.

Thanks Eric.

Eric Stine

Analyst · your question.

So, obviously nice volume growth and you are leveraging the stations, may be can you just talk about kind of the trends you see, I don’t know if its buy doing kind of the same-store sales into a sales number for a station that's been open for a year? [Audio Gap]

Andrew Littlefair

Analyst · your question.

Raven units were at a handful stations, I'm kind of guessing here, but I want to say it was between five and six stations. Because we have, we've spent the capital because we have the corridors and stations that we could open now we’re feeling those actually were actually have last month fuel Raven’s trucks at actually 25 of our network stations, though I would say consistently they used 21. It is what we’ve seen as we’re able to because we have the network, we’ve seen station volume grow at not just the four, or five original stations but at many others. So the stations that we’ve opened that are truck friendly, the volumes have gone up now. Now look we all know we’re in a tough environment and we know that what we’ve been seeing is we haven’t had any of our customers that have been with the program turn back. Really to the contrary, we continue to see those have made significant investments continue to add tracks, which we’re pleased with that. They still see an economic reason and they still and they are getting the sustainability of benefit. We a year ago, we didn’t speak as much about this sustainability piece, but it is an important piece certainly for these consumer facing companies and it’s kind of real and not a day goes by that we are reading about global warming and new ethane emission standards and EPA standards, now this isn’t going unnoticed with our customers. But we haven’t seen any customers come back. Now I would say, let’s face at those customers that were on the fence this low diesel price is challenging and we are still in open dialogue with a lot of them. We are still doing work with some, we’re actually right now working with several new fleets to participate in this California program here that would be new to the program. So those are customers that believe we’re in a long downturn of diesel and oil prices. They’re taking a real hard look at it, others though, that we’ve worked with over time are continuing to add vehicles.

Eric Stine

Analyst · your question.

Okay. I mean just sticking with the environmental theme, I know that California recently, I guess it’s been there, but putting back in place the Low Carbon Fuel Standard, is that I mean the number one I would think that gives Redeem a pretty nice advantage in the market, but then also just curious, they put in the targets to reduce carbon intensity through 2020. Is that something that can have a meaningful impact on your margins as well, on your bottom line as well?

Andrew Littlefair

Analyst · your question.

Yes absolutely, we’re one of the biggest players in the Low Carbon Fuel Standard period. We, I don’t want to say we serve move and produce more low carbon fuel than anybody else. But we’re certainly near at the top if not at the top and so yes it’s important for us, just as our Redeem offering having UPS and some of these large fleets begin to, it is now mistake that they are availing themselves to Redeem. I mean that fuel is 90% less carbon and we’re seeing other large fleets going out to be bid on that. You know that we, the way because we have a big infrastructure in California and in other places with certainly California with Low Carbon Fuel Standard, all of the fuel that we put into our stations in California is able to get the low carbon fuel credit. But what is kind of interesting Eric is the down we’re having fleets go above and beyond that right and ask for Redeem in other states that gets the other federal credits and this is because they consider it very valuable for their customers and for what they are doing. So yes, it gives us a leg up and it gives us a way to work with customers that may be perhaps [indiscernible] appealing before and of course we make money on it.

Eric Stine

Analyst · your question.

Okay. Thanks for that color. Maybe last one from me just turn to NG Advantage, just curious thoughts there very successful what you’re doing thoughts about expanding that to other parts of the country or also is there an ability to expand to other locations with the International Paper? A - Andrew Littlefair International Paper I believe has two other pulp plants right now on it, down one in the Southeast and I cannot remember where the other one is. On natural gas, there are other paper mills, so we’re, I think you should right now think of NG Advantage is really in the region, it’s not just in Vermont and in Upstate, New York but that Northeast is a place where natural gas where it competes with fuel and so we are out bidding on new projects. You know the price of fuel is coming as well and now the good news I guess on that piece is there are stationary users of energy they have been using fuel and other fuels that really are under environmental pressures as well. So, the same sort of thing, kind of the two-pronged approach, not just price, but also environmental concerns is helping NG Advantage. We've looked at other deals with NG Advantage in other parts of the country. We have been on a few or we are betting on couple of others. I want to keep it. I think there is a plenty of business for them for the time being and for the size of that company to really focus in the Northeast and that’s what we will continue to really, you will see more deals add at there.

Eric Stine

Analyst · your question.

Okay, thanks a lot.

Andrew Littlefair

Analyst · your question.

Yes.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Jeffrey Schnell from Jefferies. Please proceed with your question.

Jeffrey Schnell

Analyst · your question.

Hi, good afternoon back to question earlier on incremental cost on the payback. Due to have optimal range that truck fleets or willing to switch that based on the conversation you are having with them.

Andrew Littlefair

Analyst · your question.

Sure, we – Jeffrey thanks. We have known for years and this is something that we saw in the refuse than others. We know that when you get down to a one-year payback it’s kind of a no brainer for these guys. Obviously, in the heavy-duty truck market they keep, – this is now I am talking about sort of the big boys, they've used a lot of miles and turning those vehicles over what in four years, they would like to see the payback inside two years, closer you can get to one year the better. So, we are little on the outer edge today of where they would like to see it. You know our refuse guys and I think it’s important for those on the phone to understand, our refuse customers, I mean this is from the very large like we are working today with the four largest companies in America and waste hasn't backed up at all, in fact they are at 95% of the new purchase of the natural gas and the republic is good as around 60%. Those in that incremental cost is around it kind of depends that vehicle cost is around 20 some odd thousand, 23, $25,000 for those that are buying a lot of trucks. So they are getting somewhere around a year and a half payback right now in the refuse. They are not getting any other credits or anything else and so that’s enough the environmental attributes and that kind of payback makes it work for them and it does really for many, many countries – companies in the refuse business.

Jeffrey Schnell

Analyst · your question.

Great, and then lastly you spoke about adding, can you talk about how that project becomes – comes to revenue and then are those volumes already guaranteed or how are those projects structured?

Andrew Littlefair

Analyst · your question.

Yes, so those Jeffrey and I may have slipped over that, but that was in the context to refuse use contracts so those are new refuse deals. Remember many of those will be where we are building the station and providing operation and maintenance services for them and yes we are under contract. Most of those and I don’t know exactly on those particular 17, but as you know or you may know and most of the rough use guys here are pointing their own capital. Now there are those where we spend the capital and of course when we do, we have take their pays and other kinds of contracts, but, yeah those are all under contract for us to either build them station and in the cases where we don’t go in the station and that would minority, we have anywhere from a three-year, five-year to even ten-year operating contracts with them.

Jeffrey Schnell

Analyst · your question.

Great.

Andrew Littlefair

Analyst · your question.

And then I would say that…

Jeffrey Schnell

Analyst · your question.

Yes, go ahead Bob.

Robert Vreeland

Analyst · your question.

Well now I was going to say on this, so the 17, you know pretty much is looking into our 2016 just relative to the timing and that sort of thing. And so we do get a nice low kind of advanced notice on our backlog relative to our station activity so…

Jeffrey Schnell

Analyst · your question.

Great, thank you.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from line of Pavel Molchanov from Raymond James. Please proceed with your questions.

Pavel Molchanov

Analyst · your questions.

Hey guys thanks for taking the question. There was a news article I think earlier this week referencing a new study from Power Systems' research saying that domestic NGV [ph] engine sales are flat this year versus up 27% last year. Is that consistent to what you are seeing in the market place?

Andrew Littlefair

Analyst · your questions.

I think that this year's Pavel I think that this year's heavy-duty truck sales are going to be about flat on what they were last year, that’s I've probably heard the same things you have. I wasn’t familiar with the 27% last year, but I’ll take that, but I’m kind of thinking that the class 8 numbers were about the same as what they were last year and I guess given the current fuel environment that we're in I consider that probably pretty good. I have heard on the refuse and you’d to going to taking this from just the industry information that comes into us from time to time as that, it appears that the refuse numbers and I don’t know if this is right now Pavel going today, going forward or in this quarter, I’m not exactly sure if They will kind of up on those going into the refuse use markets. So I like that news and consider that good.

Pavel Molchanov

Analyst · your questions.

Okay and then just a kind of a small housekeeping item, I know you will file the Q later on, but what was cash flow from operations in the quarter?

Andrew Littlefair

Analyst · your questions.

Yes, that was about $1.8 million for the quarter. So, on a year-to-date basis I think we’re at like minus 1 versus last year we were at minus $56 million. So we have about a $55 million improvement there in the operating cash.

Pavel Molchanov

Analyst · your questions.

Including the [indiscernible] right?

Andrew Littlefair

Analyst · your questions.

Including the [indiscernible] yes.

Pavel Molchanov

Analyst · your questions.

That got it, all right, thank you guys.

Andrew Littlefair

Analyst · your questions.

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

There are no further questions at this time. Mr. Littlefair would you like to make any closing remarks?

Andrew Littlefair

Analyst

Sure, thank you, thank you operator and thank you everyone for dialing into our earnings call this afternoon. We look forward to updating you all on our progress in the next quarter.