Carrie Brownstein
Management
From a development perspective, I'm happy to take it. I think that, again, a lot of where you were going to end up positioning these programs and these products in the market space is going to be dependent on the data. I think what's extremely important to recognize when we're talking about allogeneic CAR T cells versus the current autologous space is that I don't know if competition is the right word, but, again, given their easy accessibility, the fact that they're in the clinical ready, they're in the freezer, you don't need to wait for manufacturing between patients. It changes the entire paradigm of treatment for CAR T versus the autologous space. So, while the autologous space has been great and has been more of a kind of a second line or after, as you said, the bispecifics, I think provided these data are strong enough, I think that we don't need the specialized centers and, and, and, and, even if data isn't as strong, let's say, as – which I think it will be, but let's say it's not as strong as an autologous 19 or something, I don't think that's going to matter. I think the fact that physicians can get their hands on it and give it to patients quickly is going to be huge and really change how the treatment paradigm is set up from standard of care purposes, so to speak, from all of the key players who are treating patients. So, I think, again, it'll depend on the data. If the data, obviously, aren't as strong, then maybe it would come after. But I think our positioning is going to be as strong as possible based on the data. And then, you have to also remember, when we're looking at data and comparing, it's actually more helpful to almost compare against bispecifics versus the CAR Ts because, remember, when you look at the data and the labels for all of these autologous therapies have been approved, their denominators are based only on patients who've received cells and they throw out all of the patients who either they had a manufacturing failure or it was an out-of-spec product or that the patient progressed prior to getting treated. And so, if you actually redo a lot of those numbers, the response rates and PFS and everything, it's just much, much, much lower than what's in the label. And so, we need to be extremely careful when we're comparing. And that's part of the reason those CAR T cell therapies look so much better than bispecifics as well. So, yeah. So, I think we could be clearly in any position, which is what makes this so exciting.