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Q3 2018 Earnings Call· Wed, Nov 7, 2018

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Operator

Operator

Good morning, and welcome to the CECO Environmental Conference Call. All participants will be in a listen-only mode. [Operator Instructions] Please also note today's event is being recorded. At this time, I'd like to turn the conference over to Matt Eckl, Chief Financial Officer of CECO Environmental. Please go ahead.

Matt Eckl

Analyst

Thank you for joining us on the CECO Environmental third quarter 2018 conference call. On the call today is Dennis Sadlowski, Chief Executive Officer; and myself, Matt Eckl, Chief Financial Officer. Before we begin, I'd like to note that we have provided a slide presentation to help guide our discussion. The call will be webcast along with our earnings presentation on our Web site at cecoenviro.com. The presentation material can be accessed through the Investor Relations section of the Web site. I'd also like to caution investors regarding forward-looking statements. Any statements made in today's presentation that are not based on historical fact are forward-looking statements. Such statements are based on certain estimates and expectations and are subject to a number of risks and uncertainties. Actual future results may vary materially from those expressed or implied by the forward-looking statements. We encourage you to read the risks described in our SEC filings on Form 10-K for the year ended December 31, 2017. Except to the extent required by applicable securities laws, we undertake no obligation to update or publicly revise any of the forward-looking statements that we make here today whether as a result of new information, future events or otherwise. Today's presentation will also include references to certain non-GAAP financial measures. We have reconciled the comparable GAAP and non-GAAP numbers in today's press release, as well as the supplemental tables in the back of the slide deck. And now, I'll turn the call over to Dennis.

Dennis Sadlowski

Analyst

Good morning. Thank you for joining us. And I hope your top candidates came through in the U.S. elections yesterday. As in the past, we've divided this morning's call into several parts. First, I'll highlight our strong third quarter results. In fact, let me say upfront that we've performed very well. That'll then follow up with a discussion of financial details, and finally I'll wrap up with a review of our end market outlook before we open up the call to your questions. I'll begin this morning where we left off last quarter. I continue to be very excited about our growing momentum, providing for excellent results with a very strong third quarter across CECO Environmental. Turning to slide three, I want to mention that today's call marks the one-year anniversary since we launched our 4-3-3 operating strategy. When our 4-3-3 operating strategy was launched I was confident that it would set us on a path to win share and create value. At that time, we announced a range of commitments and initiatives with the intent of fundamentally transforming the way CECO does business, and placing a premium on organic growth. The strategy was designed to help us genuinely deliver on our value proposition of enabling industrial companies to grow with clean, safe, and more efficient solutions that protect our shared environment. Transforming CECO involved three major strategic initiatives, which included several tough decisions and aggressive steps. First, we changed how we do business through our four value-creation enablers and involve both subtle and disruptive actions. Second, we actively shaked our portfolio and organizational structure to more efficiently and effectively address our compelling end market. And third, we invested into three growth platforms aligned to winnable and compelling end markets. I want to emphasize that all three of our target…

Matt Eckl

Analyst

Thanks, Dennis. Like Dennis, I am very pleased with the great progress we have made in the last year and the momentum building across the organization. Starting on slide nine, our comment on some of the key points surrounding what was a very solid quarter for CECO. As a quick point of reference, like for like comparisons have been provided to exclude the impact of divestures in prior period. Comparables on a reported basis are available in our 10-Q. That being said, revenues from core operations grew 13% year-over-year in the third quarter and 9% sequentially. Non-GAAP gross margin at 32.5% were in line with our expectation as we are managing input cost pressures as well paying the balance of our [indiscernible] to a greater portion of new original equipment win. We posted $6.5 million of non-GAAP operating income in the quarter which was up 67% year-over-year and 25% sequentially. EBITDA followed suit by growing 51% year-on-year and 20% sequentially. We are clearly building momentum. With both operating income and EBITDA, you'll see margin expansion of four points which is indicative of the operating leverage we get wrap. In October, we signed an agreement with the Zhongli business, exiting the China coal power-generation market. With this pending divestiture, we booked non-cash impairment charge of $15 million in our Q3 financials, reducing the Zhongli asset preferred value based in the sale agreement and moving the business to an asset held-for-sale status on the balance sheet. This charge is reflected in our GAAP operating income, which drove the negative $10 million operating loss. The Zhongli unit has been an asset-heavy business within CECO, and with the structurally-challenged third end market, we see this transaction is having limited impact on our future operating performance, and more importantly, we expect it to be value…

Dennis Sadlowski

Analyst

Thanks, Matt. Turning to slide 17, I want to share some quick thoughts on the outlook of our end market before moving on to your questions. Clearly, we are entering the fourth quarter with considerable momentum and some impressive wins across CECO Environmental. Our teams are visible in the market and focused on providing valuable solutions for our customer. As I look ahead, I sense that the markets are going to be a bit more challenging, still growing but at a slower rate. Power Gen has been hurting for the last 18 months. And there is sign of an immediate change for the better. And while the rest of our served end markets are healthy and stable, the rate of growth may be flattening. Our aim remains on further gains in market share. With slide 17 as your reference, let me offer a few thoughts in each of our end segments, beginning with our Energy Solutions end market. I'll start at the top, with our Refinery segment. As you might recall, we were ready when this segment rebounded at the end of last year. The bounce-back was welcomed, and we've maintained a strong hit rate through the cycle. Going forward, we don't expect the same growth in the Refinery segment, but it remains healthy and its stability should mean solid activity into the New Year. I'll point out that this is a segment where we generally highlight only our Emtrol-Buell brand of market-leading FCC Cyclones. However, refiners are posting solid financial results so they're actively investing in their operations in way that ensure that they are cleaner and safer producers. This in turn is creating opportunities for both Emtrol-Buell as well as our Peerless team's NOx-removing SDR System. Working counterclockwise, the Midstream Oil & Gas market segment continues to be…

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, at this time, we'll begin the question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] And our first question today comes from Sean Hannan from Needham and Company. Please go ahead with your question.

Sean Hannan

Analyst

Yes, thanks. Good morning. Thanks for taking the question here. Congratulations on the results. First one I want to start with is just follow-up on some of your comments, Dennis, on looking into next year and the markets in terms of growth. So just trying to understand, is this perhaps a reflection that we're going to see a little bit of a slower pace from a revenue standpoint kind of coming off of what was a bit of a bounce that occurred here in '18, or is that really in terms of bookings and the ability to bring in some higher dollar-level bookings? I do appreciate that there's certainly a lag time, right, between what we accomplish in brining in the wins and then when it'll hit the top line, so just trying to understand the difference between the two to better understand the comments there. Thanks.

Dennis Sadlowski

Analyst

Yes. So, Sean, good morning, and thank you. What I think you should take away, if anything, is our markets in the aggregate are still growing. So we're pleased with that. We see opportunities. Our markets are large, they're sizable, there's a lot of room for us to continue to gain share. And so that is the overall view of what we see, with the exception, of course, of the power gen market. Now, if you look at our, both reporting and what we've broken out in terms of outlook, expectations, and then year-over-year results, you see that our team in power gen has still been way outperforming the market. And so to a degree that's what I'm signaling, it's going to continue to be difficult. What we've been doing is just nothing short of fantastic. I think it's good. The markets are still growing. If anything, there's a slowing growth that maybe we're seeing in terms with decision-making going on across a lot of the industrial segment. Where that takes us in the next year, I think it's way too early to tell, but I think we have a lot of good momentum. Backlog we've built will then likely be an indicator of revenue increases going forward, and team is very committed to continuing to gain market share along the way.

Sean Hannan

Analyst

Okay, that's helpful. And then, industrial, it sounded like you're seeing across a lot of different areas. Are there any sub-segments that particularly stand out or is it truly, truly broad-based?

Dennis Sadlowski

Analyst

In industrial, I think that we are still experiencing a fairly broad segment-related improvement, particularly here in North America, where I think as we mentioned on other calls and I'm sure you've heard from others, that the tax changes at the corporate level have put on the margin the U.S. and North America a better place to invest in manufacturing. So that's a positive. We have a very diversified set of end markets, and so there isn't one particular area within our industrial segment, both Fluid Handling or our Industrial Solutions segment that particularly stands out in any way.

Sean Hannan

Analyst

Okay, all right. So condition sounds certainly very good. All right, question for Matt, just clarification on gross margins. Should we expect mix or other factors to pull the margin down sequentially in the fourth quarter or should we be interpreting when we talk about the 32.5% that that's actually holding steady through the year versus it being a reflection of the aggregate?

Matt Eckl

Analyst

Yes, full-year we're still expecting to be between 32% and 33%, as we've indicated in our prior calls. Obviously, I mentioned on the call that we do have some commodity pressure. We have been offsetting that as best as possible. And then there's been the question around tariffs in the past. And I would say that there is minor rest [ph], we have one large project that'll certainly impact that in Q4. But for the most part, we're still expecting to be in the 32% to 33% range for the full-year, as previously communicated.

Sean Hannan

Analyst

Okay, so -- but mathematically that would indicate will tick down a little bit in 4Q?

Matt Eckl

Analyst

Correct. Yes.

Sean Hannan

Analyst

Okay, all right. Thanks so much, folks.

Dennis Sadlowski

Analyst

Yes, thanks, Sean. And thanks for joining us.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Carter Driscoll from B. Riley FBR. Please go ahead with your question.

Carter Driscoll

Analyst · your question.

Good morning, guys. Thanks for taking my questions.

Dennis Sadlowski

Analyst · your question.

Good morning, Carter.

Carter Driscoll

Analyst · your question.

Hey, guys. And maybe just back up a sec. At a high level, obviously, you're still in the process of really remaking this organization. Can you talk, maybe Dennis or Matt, your criteria for your divestitures, outside the obvious, if they're not performing financially. I mean is it a level of the concentration of the competitors, the potential for share gain, ability to price, maybe from a portfolio perspective does it help offset from cyclicality. Just trying to get a sense of what those high level drivers are in terms of what's left going forward in terms or planning --

Dennis Sadlowski

Analyst · your question.

Yes, so I'd be happy to. When we laid out our strategy and communicated that about the year ago here externally on our similar calls from 2017, what we said and what we're all about is leadership in fluid handling and air quality improvement. And so the business units that ended up on the bubble, and subsequently we've divested three units, Keystone, which was more of a residential filtration business, fairly small revenue, where we didn't think we were the best owner to really continue to grow and make that work; Strobic, which was mostly serving a commercial market, so not serving the industrial customer base and had limited synergy to cross into our other areas. And most recently, while we haven't divested yet, we have intention to do so the Zhongli business. And meeting product lines there, our [indiscernible] mills for crushing and managing coal at coal power generation stations in China. So I think we've been fairly clear about what we like, and our criteria around portfolio at this juncture has been very much related to those decisions that we made when we re-communicated the strategy going forward. As we get our portfolio aligned we like what we're doing. We're generating solid new growth around that. And as we look forward, forward will also be when is it appropriate to get back to acquiring other businesses to further try and grow our position in what still is a pretty distributed market. You should look to the three-year financial targets that we set forward, businesses in areas that we think we can outgrow the market, that generate solid EBITDA return on sales, that have a high degree of earnings into cash flow generation, and a low asset intensity. Those are things we like. Those are things we think that help generate top tier returns for our shareholders. And those are things we believe we're good at leading and moving forward.

Carter Driscoll

Analyst · your question.

Okay, that's helpful. Thank you. So you've laid out maybe a slight softening of end market demand. Is it fair to characterize the softening as more of a reaction to somewhat of an uncertain global environment to increasing trade hindrances, whether from tariffs or just geopolitical problems, versus -- I guess I'm trying to rank the factors versus an uptick in input prices and/or kind of just a natural leveling after maybe a fairly protracted global expansion out of the '09 debacle. And just trying to get a sense are we going to a more normalized environment and/or you can still take share in that environment or are we heading or prefacing a recessionary environment or a near zero growth environment, and would that be reflected or reflective in maybe a weakening of our backlog conversion and/or trying to close some of these deals may be an extension of the timeframe to do so?

Dennis Sadlowski

Analyst · your question.

Yes, so let me first say what I hopefully communicated with slowing growth, not any kind of contracting expectations. Keep in mind that on a trailing 12 months, our orders are up 34% over the prior year. And we've added $65 million to the backlog. So we've put ourselves in a very good position for future revenue gains based on the strength of what the team's been doing, the share gains that we've been making. And so all I wanted to help communicate is what we're seeing is, and it's reflected on slide number 17, I believe, is by end market segment kind of how we're seeing the outlook as compared to the periods we're just coming from. We have a stable pipeline of ongoing demand in most of these segments. We have fairly broad diversification in the industrial segment. Refinery has popped very strongly for us. And so we can see that it's continuing to be strong in what our outlook would be. Oil & Gas, similarly, there are some big EPC contracts being awarded all around the world that would have future potential demands for us. And absolutely, we're about trying to gain share. And so the message that I was communicating was some reduction of the growth rate in the external markets, as we see it. And what are factors, the factors are yet some of the geopolitical with tariffs and the like, some of the factors around inflationary affects that cause people to think twice, three times before they pull the trigger on new investment. And this Power Gen segment here for new power demand and new gas turbine power demand in particular, which is where we're strong and focused and have been doing quite frankly outstandingly well, and areas where it's just going to continue to be tough. So, I know our team is up to it, and I expect that we'll continue to lean in to that. But don't see anything that I would say, not sure what your words were, but declining. It is more of a slowing growth rate that we're seeing in the current activity.

Matt Eckl

Analyst · your question.

And, Carter, one think I'd like to just add is, Dennis was talking about outlook in orders. As it pertains to revenue and the trajectory of revenue, I'd like to remind you that for most of our business it's long cycle, so revenue trails orders by about two to three quarters on average.

Carter Driscoll

Analyst · your question.

Yes. I know you guys have don't an excellent job billing the book, I'm just trying to think of on a fuller basis, not implying that things have been in decline, just the rate of deceleration in terms of from modeling perspective. Would you see that in the backlog conversion, maybe ticking down a little bit. Would that be where you would see it reflected over a period of quarters?

Dennis Sadlowski

Analyst · your question.

If your backlog conversion -- our backlog does continue, you know, turns to revenue, again, as Matt said, over a period of somewhere between two and four quarters.

Carter Driscoll

Analyst · your question.

Yes.

Dennis Sadlowski

Analyst · your question.

And so the growth in backlog that we've been generating is absolutely a precursor of improving revenues in future periods.

Carter Driscoll

Analyst · your question.

Got it. Okay. Maybe just two quick other ones; so in power gen, you know, you've highlighted the capacity demand mismatch is one of the primary drivers, growth in electricity demand, overall from industrial and residential and certainly and what we've seen as somewhat of a flattening of that growth in the curve despite what you've seen whether it's from efficiency or migration away from consumption, is that a primary driver of the mismatch or is it more specific to maybe some of the travails of the leading four players of that market? Just trying to get a sense of how that turns when it turns, is this a maybe cyclical or stagnation that seems to be the one drag potentially of your core business segment, I mean, of…

Dennis Sadlowski

Analyst · your question.

Yes, from an end market point of view it's been a drag from an actual performance point of view. I think you'd see that if we have been growing even in the power gen segment in its current state where you can read from the big players on what's happening at GE, Siemens, et cetera. So what we see in power gen started a little -- about a year-and-a-half ago, which is there were quite a few coal projects converting over to cleaner sources of fuel, like gas creating quite a bit of gas turbine, new demand along with global demand for electricity and some of that caught the bigger players off guard because of the increasing impact of renewables into the system. So you have efficiencies, you have renewables and you had this coal conversion if I might to cleaner sources that were driving the peak that then came to an end about a year-and-a-half ago, and so now we're in a bit of a cyclical trough and the big players are trying to adjust to how do they see that new reality and our anticipation is that gas and gas power generation will continue to be a very important part of the overall energy mix if not a more important mix as more renewables are placed in the system. If you study the market and have the background, you would know that to provide high robust, high nine reliability in the power system, you're not going to get it from a completely intermittent source like wind or like solar and so you need to supplement that with something. And honestly, what -- while our battery business is in a interesting new technology space it's far from in a position to be competitive with gas and those kind of things. So we do see demand still in the medium and longer term still coming back to healthy position and even from the position we're in today, I think you would have to agree with me that the orders growth that we've been able to generate over the last few quarters in this sub segment of our business which was over 100% from a year ago in third quarter is just phenomenal and a demonstration that our team is getting the right things done that the technical strength of what we've done in the past and what we can do in the future is valuable to the market.

Carter Driscoll

Analyst · your question.

No, your performance over the past -- over your [technical difficulty] has obviously been stellar, not too…

Dennis Sadlowski

Analyst · your question.

Yes, it's been with very little with what we would say real, new demand per gigawatt since a lot of it has been in the strength of ground field upgrade and retrofit.

Carter Driscoll

Analyst · your question.

Yes. No, absolutely. It is the last one for me. In terms of helping with rising input costs, how does that play into your pricing strategy, is it one where you're hoping to pass along or to share some of the pain, how does that play into your competitive strategy from what you could see from rising inputs, it don't seem to be moving in the other direction?

Dennis Sadlowski

Analyst · your question.

Good question, and we have addressed this as well on calls in the past. The lion's share of our business being application oriented, we can price using spot costs from the market and so we have the ability in most cases to pass on what is happening in terms of spot costs or input materials in our input costs. As pressure has come from the bottom largely through the period of announced tariffs, in metals and those kinds of input costs, we shortened the timeframe of how long our quotes are standing before they have to be updated and so we've been able to manage through the cycle fairly well at holding on strong margins, at maintaining -- I would say the spread between input cost increases and pricing for the most part. Where that starts to have a limitation is when we're not the only ones having to price in increases and customers making investment decisions are starting to see broader cost increases in their expectation that might slow down their overall investment appetite or new lines, new production and those kinds of things. So that's a little bit of where we see our impact more secondarily. For the most part, we're able to price in spot costs in the market.

Carter Driscoll

Analyst · your question.

Appreciate you taking on the questions, gentlemen, thank you.

Dennis Sadlowski

Analyst · your question.

Yes, thanks Carter.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Gerry Sweeney from ROTH Capital. Please go ahead with your question.

Gerry Sweeney

Analyst · your question.

Hey, good morning

Dennis Sadlowski

Analyst · your question.

Good morning, Gerry.

Matt Eckl

Analyst · your question.

Good morning, Gerry.

Gerry Sweeney

Analyst · your question.

Just to follow-up a little bit more on the power side, curious as to when -- particular on the energy, the natural gas and the coal side. At what point would you start to see a pickup, I mean, would it be once the products are to hit the drawing board again? In other words, would you get a visibility into that market a year ahead of time or when would discussion start with [indiscernible] up?

Dennis Sadlowski

Analyst · your question.

It's good question. We are probably somewhere half a year or so often in terms of when our, call it orders and to come after new demand contracts have been placed more often with the larger OEMS, but that can vary. There are times when there are very fast tracked projects and with the restructuring going on by some of the larger OEMs in this space, where they are taking out some of the fixed resources that they would otherwise have had in place, they need to rely on people who can do things quickly and that's where we fill in as well, but probably, six to nine months, depending on the type of project.

Gerry Sweeney

Analyst · your question.

Okay. And then on power gen, is it about 40% of the energy revenue, is that a fair guesstimate -- I'm sorry, I'm looking at Page 17, just trying to add it all real quick.

Dennis Sadlowski

Analyst · your question.

Yes, so 17 relative values -- Page 17, i.e. for everybody and yourself Gerry, are based on the aggregated 2017 revenue mix.

Gerry Sweeney

Analyst · your question.

Okay.

Dennis Sadlowski

Analyst · your question.

So we have in natural gas about 24% and in solid fuels, so coal and nuclear, about 7%. I think you can do the math and see that the 7% has been coming down and so we're in that range in the past in terms of what's our end market mix.

Matt Eckl

Analyst · your question.

And Gerry, if you take the TTM orders basis, because that's the most relevant and [technical difficulty] most recent, power gen net gas is 35% of the Energy segment.

Gerry Sweeney

Analyst · your question.

Got it. But that was 2017, is that…

Matt Eckl

Analyst · your question.

No, my…

Gerry Sweeney

Analyst · your question.

Oh, no, you got TTM, I'm sorry, yes.

Matt Eckl

Analyst · your question.

Yes, TTM you were asking how big power gen net gas --

Gerry Sweeney

Analyst · your question.

Yes.

Matt Eckl

Analyst · your question.

- was of the piece of energy. It's 35% of energy.

Gerry Sweeney

Analyst · your question.

Got it. Okay. And then take -- sorry, go ahead Matt.

Matt Eckl

Analyst · your question.

Yes. You want the company numbers as well, Gerry?

Gerry Sweeney

Analyst · your question.

No, that's fine, that's fine.

Dennis Sadlowski

Analyst · your question.

Okay.

Gerry Sweeney

Analyst · your question.

Taking a little bit of a step back from a macro perspective or you know, in terms about growth. So obviously we've had a nice pick up in orders and revenue etcetera. I take it some of it's rebounded some end market i.e. in Tokyo, you were seeing demand market growth, you did some revamp in sales positioning etcetera, is there anything else outside of there areas that you see that could add -- actually add incremental growth, and I'm taking maybe investment in certain areas, things that you need, things that you still want to continue to do, excluding some of the things I just mentioned?

Dennis Sadlowski

Analyst · your question.

Well, there is no doubt that we think we have opportunities in a lot of under-capped part of our market. I would say that even in the strength of our U.S. industrial targets, we have a lot of room to continue to outperform the market substantially considering the fragmented nature of the overall served markets. But we are finding some good opportunities as well through our global growth, you know what, substantially this year in India, finding some industrial opportunities in Europe, where in the past we have done very little, and subsequent to the Zhongli sale we are looking to get back to rebuilding the rest of our business in China as well. So I think there is still a lot of potential out in front of the company and it's -- those are just a few geographic areas that we think are important. We began investing in innovation. So that we're also thinking about new product or services for the markets we serve and that too help us continue with our long-term target to outgrow the markets by 2x.

Gerry Sweeney

Analyst · your question.

Got it. And then fluid handling, one of my more favorable segment just because of the margin profile etcetera, it sounds like things are going pretty well there; you said 14% uptick, what's driving that growth? I know you were even piggybacking [indiscernible] marketing into new areas with the pump business etcetera. Just curious as to what's driving that growth to gain demand on that.

Dennis Sadlowski

Analyst · your question.

Yes. In this case I would have to say a lot of it is good market activity, good visibility by our team in the market, and as well some of the innovative adaptations what we are making to our products like the Dual Seal RTA Pump. These are areas that provide the customer productivity while still protecting the environment, sort of speak in this case from any kind of oil leakage into [indiscernible] application. So that's where we see and that's why we discuss with as a part of a strategy some investments that we need to make to continue to keep up with the growth that is out there in the market at the potential that our team can get. It's a good result so far, and we have some more work to do to continue to ensure that we can deliver on lead times high quality with what currently is still a very high mix of business, low back size high mix business.

Gerry Sweeney

Analyst · your question.

Got it. And then, Matt, just a quick question, obviously working capital, there was a little bit of disappointment in the third quarter, but expect a jump in the fourth quarter and orders pushed into -- I'm sorry, pushed into October, is that a fair statement, no offerings being equal…

Matt Eckl

Analyst · your question.

Yes.

Gerry Sweeney

Analyst · your question.

Okay, great, thanks guys. I appreciate taking the time today for answering my questions.

Dennis Sadlowski

Analyst · your question.

Yes. Thanks, Gerry.

Matt Eckl

Analyst · your question.

Thanks, Gerry.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from Bill Baldwin from Baldwin Securities. Please go ahead with your question.

Bill Baldwin

Analyst · your question.

Thank you, and good morning, Matt, Dennis.

Dennis Sadlowski

Analyst · your question.

Good morning, Bill.

Matt Eckl

Analyst · your question.

Good morning, sir.

Bill Baldwin

Analyst · your question.

Congratulations on the job that you all have been accomplishing here over the last year, year-and-a-half, that's definitely showing up.

Dennis Sadlowski

Analyst · your question.

Thank you.

Bill Baldwin

Analyst · your question.

Yes, I know it's been a lot of hard work. Can you kind of talk a little bit about the performance of your contract manufacturers, how they are performing in line with your expectations, and whether or not they have the capability and capacity to continue to grow as you continue to grow your business over the next several years?

Dennis Sadlowski

Analyst · your question.

Yes. Thanks, Bill. One of the reasons that -- there is couple of reasons that we really like our asset-light business model that for the most part uses production partners for a lot of what we do in manufacturing. And one of which is of course the variable nature of the cost structure that gives us. So that when the markets are down, we have a variable going down; when the markets are up, it gives us virtually infinite capacity. And so, your question was how are they positioned and are we able to keep up? And I would say this is again one of the strengths of what we do, especially getting better and better at viewing the pipeline, what's coming in and trying to prepare ourselves for where the demand is that we are very well-positioned. For the most part, I would say we are absolutely not only keeping up, but demonstrating that strength in front of customers what we are -- where they need somebody who can deliver on time, deliver with high-quality and deliver to all parts of the world. So I would say we are very well-positioned here. We continue to put a great degree of emphasis there because it's important to our customers that they continue to feel like we deliver, and we deliver on our commitment whether that is delivering services for the aftermarket, add-ons, ideas, to improve their operation or whether that is delivering on the timetables and cost schedules of new OE projects.

Bill Baldwin

Analyst · your question.

Well, that really puts you in a strong competitive position if you got that kind of performance coming out of our contract manufacturers.

Dennis Sadlowski

Analyst · your question.

Yes. We think so…

Bill Baldwin

Analyst · your question.

I guess you've had a longstanding relationship with a lot of these folks, I mean the long-term relationship you have been.

Dennis Sadlowski

Analyst · your question.

Yes, absolutely. I think you might know that is all over the world, so we have strength in manufacturers in China and Asia [technical difficulty] we have in Europe as well as in North America, Mexico, Canada and the U.S. And so we are able to drop on their strength depending on where projects are, what the customer demand profile is, and where the individual product capability needs to be.

Bill Baldwin

Analyst · your question.

And just one final -- area here, when you talk about that you are saying potential, Dennis, out of Europe and India and so forth and your industrial air quality area, is that market intelligence, Dennis, is coming from your own direct sales force or is that coming through other avenues or other channels into CE you know, into CECO?

Dennis Sadlowski

Analyst · your question.

Yes…

Bill Baldwin

Analyst · your question.

-- and retails markets is I guess is what I'm really trying to get a hand on…

Dennis Sadlowski

Analyst · your question.

Yes. So, for the most part, our initial reach in many cases today, Bill, is still our direct sales people, which have applications strength. So we have guys in India on direct staff. We also -- and in Europe we have a couple of business units headquartered in Europe, and so we are able to tap into as well. The colleagues from other business unit as needed to get in front of customers where we see demand whether that is -- us in Germany visiting couple of German customers, one of which though is for large potential opportunity here in the States. The other is where local opportunity where they're familiar with the technology leadership that we have in a particular area, and believe that they need that for their environmental compliance-oriented demand into a couple of site, production sites that they have in country there. So, a lot of that originally comes through our direct guys and our direct regional leaders also have reps in a number of the key markets that help with the reach.

Bill Baldwin

Analyst · your question.

Got it. Is your engineering talent basically domestically, or do you have some engineering talent also in some of these overseas locations…

Dennis Sadlowski

Analyst · your question.

Our engineering talent is distributed largely by technical area into a variety of offices around the world, both domestic, U.S. here, China, Dubai, we're adding some strength in India and we have two key technical businesses based out of the Netherlands.

Bill Baldwin

Analyst · your question.

Okay. Thank you very much, and wish you continued success.

Dennis Sadlowski

Analyst · your question.

Yes, thank you, Bill. Thanks for your questions. Thanks for joining us this morning.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, that does conclude today's question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the conference call back over to management for any closing remarks.

Dennis Sadlowski

Analyst

Okay, well, thank you, and thank all of you for joining us today. You know, I hope that you agree that our 4-3-3 operating strategy is gaining traction. And the third quarter demonstrated continued momentum and solid market wins. We look forward to discussing with you again our full-year results on our next call. Thanks again.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, that conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect your lines.