Christopher Bogart
Analyst
And next, we've got a webcast question from Dennis Troy. Chris mentioned Burford is barely a teenager in the litigation and finance industry, does this YPF ruling take Burford into adulthood? And does it meaningfully improve Burford's competitive position for new commitments at all? So, I think the answer is, yes, in the following sense. The - when we started this business 14 years ago, the challenge that we faced then was an educational challenge. People didn't know what this idea was really, they weren't accustomed to using capital like this. And so, the first half of our life, anyway, to talk to the analogy of the childhood years, were spent really educating the legal industry about what they could do with capital and of course, having educated them, then being the capital provider to them. What has happened over time is that the concept of legal finance and frankly our brand has become much more ubiquitous in the legal industry. So, it's rare now for me to meet a partner at a law firm or an in-house lawyer who does not both know the concept of legal finance and Burford. And we've historically released some research showing that our brand recognition in the industry is extraordinarily high leaps and bounds beyond anyone else. And so, basically whenever we have a high-profile event, that further - that is either successful or merely affirming, what that does is it further solidifies in the minds of potential users of that capital that this is a real thing, that we are a real business and this is a real thing. And so, events like the 60 Minutes interview last year which was watched by millions and millions of people did that. The kind of media furor that there has been over the YPF decisions has done that. And even things like the media coverage over our litigation in the food antitrust cases on behalf of Cisco, which was a disclosed $140 million transaction, even that did that because it caused corporate clients to say - to also have a little bit of FOMO, fear of missing out. Gee, my competitors are taking $140 million or now as Jordan said, $325 million from Burford. What am I doing? And I suspect that every day, every time that happens, there are people in the C-suite looking at the General Counsel and looking at the CFO and saying, well, why aren't we doing that? So, that's I think what we're asked. And now, I think we've got another telephone question.