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Bloomin' Brands, Inc. (BLMN)

Q2 2025 Earnings Call· Wed, Aug 6, 2025

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Operator

Operator

Greetings, and welcome to the Bloomin' Brands, Inc. Second Quarter 2025 Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] It is now my pleasure to introduce your host, Tara Kurian, Vice President, Corporate Finance and Investor Relations. Thank you, Ms. Kurian. You may begin.

Tara Kurian

Analyst

Thank you, and good morning, everyone. With me on today's call are Mike Spanos, our Chief Executive Officer; and Michael Healy, Chief Financial Officer and Executive Vice President. By now, you should have access to our fiscal second quarter 2025 earnings release and our investor presentation slides, both of which can be found on our website at www.bloominbrands.com. -- in the Investors section. Throughout this conference call, we will be presenting results on an adjusted basis. An explanation of our use of non-GAAP financial measures and reconciliations to the most directly comparable GAAP measures appear in our earnings release and investor presentation on our website as previously described. Before we begin formal remarks, I'd like to remind everyone that part of our discussion today will include forward-looking statements, including a discussion of recent trends. These statements are subject to numerous risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ in a material way from our forward-looking statements. Some of these risks are mentioned in our earnings release. Others are discussed in our SEC filings, which are available at www.sec.gov. During today's call, we'll provide a brief recap of our financial performance for the second quarter 2025, an overview of company highlights and current thoughts on fiscal 2025 guidance. Once we've completed these remarks, we'll open the call up for questions. With that, I would now like to turn the call over to Mike Spanos.

Michael Spanos

Analyst

Thanks, Tara, and good morning, everyone. Before I get into our business update, I would like to discuss the changes to our senior leadership team that were announced earlier this week. As I've previously stated, my initial focus has been on our operational priorities, listening and learning from our restaurant operators to best support them in simplifying the agenda and driving consistency of execution to deliver a great guest experience with a priority on Outback. This has been important to foster a culture that is grounded in our founders' principles and beliefs, executing with an operational mindset and a passion for guest hospitality. I've also discussed our urgent and deliberate work on the Bloomin Brands strategy centered on turning around Outback. As we complete our enterprise-wide strategy, we have implemented an organizational structure that builds capability, is effective and efficient and consists of a set of leaders that are deep in restaurant and operational experience, enhancing our transformation and strategic muscles as we lead the future business. Turnaround Outback is our highest priority. As a result, Michael Healy will move into a newly created role, Executive Vice President, Strategy and Transformation. He will lead the strategic initiatives central to our turnaround efforts. His extensive experience with over 16 years across the organization in supply chain, brand leadership and both Outback's CFO as well as the company's CFO, make him the ideal candidate for this role. He will also lead the revenue management work. I'm excited to see this transformation capability, which will allow us to in-source external consulting support, driving cost efficiencies. I'd like to welcome Eric Christel, who has joined the company as Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer-elect. Eric is a seasoned finance leader with nearly two decades of experience in the food and beverage sector, including…

William Michael Healy

Analyst

Thank you, Mike, and good morning, everyone. I would like to start by providing a recap of our continuing operations financial performance for the fiscal second quarter of 2025. Total revenues were $1 billion compared to $999 million last year. Restaurant sales were up, driven by net impact of restaurant openings and closures. This was offset by a decline in franchise and other revenue as the royalty rate on Brazil this year is less than the intercompany royalty received last year. U.S. comparable restaurant sales were down 10 basis points and traffic was down 200 basis points. These results were above our expectations. However, they were below the casual dining industry. Average check increased 1.9% compared to 2024 as we invested in value offers for our guests. Our off-premises sales was 24% of total U.S. sales in the quarter, consistent with Q2 last year. Outback's off-premise sales was 26% in the quarter and Carrabba's was 35%. Our GAAP diluted earnings per share was $0.29 compared to $0.28 last year. Our Q2 adjusted diluted earnings per share was $0.32 versus $0.45 last year. $0.32 was above our guidance of range of $0.22 to $0.27. The primary difference between GAAP and adjusted diluted earnings per share is due to approximately $3.5 million of adjustments incurred in Q2 2025 as a result of the transformational and restructuring activities and approximately $2 million in connection with the foreign currency forward contracts that we entered into to partially offset the risk associated with the purchase price installment payments on the Brazil transaction. Q2 adjusted operating margins were 3.5% versus 6.0% last year. The 250 basis point difference between this year and last year was driven by a decline in overall adjusted restaurant level margin by 200 basis points, COGS inflation of 3.3%. Similar to the…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] The first question comes from John Ivankoe with JPMorgan.

John William Ivankoe

Analyst

The question is on Outback general managers. Obviously, your average unit volumes are not as high as some peers, which might limit you in certain styles of compensation. So I'm curious if you are considering other methods of change at the GM level to perhaps create desired financial or other operational outcomes for this important position.

Michael Spanos

Analyst

John, our goal is to pay at the market average in terms of comp. And our current structure is good. And we're assessing the structure as part of the strategic plan. And we want a variable component just like the model was set up to drive growth in sales and profits, and that's the success of the restaurant. We remain committed to that model.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from Jeff Bernstein with Barclays.

Jeffrey Andrew Bernstein

Analyst · Barclays.

This is Pratik on for Jeff. Mike, just a bigger picture question on the Outback turnaround. Clearly, you're doing a lot of work in improving the service, the quality, the value, you're doing remodels. So obviously, there's a lot of initiatives currently going on. Can you just help us prioritize where you see the biggest opportunity in the near term? And if we were to kind of gauge this, what inning do you think you are in this process?

Michael Spanos

Analyst · Barclays.

Well, as I've said, we're in the early innings and the turnaround takes time. And I think we'll continue to learn as we go forward. And I think the fundamental of this is it's all about we want to have a really good equation in terms of what you pay for what you get for. And what that means is we're going to be very focused on service model. We're going to be very focused on stay quality. We're going to be very focused on our value components, and we're going to continue to test and learn.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from Alex Slagle with Jefferies.

Alexander Russell Slagle

Analyst · Jefferies.

I wanted to ask a little bit more on the Aussie 3 course and if you can dial in a little bit more on what you learned about these transactions and customers that ordered the deal, just if there's any info on sort of check size or add-ons or frequency? And just maybe some more thoughts on how you want to keep this offer fresh and evolve it going forward?

Michael Spanos

Analyst · Jefferies.

First, we said we're always going to iterate our everyday menu offerings. And we feel -- I feel really good about it. We've seen an increase in traffic. We've seen an increase in value satisfaction, and we've seen improved frequency out of our loyals. And I feel really good about it. And I think that's been the primary reason we've seen a nice traffic uptick, as I said, in Outback. Specific to your question, as I've said before, we've seen that about 2/3 of the guests are trading up to the higher levels at the $17.99 and $2.99, which has been good. There is a bit of a mix headwind out of it, which -- but we know it's necessary and it's included in our guide. I also like -- when you look at it, we've got about 20% of guests that are trading up on desserts as well. So I like the behavior. The guests like the value. They know the incentive curve and a big bunch of them are paying more for more.

Operator

Operator

The next question, Jeff Farmer with Gordon Haskett.

Jeffrey Daniel Farmer

Analyst

You did touch on it a bit, but just drilling down on the initial 14 Outback test restaurants. Can you just share some of the more impactful or I would say, surprising early findings from this test group? What's really got your attention and your focus as you've looked at these 14 restaurants, even though it's been just a short period of time?

Michael Spanos

Analyst

Well, the first thing we learned and I learned is the potential of the brand is tremendous. And the second is that guests love our craveable food in a fun casual environment where there's a no rules just right approach or an attitude. What we've also learned is there's a cumulative impact, which is part of getting the service model right, getting the steak quality right, getting the value right and the ambience right. And the last is, like anything, there's change management. You've got to train and drive execution, consistency of execution. And our Outbackers are incredibly proud to serve what we're doing in these test restaurants. So I'm very excited, and it takes time to build. You got to build momentum. But I'm really excited about based on what we've seen, and that's why we're moving to 42 to get a broader learning in terms of more geographies and see how we continue to build the brand and build the turnaround.

Jeffrey Daniel Farmer

Analyst

And just one more quick follow-up. You did note that the traffic performance at Outback strengthened throughout the quarter, and it sounds like you're attributing the lion's share of that improved performance to the Aussie 3 course. But with the offering in place for the entire quarter, what drove that improved momentum? Again, understanding that it's been in place the entire quarter, but you did get stronger as the quarter progressed. So help us understand how -- or what role the Aussie 3 course played in driving that improving momentum as you move through the quarter?

Michael Spanos

Analyst

Well, the lapse helped us in terms of it was just a better offer than what we had in terms of Dine Under previously. But I also want to give credit to Pat Haffner and the team. We're executing with more consistency. Our leaders are in the restaurants on the weekends. They're there during peak hours. We're driving consistency of execution, recipe adherence. And I think that's a big part of it. And then what you've got is we're marketing, getting folks in the restaurants with Aussie 3 course, but we're getting folks to come back as we're improving our service and our excellence. And I think that's the formula we've got to drive moving forward.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from Brian Mullan with Piper Sandler.

Brian Hugh Mullan

Analyst · Piper Sandler.

I want to ask about the menu reduction actions in Outback. I think in April, you reduced by 10%. I guess, one, can you just talk about how that's going from a guest experience and an employee experience perspective? And then two, from the prepared remarks, it sounds like you might see the opportunity to take off more even if you do need to test it. So just talk about what's making you think there's still more room to go.

Michael Spanos

Analyst · Piper Sandler.

Well, our Outbackers really like it because we've simplified the operation. And we're also seeing our guests give us a response that we're just creating and developing and executing better products and executing much better, more consistently. In terms of the numbers, we're down about 15% on the menu, if you just go off the rough numbers. We were in the mid-80s. We got down to low 70s with the reduction in terms of menu items. And we'll continue to iterate and look to get into probably the mid-60s over time. That seems to be the right formula as we've been looking at the menu innovation, and we'll continue to do more.

Brian Hugh Mullan

Analyst · Piper Sandler.

Okay. And then a question on Carrabba's. -- good same-store sales result there, positive traffic. Maybe just talk to what was behind that strength. And I know the Outback turnaround is the #1 priority, but I'm wondering if there are some strategic changes going on at Carrabba's underway as well.

Michael Spanos

Analyst · Piper Sandler.

We did. The Carrabba's team, I'm really impressed with how they're thinking about daypart conversion. So I start there. That team has done a good job in terms of channels and converting guests across the day. And specifically strength, we saw good momentum on the experiential line dinners, events that bring in guests both for lunch and dinner in restaurant. We've seen really nice momentum on catering. We've had good luck with our Bistro sandwiches that have been driving the catering business as well as our OPD has continued to grow. So it's all of the above.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from Sara Senatore with Bank of America.

Sara Harkavy Senatore

Analyst · Bank of America.

This is Isaah on for Sarah. Just wanted to ask real quickly about the decision to pull back on advertising in the quarter. It seems to have helped out other OpEx. And then I have a follow-up after that.

Michael Spanos

Analyst · Bank of America.

Yes. So our advertising, we run about 2.5% of sales. And it wasn't -- I wouldn't call it a reduction. What we've reduced -- we've just gotten more effective with our marketing spend. We've reduced our nonworking marketing, less creative, less content, more focus on our ROIs, which channels we're pushing. And that's allowed us to just be more efficient and effective with our marketing.

Sara Harkavy Senatore

Analyst · Bank of America.

Got it. Very helpful. And then just a quick question on labor. It seems like it came in a little pressured this quarter. And appreciating that you spoke earlier about just lowering the server to table station ratio. Just want to know where we are with labor investments, what more there is to come, kind of how much has already been invested into labor year-to-date, just especially with labor inflation being the primary driver of the higher labor cost this quarter?

Michael Spanos

Analyst · Bank of America.

Well, I'll start with the service model in terms of the server totable station ratio as we're testing the 1:6 to 1:4. -- there, just to be clear, we're reallocating costs. We don't see that as a major investment just in terms of how your server assistant hours move off and then how you have your servers. So I don't see that in any way as any type of major investment. We also have really started to improve and look at how we drive our hot schedule AI laboring tools and the Outback team has gotten very behind that in terms of just flexing labor to flex labor up when we have more guests in the restaurants and flexing down when we have less demand in the restaurants. So it's really about just getting the right amount of people at the right time to take great care of our guests. And that's where we're flexing more. And I think you'll see more of that use of tools to be more efficient in the labor spend.

William Michael Healy

Analyst · Bank of America.

Yes. Just to share, as far as overall labor inflation, we've been running around 4%, which has been pretty consistent for actually almost a couple of years now. And so we anticipate that to be our go-forward inflation rate at least through the end of this year.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from Jared Lezynski with BMO Capital Markets.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst · BMO Capital Markets.

So you mentioned that the repair and maintenance survey was complete and are planning for 10 remodels in 2025. Could you provide any additional details on your survey findings and scope of work needed to be done to bring some of the older assets up to standard? And then any initial thoughts for the level of remodels we could potentially see in 2026?

Michael Spanos

Analyst · BMO Capital Markets.

I'd start with, we've done a lot of work on site quality as well as asset conditions. And I would say broadly on site quality, we're not seeing that as a primary issue for us in terms of the brand and how we think about the brand going forward. We have focused more on asset condition, which is why we decided to launch the repair and maintenance survey because I want to make sure that we had an environment that was good for our guests, good for our Outbackers and also creates a good safe environment out there. And that's helped us prioritize what we're going to do by restaurant. We don't see that as a major increase in spend. It's more about how we prioritize and spend. In terms of remodels, we've looked at 3 different types of scopes because as you -- as we take forward these surveys, we've done 10 different Outback remodels with 3 different scopes. It's helping us go from what is a light touch, what is a refresh where we might spend a little bit more, but we're being very thoughtful in terms of one, addressing what we're finding in the R&M surveys as well as getting a good return on the money we put into the restaurants from a refresh, which is more of a lighter touch. And we think we can do those well. So you'll see us shifting, as I've said before, we're going to be shifting dollars from new restaurants into this remodel, refresh scope moving forward.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst · BMO Capital Markets.

And then in the last call, you discussed scrutinizing all expenses with an expected G&A expense of $215 million for the year. Has anything changed in that outlook? And how should we view these savings? And how much is expected to be structural as we head into 2026?

Michael Spanos

Analyst · BMO Capital Markets.

We don't anticipate any change to that $215 million G&A number.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from Teddy Farley with Goldman Sachs.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst · Goldman Sachs.

I was curious if you could give some detail on how Outback is performing in various regions of the country. You previously mentioned some weakness across the South. Are you still seeing that? And what, if anything, you're doing to position the brand better in those markets?

Michael Spanos

Analyst · Goldman Sachs.

No. In Q2, we didn't see -- there's really no outliers. The performance was consistent across all geographies.

Operator

Operator

This concludes our question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Mike Spanos for any closing remarks.

Michael Spanos

Analyst

Thank you once again for your investment and support of Lumen Brands. I want to close by thanking our people for their passion, resilience and commitment to excellence. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.