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Operator

Operator

Good morning. My name is Dorothy and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Brown-Forman First Quarter Fiscal 2018 Conference Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speakers' remarks there will be a question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] Thank you. I would now like to turn the call over to Jay Koval, Director of Investor Relations. Sir you may begin.

Jay Koval

Analyst · Bryan Spillane with Bank of America

Thanks, Dorothy, and good morning, everyone. I want to thank you for joining us for Brown-Forman's first quarter 2018 earnings call. Joining me today are Paul Varga, our Chairman and Chief Executive Officer; Jane Morreau, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer; and Brian Fitzgerald, Chief Accounting Officer. This morning's conference call contains forward-looking statements based on our current expectations. Numerous risks and uncertainties may cause actual results to differ materially from those anticipated or projected in these statements. Many of the factors that will determine future results are beyond the company's ability to control or predict. You should not place undue reliance on any forward-looking statements and the company undertakes no obligation to update any of these statements, whether due to new information, future events or otherwise. This morning, we issued a press release containing our results for the first quarter of fiscal 2018 in addition to posting presentation materials that Jane will walk though momentarily. Both the release and the presentation can be found on our Web site under the section titled Investors, Events & Presentations. In the press release, we have listed a number of the risk factors that you should consider in conjunction with our forward-looking statements. Other significant risk factors are described in our Form 10-K, Form 8-K and Form 10-Q reports filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission. During the call, we will be discussing certain non-GAAP financial measures. These measures and the reasons management believes they provide useful information to investors regarding the company's financial conditions and results of operations are contained in the press release. And with that, I'll turn the call over to Jane for her prepared remarks.

Jane Morreau

Analyst · Pivotal Research Group

Thanks Jay. And thanks everyone for joining us this morning for our first quarter earnings call. During my comments today, I will reference the slides we posted on our Web site this morning to help you walk through our two main areas of focus which are first, our first quarter results and second, our outlook for fiscal 2018. So, after I complete my prepared remarks, I will turn the call over to Paul for a few quick comments and then we will open it up to Q&A. So, let me start with our overall highlight shown on Slide 3, first, we experienced our fourth sequential quarterly improvement and underlying net sales with our first quarter up 6%. Second, our reported results were even stronger helped by distributor inventory and a lower tax rate and not to mention diminishing foreign exchange headwinds. Third, we invested significantly in our brands with an underlying A&P increase of over 6%, while we continue to deliver a meaningful operating leverage, the reductions in SG&A. And finally, we reaffirmed our full year outlook for underlying net sales growth of 4% to 5% and underlying operating income growth of 6% to 8%. We would note that we increased our EPS range for fiscal 2018 by 5% due to an improved outlook for our tax rate and foreign exchange. I will come back to our outlook in a few minutes. So, now, let's turn to Slide 4, to review our first quarter growth. Underlying net sales grew 6% in the quarter. This represented a continued acceleration from fiscal 2017 growth which improved throughout the year from last year's first quarter growth of 2%. This 6% growth was essentially inline with our expectations and keep this on track for our full year outlook of 4% to 5% growth in…

Paul Varga

Analyst · Pivotal Research Group

Thank you, Jane, and good morning, everyone. To start, I was pleased with the very strong start to our fiscal year and I was really encouraged to see the acceleration in the quarter's underlying growth rate particularly the underlying growth in net sales alongside the favorable developments on our tax rate and FX that Jane referenced we chose to revise our full year forecast up slightly which is quite unusual for us with only one quarter of the year complete. But, it is worth emphasizing that quarter one is only one quarter's result. But, it was a very good quarter nonetheless and it provides us with a nice momentum as we prepare for the launch of Jack Daniels Tennessee Rye, the brand has been many years in the making and for which we have very high hopes. So, why did the first quarter's underlying results accelerate versus what we experienced in FY 2017? There was some influence from a few timing-related items such as soft comps from last year or the pre-price increased buy-in Australia that Jane referenced and [these really] [ph] will be offset are not repeated as the year unfolds. A more significant factor, however, is the way we are executing our plan at Brown-Forman in FY 2018 and that is with an even greater sense of competitiveness, prioritization, effectiveness and efficiency. In Jane's discussion of our results, she highlighted that A&P investment is solid up, at the same time, we are striving to manage SG&A at a level that is at or below two fiscal years ago all the while absorbing important SG&A investments this fiscal year related to our Spanish, route-to-consumer and a start-up cost associated with our distilleries and hospitality efforts at both Old Forester and Slane. This cannot happen without conscious prioritization and resource…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Your first question comes from the line of Tim Ramey with Pivotal Research Group.

Tim Ramey

Analyst · Pivotal Research Group

Good morning and thanks. I was stuck by the strong growth in Finlandia which was a nice departure, I know you mentioned Russia, but perhaps you would have a little bit more color on that?

Jane Morreau

Analyst · Pivotal Research Group

On Finlandia?

Tim Ramey

Analyst · Pivotal Research Group

Yes. I think you mentioned it, travel retail Russia and Poland to some extent, I think there is -- the brand is so concentrated in Eastern Europe any improvements we see out in that part of the world directly help Finlandia and that it was in fact the case particularly driven by Russia in Q1.

Jane Morreau

Analyst · Pivotal Research Group

Yes. And we are overall -- Tim, we saw improvements in Russia for Jack Daniels as well. So, I think some of that just due to some stabilization that happen in that economy. Something that bodes well, we think as we look forward over the next few months perhaps through the year.

Tim Ramey

Analyst · Pivotal Research Group

Terrific. And then, just on el Jimador and Herradura, you had a multiyear trend of raising price in moderating volume, it was -- can you elaborate on whether this was back to organic growth and volume or is it still sort of continuing that price shift?

Jane Morreau

Analyst · Pivotal Research Group

Mexico.

Paul Varga

Analyst · Pivotal Research Group

Yes. Just to clarify Tim, a lot of which you referred to there was very concentrated on the el Jimador Mexico business where we are consciously trading pricing for volume in that marketplace. But otherwise, it's been a more volume led growth trajectory in the United States for both brands and for even Herradura and Herradura Ultra and New Mix down in Mexico. So, I would say the continuation here continues to be volume-led on our tequila brand particularly when you look at the U.S. market.

Tim Ramey

Analyst · Pivotal Research Group

Thanks so much.

Paul Varga

Analyst · Pivotal Research Group

Welcome.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Nik Modi with RBC Capital Markets.

Nik Modi

Analyst · Nik Modi with RBC Capital Markets

Yes. Thanks everyone. Good morning. Just two quick questions. Emerging markets you guys commented obviously things have looked like they have improved, just wanted to understand what you are seeing to come to that conclusion because it still looks like it's pretty weak for most other consumer companies, just wanted to get some thoughts there. And then maybe just an update on what you are seeing on the Craft competition, are you seeing more supply coming to the market, any update there would be great. Thank you.

Paul Varga

Analyst · Nik Modi with RBC Capital Markets

Yes. I think two very different questions there.

Jane Morreau

Analyst · Nik Modi with RBC Capital Markets

I can take the emerging market question. Some of the -- we may have talked about this at year end. We were expecting our emerging markets to improve. They actually started to improve in the back half of last year. We saw a continuation of that happen in the first quarter some of it just to frankly to some easier comps versus last year where we had some disruption rather was geopolitical [indiscernible] example our own, are out to consumers changes that we did in China. But, we are actually are seeing some stabilization, you actually are seeing some foreign exchange improvement so we really actually see that these markets are seeing some stabilizing trends out there and our brands are seeing the growth and benefiting from the…

Paul Varga

Analyst · Nik Modi with RBC Capital Markets

I think the other factor that -- because you are referenced our competition just always worth remembering that, when you even look within our emerging markets, our concentration in the brick portion of the emerging markets relative to many of our larger competitors is smaller. So, our emerging market business will really benefit when -- for example, in this quarter was very prominent where Mexico and Poland were doing very, very well. And they are larger percentage of our emerging market business than they are for some of our competitors. I think that could explain us relative to some competitors you maybe referencing. The other part was on Craft, and yes, I mean I think the way you asked the question, I think you could have just made a statement. There is in fact continuing to be increasing competition across the board. Most notably in the United States but also in other key develop markets around the world where we are seeing just a rise in entrepreneurism, new distilleries coming online both in white goods and in brown goods. And so, I just would chock that up as increased competition for all of us, you are the most established players that has been around for a while. But it is a reality and it's interesting it’s not -- using the United States as an example, I'm trying to think through how significant some of the more recent news around Craft has been. One thing is so interesting, when you go back and study the performance of the United States, which, of course, has had such a nice and steady growing distill spirits market for a very long time. For many years now, the largest players, whether you segment them by the largest five or the largest 10 or 12, been…

Nik Modi

Analyst · Nik Modi with RBC Capital Markets

Great. Thanks for the perspective.

Paul Varga

Analyst · Nik Modi with RBC Capital Markets

You are welcome.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Judy Hong with Goldman Sachs.

Frida Leibowitz

Analyst · Judy Hong with Goldman Sachs

Hi. This is actually Frida on for Judy.

Paul Varga

Analyst · Judy Hong with Goldman Sachs

Hello.

Frida Leibowitz

Analyst · Judy Hong with Goldman Sachs

Just a follow-up question, hi, on pricing in particular and the price mix this quarter was a little bit better than what you have seen in fiscal 2017 up 2%. And the geographic mix, it sounds like was much more heavily tilted to emerging market. So, could you talk about the drivers, the price mix being stronger than this particular quarter, was it better tequila growth, was it more mix in certain regions, any kind of color on that? And then, I have a follow-up.

Jane Morreau

Analyst · Judy Hong with Goldman Sachs

I will start with this. When you have Jack Daniels in this Family of Brands growing itself 6%, you are going to get some nice price and mix benefit from both. And that's what actually happened in the quarter. We had a bit more price -- mix benefit than we did -- price if you actually broke the two numbers down apart. And so that coupled with a continued double digit growth in our bourbon, super premium bourbon brands such as Woodford Reserve and then Herradura going strongly. And there were some pricing in Mexico on that. So, all combined that contributed to our factor or more contribution coming from price mix than we did last year, but it's mainly mix.

Paul Varga

Analyst · Judy Hong with Goldman Sachs

Yes.

Frida Leibowitz

Analyst · Judy Hong with Goldman Sachs

Okay, great. And then, just thinking more holistically about the pricing strategy throughout your portfolio in the U.S. I mean it seems as though again the Jack Daniels pricing may been a little bit more rationale, and then, at least sequentially we have seen a little bit of declines in annual pricing in Gentleman Jack. And so, can you talk about how you are thinking in terms of pricing amongst the different brands in your portfolio especially as you are seeing some of these, Craft's competitors pricing at the lower end?

Paul Varga

Analyst · Judy Hong with Goldman Sachs

Yes. I mean I think because of the large degree of -- increased number of brands is the best way to say it, and it's really very heavy in the 20 plus per bottle price segments. First, that will go up well above $50 a bottle. I mean, last year, I will give you the example, last year, I think consciously and implementing this very well market by market taking price on both Old Forester and Woodford Reserve. And in both instances, against the backdrop that's out there, there were some volume hit as those prices made their way. And so, with each brand, we will continue to look at what the opportunities are to raise price. I would say it is more difficult today than it would have been two years ago. And from time to time, we will continue to raise prices on brands for reasons other than volume which are about premium price position et cetera. And that is, it can be a significant and influence as selling the product through to the consumer. And that for sure has been the case in the Old Forester price repositioning over several years there. So, there will be a variety of influences, also think it will depend on the economy not just the degree of competition it's in there. And for example, if you have -- right now we feel like we have a -- between category momentum for bourbon which should be benefiting us in a nice economy there will be opportunities for targeted price increases. So, and our people are very well trained to find those. The other form of portfolio management is the one that, it sort of goes back to your first question, and the way that Jane answered it. You can imagine how we will benefit from introducing line extensions and new brands at higher price points. And you don't want to just go flood the market for that reason. But, the example that I would provide -- for that slide it is being something we are very excited about this forthcoming introduction of Jack Daniels Rye, which is going to be priced above the Jack Daniels price point. And it will be a form of portfolio mix that provides benefit, it's not technically a price increase but being positioned above Jack Daniels or the more rapid growth of Gentleman Jack that I referenced. Both of those are examples of being able to get portfolio mix benefit to replace some of the pricing that we are not seeing.

Frida Leibowitz

Analyst · Judy Hong with Goldman Sachs

Thanks.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Will Chappell with SunTrust.

Will Chappell

Analyst · Will Chappell with SunTrust

Thanks. Good morning.

Paul Varga

Analyst · Will Chappell with SunTrust

Good morning.

Will Chappell

Analyst · Will Chappell with SunTrust

Hey, Paul. Just want to follow-up on the Rye launch and just make sure I understand, I mean. If you look over the past couple of years, Rye is going to almost become a market by itself with fast growth and really going to niche in smaller brands making most of that growth. I mean, does it make sense or kind of as you look at your optimism on the back half in this launch to have a separate brand kind of similar what you've done with Woodford Reserve or what you have done on the Irish side or do you feel like you can still capture your fair share with just -- not just, but with the Jack Daniels brand?

Paul Varga

Analyst · Will Chappell with SunTrust

Yes. I'm glad you mentioned Woodford because that was a great example of brand that's been in the market for what 18 years before we introduced it's Rye version at nearly -- I think at approximate almost $40 price point now and it's growing at astronomical rate. It's getting incredible product critical acclaim. So, that is one of the things this early experience on Woodford Reserve Rye is one thing just giving some excitement. Actually, see the categories momentum and remember this category has largely been built by the bar tenders and any entrée associated with resurgence of the classic cocktail and this particular sort of category that's spice and bold and flavored is resonating very well. I mean it's an extremely mix of all category. I mean the product raise. It's very interesting to taste the various expressions because that was a great range from the 51% raise to the 100% raise. And they all made cocktails differently and one of the things it had just excited is the excellent balance in this Jack Daniels Tennessee Rye product, I really do think it lends itself very well to the cocktail boon that's going on. It's an extremely well-balanced product. We have very good -- some encourage, you can never go to the bank on these things but the preparatory consumer research we did was really encouraging about Jack Daniels potential in this arena. And actually think at the low of $30 price point, while still super premium in price, this will, I think be a value. And we just have had so much experience over so many years and just introducing brands to other consume public from Jack Daniels in doing that we hope the right way. And I just would note that this is the first Jack Daniels…

Will Chappell

Analyst · Will Chappell with SunTrust

Okay. And then, just a follow-up with that, I think Jane you said the majority of the benefit comes in the back half, is that pipeline, I think we are seeing the launch is pretty imminent, were is that just you won't get to full distribution until the third or fourth quarter and that's why we wouldn’t expect it as a big of a benefit until then?

Jane Morreau

Analyst · Will Chappell with SunTrust

Yes. So, getting ready to ship it September first of all. Well, first of all, we have laid this found five years ago. And so, we lay down a certain amount of -- some of it's limited by the amount of quantity that we laid down. So, shipping in September for us means it will start hitting the shelves in October timeframe. We have more coming obviously as the year goes on. That’s why we are saying it was more at the back -- but, we are limited by the amount of -- thought that we laid down five years ago not withstanding the profit. But, we are very optimistic about the brand that we will get into full distribution, it’s our plan.

Paul Varga

Analyst · Will Chappell with SunTrust

Yes. We would have available in ensuing years, more quantities available. But, I personally, if you go down the list of the leading brand in the U.S. rye category, one of the selling attributes I believe that is very compelling for Jack Daniels Tennessee Rye is the fact that it's actually made the Jack Daniels distillery. And, there are a number of these competitors out there that really haven't been making their own rye and it doesn't mean they are bad products per se, but I do think there are some real positive selling attributes associated with our particular entry because they have been crafted by the distillers themselves at the distillery and not source from a third party.

Will Chappell

Analyst · Will Chappell with SunTrust

Done. Thanks so much.

Paul Varga

Analyst · Will Chappell with SunTrust

You are welcome.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Brett Copper with Consumer Edge Research.

JayKoval

Analyst · Brett Copper with Consumer Edge Research

Hey, Brett. I think you might be on mute.

Brett Copper

Analyst · Brett Copper with Consumer Edge Research

Sorry. Can you hear me now?

Jane Morreau

Analyst · Brett Copper with Consumer Edge Research

Yes.

Paul Varga

Analyst · Brett Copper with Consumer Edge Research

Yes. We can. Thanks.

Brett Copper

Analyst · Brett Copper with Consumer Edge Research

Sorry. I just want to circle back on the message of competition; others outside of the company haven't really heard you speak up about that until your annual meeting and then again today. So, I guess, is this something new for the company or is it a new message for kind of for us [indiscernible]? And then, as we think about it, is it competition sort of really focused or is there, I guess increased competition within Brown-Forman whether would be cost brands in countries? And then, if I can slip one final in is, is this idea of increased competitiveness, is that going to spill over to advertising, you spoke just about it a second ago, but where you can compare yourself your sourcing versus what else is out there given the new competition? Thanks.

Paul Varga

Analyst · Brett Copper with Consumer Edge Research

Those are good questions. Let me clarify. We have always been in tune with competition, I mean I would tell you that for example years ago the introduction of Jack Daniels Tennessee Honey was the direct response to competitive activity in the marketplace, new innovation from competitors that we would first solve directly related to the short businesses on both, Southern Comfort when we owned it and Jack Daniels. So, I mean, I feel like we regularly talk about what's the changing competitive dynamics. I think a lot of it is, while we emphasizing it, just try to sharpen our own perspective and to give you some transparency to how we are thinking about mostly all these new entrants that are forthcoming particularly the time when 10 years ago, you would have heard the phrase barrier to entry described around many of the categories notably the age categories like whiskey. And today, you just see so because of an available third party markets you can make products, but also the willingness of entrepreneurs to open their own distilleries and get into the business. And so, I think here we are what's about 10 years later and so, it's just normal to talk about what's going on with competition. And also to not -- to not let misinterpretation of how the competition is unfolding, either the way you will interpret our business or the way we run it. And I think we have to be very conscious, I mean, like the one example in one of the earlier question was, is it now a great time to be taking more aggressive price increases while some of our motivated competitors are reducing prices is making their brands more affordable through promotion or one-off. And there is a lot of new entrants in…

Brett Copper

Analyst · Brett Copper with Consumer Edge Research

Thanks.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Robert Ottenstein with Evercore.

Eric Serotta

Analyst · Robert Ottenstein with Evercore

Hi. It's Eric Serotta in for Robert. I was hoping you could give some --

Paul Varga

Analyst · Robert Ottenstein with Evercore

Hey, Eric.

Eric Serotta

Analyst · Robert Ottenstein with Evercore

Hey. Hope you could give some color in terms of your gross margin outlook, it's a very good operating leverage at the operating income line this quarter, but the gross margin was kind of flattish on an underlying basis and down reported. As we are looking out of the next few quarters, should that FX headwinds start to moderate, how should the other moving pieces play out in terms of your gross margin progression for the year.

Jane Morreau

Analyst · Robert Ottenstein with Evercore

Sure. I'll take that. Yes. You are right. Our reporting gross margin was down as we mentioned little bit due to FX, Middle East, quarter offset a little bit by now, A&D activity from last year. So, as we look throughout the year, we expect that Middle East on a reported basis subside and actually reported gross margin probably because it's flat, flattish. And when we look at it on underlying basis, we were flattish for the quarter and we would expect our underlying as we get to the end of year -- close to flattish down, just a tad potentially depending on mix just because we have been talking about the competitive pricing environment. And we were not table to [strike excellent pricing] [ph] we have done in the past. But, not marginally down even on an underlying basis. And as it related to the operating margin we talk about -- I just saw in our results, I remember we had 150 basis points of improvement and that was driven largely by the decrease in SG&A in the quarter. And so, when we look ahead, we are not forecasting SG&A to be down for the year but instead flattish. So, when we look at the operating margin for the year, we are looking for somewhere around of 100 basis points improvement.

Eric Serotta

Analyst · Robert Ottenstein with Evercore

Okay. And then, Paul, I don't think you guys mentioned Slane much on this call, just wondering any additional early read on how that launch is going and I know it's fairly limited thus far, but any initial color would be helpful?

Paul Varga

Analyst · Robert Ottenstein with Evercore

Thank you. It's off to a good start. It's the way I say it, obviously very, very small, it's literally I think 18 U.S. days and introducing into Ireland and the U.K. in travel retail some. It's a good reception. I mean some of the things that have been written about the product and what we heard from trade reactions a lot of that's anecdotal, it's all been good. We just I think opened last week, so the public-- so for distillery business as we complete our construction and doubling, we are actually going to have our Board [indiscernible] next month in September. So, it would be exciting for a number of our Board members to see that as well. So, also very good, we are always very encouraged, but again, it's a very staged unlike the amount of product for example that we are -- we have available to go with Jack Daniels Rye for example, I mean Slane is not at that level of immediate expectation if the new trademark et cetera. And it's one of the things that is -- that base that it's in, which is -- as a lot of excitement around it. But, we will be dabbling with very different selling and marketing techniques in different parts around the world just to learn the best way to introduce it to consumers. But, so far what we have seen in terms of the product, I mean I really like the package, I think the package and product make a great presentation, I think for the initial reactions that has been very good. And then, it's up to the good old fashion day today grand building that we have to do. But, I know our system is very excited about it.

Eric Serotta

Analyst · Robert Ottenstein with Evercore

Great. Thanks I will pass it on.

Paul Varga

Analyst · Robert Ottenstein with Evercore

Welcome.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Laurent Grandet with Credit Suisse.

Laurent Grandet

Analyst · Laurent Grandet with Credit Suisse

Good morning, Paul and Jane. I had two questions. The first one Jane, I mean you mentioned bounce sales, can you provide about half of the points of supply game, what was the contribution in term of margin expansion. And the second one is, I was a bit conscious I joined the quarter for the U.S. market, as of course, [indiscernible] last fiscal year from 5% in the first half to 2% in second half, I mean really 1% in the last quarter. So, now, with the first quarter in the U.S. being in plus five, it's a strong inflection, so, it's a pressure from Craft's flavored whiskey is reducing, while you just executing better, so like to have more colors on that on this from you?

Paul Varga

Analyst · Laurent Grandet with Credit Suisse

Okay. I will take that second question here first. I don't think it impacted Craft, so I don't think it is at the same sort of intent level as it's been in my view. I do think there are some execution aspects of it. As I described in my prepared remarks, our teams are increasingly more competitive and efficient and then, also just the efforts in sales around it. I mean it's hard to always pinpoint whether it might be a partnership -- new partnership with the NBA and the media that's related to that or other elements that can contribute to a slight lift in a particular brand sales. But, I think we are putting forth better effort right now against the brand and this year I also say for it's the case of Woodford Reserve and to some external Forrester, they don’t have the pressure of higher pricing that we are placing on them a year ago. So, that can be a contributor. We continue to see for us a very good trends they presented earlier on the call related to Herradura and el Jimador. So, I think these are number that contributing factors, so why we might see slight acceleration. But having said that, I continue to think it's going to be particularly as we get into the fall and holiday season continue to be very competitive. So, we look like you remain conscious about the marketplace because of that level of competition. But, that's just part of the game.

Laurent Grandet

Analyst · Laurent Grandet with Credit Suisse

Thank you. And then, Jane, the margin?

Paul Varga

Analyst · Laurent Grandet with Credit Suisse

Then the margin. Yes, Jane will address the margin side.

Jane Morreau

Analyst · Laurent Grandet with Credit Suisse

Yes. Now, I have got all the information in front of me and so, I would happy to follow up with you after the call, that would be okay?

Laurent Grandet

Analyst · Laurent Grandet with Credit Suisse

That's fine with me.

Jane Morreau

Analyst · Laurent Grandet with Credit Suisse

Okay. Can we do that? Yes. Thanks.

Laurent Grandet

Analyst · Laurent Grandet with Credit Suisse

Thanks.

Paul Varga

Analyst · Laurent Grandet with Credit Suisse

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

We will take our final question from the line of Bryan Spillane with Bank of America.

Bryan Spillane

Analyst · Bryan Spillane with Bank of America

Hey, good morning, everyone.

Paul Varga

Analyst · Bryan Spillane with Bank of America

Hey, Bryan.

Bryan Spillane

Analyst · Bryan Spillane with Bank of America

Hey, Jane. Just a couple of questions on cash flow. I guess first in this quarter, it look like working capital, it might have been a little bit more of a drag at least versus kind of the way we have modeled it. So, is it just simply the timing of the shipments, or is there anything that we should think about in terms of working capital in the first quarter or for the year?

Jane Morreau

Analyst · Bryan Spillane with Bank of America

Actually working capital is a funny calculation as you know. And if you look at this year, don't think there is anything, I think it's relative to last year, the question maybe arising it's because last year's first quarter and really all of last year, we had the absence of Southern Comfort. So that impacted our AR, so think about that. We had AR in the previous year, it may weigh last year, still that was a source of cash if you will last year came through -- what we actually [sold it] [ph]. This year it's impacting -- I'm not worried about anything, our sales are up this year. So we see it is being use of cash this year, if you will. So, it's really due to the Southern Comfort.

Bryan Spillane

Analyst · Bryan Spillane with Bank of America

All right. Yes. That makes sense. And then, just in terms of uses of cash, can you just remind us what the expectations are for capital spending for the year. And then, I guess you should have a pretty good sort of free cash flow year, there hasn't been any share repurchases the last couple of quarters. So, just -- how you are thinking about using free cash flow for the balance of the year?

Jane Morreau

Analyst · Bryan Spillane with Bank of America

Yes, sure. So, specifically to your first question as it related to our capital spending forecast for the year. We are projecting up to about $140 million of capital spending. We have a couple of big projects that we are completing when Paul just mentioned a moment ago, which was this completion of the Slane [Complex] [ph] and Distillery, which just open to the public [indiscernible] went to the public this weekend. And then, our Old Forester distillery which is set to open in the spring, but those are couple of our big investments behind up to $140 million of spending. When you look at our free cash flow for the year, first of all, think it's probably worthwhile to take a step back and look at our approach to capital allocation, which we have not changed that approach to capital allocation. At least want to look for ways to deploy cash to create shareholder value and we will always will do that. But, this particular year beyond the -- up to $140 million of fully investing behind our business and of course, we look to increase continually deliver ordinary dividends to our shareholders in increase. We do have $250 million of debt coming through in January which we plan to pay the cash. So that will take some of our or most of free cash flow it's left from there. Beyond that we have ample. Debt capacity should acquisitions become available that makes sense and fit into our [indiscernible] and into what we are doing.

Bryan Spillane

Analyst · Bryan Spillane with Bank of America

That's great. Very helpful. Enjoy Labor Day.

Jane Morreau

Analyst · Bryan Spillane with Bank of America

You too in [releasing] [ph] of our product.

Bryan Spillane

Analyst · Bryan Spillane with Bank of America

I definitely will. Thanks guys.

Jay Koval

Analyst · Bryan Spillane with Bank of America

Thank you, Paul and Jane. And thanks to all of you for joining us today for Brown-Forman's first quarter earnings call. We hope you all enjoyed your Labor Day and our thoughts are with all of the people that have been impacted by the floods. Take care.

Operator

Operator

Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. That does conclude today's conference call. You may now disconnect.