Dustan E. McCoy
Analyst · B. Riley and Company.
Okay. Let's do it this way. We think Europe is still going to be a tough place to be. We'll again see in our view, however, P&A growth in Europe because people are still boating there. They're just not buying new boats. When you begin to chunk that up in Europe, country by country, region by region, it is wildly, this is the best way I can say it, different. Italy, Spain, even maybe beginning to see a little bit in France, are tough places to be. Germany, Belgium, Netherlands are good place to be and improving in Scandinavia. But of course, Italy, France is -- was, by far, the largest boating country. So that's how we see all that shaping up. But we think P&A will continue to grow, generally, a little slower than perhaps the rates in the United States. I mean, a lot of our P&A growth here in United States, and we called it out in Bill's part of the prepared comments, has been really great work at Attwood and Land 'N' Sea, and we don't quite have those equivalent businesses today in Europe. Therefore, it's hard to get that sort of benefit from those businesses. As we go to Asia, still, when we do Rest of the World -- let's think of Asia Pacific and Australia, generally flattish. We're in a -- of course, in the boating season over in Australia, a little better. But again, it's not big enough to give us a big pickup outside United States. Brazil's going to be interesting in 2014. We made a big investment down there. The operation's up and running on the boat side. We've always had a good engine business there. A lot now is going to depend among what happens economically down there. And they've got a couple of things that are going to be, in our view, a bit of distractions, the first of which is the new election or an election for a new leader there. That, as you know, has had people in the streets and whatever. So we're going to have to watch how that plays out. And the World Cup, well, it's probably have been a great thing for the economy, as a country, and the infrastructure building could be a bit of a distraction as we work our way through '14. So we think there's going to be improvement in Brazil, but we're a bit cautious about how much, even though we continue to believe it's a place we want to be. And longer term, it's going to be a real good place to do business.