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Q3 2013 Earnings Call· Thu, Oct 24, 2013

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Operator

Operator

Good morning, and welcome to the Brunswick Corporation's 2013 Third Quarter Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] Today's meeting will be recorded. If you have any objections, you may disconnect at this time. I would now like to introduce Bruce Byots, Vice President, Corporate and Investor Relations.

Bruce J. Byots

Analyst

Good morning, and thank you for joining us. On the call this morning is Dusty McCoy, Brunswick's Chairman and CEO; and Bill Metzger, CFO. Before we begin with our prepared remarks, I would like to remind everyone that during this call, our comments will include certain forward-looking statements about future results. Please keep in mind that our actual results could differ materially from these expectations. For the details on the factors to consider, please refer to our recent SEC filings and today's press release. All of these documents are available on our website at brunswick.com. During our presentation today, we are using certain non-GAAP financial information. Reconciliations of GAAP to non-GAAP financial measures are provided in this presentation, as well as in Supplemental Information section of the consolidated financial statements accompanying today's release. I would like to remind you that as a result of our decision to exit and the subsequent sale of Hatteras and CABO on August 5, the results of these businesses and the impact of that sale are reflected in discontinued operations. These figures in the presentation reflect continuing operations only, unless otherwise noted. I would now like to turn the call over to Dustan McCoy.

Dustan E. McCoy

Analyst

Thanks, Bruce, and good morning, everyone. I'll start with an overview of our third quarter results. Our revenue in the quarter increased 2%. We experienced growth in fitness equipment, marine parts and accessories, outboard boats and bowling product businesses, partially offset by declines in fiberglass sterndrive/inboard boats, U.S. outboard and sterndrive engines and retail bowling. During our second quarter call, we stated that our revenue growth rates in this quarter are going to be affected by fiberglass sterndrive boat pipeline reductions, challenging comparisons in our engine businesses and lower retail bowling sales due to the divestiture of our European centers. These factors unfolded as we had planned. Our third quarter gross margins increased by 10 basis points compared to the prior year, which is consistent with our previously stated expectations. For the 9 months, our gross margin is up 80 basis points. This outstanding improvement in our year-to-date results reflects our ability to execute against our strategy and generate operating efficiencies and leverage. Operating expenses increased by 6%, and this includes an 8% increase in R&D develop -- R&D expenses as we continued to invest in our numerous strategic initiatives. Adjusted operating earnings decreased by 6% versus prior year, with our Boat segment being the primary contributor to this decline. Year-to-date, our adjusted operating earnings are up 11%. Continuing down the P&L, net interest expense, excluding debt extinguishment losses, was reduced by $8 million, reflecting our strong free cash flow and the subsequent benefit from our substantially completed debt reduction plan. Diluted EPS from continuing operations, as adjusted, increased by 18% to $0.59 for the quarter and was up 25% for the 9 months. For this year, we are increasing our estimate of 2013 diluted EPS, as adjusted, to a range of $2.65 to $2.70 per share. This is the…

William L. Metzger

Analyst

Thank you, Dusty. Let me start with a discussion of our debt outstanding, which at the end of the third quarter was $465 million, a reduction of $107 million versus year end 2012. During the quarter, we retired $7 million of our 2023 and 2027 notes and incurred a very small amount of debt extinguishment losses on these retirements. While our debt-reduction activities are largely completed, we may continue to opportunistically retire debt to a balance below our target of $450 million. Net interest expense, which includes interest expense and interest income, was $8.3 million in the quarter, a decrease of $8 million versus the same period in 2012. The reduction was the result of lower debt balances, as well as a favorable interest rate on our 2021 notes issued in the second quarter of this year. Our quarterly run rate of net interest expense is about $8.2 million. For the full year, we expect net interest expense to be approximately $43 million, excluding extinguishment losses associated with debt returns. Foreign currency had a minimal impact on sales and a favorable impact on operating earnings comparisons for the quarter, reflecting a mix of favorable and unfavorable exchange rate movements, including the impact of hedging activity. We anticipate that these trends will continue for the full year comparisons. Our tax provision on an as-adjusted basis was $3.3 million compared to $6.9 million in the third quarter of 2012. These amounts exclude the tax impact of onetime charges, such as restructuring charges, debt extinguishment losses, and any nonrecurring special tax adjustments. The effective tax rate on and an as-adjusted basis was 5.6% for the third quarter of 2013 versus 12.9% a year ago. Our current full year estimated effective tax rate for 2013 on an as-adjusted basis is approximately 10%, which is…

Dustan E. McCoy

Analyst

Thanks, Bill. Well, let's wrap this up with me providing you with our outlook for the full year of 2013. Our operating plans for the remainder of the year continue to reflect an uneven recovery in U.S. powerboat market, with our outboard board and engine products and global parts and accessories businesses generating growth. Our assumptions continue to reflect unchanged market conditions for fiberglass sterndrive/inboard boats. In our recreation businesses, positive health and wellness trends, combined with exciting new products, have positioned our Fitness business to continue its strong top line performance and deliver excellent results again in 2013, and our bowling businesses should further benefit from operating efficiencies. We continue to target 4% growth rate in overall revenue in 2013. Our current full year plan reflects a solid improvement in gross margin levels. Our organic growth platform will benefit from increased investments in capital projects and research and development programs, along with the SG&A to support them. As a result of these initiatives, full year operating expenses, as a percentage of sales, are expected to be comparable to 2012 levels. For the full year, we will also benefit from lower net interest expense and pension costs, as well as a lower effective tax rate on an adjusted basis. Partially offsetting these factors is the effect of higher diluted shares outstanding. As a result of our solid year-to-date performance and lower-than-anticipated tax rates, we are increasing our expectation for 2013 diluted earnings per share for continuing operations, as adjusted, to a range of $2.65 to $2.70 per diluted share. The midpoint of this range would represent a 28% growth rate over the $2.09 we earned in 2012. I'll also note that yesterday, we issued a release announcing that our board declared a quarterly dividend of $0.10 per share, payable December 13, 2013. This reflection increased over the annual dividend of $0.05 per share we paid in 2012. Increasing the amount of dividend reflects the confidence we have in our business strategy and our demonstrating capabilities to execute against that strategy. Our progress and accomplishments during the most challenging of global marine market conditions are a testimony to the strength of our brands, the soundness of our business plan, and most importantly, the capabilities and resilience of our employees around the world. Before we start taking your questions, I'd like to remind you of our 2013 Investor Day scheduled to occur on November 12 in New York City at the New York Stock Exchange. We plan to update the investment community on progress made since we communicated our 3-year strategic plan in February 2012, but more importantly, to provide a new 3-year plan reflecting the period 2014 to 2016. If you have any more questions regarding this event, please free to give Bruce a call. Thanks. Now I'll turn the call back to the operator so that we can take your questions.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] And your first question comes from the line of James Hardiman from Longbow Research.

James Hardiman - Longbow Research LLC

Analyst

Dusty, let's talk about this uneven recovery in the industry just a little bit. Obviously, from an overall industry perspective, we saw nice acceleration in the third quarter, but we continue to talk about this fiberglass sterndrive/inboard being down. I guess I kind of feel like that you guys have a little bit of a disservice in that the assumption is that the big boats still aren't selling and that the little boats are selling when, within that fiberglass segment, at least what we saw in July and August, suggests that cruisers and yachts are actually doing really well. I guess, do you sort of agree with that? And I know some of this was colored by September where we didn't get the Coast Guard data. But the segments where it seems like you guys are focusing on, seem like from an industry perspective, are doing a little bit better. Can you sort of speak to that? I don't know if we do ourselves a disservice by slicing and dicing the numbers as much as we do, but talk a little bit about that diversions.

Dustan E. McCoy

Analyst

Sure. Well, first, I'm glad to talk to you, and thanks for joining the call. Here's what I think is the real world. We need to just step back for a moment. Yes, the cruisers and sport yachts and yachts on a percentage basis are up really nicely. In Q3, cruisers are up 11%, 12%, sport yachts and yachts are up 17%, and those percentages sound wonderful. But there's a but in here, and that's why we're not ready to declare, James, victory, if you will, and that the market has done a turn. Third quarter is pretty good quarter. We had great weather. Normally, there's a fair bit of volume. But unfortunately, in this market, the cruiser market being up over 11% was 28 units. And for sport yachts and yachts being up 17%, that was 27 units, and that contrast with -- where we see aluminum fish up of 15%. There, we're talking about 1,000 units. Pontoon is up almost 20%, that's 1,500 units more; and in the fiberglass outboard, which is up almost 19%, that's 1,400 units. So if the trend continues, yes, we're going to be extremely pleased. But because of the small volume in the third quarter, James, that we're just not ready to say that we think that the turn has really happened. I think the other thing we've all got to acknowledge is, I think, the pause button was hit by a lot of businesses in view of the debacle in Washington. And the kind of, the folks, our customers who buy these larger boats, are strong business people. And as we have kicked the can forward in Washington to the first quarter, I think we've all got to be realistic that until the events in Washington unfold, and hopefully something real happens, the pause button is probably being hit, but we're not fast forwarding right now. And we're just going to need to wait for that to unfold early in 2014 for us to get a real view of whether this is real and how it's going to continue.

James Hardiman - Longbow Research LLC

Analyst

Makes a lot of sense. I guess my second question, I thought, probably the most important revelation you gave us is that global retail -- I think you said global retail unit growth was 11% in the quarter just -- I guess, first question, is that the right number?

Dustan E. McCoy

Analyst

That's the right number.

James Hardiman - Longbow Research LLC

Analyst

Okay. That seems like a really good number in a quarter where in some key segments you were looking to bring down inventory levels. I guess talk about the makeup maybe of that 11%. You talked about industry cruisers being up 28% and yachts being up 27%. Did you get your fair share of that? And ultimately, would that number maybe have been a little bit higher if you weren't bringing down inventories? I guess, another way to ask that is, what do you think the dollar growth looked like at retail in the quarter?

Dustan E. McCoy

Analyst

Yes, if I may, let me go at it this way. There, in the fastest-growing segments in this market, our brands and our folks are taking share really nicely, and that's in aluminum fish, pontoon and outboard fiberglass. In our outboard fiberglass, that's just one brand, Whaler, but our Whaler team is doing a great job of taking share in increasing dollars. When we get to the sterndrive/inboard product, we are not gaining share right now. And in fact, my judgment is we're probably losing a little share, but we probably need to point out to everybody this is according to plan right now, and that's why we're taking down pipelines. And if we look at it in the following way that the story unfolds this way. There's a lot of small products where we've just taken models out. We don't make that good of money. A lot of wonderful brands and great customers in Mercury are moving in to those categories. It's very competitive. And we've made the decision we'll not continue in a big way as we did in the past to continue to put models in the marketplace there. In other places -- and let's give that a size range. That's, say, under 23 feet. Then as we get up to, say, 40 feet or so, again, it's a part of our desire to reduce the complexity in our operations. We have also made the decision during this particular time frame to take some models out of the lineup. And we carefully chose those models, probably didn't have the margin that the models we kept have, and we wanted to get our business really positioned for what we believe will ultimately be a time of growth. In the bigger boats, say, 40 feet and above, a couple…

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Greg Badishkanian from Citigroup.

Gregory R. Badishkanian - Citigroup Inc, Research Division

Analyst

And I just wanted to follow up on the last answer you gave, which was you have a significant investment. And when will -- when would you expect to see the benefits of that hitting the P&L?

Dustan E. McCoy

Analyst

I'm going to try to encourage attendance at our November 12 meeting, Greg. Come to the November 12 meeting [indiscernible] how that stuff unfolds.

Gregory R. Badishkanian - Citigroup Inc, Research Division

Analyst

Good way to build to attendance there. And this might be another question you push off as well. But just in terms of getting a handle on the relationship between retail and wholesale in 2014, how should we be kind of thinking about the -- about that relationship?

Dustan E. McCoy

Analyst

I think for everything but our bigger boats, we ought to easily fall back in the wholesale equals retail. I think they're going to be in some bigger boat categories as we continue to roll out boats, new boats, Greg. We will not be putting some of the older models into the pipeline. So I suspect, as we go through '14, it won't be nearly as equal as -- let's say, 50 feet and above, as you'll see it in other categories. And again, that's all per our plan.

Gregory R. Badishkanian - Citigroup Inc, Research Division

Analyst

Good. And then just based on maybe latest discussions you've had with you dealer customers, how's the retail environment been developing over the last month or so, which maybe wasn't reflected in the September stat service?

Dustan E. McCoy

Analyst

Continues to feel good. And a lot of that, maybe until the last week or so, was driven by nice weather all around the nation. I don't -- actually, Greg, I've forgotten where you live, but it's cold here in Chicago. And I'm still boating on the weekend down at Kentucky, but I'm wearing a jacket, and I love to boat.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Mike Swartz from SunTrust.

Michael A. Swartz - SunTrust Robinson Humphrey, Inc., Research Division

Analyst

I just wanted to touch on Europe, and I know we don't talk about it a lot, but I mean, Europe being up kind of mid-teens. Could you give us maybe some color around what's going on there? I know it's been weak over the past several years in particular, but the Boat business looked like it was up nicely and Fitness has been growing there over the past several quarters. So maybe just a little more granularity about what you're seeing there, if you're starting to see a turn.

Dustan E. McCoy

Analyst

Why don't we do it, if we could, just by segment. First, Bowling & Billiards wouldn't look as good because we sold the centers in Europe. Fitness, as we said during our prepared remarks, was really up nicely. I think 25% in the quarter. I mean, as we said, it's a combination of 3 things: new product, new distribution, and then we're seeing some growth in that market, in the fitness industry. And I think we're getting more than our fair share there. In the Marine business, it's probably more there that the market is slightly improving rather than declining. Last year at this time, we were still suffering some pretty tough declines. I won't say that the market is taking off in Marine, but it is settled out, maybe some slight improvement, and again, I think we're getting our fair share. And there's probably some dealers who were just too low, maybe some in P&A and things like that who needed to get themselves stocked up in order to get take care of demand. So in Marine, I don't see any remarkable recovery, but boy, we have stopped the decline over there. And then, if I do a little subsegment, we have some great European boat models that we include in our boat numbers. And we've had great new product, and we had a particular brand over there in the Nordics that has really come back strong through new distribution as well as new product. The other brand is going it through a new product, and we've seen nice increases in retail and wholesale there.

Gerrick L. Johnson - BMO Capital Markets U.S.

Analyst

And then just in terms of maybe Europe, the marine market showing a little bit of stabilization. I mean, how does that play into how you think about just the global marine industry going into 2014 in terms of -- in the past, you said your outlook was a kind of base case of flat to up 5 growth? I mean, how does that change that, if it does?

Dustan E. McCoy

Analyst

Mike, what I'd like to do is wait until we get to our November conference, and we'll talk about what we're thinking about markets look like after '13; and in our earnings call in January, we talk about -- what we think about '14. I can give you a better look. I'm a little reluctant right now to get out on a limb about what we think the markets look like in '14.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Tim Conder, Wells Fargo Securities.

Timothy A. Conder - Wells Fargo Securities, LLC, Research Division

Analyst

Well, sir, a couple things here. Brazil, you called that out specifically as benefiting the growth rates and that's been a focus. You've got the assembly operation up and running there last year. Was that, the driver of the benefit in the quarter, was that more of a -- the initial pipeline fill into the dealers? Or how are you seeing the sell-through? And then do you see here in the very near future, where do you see that normalizing and getting up to the sort of the playing, so to speak, on the water here with the run rate?

Dustan E. McCoy

Analyst

Tim, when we spoke about Brazil, we are really talking about fourth quarter and beyond. We didn't really see any benefit in this quarter in Brazil, any significant benefit in that account. What's happening down in Brazil then as we get to fourth quarter, our plant's up and running. It's running nicely. We've gotten -- we've gotten product into distribution now, and we have great distribution. They've got now some experience with us on quality of product, how to sell, et cetera. We just completed a big boat show down there, and we did really well. We met all of our targets. So that's a market where as you go in brand-new and you start growing with a new plant, new distribution, it just takes time. I'm, again, Tim, reluctant to tell you what run rates are going to be going forward, but I think as we -- we're just starting the season down there. I think by the time we get to January here, which will be mid season there, we'll have pretty good view of how that market is performing. But it's a market we're very upbeat about.

Timothy A. Conder - Wells Fargo Securities, LLC, Research Division

Analyst

Okay, okay. And then you had talked here over the last year or so, now, obviously, you think the way through all the challenges, the financial crisis, yet things are still ramping up slowly here domestically from an overall economy standpoint. But looking at areas that you hadn't focused on, one is Brazil, obviously, we just discussed that. But maybe other geographic white spaces. Can you kind of just briefly again, Dusty, remind us there? And then would there be any product white spaces or segments of the marine market that maybe you might look at? You're peeling off some of the areas where, obviously, volumes aren't that great and then you don't anticipate them coming back that quickly, but maybe other areas that you might look at?

Dustan E. McCoy

Analyst

Sure. Let's do geographic first. We'll probably need to focus on just the segments again. We called out we're having great growth in our Fitness business outside United States. And as we look at continuing growth areas and those that stay strong, we would say South Latin America and Asia-Pacific will be nice focuses for us in our Fitness business. As we look at our Engine business, we think, Tim, that probably the 2 biggest geographic growth areas for us will be P&A outside the United States and commercial markets for our outboard engines. And that would be -- as we think of those commercial markets, a strong focus there in Asia Pacific region. As we look at product white spaces, I'm going to be careful here for competitive reasons, but I can call out one. We've just introduced, our Sea Ray guys did, a new 35-foot barrel rider. Really good segment has been those really large barrel riders, twin-engine boats that would normally have been only cruiser-type boats. And that's a place we've just not participated. We had a 30-footer, but we didn't have anything above 30 foot. Our 30-footers have done really, really well. So this 35-footer, as an example, we're really excited about. And as we walk through both our engine and both product plan over the next 5 to 10 years and our guys do a very good job by having very long product plans, and then we know where we're going to be investing and what we want to go do. We're pretty excited about a lot of the product white spaces. And perhaps in our November meeting, we'll try to raise the curtains just enough so that you'll see feet under there, know that it's real, but we're trying not to show you what they look like.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Jimmy Baker from B. Riley and Company.

Jimmy Baker - B. Riley Caris, Research Division

Analyst

Most of my questions have actually been answered, but I just have a couple of follow-ups. So first, just sticking on the growth investments, I think you previously expected the Q3 operating expenses would be up about 10% year-over-year. And it looks like it came in just under -- up 6%. I'm just trying to understand if any of those planned growth investments were deferred? Or maybe you could just help by providing some context on how expense growth will fare relative to sales growth as we head into 2014.

Dustan E. McCoy

Analyst

Great question. No, we haven't deferred anything. It's still pedal to the metal. And it's a timing issue. We just couldn't quite get everything done we had hoped to in the third quarter, but as we're looking ahead to the fourth quarter, my suspicion is we'll do a little catch-up versus what we did in the third quarter, as well as continue with the spending we've planned in the fourth quarter, Jimmy.

Jimmy Baker - B. Riley Caris, Research Division

Analyst

I guess maybe I wasn't clear. I was just interested in how that would fare as we move into 2014? And maybe it'd be helpful to -- if you could share like an operating leverage target or something to just kind of frame how we should think about expenses trending with sales into 2014?

Dustan E. McCoy

Analyst

Again, Jimmy, I'm going to keep encouraging attendance in our November meeting. We'll give you a good view of '14 and beyond. And that leverage question is, we know, an important question for everyone. We'll try to do our -- as good a job as we know how and laying that out so people can see and have a good feel.

Jimmy Baker - B. Riley Caris, Research Division

Analyst

Okay, I'll look forward to that. So then I think it was -- Dusty, in your response to -- I think it was James' first question on boat categories was really helpful. But I just wanted to attack that from Mercury's angle. Because I think at the retail level, there now seems to be a fairly significant divergence taking place where the inboard market is improving, but the sterndrives continue to trend negative. Can you just talk about how you see that impacting Mercury's business given the dominance in sterndrives? And I think they have a very small presence in inboards. And then as you pointed out, just a difference in end market sizes makes sterndrive so significant.

Dustan E. McCoy

Analyst

Yes. Well, first, what we think is happening to some extent, there's a lot of former sterndrive customers are becoming outboard customers. And we have great market strength, especially in freshwater outboard. And we've turned our outboard business around through a bunch of great work from our Mercury team, and it's a pretty darn profitable business right now. So yes, we would like the sterndrive market to come back and start growing, but it's not right now. But we're benefiting fine in the outboard business, especially, Jimmy, when it's fresh water. And that's what most of this is, that sterndrive conversion and the people are going to outboard is primarily freshwater. And our market share in freshwater is significantly higher than our overall market share is because we don't do as well in saltwater as we do in freshwater. So from Mercury's perspective, we're doing just fine. We would like there to be more sterndrive customers. We're coming out with our new sterndrive engine next year. It has -- it is going to have lots of features that no consumer has ever seen on a sterndrive engine before, and we think that's important as we move away from the GM blocks and we own this whole franchise that we bring to the market something that others haven't seen. And we're confident that we'll begin to stop the erosion in the sterndrive market. So that's how we're thinking about it.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from the line of Craig Kennison from Robert W. Baird. Craig R. Kennison - Robert W. Baird & Co. Incorporated, Research Division: I wanted to ask about some of your new products like the Element. It does appear that your -- there's an opportunity for you to enter both segments at lower prices and maybe generate more volume. I'm interested in the consumer reaction to that, if you will, lower price strategy.

Dustan E. McCoy

Analyst

The Element is a tremendous success for us. We're actually making and selling a fair bit more than what we thought we would. So a question for us is, is that a boat type with the sort of price target versus the competition that we would want to continue to grow with? And if we look back now to Jimmy's last question, which is a good question, the Element is an outboard product versus a sterndrive product. But yes, we think there's room in the market for a well-priced product. And we think the Bayliner brand is a good place to bring that. Craig R. Kennison - Robert W. Baird & Co. Incorporated, Research Division: That's helpful. And then, Dusty, occasionally you have comment on used boat prices at -- in both aluminum categories and some of the fiberglass categories.

Dustan E. McCoy

Analyst

Well, the used boat market, in my judgment right now, continues to be the biggest competitor any boat brand in America has today. That used boat market is continuing to grow nicely. It's outgrowing new boat sales. And I get it. And our judgment again is that, over time, the used boat market will begin to convert to new boats, and it's important that all of us who make new boats understand the price disparity between new and used, and we got to work hard to close that disparity. Because our judgment is that the used buyer really still wants the boat. They're boating. They want a different boat. They just made the decision to buy used right now. The number of great used product, well, just by the passage of time, continue to decline. But again, those of us who are boat builders really need to understand and make it one of our priorities that we reduce the cost of new boats.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Gerrick Johnson from BMO Capital Markets.

Gerrick L. Johnson - BMO Capital Markets U.S.

Analyst

Any expense in the quarter associated with the cancellation of the jet boat project? And are there any thoughts of restarting that effort later on down the road? And finally, were there any start-up costs associated with that that we won't be anniversary-ing next year?

William L. Metzger

Analyst

Yes, Derek. It's Bill Metzger. Yes, there were some cost recorded associated with exiting or deciding to terminate that program in Q3 that will not occur in '14. And at this point in time, there's no plan to get back into that category.

Gerrick L. Johnson - BMO Capital Markets U.S.

Analyst

Are those expenses flowing through the P&L or are they in the restructuring.

William L. Metzger

Analyst

No, no. They're flowing through the P&L, not treated as restructuring.

Gerrick L. Johnson - BMO Capital Markets U.S.

Analyst

Any idea what are the magnitude of those cost were?

William L. Metzger

Analyst

I prefer not to comment, but...

Gerrick L. Johnson - BMO Capital Markets U.S.

Analyst

Gerrick, I suspect it will be in our 10-Q.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Joe Yurman from 1221 Capital Management.

Joseph J. Yurman - 1221 Partners, LLC

Analyst

I already have my question about the used boats answered and addressed. So as a long-term holder, I completely appreciate the discipline and the prudence at which you're setting us up to compete most effectively in the boat business and the effect that that's having on the dealer channel is going to be positive. With that as a backdrop, with the investments that you've made, the investments that you're currently making, has our ability to chase that emerging kind of big boat demand, has that improved? And this may be something to get into at the meeting in a couple of weeks, but I just kind of want to get a sense of -- so we're not chasing this first signs of life here in the category now, but have we improved our ability to do so?

Dustan E. McCoy

Analyst

Thank you for that first -- thanks for the comment, thanks for the question. We are improving our ability. We're not there yet, and that's to all the investment that we're making that we keep talking about. Our view is that we're going to see a great position in this market, the products that we have, the footprint that we've developed and the ability to get the product its [ph] market share.

Operator

Operator

At this time, I would like to turn the call back to Dusty McCoy for some concluding remarks.

Dustan E. McCoy

Analyst

As usual, we first thank everybody for being on the call; secondly, for the great questions. Well, we have a lot of really smart analysts who really understand our business and we appreciate the questions. I'm doing my best to pump up attendance in our November 12 meeting. The more the merrier, because we're pretty proud of what our plan is going to be going forward, and we look forward to sharing it with everyone. So thank you very much.

Operator

Operator

And ladies and gentlemen, that concludes today's conference. Thank you for your participation, and you may now disconnect. Have a great day.