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AtriCure, Inc. (ATRC)

Q2 2018 Earnings Call· Wed, Aug 1, 2018

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Operator

Operator

Good afternoon, and welcome to AtriCure’s Second Quarter 2018 Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this call is being recorded for replay purposes. I would now like to turn the call over to Lynn Lewis from the Gilmartin Group for a few introductory comments.

Lynn Lewis

Analyst

Thank you, Crystal. By now you should have received a copy of the earnings press release. If you have not received a copy, please call 513-755-4136 to have one e-mailed to you. Before we begin today, let me remind you that the company’s remarks include forward-looking statements. Forward-looking statements are subject to numerous risks and uncertainties, many of which are beyond AtriCure’s control, including risks and uncertainties described from time to time in AtriCure’s SEC filings. AtriCure’s results may differ materially from those projected. AtriCure undertakes no obligation to publicly update any forward-looking statements. Additionally, we refer to non-GAAP financial measures, specifically revenue reported on a constant currency basis and adjusted EBITDA and adjusted loss per share. A reconciliation of these non-GAAP financial measures with the most directly comparable GAAP measures is included in our press release, which is available on our website. With that, I’d like to turn the call over to Mike Carrel, President and Chief Executive Officer. Mike?

Mike Carrel

Analyst

Thanks, Lynn. Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining us. Total revenue for the second quarter was just under $52 million reflecting growth of 14.5% over the second quarter of last year. Our top-line performance was driven largely by the strength of our appendage management products, and with that franchise continuing to demonstrate significant and meaningful traction in both our opened and MIS procedures. We are updating our 2018 revenue expectations to approximately $193 million to $197 million for the year. Turning now first to the area of clinical science. We are very close to completing enrollment in our CONVERGE trial. And as of today, we have 149 out of 153 total patients needed. We anticipate we’ll complete enrollment over the next month. This will be a major milestone in our effort to get the PMA label for the multidisciplinary conversion approach. Our next milestone will be one- year patient probe, which we expect in the second half of 2019 and then the subsequent PMA submission to the FDA. We are also progressing with our clinical programs, which are underway. But as discussed the past several years and emphasized during our Analyst Day in June, the CONVERGE trial is our top priority clinically. Moving to the operational performance in the second quarter. We are continuing to build out our product pipeline and platforms and are seeing solid traction. This is particularly evident in the results we reported this quarter and our appendage management franchise. Recent launches of the AtriClip PRO V and FLEX V products are driving expansion into new accounts and importantly, they have maintained strong pricing through the incremental value they bring to clinicians. Since its U.S. launch last year, the AtriClip PRO V device continues to be highly additive to our product portfolio. In fact, many…

Andy Wade

Analyst

Thanks, Mike. For the second quarter of 2018, revenue increased 14.5% on a GAAP basis to $51.8 million. On a constant currency basis, worldwide revenue increased 13.5%. Revenue from product sales in the U.S. was $40.8 million, an increase of 14.9% from the second quarter of 2017. Revenue from open chest ablation related products in the U.S. increased by approximately $1.3 million to $18.1 million, representing growth of 7.6%, driven chiefly by cryo product sales. U.S. sales of the products used in minimally invasive procedures, was $9.1 million in the second quarter, up 4.5%. This quarter reflects mixed results across our MIS ablation products, with strong growth in both volume and the number of accounts purchasing EPi-Sense, offset by a decline in legacy MIS product lines, which was driven by our fusion product. U.S. sales of appendage management products during the second quarter of 2018 were $13.1 million as compared to $9.5 million for the second quarter of 2017, an increase of 38.4%. The increase was driven primarily by volume across AtriClip product lines and boosted by small pricing impact from strong sales of both the FLEX V and PRO V AtriClips, which carry incrementally higher average selling prices than prior versions of the technology. We continue to remain confident and robust and sustained growth rates for both open and MIS appendage management products. International revenue grew to $11 million, up 13.1% on a GAAP basis and 8.3% on a constant currency basis as compared to the second quarter of 2017. As Mike mentioned earlier, we are happy to report that we had a solid initial order from our new distributor for China. In addition, we had solid performances from Germany, the UK, Italy and some of our smaller markets in Europe. Similar to the U.S. results this quarter, appendage…

Mike Carrel

Analyst

Thank you, Andy. In closing, we are pleased with our second quarter performance and our positioning in both the second half of 2018 and for the long-term. Our mission is simple. We are intent on decreasing the global Afib epidemic and healing the lives of those affected. We are successfully building a portfolio of products with excellent clinical data that expands our reach and benefits the patients worldwide. Thank you. And with that, I'll open it up to the Operator.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions]. And our first question comes from Danielle Antalffy from Leerink Partners. Your line is open.

Rebecca Wang

Analyst

Hi. This is actually Rebecca for Danielle. Thank you guys for taking the questions. Can you guys hear me?

Mike Carrel

Analyst

Yes.

Rebecca Wang

Analyst

Okay, thank you. Can you just – well, congrats on the pretty strong AtriClip business. Can you just split the volume increases versus the price for that business? And also, what do you see going forward, how do you feel about that business in the guidance?

Mike Carrel

Analyst

So, the most of the – the majority of the growth is actually on the volume growth of the business. We are maintaining and getting good margin and good pricing on the V clips. We talked about the -- but the majority of the growth that you're seeing is actually coming from just pure volume, number one. In terms of our growth going forward, it's kind of built into the overall guidance. We're not giving guidance by franchise at this point. We're really focused on the overall number, and we feel comfortable with the guidance that we gave out there.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Jason Mills from Canaccord Genuity. Your line is open.

Dave Rescott

Analyst

Hey, it’s Dave Rescott on for Jason. Can you guys hear me all right?

Mike Carrel

Analyst

Yes.

Andy Wade

Analyst

Yes.

Dave Rescott

Analyst

Congrats on the quarter, especially in appendage management. I think, maybe first if we start there, especially kind of given with last year, this quarter was the toughest year of your comp for appendage management. Can you maybe talk about the factors you're seeing that are contributing to that growth and especially going forward, given that third quarter is going to be, kind of, the easiest comp? And maybe as far as commenting on, kind of, how growth within that segment has been respective as far as new account openings versus utilization within current accounts?

Mike Carrel

Analyst

Sure. I’ll give you some perspective on them. That part of the business is growing for a variety of reasons. Number one is the new technology that we've rolled out. We've rolled out two new clips: Both the PRO V last year that is getting great traction in concomitant treatment when you are doing the conversion procedure. And so we – it's definitely outstripped our expectation relative to that. People really loved that clip. It's really simple, easy to use, very minimally invasive. And so we're getting some growth on the FLEX V, we rolled out in March. We saw great traction right away. It’s actually not cannibalizing at all our core AtriClip business. It's actually just getting into because it's so much easier to use, people that may have been just uncomfortable using a clip before they're actually beginning to put them on and in particular on the CABG market. That is the largest market on the concomitant open side of our business. So you see one of that is just new technology coming out enabling them to do procedures they were either uncomfortable with doing before or they just want a smaller profile device that's implanted. Number two is that the guidelines have, obviously, driven it as well. The open portion of our business is growing nicely. You get a clip with those. The guidelines to treat these patients that these patients live and do better if you treat them at the time of the cardiac surgeries. It's definitely impacting and having a positive effect on that part of the business as well. And then just the overall awareness that has been created in the market about managing the appendage and the importance of managing the appendage through other products in the market, but also through data that's been coming out. There was a recent JAMA article at the FDS conference earlier in the year that talked about the benefits of putting a clip on. There were no fewer than five different specific speeches at that congress talking specifically about managing the appendage and the importance of managing it and the data behind it. So just all of that really is kind of a tailwind that's kind of behind that market, in particular, and we happened to have a great product that everybody knows works very well. In terms of – I can't recall the second portion of the question. I think I covered most of it with that.

Dave Rescott

Analyst

Yes. The second portion is just around kind of utilization versus new account openings with that line of business.

Mike Carrel

Analyst

Yes. We don't give specific on the utilization side, but I mean, we – it's in a lot of accounts. We saw – in the U.S. we're in over 1,000 of the cardiac surgery centers overall in the business. And then within there, we sell AtriClips in the majority of those.

Dave Rescott

Analyst

Okay, then – and maybe a follow-up to that. Just looking – I know in the past you've broke up or – the CABG kind of has been a larger portion of what revenues could be. And I know in the past, you've mentioned, you're around less than 10% penetration. Can you break out as far as what those buckets are within CABG, open, MIS as far as penetration across those lines? Thank you.

Mike Carrel

Analyst

No. We can't do it on a quarterly basis. The numbers that we refer to are information that we gather from CMS and other databases that usually report on an annualized basis. So nothing's changed because we'd be looking back to 2017 data relative to looking at those rates and incidents. What you can see is we're a little bit of barometer of the growth within the market. And I think, we're a leader in that market, but that's really pretty much all I can say about it.

Dave Rescott

Analyst

Okay. Thanks. I’ll hop back in queue.

Mike Carrel

Analyst

Yes.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Mike Matson from Needham & Company. Your line is open.

David Saxon

Analyst

Hi. This is David Saxon on for Mike. Thanks for taking our questions. Just a follow-up on one of the previous questions, just given the favorable mix and kind of what you’re expecting for U.S. appendage management? Would it be safe to assume that this continued gross margin improvement will be there given the favorable mix?

Mike Carrel

Analyst

No. I mean, the range is kind of what it is. We've reaffirmed the 72% to – 72.5% to 73.5% and there's always going to be wiggle based on product mix. This particular quarter it was favorable, but – and obviously, we continue to trying to step forward into our longer-term goal but the guidance we feel very comfortable with.

David Saxon

Analyst

Okay. And then kind of just on the comments around training. Do you track utilization of doctors after you train them? And if so, can you comment on that?

Mike Carrel

Analyst

We do track and watch, kind of, the use and the treatment afterwards. And it's been consistent for all the years that the surgeons that go to our training. They do tend to see an increase in adoption and training the clinicians. Nothing specific, but it's been consistent from that standpoint. We actually see a lot more now than we used as we see a lot of repeat people that actually came to a class before, they want kind of come again, get to refresh the course. Maybe do some more advanced ablations. And so we definitely see that as well.

David Saxon

Analyst

Great. And then just lastly, I mean, I can appreciate the legal expenses have decreased in this last quarter. Was there any EPS impact? Or was it negligible?

Andy Wade

Analyst

For the second quarter, it was somewhat negligible. We talked about around $1 million in the first quarter. So it’s come down pretty dramatically, as we talked about most of the work was in Q1. And then early Q2 to prep for document production, but right now, it’s very quiet at this point while the DOJ takes all of that into review.

David Saxon

Analyst

Excellent. Great. Thank you very much.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And our next question comes from Matthew O’Brien from Piper Jaffray. Your line is open. Matthew O’Brien: Good afternoon. Thanks for taking the questions. Just a quick housekeeping question. International stocking, you mentioned a bigger order from your Chinese distributor, can you quantify how much that was?

Mike Carrel

Analyst

Actually, it was not an international stocking order. So it was a typical order of demand coming out of China. It was our first time that they were into the market. We signed the agreement with them. It was for real demand with sub- distributors that they seek out in the market today, so we anticipate that, if you recall back in Q1, we had zero orders from China and we’re kind of back on to a normal track at this point in time. Matthew O’Brien: Excellent .

Mike Carrel

Analyst

We don’t get specific by country numbers. So this is more typical to what we would have otherwise expected in previous quarters under our previous distributor, but no big stocking order. Matthew O’Brien: Okay. So as I look at guidance then for the rest of the year, I mean, you’ve done just under $100 million in the first half of the year. You’re telling everybody it’s going to be $95 million, $96 million for the back half of the year. Typically, you do about 51% of your sales in the back half versus the first half of the year. So why the guidance for the back half of the year? Is there something specific that we should be looking for, just given all the momentum in appendage management business?

Mike Carrel

Analyst

No, nothing specific. I think that we’re just – we want to make sure – obviously, the growth in the clip has far exceeded our expectations to this portion of the year. We’ve had mixed results on the MIS portion of our business and particularly in the legacy side. And we’ve seen disruptions in the past and surprises. And so those things just, kind of, warrant, I think, an outlook to be specific. We’re halfway through the year, and that we don’t want to get too far ahead of ourselves. Matthew O’Brien: Okay, that’s fair. And then last for me, Mike.

Mike Carrel

Analyst

[Indiscernible]. Matthew O’Brien: Okay, that’s fair. I know you don’t want us to get tuned in front of ourselves on the pain management side of things, but can you talk about the team that you’ve built there? And how to frame up that market as you explore it or even think about it more broadly into 2019?

Mike Carrel

Analyst

Sure. I mean it’s a – so we’ve got four people that joined. We set up a, kind of, a director that’s kind of running that unit right now. Top calling on and working with thoracic surgeons, who intend to use this product for pain management. That group is rolled out in four cities that we’re kind of piloting right now. We will likely expand that group quite substantially next year. The early results right now is we’re getting great feedback. I wouldn’t say it’s driving revenue yet, but it is on the course to definitely driving some revenue and getting in some new accounts from that standpoint. We do view that as a good lever for growth, as we look at 2019 and 2020 for sure. And as we expand that team from four and more than likely at least double it next year. Matthew O’Brien: Got it. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Suraj Kalia from Northland Capital Markets. Your line is open.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Hi, this Megan [ph] for Suraj. Thanks for taking my questions. First, maybe on AtriClips. Can you give us an idea how many were implemented in the quarter and we’re still on track to implement 40,000 or 50,000 during the full year?

Mike Carrel

Analyst

Yes, we didn’t give a specific number for the quarter, but we are on track to hit the numbers that you talked about, yes.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Got it. And then just on MIS ablation, seems to be slowing down a bit both in U.S. and internationally. Any specific dynamics there that we should be looking at?

Mike Carrel

Analyst

Can you repeat that?

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Yes. Just on the ablation internationally and U.S. with the little bit of slowdown on minimally invasive. Is there any dynamics there that we should be looking at?

Mike Carrel

Analyst

No dynamics specifically actually on the international front. And we feel really good about the results that came in, overall. I mean, country by country, we actually did well. We talked about China before. We didn’t get growth out of China, but we had a consistent number. So we have that, Japan actually had a very good growth. And as we look at the – on the European side of things, we’re beginning to see traction for CONVERGE in Germany and Italy. We had traction there in the UK. But other than that, it’s just like MIS, in general, you just have some heavy users sometimes that might feel a little bit of pressure and the same is true in the United States in some of the legacy business we have.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Great.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And I’m showing no further questions from our phone lines. I would like to turn the conference back over to Mike Carrel for any closing remarks.

Mike Carrel

Analyst

Great. Well, again, everyone, thank you so much for joining us this evening, we look forward to talking to you over the course of the quarter. Have a good evening.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for your participation in today’s conference. This does conclude the program, and you may all disconnect. Everyone, have a wonderful day.