Nicolas Finazzo
Analyst · RBC. Your line is open.
Not the overall marketplace, not on 757s because there's a limited amount of aircraft out there. I think we're going to have the last 12 of 13 airplanes that get converted and then Precision won't be doing any more 757s. Now there are A321s out there that are being converted A320s, 737NGs and there's a lot of companies with book value problems that are converting airplanes to basically kick the can down the road and re-up the depreciation to, I don't know, 15 to 30 more years depending on how aggressive the opt [ph] lessees are being with that equipment. And we are hearing that there's a lot of availability of 737NGs hitting the market and that, that market is softening. Now that's part of the reason why you're not seeing us do any 737NG conversions because right now, the economics don't look good. It looks like you're just trying to defer depreciation over a longer period of time by making a conversion investment. So, yes, I do believe there's downward pressure on the cargo market, depending on the specific aircraft type, 737NG, I think, is an example of significant downward pressure because of the amount of availability of equipment, not seeing it on the 757. 767, everything that's out there, again, I've said previously that those are being committed by the large cargo carriers that operate large fleets of that type. There's very little availability of that. It's forcing people to look at converting A330s. There are some parties out there that now are looking at doing A330 conversions. That's probably -- maybe not as good as the 767, but there will be - there will be A330s converted. As I said, there are A321s out there. It doesn't quite do what a 737NG, I mean, 757 does, and it's going to be a little similar to a 737NG, but there's not as many of those being converted at this time to say that there's an oversupply of the A321s. So, I don't see a downward pressure on that market yet until - unless I'm going to say -- unless and until there becomes a flood of those airplanes that have been post conversion on the market and available and un-leased, but I'm not hearing that on the A321 yet. It doesn't mean it can't happen. I'm just not hearing it. So, yes, depending on each aircraft type, there are different pressures, positive and negative, on the narrowbody side, I think, that overall, I would describe that as there's a little bit of negative pressure on the - there's a headwind on the narrowbody side for a while. There's too much supply versus the demand. Not seeing it on the kind of the hybrid airplane or the middle of the road airplane the 757, lots of demand on the wide-body side on the 767 and up.