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Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by and welcome to the Pacific Ethanol Incorporated Third Quarter 2019 Financial Results Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speaker presentation, there will be a question-and-answer session [Operator Instructions]. Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded [Operator Instructions]. I would now like to hand the conference to your speaker today Moriah Shilton of LHA Investor Relations. Please go ahead, madam.

Moriah Shilton

Analyst

Thank you, Joelle. And thank you all for joining us today for the Pacific Ethanol third quarter 2019 results conference call. On the call today are Neil Koehler, President and CEO; and Bryon McGregor, CFO. Neil will begin with a review of business highlights, Bryon will provide a summary of the financial and operating results, and then Neil will return to discuss Pacific Ethanol's outlook and open the call for questions. Pacific Ethanol issued a press release yesterday providing details of the company's quarterly results. The company also prepared a presentation for today's call that is available on the company's website at pacificethanol.com. A telephone replay of today's call will be available through November 15th, the details of which are included in yesterday's earnings press release. A webcast replay will also be available at Pacific Ethanol's website. Please note that the information in this call speaks only as of today, November 8th, and therefore you are advised that time-sensitive information may no longer be accurate at the time of any replay. Please refer to the company's Safe Harbor statements on Slide 2 of the presentation available online, which says that some of the comments in this presentation constitute forward-looking statements and considerations that involve a number of risks and uncertainties. The actual future results of Pacific Ethanol could differ materially from those statements. Factors that could cause or contribute to such differences include, but are not limited to, events, risks, and other factors previously and from time-to-time disclosed in Pacific Ethanol's filings with the SEC. Except as required by applicable law, the company assumes no obligation to update any forward-looking statements. In management's prepared remarks, non-GAAP measures will be referenced. Management uses these non-GAAP measures to monitor the financial performance of operations and believe these measures will assist investors in assessing the company's performance for the periods being reported. The company defines adjusted EBITDA as unaudited net income or loss attributed to Pacific Ethanol before interest expense, provision or benefit for income taxes, asset impairments, purchase accounting adjustments, fair value adjustments, and depreciation and amortization expense. To support the company's review of non-GAAP information later in this call, a reconciling table was included in yesterday's press release. It is now my pleasure to introduce Neil Koehler, President and CEO. Neil?

Neil Koehler

Analyst

Thanks, Moriah. And thank you all for joining us today. Before discussing our third quarter results and the current state of the ethanol industry, I would like to provide an update on our strategic initiatives to strengthen our balance sheet, improve our liquidity and reduce our debt. While concluding these potential transactions has taken longer than originally anticipated we are supported by the improving overall market and by stakeholders who understand the ethanol industry, appreciate the closing transactions in this environment takes time, and retain confidence in the Pacific Ethanol team and strategy. We're in discussions with multiple parties around the sale of assets and other strategic initiatives and are working diligently on these transactions. We look forward to providing you with subset of update when we have agreements to announce. We are in the process of documenting a short term extension with CoBank on our peak and credit facilities. Further, we are engaged in collaborative and productive discussions with all of our lenders regarding amendments and extensions. Similar to our other strategic objectives, these activities take time to complete. And we believe we will likely take a step approach initially beginning with shorter term extensions to align interest and then longer term agreements to facilitate the effect of implementation of our strategic plan. During the third quarter, the ethanol industry experienced among the worst production margins in the years due a large part to the EPA's excessive granting to small refinery exemptions, and the continuing trade dispute with China. The prolonged negative margin environment resulted in industry production capacity, going offline through planned idling and slowdowns. As company, we continue to have one plan in shut down and are running the rest of our facility at less than full operating capacity for a combined run rate in the quarter…

Bryon McGregor

Analyst

Thank you, Neil. For the third quarter of 2019, net sales were $365 million, compared to $346 million in the second quarter, but most of this growth coming from third party gallons sold. Cost of goods sold was $300 million. The quarterly increase in average corn prices without a material corresponding increase in ethanol prices resulted in the gross loss of $14.8 million compared to a gross profit of $4 million in the prior quarter. SG&A expenses were $8.7 million compared to $6.7 million in the second quarter, reflecting an increase in professional services and an employee medical benefits. Loss available to common shareholders was $27.6 million or $0.58 per share compared to $8 million or $0.17 per share in the second quarter. Adjusted EBITDA was negative $12.4 million, compared to $7.2 million in the second quarter of 2019. Our capital expenditures for the first nine months of 2019 totaled $2.1 million, mostly attributable to ongoing repair and maintenance of our facilities. Coming to our balance sheet, at September 30, 2019, our cash and cash equivalents were $18.9 million compared to $16.5 million at June 30, 2019. As Neil mentioned earlier, we are working with our lenders to amend and extend our existing term loan facilities in notes. These discussions are occurring in parallel with the strategic initiatives also highlighted. CoBank is in documentation to extend its full variance and deferral for the peak in credit facilities in order to evaluate a longer term solution which may first take the form of short term extensions to provide lenders with time to evaluate, establish and execute by longer term solution. With that, I'll turn the call back to Neil.

Neil Koehler

Analyst

Thank you, Bryon. In closing, we're encouraged by the positive margins thus far in the fourth quarter. Industry, ethanol inventories are near two year lows and supply and demand is more balanced than any time this year. And regulatory and trade developments promise to increase the demand for low carbon high octane ethanol moving into 2020. With this backdrop, we are working diligently on closing a number of transactions that will strengthen our balance sheet and position the company and its shareholders to benefit from the improving market environment and growth opportunities ahead. With that, Joelle, I'd like to open the call for questions.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator instructions] Our first question comes from Eric Stine with Craig-Hallum. Your line is now open.

Eric Stine

Analyst

Hi, Neil; hi, Bryon.

Neil Koehler

Analyst

Good morning, Eric.

Eric Stine

Analyst

So just quick on the quarter, look like basis is elevated in the quarter and also co-product return or co-product volumes a bit depressed versus some previous quarters. So maybe just some color on that, some of the things that occurred there during the quarter and then maybe an outlook for both going forward?

Neil Koehler

Analyst

Sure. This has been a certainly a tough year on corn basis with the late planting concerns over the crop itself which actually is turning out to be just fine. But certainly dislocation in certain areas are better than others. Harvest is slow, some areas have barely begun particularly in the upper Midwest. So it has created a situation where, farmers have not been as interested in selling. Pricing hasn't been as elevated they would like to see. You have a lot of on farm storage. And with the concerns around supply, a lot more holding onto that storage and not letting go. So that has resulted in overall corn basis levels that have been higher than average. So that did impact the quarter for certain. As we move into the late harvest, we've seen elevated corn basis that started in the quarter, certain areas worse than others, but it's had an impact. We are still seeing that in today's environment. So looking forward, we do believe that, and if you look at some of the forward offers, once we get this harvest in the bins, and we'll have an update from the USDA this morning on their outlook, but it is still looking like a solid crop and projecting solid carry outs next year. And potentially even greater ones in the year after with expected strong plantings and assuming a more normal production and yield. So we are seeing basis levels, as you move to the end of the year and into the first quarter, starting to relax and move to more historical normal levels. On the co-product return, you have seen some softness in distiller grain and corn oil. We're seeing a little strength in today. So I would say, between the two, the corn basis has been more of an impact than the co-product return in the quarter results.

Eric Stine

Analyst

Got it. And then just thinking about the overall market. I mean, there's - they're differing views, that production has come offline. And you saw 2 more this week. But then also, this is a concern that as plants, they come out of their turnarounds. Does that production ramp back up? So I mean, where do you stand in that debate? What - I mean, it sounds like obviously things have improved quite a bit here in the fourth quarter. But where do you stand in the debate of how things trend with production for the industry?

Neil Koehler

Analyst

Well, we certainly, even with the increased production over the last several weeks, we're still running about 5% to 6% below year before levels. And the same is true on inventory, running about 5% or 6% below. The margin environment has improved, but it's not gotten to the point where - and not enough forward clarity, still have an inverted market, where the forward curve is not showing the kind of profitability we're seeing today. We think as we roll forward that will continue to see it. But if you're a plant that's shut down today, you're going to want to see more clarity on that forward curve before you're going to bring the people back to work and commit the working capital to fire that plant backup. I do think that we have an industry that is - well, we can do more work in this area, it's more disciplined than it's been in the past. And that we are cautiously optimistic that we will see an industry that will continue to keep supply and demand in better balance. But you're right, there's always that risk that with the positive margins, which we have not seen in quite some time that we overdo it as industry and we ramp up production and we get back out of balance. So I - we also, in the prepared remarks, wanted to know the where we see the demand. Because it's really important that ultimately, we do have an industry that is capable of producing more than the current market, is demand. And so incremental demand is critical as we move into next year. And we truly believe that with the EPA, while still a bit of an arm wrestle on the final rule, we are confident that that rule is going to result in more domestic demand starting next year and as we move forward. And that we will see continued growth in exports. And with the China resolution that could be a real shot in the arm to where we quickly could move to where even running closer to full capacity, we will be struggling to meet the demand for ethanol.

Eric Stine

Analyst

Okay. Last one for me. Just on the strategic review. And I can appreciate, you can't give specifics. This is underway. But I mean, it sounds like given the environment things may be getting a little bit easier on that front. Are there - I mean, can you speak to are there any potential sales or other things that you've got going that would be triggered by a favorable 2020 RVO or favorable movement in regard to China in trade.

Neil Koehler

Analyst

Yes. As we said, I mean, everybody gets a bit myopic on these transactions. And so when things are very bad, it's like, well, how can we do this. But so having favorable current market and a favorable outlook, as we move into next year, it is very helpful and conducive in being able to complete transactions.

Eric Stine

Analyst

Okay, thanks.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator instructions] And next question comes from Amit Dayal with H.C. Wainwright. Your line is now open.

Amit Dayal

Analyst · H.C. Wainwright. Your line is now open.

Thank you. Good morning, everyone.

Neil Koehler

Analyst · H.C. Wainwright. Your line is now open.

Good morning.

Amit Dayal

Analyst · H.C. Wainwright. Your line is now open.

Just in front of the E15 availability now in the market in a more sort of regular basis, has that impacted or how has that impacted from an industry perspective, the production and demand side of things?

Neil Koehler

Analyst · H.C. Wainwright. Your line is now open.

It's been incremental, but very modest today. And that's why the proper implementation of the RFS is critical. We really need that driver to say you have to blend more than 10% at least in some markets. We have nearly 2000 sessions. The economics of E15 continue to be excellent. The performance you have virtually every car on the road today is approved for using E15 either through warranty or by the EPA. So all of the pieces are there. But we do need a little push to get it into the marketplace. And that's where a minimum of 15 billion gallons of conventional ethanol under the RFS is critical. At 143 billion gallon market, that's a 14.3 billion of ethanol to produce E10. And to find a home for another 700 plus million gallons. Because we do believe that 15 billion is the floor, it's not the ceiling. That will necessitate higher blends both in the form of incremental E15 and E85. So we do believe that the compelling economics of E15 with the proper regulatory signal, we will see a good increase in the blending of E15 next year and years to come. I'd also note that we're working very collaboratively and expeditiously with state of California to prove the use of E15 now in the state of California, which will be a very important tool for further compliance under the low carbon fuel standard. So we're very optimistic on higher blends, not only E15 in the near to midterm, but higher blends the E25, E30 as we move towards higher octane fuels and higher compression, combustion engines.

Amit Dayal

Analyst · H.C. Wainwright. Your line is now open.

Understood. Thank you for that and then on a regulatory front, there were some expectations that, some final ruling we have already come into play, but this keeps getting pushed out. Is there a timeline you have or the industry has on when something could come about or does this become a 2020 type of thing?

Neil Koehler

Analyst · H.C. Wainwright. Your line is now open.

Now, it will quite definitely be this year, the EPA has committed that, the President has committed to that. And it, because of the proposed supplemental rule, which is in play now, which is how we get to the at least 15 billion gallons, meaning 15 billion gallons. The timetable is flipped from the end of November to sometime in December. But the commitment and we believe it will be fulfilled if this rule will be final before the end of the year and will be in effect in 2020.

Amit Dayal

Analyst · H.C. Wainwright. Your line is now open.

Got it. And lastly, just on the strategic initiative side. I know Eric asked this as well, but with some of these improvements now taking place in the market are all the options you have been considering still on the table or has anything changed for you right now?

Neil Koehler

Analyst · H.C. Wainwright. Your line is now open.

All options are on the table. And as we continue to work hard on it, additional opportunities present themselves.

Amit Dayal

Analyst · H.C. Wainwright. Your line is now open.

Got it. That's all I have. Thank you so much.

Neil Koehler

Analyst · H.C. Wainwright. Your line is now open.

Thanks, Amit.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. I'm not showing any further questions at this time. I would now like to turn the call back over to Neil Koehler for any further remarks.

Neil Koehler

Analyst

Thank you, Joelle. And thank you all for joining us today and your continued support of Pacific Ethanol. Look forward to speaking with you soon. Have a great day.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.