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Q3 2014 Earnings Call· Thu, Nov 13, 2014

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Operator

Operator

Hello, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Allied Motion Technologies' Third Quarter 2014 Financial Results Conference Call. As a reminder, all participants are in a listen-only mode. And the conference is being recorded. [Operator Instructions] At this time, I'd like to turn the conference over to Sue Chiarmonte, Vice President and Treasurer of Allied Motion Technologies'. Please go ahead.

Sue Chiarmonte

Analyst

Thank you, operator. Welcome to Allied Motion's conference call to discuss the third quarter ended September 30, 2014. And thank you for joining us on the call today. We distributed our third quarter earnings press release yesterday and copies are available on our Web site at www.alliedmotion.com. Today's call is being broadcast live on the Internet and will be available for replay immediately after the call for 90-days. To access the Internet broadcast or the replay, go to the company's Web site, click on the Investor Relations page and then click on the Webcast icon. As a reminder, please note that the Safe Harbor statements included in the press release also apply to all comments made on this conference call. I will now turn the call over to Dick Warzala, Chairman, President and CEO of Allied Motion Technologies.

Dick Warzala

Analyst

Thank you, Sue. And welcome everyone to our third quarter 2014 conference call. Please note that this quarter is the third full quarter of reporting that includes the Globe Motors results in our numbers. Here is the plan for today's call. I will begin with a highlight of the year-to-date pro forma results and will then turn the call over to Rob Maida, our CFO, who will provide you with a complete and detailed financial review of the quarter and year-to-date results. After Rob returns the call to me, I will further elaborate on our earnings announcement press release and provide you with some additional insight as to the activities and opportunities we see for the future. Once that is complete, I will then open the mics for question. I'll start now with some brief comments. As previously indicated, we will continue to provide unaudited pro forma information throughout 2014, as a means of providing a comparison of revenue, net income and earning per share, giving effect to the acquisition as compared to the historical results for Allied Motion. Accordingly, the company's pro forma financial information for the nine-months ended September 30, 2013 giving effect to the acquisition of Globe Motors as if it had occurred at January 1, 2013 and that's compared to the actual results for the same period of 2014 are as follows. Revenue for pro forma 2013 year-to-date was $164.6 million compared to the actual 2014 year-to-date of $187.8 million. Net income for the pro forma year-to-date 2013 was $6 million compared to the actual year-to-date 2014 of $9 million. Diluted earnings per share for the pro forma period of year-to-date 2013 is $0.67 per share compared to the actual year-to-date 2014 of $0.98 per share. As a reminder, included in the pro forma information is the additional depreciation and amortization resulting from the valuation of amortizable, tangible and intangible assets. Interest and borrowings made by the company, amortization of deferred finance cost incurred to issue the borrowings, removal of acquisition related transaction costs, removal of certain costs for which Allied Motion would be identified by the seller and stock compensation expense related to shares issued to certain executives of Allied Motion as a result of the acquisition. Now, I'd like to turn the call over to Rob Maida who'll provide a detailed financial review and then, I will be back to provide you with some insight as to the key activities and opportunities for 2014. Rob?

Rob Maida

Analyst

Thank you, Dick. As was reflected in our press release that was put out Wednesday evening, the company achieved net income of $4.1 million or $0.45 per diluted share for the quarter ended September 30, 2014, compared to net income of $833,000 or $0.09 per diluted share for the same period last year. EBITDA increased to $9.5 million for the quarter from $1.6 million for the same period last year and adjusted EBITDA, which excludes stock compensation expense as well as certain other items increased to $9.9 million in the third quarter compared to $2.4 million for the same period last year. Revenues for the quarter were a record $65.3 million, compared to $24.9 million for the same quarter last year. This is an increase of 162% with a 163% of the increase due to higher sales volume offset by 1% on favorable currency change due to the dollar strengthening against the foreign currencies where we do business. Looking at our total sales for the quarter, 68% were to U.S. customers compared to 54% for the same period last year, with the balance of our sales to customers primarily in Europe, Sweden and Asia. The 162% increase in sales, reflects higher sales at most TUs and is a result of 233% increase in sales to our U.S. customers and an 81% increase in sales to customers outside the U.S. Bookings for the quarter were $66.7 million compared to $25 million for the same period last year, or an increase of $41.7 million, resulting from the addition of Globe as well as increases at most of our TUs and reflects a continuation of growth recognized in previous quarters. Backlog was basically flat increasing from $80.8 million to $80.9 million for the quarter. Backlog is also up when compared to $79.7 million…

Dick Warzala

Analyst

Thank you, Rob. As with past practice, what I like to do is read the quote portion of our press release to you just in case you hadn't had a chance to see it and then, we'll elaborate more on that quote later. The press release on November -- released yesterday November 12, I made the following statement. We are very pleased with the record results for the third quarter 2014 as they once again validate our previous comments that we expected our revenues for 2014 to more than double relative to Allied's 2013 pre-acquisition revenues and for the Globe acquisition to be accretive to earnings. When comparing the actual results of Allied and Globe for the nine months ended September 30, 2014, the pro forma results of Allied and Globe for the same period of 2013, our revenues increased to $187.8 million from a pro forma of $164.6 million and our earnings increased to $0.98 a share from a pro forma of $0.67 a share. Also, on a year-to-date basis, we experienced growth in our served markets of Aerospace and Defense, Medical and Vehicle, while our Industrial and Electronics markets were flat. With the acquisition of Globe Motors in late 2013, the current year has truly been transformative for Allied Motion. And in late September, we updated our long-term strategy and set new goals and objectives to continuously grow and improve our profitability in the future. In addition, we define a critical issues or action items that we will be focusing on for the next three plus years in support of our new growth and profitability objectives. As we move forward into the future, the long-term success of our company will be further enhanced by executing our strategy and leveraging our full capabilities to design innovative "Motion Solutions That…

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] The first question today is from Jon Braatz with Kansas City Capital. Please go ahead.

Jon Braatz - Kansas City Capital

Analyst

Good morning, Dick.

Dick Warzala

Analyst

Good morning, Jon.

Jon Braatz - Kansas City Capital

Analyst

Sort of a newbie here to start looking at your company, but when I look at the pro forma sales numbers that you gave for the six months or I mean for the nine months. Can you give me a sense as to – it looks like the growth has been about 14%. How much of that growth might be coming from the – organic piece of business that you had, or is it all coming from the growth from the acquisition you made?

Dick Warzala

Analyst

It's coming from both Jon.

Jon Braatz - Kansas City Capital

Analyst

Okay, okay. And then secondly, when you talk about some of the strategic changes you're making or strategic actions you're taking, I know you want to be a little bit, you don't want to be too candid. But in terms of measuring the performance of the company and how well its doing it is, is there something that you're – some financial program, economic value added or something like that, that you're considering or are you using to evaluate the performance and how well the company is doing against those measurements?

Dick Warzala

Analyst

Sure. We actually do use EVA as the bonus program within the majority of the company and I say the majority because as Globe was added this past year, they had a structure that was already in place and when we acquired Globe we made a commitment that we would not change anything, or at least one year until we got a chance to truly understand the business better and not make any critical mistakes and rush too quickly. As I said before Globe wasn't broken and we don't buy broken companies therefore we were in a position where we had to rush in and start to make changes, and I think in fact it's proven to be the correct decision. So we do use EDA and when we create our strategy there are goals and objectives that we set for return on sales for growth objectives for our target market segments and again I don't have to be specific about those or what those are, but we continuously look to ratchet those up and prove over time. So yes, there are and yes, EDA is a critical element that we feel enhances the value for our shareholders by measured on it and if we meet the metrics as dictated by EDA we'll get a bonus, if we don't, we won't and I like to say that we look and the only people we have to look at that point is ourselves, looking in mirror, since it's in our hands.

Jon Braatz - Kansas City Capital

Analyst

Okay. Is there any PC or compensation exempts associated with the performance of this, the stock price? I ask that because obviously stock has gone up a little bit here and might go up tomorrow, I am wondering if there might be some under approval that might hit the fourth quarter?

Dick Warzala

Analyst

No. There is nothing in there for stock price.

Jon Braatz - Kansas City Capital

Analyst

Okay, all right. Thank you very much.

Dick Warzala

Analyst

Thank you for attending the call.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] The next question is from Bill Selby with Gabelli. Please go ahead.

Bill Selby - Gabelli

Analyst

Good morning.

Dick Warzala

Analyst

Good morning, Bill.

Bill Selby - Gabelli

Analyst

One question on the cost side and one on the revenue side. So that it looks like the EBITDA margin went from 12% to over 14% and it seems like the acquisition, is there something more going on here than just the acquisition and moving expenses? That was one question. And the second question is on the top line growth where you're gaining share and if so sort of who are you gaining share from or how is that happening? Thanks.

Dick Warzala

Analyst

Hey, Bill, I'll let Rob tackle the cost question; he may have the clarification, but go ahead Rob.

Rob Maida

Analyst

Good morning, Bill. You've had asked the question as to whether there is something more going on in the movement of EBITDA and the answer to that really is no. It really is a volume related move here, so nothing additional going on with EBITDA.

Bill Selby - Gabelli

Analyst

All right, thank you. And then just on the top line growth just in factors that are contributing to it, how are you gaining share, how are you, just can you give us a little color on that?

Dick Warzala

Analyst

Sure. Well, there are certain areas where new programs have kicked in which has increased the revenue for the company. And also I would say to you that we do measure as Rob talks about, I think in the Q you'll see more information about sales domestically and internationally. What we have seen is that the U.S. economy has grown and I would say certainly a factor there is the economic growth based on the – the growth based on the economy. And secondly, we have and we continue to work on and in past conference calls we've talked about our pipeline of new projects and opportunities and we have seen several new opportunities kick in this year and when I say kick in. Just to remind everyone our designing cycle time ranges anywhere from on a low side a year, year-and-a-half to up to three to four years before you start to realize production volumes. And we did have several significant wins this year that are just emerging.

Bill Selby - Gabelli

Analyst

All right. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] The next question is from Mike Hughes with SGF Capital. Please go ahead.

Mike Hughes - SGF Capital

Analyst

Good morning, couple of questions for you. Just a follow up from the last caller, just the revenue was up roughly $3 million sequentially, but G&A was down sequentially as were engineering development expenses, so was there one-time stuff in the prior quarter, if not how sustainable are the expenses at these levels?

Rob Maida

Analyst

John, good morning, Mike, I'm sorry good morning. I will try to answer your question here, is the G&A, the movement in the G&A is really related to the movement of additional compensation associated with the growth in revenues. Dick talked earlier a little bit about EVA, but you also asked about R&D expenses and you mentioned that R&D expenses are also down sequentially. Not – there is nothing that I can really comment on there that would point to a conscious reduction in R&D.

Mike Hughes - SGF Capital

Analyst

Okay. So just thinking about the G&A number is a lot at $6.2 million this quarter. If you were to replicate this level of revenue in the December quarter will the G&A fall out around $6.2 million or are we going to bounce back to the $6.7 million that we saw in the June quarter?

Rob Maida

Analyst

Well, Mike, I think you can appreciate that we really don't provide any guidance, so I am very careful about answering those types of questions.

Mike Hughes - SGF Capital

Analyst

Okay that's fine. One more question for you, just looking at the pro forma numbers obviously, you provided the first nine months and then in the June press release you provided the first six months so we can back into the current quarter. So the pro forma revenue growth for the current quarter was 7.9% for the first half it was 17.6%. So just kind of any comments on the implied – little bit slower growth in the third quarter versus the first half?

Dick Warzala

Analyst

Well, I think it's – you did a good job in analyzing those, and it's a good question. I would have to say we look at it, and we say that we've had revenue growth in eight successive quarters. So I guess I didn't look at it from the first half of the year versus first half and then this quarter versus the third quarter of last year. But typically, I would tell you that we've had questions before about seasonality in the business and we do have some seasonality in our business and it is changing with the addition of Globe. In the past, I would tell you that, we would have seen seasonality that were affected by third quarter would be a normal impact, would be down because of our large percentage of sales into Europe. And as you can see now, we are close to 45% to 50% sales in Europe were down into the 31%, 32% range. So I would say, we don't have a real good answer for you until we see anything in particular occurring as to why the quarters over quarters I think we need to get some more data more and more history behind us before we could actually come back and say we really understand exactly what's happening here. There is seasonality. There are certain customers that take more product at sometimes versus the others. So that's I think the best we can do to answer right now.

Mike Hughes - SGF Capital

Analyst

Okay. That's fair. Let me ask it a little bit differently. How do you feel about the demand environment today versus let's say six months ago and may be if you can address that from North America perspective and then Europe too. That would be great. Thanks.

Dick Warzala

Analyst

Rob you want to –

Rob Maida

Analyst

Sure.

Dick Warzala

Analyst

Talk about the bookings I think that's probably a good way to –

Rob Maida

Analyst

Yes.

Dick Warzala

Analyst

From the demand perspective.

Rob Maida

Analyst

I think to answer your question Mike, if you take a look at the bookings over the last, over the nine month period and the six month period that you talked about, the bookings for this quarter represented a record high bookings for us, so at $66.7 million or $66.8 million bookings for the quarter. So I think to reiterate I think that we have seen some seasonality in the business, but bookings were truly strong in the third quarter. It was strong in the second quarter as well, but I do think that we do need a little bit more of the data to understand how that's going to impact us from a quarter-over-quarter basis on an ongoing basis. We did make a change. Just I think it's important to highlight is that we did make a change which kind of skew the information for us. Last year we made a change that is booking blanket orders in their entirety what we would do which was previous practice what we are doing now is to say that's on the more accurate representation of bookings is to look at as the actual order is released to production. So that also doesn't – from that standpoint and we've got one year worth of data compared against. We don't have several years of data compared against because of the change that we did make. We would have violent swings in orders in the past where we believe the approach we are now taking is a more accurate representation of what we should expect and it's better for us for comparative purposes in the future and we are not going to experience those wild swings like we had in the past. One big blanket order that we booked in the past that could last one year to 18 months which skew the look for us and now I think we will be able to as we move down the road in the future here have a couple of years worth of data and have a more – a better feel for what we can expect from our markets.

Mike Hughes - SGF Capital

Analyst

Okay. Appreciate your thoughts very much. Thank you.

Dick Warzala

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

The next question is from Jon Preizler of RH Capital. Please go ahead.

Jon Preizler - RH Capital

Analyst

Hi, guys, congratulations on a nice quarter. I was hoping to get a little more information maybe qualitatively about secular drivers in your end markets that are spurring demand and just wondering if there is a increased content need of your products and have a couple of follow up questions as well.

Dick Warzala

Analyst

We think there is definitely an increased demand for motion type products. I mean you are seeing motors in automation being included in almost anything today. We are servicing the medical markets as we talked about – you do have an aging population, you have medical mobility, you have medical instrumentation, you have diagnostic equipment, you have surgical equipment. If you started looking at the role that we play in vehicle, so again, you started looking about as vehicles move to more electric that certainly plays right in our hand. Look at emissions control; look at efficiency. All of those types of items certainly indicate that it's a growing market and increasing demand. So material handling, the automation that you are seeing that's going out, out there to what we call robotic material handling devices, so that we see increasing it's in factories, it's in hospitals, it's almost everywhere today. So I will tell you that we are certainly encouraged by, and doesn't seem to be an end to the applications and the growth possibilities and we believe that we are positioned in a good way here to take advantage of some of that in the future.

Jon Preizler - RH Capital

Analyst

Is there a seam where there is, and sort of may be in the past one motor needed, now there is multiple motors needed in your products?

Dick Warzala

Analyst

Sure. That's – rather than looking at it from a one motor needed and several motors needed. I think based on the makeup of our company today and the way we've been positioning ourselves and investing for the future has been to capture more of the sale with regard to that one motor. The motor by itself is just one element. There is other elements that gets packaged around the motor, the electronics the controls/driving interface to the environment, a potential gearing to make it – to give it more power to run in a different manner, the feedback elements or as far as precision of control. So if you hear us talk about becoming a solution provider and that when we developed our strategy and I will share with you that one of the elements there that comes out and it smacks you right in the face is solution, solution, solution. Now get more value for each of the axis that's in the application and that value is the other elements I just discussed with you. So I would look at it that way. To answer your question, there are also certainly more motors being applied in equipment, because the effect of the cost and so forth and it comes down to where electronics seems to be a very high priced item and now as they come in-line, you see more motors being used. And If you look at a for example, patient handling today and how many motors might be on in a patient handling bed, before it might just be one, now it's multiple. So you are correct it's both. But our emphasis is on and our strategy really points that out is that, we believe we put the elements together to take advantage of multiple items around the motor that enhance the value of that single-axis sale.

Jon Preizler - RH Capital

Analyst

Terrific. Thank you for going to detail on that. I was wondering – I know on the past caller you spoke about evaluating on the cross selling opportunities, I wonder if you're going to add into your sales force or changing in the way you go to market or there has been any changes to the sales channel?

Dick Warzala

Analyst

Very good question. Because our sales force is probably listening, you want to know the answer?

Jon Preizler - RH Capital

Analyst

Yes.

Dick Warzala

Analyst

We looked at certain opportunities. And I say internally here, if we look at it in a different manner, have we leveraged any of the synergies within the company and the focus has been unless look at the growth opportunities or synergies first. So you will see and we have seen where we call it technology units or TUs as Rob mentioned in his section, that are reaching out to each other to look at, can we meet the needs of certain applications in a better way. And the sales team has certainly very aggressive when it comes to that if they have a requirement they want to know if there is something else in the company that can satisfy that. So sales team although the structure to-date has not changed there will be improvements and that will be made as we move forward in the future to leverage it in a better manner. And then leveraging that in a better manner means providing them with the tool kit, or the bag of products, call it that might meet the needs – better meet the needs of our customer. So solution centers come into play there. We have applications now where its not just a one product solution. We can offer multiple solutions whether it's a brush motor, a brushless motor with a drive, without a drive, added control, feedback and I think that's the piece that we've got to focus on. I also mentioned that in March of this year, we did bring together sales and engineering force from around the world and put them in the room together and started talking about what some of those opportunities are. And it's very exciting. And it did accelerate the communication between the different companies. So that is where we are seeing at least the sales people reach out and if they're on this call which we want allow them to be of course, they will be asking for more and we will provide that in the future. So very good question.

Jon Preizler - RH Capital

Analyst

And lastly, just on capital allocation that you guys continue update on some stats, wondering how you are balancing use of free cash and what would be the right leverage ratio before you perhaps, as such we engage in the M&A?

Dick Warzala

Analyst

I'll let Rob answer the question about the right amount and then I can talk about the M&A.

Rob Maida

Analyst

All right. Jon, the use of cash and pay down of debt we're very conscious of where we stand and how we're levered currently and certainly we're trying to actually utilize the appropriate level of cash to pay down the debt. The debt that we have at the senior level is fairly cost effective for us while we have obviously some mezzanine debt that we don't have any prepayment opportunities, which is relatively higher and higher cost. So to answer your question, I think that we have tried to keep our cash intact for the time being to leverage some potential opportunities that Dick is going to mention a little bit about our M&A activities while keeping the debt to a reasonable level and where we are today. We've levered only to about 2.5x EBITDA, so a little more than 2.5x of EBITDA. So we're not truly feeling as though we are highly levered and again to balance that we don't really have a great opportunity at this point to pay down the debt, the more expensive debt that we have. So we're trying to maintain much liquidity as we can to capture some opportunities that may come along.

Jon Preizler - RH Capital

Analyst

Thank you.

Dick Warzala

Analyst

And Rob did mention that we're about 2.5x a little more than 2.5x EBITDA, our debt ratio, so and we do feel that we will continue to generate some good cash flows and we did have a modification to the loan agreement which was not in there originally, which does give us some flexibility without having to go back for approval at certain levels of acquisition. So we are continuously looking and I would tell you that we've been focusing on certain bolt-ons that makes sense for us as a company and potentially some technology items that might make sense for us as a company. But we will reengage very quickly here, the idea of looking at other acquisitions that can help us in the future. So we haven't forgotten about them. Our list is intact. And the process is – we are in process and we will continue to look at that as an opportunity to enhance our growth again in the future.

Jon Preizler - RH Capital

Analyst

Great. Thanks for answering the questions. Looking forward to your success.

Dick Warzala

Analyst

Thank you very much Jon.

Operator

Operator

There are no more questions at this time.

Dick Warzala

Analyst

Okay, operator. Well thank you very much, everyone for attending the conference call. We do appreciate you taking the time, I will give you a chance if there is one more time because anybody else out there and if not I will close it but operator is there anyone else?

Operator

Operator

Yes. There is a question from [Michael Mackowski with Quincor Securities] [ph]. Please go ahead.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Excellent quarter gentlemen.

Dick Warzala

Analyst

Thank you, Michael.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Can you help me a little bit, and you touched on that that mezzanine financing represents rough numbers around $0.40 a share on the interest. Is the intent with some of this cash to be in a position to pay that off on the three years or can you give some sort of a feel for how aggressive are you going to be on that part of it?

Dick Warzala

Analyst

Well, I would tell you this Michael that we cannot prepay for three years. And we're one year into it. So we have two more years where our interest is about $5 million a year and so that's what we encourage so far this year and we'll incur it again for additional two years. Our goal and our plan certainly is to reduce that or eliminate that at the end of the period. And we've had a great partner there. There is no question. They were there. They helped us get through it. They got the acquisition done for us. And I think we proven with our ratios right now that we certainly, we're in a position to take on more senior debt and less mezzanine hindsight is great -- rather be in that position, the outstanding is the other way around. But I think we certainly will look at taking that piece out at the right time in the future and we can't do anything for two more years. I mean we can do it and we're still going to pay the fees.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

I guess to put it in a different way, do you feel you're on track with where you want to be obviously that was some pretty rich financing, but do you feel you're on track at this one year end of the situation of where your thoughts should at this time so to speak?

Dick Warzala

Analyst

Yes.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

One last follow-up, 30% margin with the mix that you've got, industrial is flat, you got the others up, I know you don't like breaking those out, but are you seeing a mix in there that you feel like that 30% is going to hold should improve upon any color you can give to that number?

Dick Warzala

Analyst

I would say that we do feel that we had a favorable mix here in the third quarter and looking at all the sales unfolded it was definitely a favorable mix. And there are certain markets I guess no surprise anyone that certain markets, and the gross profit numbers are higher than others. So the 30% if you take a look through the year, we're ranging 29%, 30% in that range, so it hasn't very much the kick up in sales here certainly at a 30% gross profit generated as we cross that break even line we're not, the profit that being produced at a variable margin level not a gross profit level. So to answer your question, we're going to – we don't see anything that's going to change dramatically from what you've seen so far this year, that's going to take some time, it's going to take the increased solution selling that we talked about adding more value to each access and again looking at the different market segments and how we can penetrate those with higher gross profit margins. But not much I wouldn't expect much change.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Last comment, again, greatly appreciate your concentration on the long-term. It is really gratifying to see these long-term shareholders, to see this continually pay off and for you continually stay focused as well as you do on the long run. Thank you.

Dick Warzala

Analyst

Thank you very much. We appreciate you're sticking with us in the long run too. Operator, again, is there anyone out there with a question?

Operator

Operator

There are no more questions at this time.

Dick Warzala

Analyst

Okay. Well, thank you everyone again for attending. And we look forward to talking to you next quarter.