Jerome Dorlack
Analyst · Wells Fargo. Your line is open.
So with -- this is really some of the detail that I think gets lost if you just read some of the high-level summaries. And I’m not -- keep in mind, Colin, I’m not implying that the homework isn’t being done. I just think it’s some of the reports by some of the consulting firms necessarily aren’t at the level of detail they need to be. So with Annex 1, it lists out all of the different HS Code s that are subject to Annex 1 parts. And in there, there’s things that are covered off that Adient just simply doesn’t ship across the border, which means that you’re not subject to the Annex 1 tariff then. So complete seats, as an example, are Annex 1. They’re covered off in Annex 1, but we don’t actually ship complete seats across the border. As you know, our business model is we have our JITs close to our customers. So, we don’t actually ship complete seats across the border. We build seats -- if we’re shipping seats to, I’ll take as an example, Toyota in Kentucky, we ship -- we build our seats by Toyota in Kentucky and we’re not shipping seats out of Mexico to Toyota in Kentucky. And so as a result, we’re not shipping parts that are on Annex 1. Some of the components that we may procure are in Annex 1, but they’re largely directed from that standpoint. So we would get 100% recovery due to the directed nature of them. And what that means then is that, recliners, as an example, the parts in the seat structure are not on Annex 1. And those parts come from China. And if you’re not on Annex 1, you’re then subject to this stacking effect, which means you get hit with the IEEPA tariff, which is the fentanyl tariff, and you get hit with the reciprocal tariff, which is the 125% tariff -- or the 120%, however that stacks up. So then you’re hit with immediately 145% tariff. And that’s why China is our largest exposure, because, as you know, we have our joint venture with Keiper and a couple of legacy parts there. And so, prior to all of these tariffs being laid in, we had about somewhere between just $6 -- roughly a $60 million buyout of China. If you think about our America’s business, our America’s business procures about $5 billion worth of stuff. I mean, $60 million on a $5 billion buy, it’s not significant. But when you put 145% tariff on it, it becomes an issue that the America’s team needs to deal with. And they’re dealing with it in a very effective manner, but it becomes a number that needs to be dealt with from that standpoint. And that’s the nuance between Annex 1, not Annex 1, and then the stacking effect of IEEPA with the reciprocal tariff. And you really need to go HS Code by HS Code.