Jerome Dorlack
Analyst · Bank of America.
Yes. I think when we think about content between ICE and EV, it really varies by region, I would say. In the Americas, when we think ICE versus EV, it's generally a push for us. If we just look at our platforms, in which platforms we have ICE versus EV, really where we see an acceleration is in China. In China, when we go to market on the EV side of the house, especially with NIO and Xiaoping, whereon they're very highly contented EVs, the NIO high end, the Xiaoping high end EVs. And you compare that to an average content per vehicle level in China and we see kind of almost a 2x or 3x multiplier there. And that's why, if you look at by segment what I would call penetration, it's almost 2x, if you compare that to by dollar penetration in the EV market in China and that's just because of content per vehicle there. That's where we really see this multiplier effect is in China, when you look at content per vehicle. We've talked a lot about, when you think pelvic crash management, belts to seats, massage systems, sound in seat and those things are now being right across into Europe and into the Americas. That's where you see this really big accelerator of content per vehicle. To your second question, exposure and risk of capital and capital deployment, we've been I think very good stewards of capital when it comes to leveraging existing brick-and-mortar from an EV versus ICE deployment. And really looking at things like long distance jet, particularly in the Americas and when we've went after an EV platform, we haven't installed new brick-and-mortar. We've really leveraged existing asset footprints. We've leveraged where we can existing lines run those programs side-by-side with their EV counterparts or with their ICE counterparts, sorry, such that, we're somewhat agnostic. If the EV platform doesn't hit, we've got the ICE platform and we can kind of run the two both side-by-side and play off on the volume. Where we don't have the ICE counterpart, we at least have the building, we have the brick-and-mortar. And so we're not stranded with a bunch of fixed costs. We're able to offset that with either more trim volume or put trim or foam or metals capacity into the building or other JIP platforms into the building and utilize that labor. We don't have a lot of stranded costs and we've been able to do that really in Europe and the Americas pretty effectively. We don't have this big fixed cost overhang on the business right now.