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Albertsons Companies, Inc. (ACI)

Q1 2020 Earnings Call· Wed, Jul 24, 2019

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Operator

Operator

Welcome to the Albertsons Companies First Quarter Earnings Conference Call, and thank you for standing by. [Operator Instructions] This call is being recorded. If you have any objections, please disconnect at this time. I would now like to hand the call over to Melissa Plaisance, GVP, Treasury and Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Melissa Plaisance

Analyst

Hello and thank you for joining us for the Albertsons Companies' First Quarter 2019 Earnings Conference Call. With me today from the company are Vivek Sankaran, our CEO; and Bob Dimond, our CFO. Today, Vivek will touch on our recent results, share some observations, discuss some of our plans to grow and improve our business and provide an update in a number of key operating areas. Bob Dimond will then provide an overview of our first quarter results, and Vivek will then make some closing comments. I would like to remind you that management may make statements during this call that includes forward-looking statements within the meaning of the federal securities laws. Forward-looking statements are not limited to historical facts, but contain information about future operating or financial performance. Forward-looking statements are based on our current expectations and assumptions, and involve risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results or events to be materially different from those anticipated. Additional information concerning factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from those in forward-looking statements will be contained from time to time in our SEC filings, including on Form 10-Q, 10-K and 8-K. Any forward-looking statements we make today are only as of today's date, and we undertake no obligation to update or revise any such statements as a result of new information, future events or otherwise. Please keep in mind that included in the financial statements and management's prepared remarks are certain non-GAAP measures, and the historical financial information includes a reconciliation of net income to adjusted EBITDA. And with that, I'll hand the call over to Vivek.

Vivek Sankaran

Analyst

Thanks, Melissa. Good morning and thank you for joining us today. As many of you read this morning, we continue to make very good progress and are delivering solid results. During our first quarter, we had identical sales of 1.5%, and our adjusted EBITDA was approximately $877 million representing 7.5% growth over our first quarter of last year. We have momentum in sales and are demonstrating steady, reliable EBITDA growth. At the same time, a combination of strong free cash flow generation from the business and proceeds from very accretive asset sales, evidenced by the premium to market we received on the sale price and low-cap rate, has allowed us to make significant improvements on our balance sheet, reducing outstanding debt by nearly $1 billion since year-end. Since the beginning of fiscal 2018, we have reduced our principal debt balance by nearly $2.4 billion. We are pleased with the work we're doing to reduce leverage and improve our financial flexibility. We've reduced our total net debt to adjusted EBITDA ratio to 3.3x at the end of the first quarter, and we expect to make further progress over the balance of the year with free cash flow generation and our recently completed sale-leaseback transactions. We, therefore, have a clear path to our stated goal of reducing our total net debt to adjusted EBITDA ratio to 3x. I have spent the last 3 months visiting our stores, distribution centers, manufacturing plants and division and corporate offices. I've spoken with many of our customers, associates, vendor partners, bankers and analysts to better understand our business and industry dynamics, assessing our strengths and opportunities. I've come away very encouraged about our prospects to serve our customers even better, in-store and online, and elevate our performance going forward. Overall, our goal remains to be the…

Robert Dimond

Analyst

Thanks, Vivek, and hello, everyone. Top line sales increased $85 million or 0.5% to $18.74 billion during the first quarter of fiscal 2019 compared to $18.65 billion during the first quarter of fiscal 2018. The increase in sales was primarily driven by our 1.5% increase in identical sales, partially offset by a reduction in sales related to store closures during fiscal 2018. Gross profit margin increased to 28% for the first quarter of fiscal 2019 compared to 27.7% for the first quarter of fiscal 2018. Our gross profit margin benefited from industry-wide, better-than-expected fuel gross margins during the first quarter of fiscal 2019. Excluding the impact of fuel, gross profit margin increased 10 basis points. Shrink expense was lower than a year ago, which continues to be an opportunity for us as we cycle store system conversion activity from last year. Advertising costs were also lower than a year ago. However, these improvements were partially offset by industry-wide reimbursement rate pressures in pharmacy. Selling and administrative expenses decreased to 26.2% of sales during the first quarter of fiscal 2019 compared to 26.7% of sales in the first quarter of fiscal 2018. Excluding the impact of fuel, selling and administrative expenses as a percentage of sales also decreased 50 basis points during the first quarter of fiscal 2019 compared to the prior year. The decrease in selling and administrative expenses was primarily attributable to lower acquisition and integration costs as the store system conversions related to the Safeway integration were completed during fiscal 2018 and the continued realization of the company's cost reduction initiatives. These improvements were partially offset by higher employee wage and benefit costs. Interest expense was $225.2 million during the first quarter of fiscal 2019 compared to $254.6 million during the same quarter last year. The decrease in…

Vivek Sankaran

Analyst

Thank you, Bob. We were pleased to see continuing momentum in identical sales in Q1. Our efforts at remerchandising and refreshing our store base is improving the in-store experience. And as we enhance technology and better leverage data, we are improving the online experience. We will continue to focus on our strengths in the short term, including by growing our innovative Own Brand and delivering a differentiated in-store experience, while at the same time investing into the future to create a long-term next-generation food retailer. As we indicated previously, we made great progress on our balance sheet today and will continue to do so as we generate significant free cash flow moving forward. I will now turn the call back to the operator for questions.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Bryan Hunt, Wells Fargo Securities.

Bryan Hunt

Analyst

Bob, I was just -- based on your 3.1x leverage target by the end of the year and kind of where you stand on LTM EBITDA as well as the sale-leaseback proceeds you'll receive after this quarter, it appears that assumes a very little, if any, EBITDA growth for the rest of the year. Is that a -- is that the way you're coming out as well to get to that 3.1 target?

Robert Dimond

Analyst

Well, as you saw, Bryan, we have not provided guidance for the year. So I'm not going to be able to comment specifically on where those things are. We're really excited, though, about the opportunities that having these 2 additional successful sale-leasebacks, the proceeds of which is roughly $800 million, will provide us the ability to pay down debt. Now you're right, 3.1x is where we expect to be after we apply those proceeds that's indicated there. And we think great progress from where we were just a couple of years ago when you're looking at roughly 4x debt-to-EBITDA ratio.

Bryan Hunt

Analyst

Great. My next question around the sale-leaseback. You've given us an idea of what those assets historically where you don't sale-leasebacks kind of appraise for relative to what you yielded. Can you talk about what was the relative value of those appraised assets versus what the market value ended up being?

Robert Dimond

Analyst

Yes. Well, maybe what I can do is give you a sense for -- if you cobble them all together now. As you might recall, we had about $12 billion of appraised assets before we started doing the sale-leasebacks a couple of years ago. That has reduced now by roughly $2.4 billion and now sits at $9.7 billion of owned appraised assets that remain. Now comparing that to roughly the $3 billion of proceeds that we brought in, that means that we sold on average above appraised value of about 24% on those transactions. The cap rates that we've been able to take advantage of this great real estate market have been phenomenal. And that's one of the reasons why we've decided that this makes sense to do now and have executed these transactions.

Bryan Hunt

Analyst

And 2 more questions. One, there's a lot of press on labor negotiations in California and some as well, I believe, in Oregon. Can you talk about when you cobble together the historical Safeway numbers and Albertsons numbers, what the impact was to overall sales and EBITDA from the last strike in California?

Vivek Sankaran

Analyst

No. Bryan, I'll tell you, we are -- we have -- I think about 2/3 of our labor force is unionized. We continue to negotiate every year with various unions. The negotiations we're doing now are proceeding well. They are proceeding like we expected. We've closed several on the East Coast and the West Coast, and we feel good about where we are proceeding. We are not thinking about the past. We're looking into the future here and feel good about it.

Bryan Hunt

Analyst

Great. And my last question is headlines the last couple of days about SNAP payments and the potential reduction in the amount of SNAP payments going down because of some duplicative payments between various governmental organizations. Can you talk about what your overall SNAP payments are as a percentage of sales?

Robert Dimond

Analyst

Yes. Bryan, our SNAP sales are very small. They represent roughly 3% of our total sales. I believe the article that you saw that came out indicated a 4% reduction approximately to the overall SNAP benefit nationwide. So you extrapolate that out, it will have a very minor impact to our IPs.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from William Reuter, Bank of America Merrill Lynch.

Unknown Analyst

Analyst

This is Mike on for Bill. First question here is some supermarkets have pointed out that there's been increased competition in the produce section. Are you guys seeing any pressures there as well?

Vivek Sankaran

Analyst

Not yet, Bill (sic) [ Mike ]. We offer a great -- our offering is tremendous. We have a big mix of natural organic. We continue to see growth in the overall fresh section in the produce section. We are not seeing any effects of that nature.

Unknown Analyst

Analyst

Great. And then second, could you guys talk about directionally where you see delivery as a percentage of total sales going, maybe not only just you, but in the supermarket space?

Vivek Sankaran

Analyst

So what we believe, we offer both delivery and Drive-Up and Go where we can pick it up in the store. We have a more nuanced delivery. We offer delivery next day, delivery within the hour if you wanted, within a couple of hours if you wanted. We believe that we see customers going in different directions, maybe more in some markets, less in some markets with -- where we could use different mechanisms. And we're going to continue to offer it. And like everyone else, we continue to optimize how we do it, so that we can have a great service and have great financials behind it.

Unknown Analyst

Analyst

Great. And then lastly here, could you talk about what you're seeing in the M&A pipeline? Seems that regional chains have been struggling. How are the valuations for these targets trending?

Robert Dimond

Analyst

Yes. As you know, we've grown through acquisition over time. We tend to look at most of the transactions that you may be referring to that are out there. And we don't really comment on valuations or any that are currently up there on the mix. What I would say is that we'll continue to opportunistically look at opportunities to do tuck-ins, if they're solid assets and if we think that it's going to add some nice synergies to us, which, as you know, in the past we've been able to do so without bringing leverage in a lot of cases where we're able to do in end-market acquisitions.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Jenna Giannelli, Goldman Sachs.

Jenna Giannelli

Analyst

I know you mentioned in your press release that you plan to use the proceeds from the sale-leaseback transaction for debt repayment. How do you envision applying those proceeds? Are you thinking about the term loan or more bonds outstanding, open market repurchases, tendering? Any color would be helpful.

Robert Dimond

Analyst

Yes, Jenna. We do plan on utilizing the proceeds. We're just evaluating our options right now. I think the easiest and most straightforward certainly would be to take out the term loans. We have done a lot of work over the last few months, as you've probably seen, in taking advantage of tender offers and so forth with our bonds. So I think that most likely is probably something with our term loans, as you indicate, but may include a combination of a few things.

Jenna Giannelli

Analyst

Okay. Perfect. That's really helpful. And then I just wanted to ask you on the comp. I think the 1.5% was strong and bested a lot of the investors' expectations that we talk to. I guess can you talk to us a little bit about what are some of the components of that comp. I mean it looks like you outpace them in the broader inflation numbers this quarter. So any commentary on your traffic or the basket mix that you're seeing and just the general cadence of the comp that you saw during the quarter would be great.

Robert Dimond

Analyst

Yes. Jenna, we don't provide the breakout, haven't done so for quite some time on traffic basket. We do tend to focus on what will grow our loyalty numbers and everything else, but we are happy to see the uptick to the 1.5%. We're hopeful that it can continue to grow from there. This is our sixth straight quarter of positive IDs. So I think that we feel very good about the momentum that we're seeing here this year.

Jenna Giannelli

Analyst

Okay. And then just finally, if I may. I know you've talked about your longer-term leverage target in 3.1 by the end of the year. I guess -- 2 parts to that. Any thoughts on where you need to be in order or before you could pursue some sort of a public offering? And then, I guess, commensurately, do you have any rating goals in mind? I think your leverage levels are now starting to approach somewhere maybe as you rated peers. So is that something that's been on your radar or a longer-term goal as well as you think about leverage?

Robert Dimond

Analyst

Yes. We have been working hard on the leverage and reducing that. You maybe saw that we just got our ratings improved over the course of the next couple -- or last couple of months. S&P raised us across the complex up a notch, if you will. Moody's took us from negative to stable. So we're pretty happy with that. And we stated that a goal here a couple of years ago about working down towards 3x leverage. Effectively with the application of these sale-leaseback proceeds we'll be almost there. So not to say that the next step won't be to take it below 3, which it will just in the ordinary course of paying down normal free cash flow or paying down debt with normal free cash flow. On your first question, we think that it does position us. We gave kind of in this 3 range well, so that when the timing is right and everything else lines up for us that an IPO can be in the future.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Geoffrey McKinney, Citi.

Geoffrey McKinney

Analyst

To follow up on Bryan's earlier question on the asset sales. Can you give us a sense? The distribution center you sold, what was the contribution to the total proceeds from that asset relative to the 50 stores?

Robert Dimond

Analyst

We haven't provided that level of specificity, Geoff. So I'd rather not go down to individual asset basis on that.

Geoffrey McKinney

Analyst

Okay. And then to confirm, you operate 23 DCs. I think to this point, you'd sold or monetized 10. So your current ownership is about 13 distribution centers?

Robert Dimond

Analyst

Yes, that sounds right. We really track things as a percent of total. We -- it just so happens that we now own about 40% of our owned -- 40% of our stores as well as 40% of our distribution centers.

Geoffrey McKinney

Analyst

Okay. And 2 more. In terms of capital structure mix, I guess, another way to ask the question. What do you think is the right mix of bank debt versus bonds or secured debt versus unsecured at this point, given the amount of unsecured debt you've retired to-date?

Robert Dimond

Analyst

That's a good question. We've been over time trying to get rid of some of those long-dated bonds that were out there, although we've taken advantage of some of the unsecured market that's been out there on the near term. So we do think that we -- that having a good mix of long-term debt versus a prepayable term loan debt is healthy. That way we can, as we generate free cash flow, be able to pay down the term debt in a logical fashion and not incur a bunch of fees.

Geoffrey McKinney

Analyst

Okay. That's helpful. And then I think on the last call you'd mentioned that you expected fuel margins to likely be a headwind in 2019 as you were thinking about kind of the forwarded bid. Given the tailwind that we saw in 1Q, would you expect that headwind to start to flow through in the next quarter? Or how should we be thinking about that if your expectations changed?

Robert Dimond

Analyst

Yes. It's hard to know at the time that we said that at the end of the fourth quarter, that's after we saw the rapid decline in fuel cost and retails, for that matter. And we didn't necessarily anticipate that we'd see kind of a second wave of that, which we did here in one of the months in Q1. I'm not anticipating that we'll continue to seeing a lot of that going forward as far as continued good news. But you just don't know. It's all driven by the market. We do anticipate that as we start matching up to the fourth quarter that, that will be a little bit of the headwind as we've indicated before though.

Geoffrey McKinney

Analyst

Okay. And I guess bigger picture. I think on the last call you had indicated that you would likely provide guidance on this earnings call. Any drivers for why you kind of move back to the historical mode of not providing any forward guidance? And should we expect it at any point in the future?

Vivek Sankaran

Analyst

Hey, Geoff. This is Vivek here. The answer is very simple. Look, I'm 90 days in. The business is on a very good foundation. And a lot of the things I've observed is that, as I said earlier, that the integration and conversion is behind us, and now we're able to operate at much larger scale. We're considering a lot of different puts and takes in the business working as a management team, working with the Board to develop a plan that we believe will continue to accelerate growth, right, drive growth, drive productivity, serve our customers better. And we just need some more time for those plans to come together. But note that it will be a balanced approach and that we will be coming back to you soon with that.

Geoffrey McKinney

Analyst

Okay. And I guess the puts and takes you're thinking about that might have any meaningful impact this year, any color you can provide there?

Vivek Sankaran

Analyst

I cannot provide guidance for this year yet on this call, Geoff. We'll come back to all of that as we get some clarity.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Karru Martinson, Jefferies.

Karru Martinson

Analyst

So just in terms of the one piece of guidance that you gave of being at 3x by year-end. If we were 3.1x today on a pro forma basis after the first quarter, what's the kind of the cadence of getting there? Is it really that we just kind of grind this out? Or is there something there that pushes us to 2 or below that number?

Robert Dimond

Analyst

Well, with the sale-leaseback coming in, that is what gets us to roughly 3.1 on a net debt basis, so applying that against the debt just kind of keeps you at that level. And then I'm kind of talking about snapshot and time here. We always have our natural build in working capital in our third quarter that is actually a use of cash. But then that follows through with the kind of washing that out towards year-end. So we're kind of expecting a little bit of improvement as we go through the end of the year and just our normal working capital seasonality, but that's how you get from the 3.1 to the 3.0.

Karru Martinson

Analyst

Okay. And then in terms of the CapEx with the new stores, the remodel, the tech, I mean, it doesn't sound like we should be thinking about anything that's really transformative there. Or is there anything tucked into that, that we should be aware of?

Robert Dimond

Analyst

Can you clarify the question for us?

Karru Martinson

Analyst

Just in terms of your use of cash here, given the remodels and the new stores, the tech that you're spending, I mean, it doesn't seem like there are any major new initiatives underway that are different from before. Is that correct?

Robert Dimond

Analyst

I would say, first of all, there are a few things that are kind of exciting that are new. First of all, probably the bigger piece of the dollars are going towards remodels, and that is very important to keep our store base fresh and progressing forward. But we are spending at a slightly higher pace in areas such as IT, for example, where we're spending to support our eCommerce growth. We have other initiatives that are helping to grow digital or universally as well as we have some productivity-type investments that are also somewhat IT driven that relate to the automation of distribution centers, for example, the testing of micro fulfillment centers, for example, that are going to improve things. So I think that those -- we have some other new store renovation as well that we're working on as well. So there's actually a lot of exciting things that are going on out there that will not only help support providing good returns for us, but also drive business forward.

Karru Martinson

Analyst

Okay. Just lastly, in terms of the competitive environment. How has that changed with Amazon coming into the space? There's been a lot of headlines, but it doesn't seem to be all that much on the ground.

Vivek Sankaran

Analyst

This is Vivek here. I'd say the competitive environment is not fundamentally different from the last several months. We think it's a rational environment. Everybody is trying new things much like we are to serve our customers better. And so, to me, regarding Amazon coming in the way, I see that is -- that's an affirmation that you need assets on the ground. You need stores on the ground. And we talk about this notion of being an omnichannel supermarket, I think just reinforces the theory. And so we see a lot of promise in what we are doing in a competitive but a similar -- an environment that's quite similar to what we've seen recently.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Carla Casella, JPMorgan.

Carla Casella

Analyst

I'm wondering if you saw any benefit from the strike at Stop & Shop in the Northeast?

Robert Dimond

Analyst

Yes, Carla. We did see some benefits there for that 11-day time period that they were closed. What I will say, though, is that, that when it washes against total company sales becomes a pretty small piece of our ID. And, in fact, it kind of offset some of the tough comparisons that we had year-over-year in weather on the East Coast. So I would say that when you net those 2 things together, it's kind of a wash for our first quarter ID.

Carla Casella

Analyst

Okay. Great. And then just on the debt paydown piece of it. Was there some point you'll give us then the balances on the different Albertsons and Safeway notes? Bloomberg picks up the tender, but none of the buybacks.

Robert Dimond

Analyst

Yes. We'll follow up with, Carla, a little bit on that. You're right. We do have -- most things are updated in Bloomberg, I believe, but we can clarify that for you.

Carla Casella

Analyst

Yes. And then just on the sale-leaseback proceeds, and in the past either buybacks or tenders that you've done. Is there a reason why you tendered at one point and did buyback separately just in the open market and the other? And going forward, do you think you need -- given that you've taken out so much of them already, do you need to do tenders and make it public to everybody? Or can you do one-off buybacks in the open market?

Robert Dimond

Analyst

We just got to take a look at what the opportunities are there. We did start off with the tender, and what came out of that is what got offered up by the individual players. And then we ended up with some separate open market opportunities that were presented outside of that process. So it just depends how everything comes to us or how the opportunities present.

Carla Casella

Analyst

Okay. And does the structure of having Safeway, New Albertson's and Albertsons just separate -- does that hinder any of your potential IPO prospects? Would you need to clean up the structure completely before IPO-ing? Or you can just -- you're more being just opportunistic in the market?

Robert Dimond

Analyst

We do not need to have it cleaned up before we do an IPO. It is purely opportunistic. If you look at what we were able to accomplish, we were able to buy back $1 billion worth of debt year-to-date at a nice discount to par as well as maybe almost, more importantly, we've -- just the ones that we've done this year year-to-date represent, as we move forward, a $75 million interest savings because you're taking out kind of weighted average 8% -- lower 8% debt. So we think that yes, those were smart moves. And we're getting down to kind of smaller amounts now that are leftover, but we still think that's an opportunity to pick some up at folks who are wanting to get out, but we have taken a lot of that off the table over the last 2 years.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Hale Holden, Barclays.

Hale Holden

Analyst

I just have 2. I was wondering if you could give us a sense of what you were thinking on inflation in the back half of the year, particularly with what looks like increased protein costs across the complex.

Robert Dimond

Analyst

Yes. What I would say on inflation -- I mean it's been pretty stable here. The last quarter or so, if you take a look at it for the -- for our fiscal first quarter that ended kind of the first week or so in May -- second week in May, we had averaged right around 1.1%. And that was just a slight uptick from what the fourth quarter was. If you kind of take a look at it from what the USDA puts out as their forecast for the remainder of the year, they're -- they have kind of a wide range, but they're suggesting that it's 0% to 1.5%. So we're right in the middle of that today, and we would anticipate that we may continue on at this level for potentially a slight uptick.

Vivek Sankaran

Analyst

There's nothing out of the ordinary adjusting.

Hale Holden

Analyst

Great. And then my second question is you guys have had Instacart kind of broadly rolled out here for a couple of months. I was wondering if you could share any metrics or any takeaways in terms of if it's cannibalistic, if you think it's accretive. What you're seeing for baskets or customer takeup or if it's new customers, et cetera?

Vivek Sankaran

Analyst

Yes. I'll tell you how we think about it. It's got a good partner with us, and they complete a part of the offering that our delivery system cannot do, right, which is something that is shorter term, 2 hour, 1 hour windows, and we work with many partners. So that relationship is going well. We'll continue to use them in various places. And by the way, as we build -- what we are focusing a lot on is making sure that the interface with the customer is solid and that we are continuing to drive productivity in the way we pick products, and then we'd use various parties such as Instacart for the delivery.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Patrick Barwin, Aegon.

Vivek Sankaran

Analyst

Patrick? We can't hear you, Patrick. Patrick, we're not able to hear you. Operator, are you there?

Operator

Operator

We've moved on to the next question. Our next participant is Bryan Hunt of Wells Fargo Securities.

Bryan Hunt

Analyst

Just a few follow-ups, and then we can all go to lunch on the East Coast. My first question is you all closed roughly 1.5% or 1.4% of your store base year-over-year. Can you talk about what the accretion was to IDs from those store closures and maybe how many of your customers you retained from those closures?

Robert Dimond

Analyst

It varies, Bryan. We don't have those stats, and we don't provide individual store or market level information. But we take those into account in the decisions we make. But what I would say is that's going to be a very, very small percentage impact to the total ID.

Bryan Hunt

Analyst

Okay. Great. My next question is when -- you're doing a significant number of remodels. That number is accelerating year-over-year. When you look at the remodels you've done in the first quarter as well as all of last year, what type of lifts to sales did you achieve in those remodels? And are you expecting anything different in terms of the tempo of sale lifts on the next roughly 260 you'll do this year?

Robert Dimond

Analyst

Yes. They're all a little bit different. Some of them, as you know, might be a defensive remodel, some may be a...

Vivek Sankaran

Analyst

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Robert Dimond

Analyst

Yes, that generate growth. So what I would say is overall we're hopeful to see somewhere in the 5% to 10% maybe as an average, but they're all over the place.

Bryan Hunt

Analyst

Great. And then my last question is when you look at openings and closings, are you expecting any significant closings for the remainder of the year? And when you look at your openings, what type of tempo do you expect over the next 3 quarters?

Robert Dimond

Analyst

Well, for the full year, we're currently expecting 15 to 17 stores. And the reason why a range, it's possible that there could be a couple of delays and [ can balance ] for the next year.That's the new store. And we had 6 opened in the first quarter. I don't know that it's an even cadence through the year, but that will grow to roughly 15 to 17. As far as closures go, we evaluate that on an ongoing basis, on a quarterly basis. We run our stores for cash when we identify that we may have some bubble stores. We evaluate those carefully and take into consideration maybe just momentary blips in the market that we've got, road closures and whatever this just temporarily affecting a store. But we are not expecting a large number to close this year, although there will be some.

Bryan Hunt

Analyst

Yes. And looking at your closures and your openings, are there any relative geographic concentrations in the closures and/or the openings?

Robert Dimond

Analyst

Not really. They're spread out over our market.

Operator

Operator

We have reached the end of the question-and-answer session. And I would now turn the call back over to Melissa Plaisance for closing remarks.

Melissa Plaisance

Analyst

Thank you, everyone, for participating in this call. [indiscernible] and I will be available for the balance of the day if you have any follow-up questions. Have a great day.

Operator

Operator

This concludes today's conference. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation.