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Arcosa, Inc. (ACA)

Q2 2020 Earnings Call· Fri, Jul 31, 2020

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Operator

Operator

Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Arcosa Incorporated Second Quarter 2020 Earnings Conference Call. My name is Ashley and I will be your conference call coordinator today. As a reminder today's call is being recorded. Now, I would like to turn the call over to your host, Gail Peck, Senior Vice President, Finance and Treasurer for Arcosa. Ms. Peck, you may begin.

Gail Peck

Management

Good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining our second quarter 2020 earnings call. With me today are Antonio Carrillo, President and CEO; and Scott Beasley, CFO. A question-and-answer session will follow their prepared remarks today. A copy of yesterday's press release and the slide presentation for this morning's call are posted at our Investor Relations website www.ir.arcosa.com. A replay of today's call will be available for the next two weeks. Instructions for accessing the replay number are included in the press release. A replay of the webcast will be available for one year on our website under the News and Events tab. Today's comments and presentation slides contain financial measures that have not been prepared in accordance with Generally Accepted Accounting Principles. Reconciliations of non-GAAP financial measures to the closest GAAP measure are included in the appendix of the slide presentation. Let me also remind you that today's conference call contains forward-looking statements as defined by the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Forward-looking statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from such forward-looking statements. Please refer to the company's SEC filings for more information on these risks and uncertainties including our Form 10-K, the earnings press release we filed yesterday, and our Form 10-Q for the second quarter expected to be filed later today. I would now like to turn the call over to Antonio.

Antonio Carrillo

Management

Thank you, Gail. Good morning and thank you for joining today's call to discuss Arcosa's second quarter results and our future outlook. Second quarter results demonstrated the resilience of Arcosa in the face of very challenging business conditions. We have remained fully operational during the pandemic, an essential business whose products and services help keep critical infrastructure working. Turning to slide four, here are the key messages we would like to cover on today's call. During the pandemic, we continued to prioritize the health and well-being of our employees and the communities where we operate. I want to recognize all of our employees for their incredible commitment and dedication during these difficult times. I'm extremely proud of Arcosa for continuing to support our customers and communities. This was an exceptional quarter for Arcosa across all metrics, including revenue, net income and adjusted EBITDA. Each of our business segments posted revenue growth. Our construction business outperformed our expectations showing organic growth and the benefit of the Cherry acquisition that closed earlier this year. Our shift to more stable and diversified in markets over the last 18 months has been an important factor in enabling this growth. Another major focus area has been our cash culture. In the second quarter, we generated $56 million of free cash flow versus the use of $5 million a year ago. Our free cash flow was nearly twice our net income. An impressive result as we are successfully reducing the working capital requirements of our business and focusing on margin expansion. During the quarter, we use cash flow to pay down debt. And at the end of June, we had a relatively modest net debt of $108 million or less than half our trailing 12 months EBITDA. We have kept our leverage low while investing $314…

Scott Beasley

Management

Thank you, Antonio, and good morning, everyone. I'll start on slide 10 and review our segment results from the second quarter. Construction Products revenue grew 28% to $148 million and adjusted EBITDA increased 46% to $38.6 million. The quarters almost $39 million of EBITDA was the highest in the segment’s history. Segment EBITDA margins of 26.0% improved more than 300 basis points from last year’s second quarter. Several factors contributed to our increase in EBITDA. The Cherry acquisition again exceeded our expectations, and we remain very positive on the growth prospects of recycled aggregates. Houston market fundamentals remain strong in the first half of the year. And although Houston construction activity may suffer from COVID-related uncertainty in the next few quarters, the fundamentals remain strong. In our legacy natural aggregates business where our largest geographic presence is in North and Central Texas, we had a very strong quarter volumes were up significantly and we were able to improve margins through operating efficiencies, lower maintenance costs and benefits from lower fuel costs. We've had price increases in line with the industry averages across our footprint. Although our mix shift made our overall ASP lower than last year’s second quarter. Weakness in oil and gas markets hurt volumes and our natural aggregates business. But our exposure to oil and gas has declined and represents a smaller portion of our segment revenue. Finally, revenue from our shoring product line declined almost 30% as customers reduced their capital expenditures. We were able to adjust our cost structure accordingly and minimize the impact on margins. We have seen a small uptick in inquiry levels for shoring products in the last few months as customers have displayed improved confidence in their outlook. Overall, our Construction Products team did an exceptional job executing in the quarter to…

Antonio Carrillo

Management

Thank you, Scott. As Scott detailed, our business performs well during the quarter, and we remain focused on executing our long-term strategy. Slide 19 is a reminder of our vision that we introduced to the investment community when we became an independent public company in the fall of 2018. And our long-term vision for Arcosa remains the same. Shifting to Slide 20, as we discussed last quarter, the COVID-19 impacts on our near-term outlook vary across our portfolio, end markets in Construction Products and Energy Equipment, representing almost 75% of second quarter EBITDA have remained healthy, while Transportation Products has experienced significant decline in new order activity. Construction activity proved to be resilient in our key states during the second quarter, helping to drive rate performance in the segment. Demand in the early part of the third quarter has been very similar -- at very similar levels. Construction Product owners have shorter lead times than other businesses. But we are watching several key indicators in our geographies to understand future demand string. In the short-term, we're focused on state's fiscal health, learning activity and the progress of federal elections, including the upcoming expiration of the Highway Funding Bill and the potential stimulus measures. In our Energy Equipment, we are less exposed to COVID related uncertainty, as our wind towers and utility structure backlogs provide good near-term visibility and many of our market drivers remain intact. Throughout this period, demand and bidding in our utility structure business has remained strong. With wind towers the current backlog supports our 2020 production plans. And we're working with customers on 2021 orders. In our Storage Tank business, we saw some slowdown during the early stages of the pandemic, however we have continued to navigate the spirit, we see a more positive tone emerging from…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] And we'll take our first question from Ian Zaffino with Oppenheimer. Please go ahead.

Ian Zaffino

Analyst

Hi, great. Thank you very much. Can you guys just talk a little bit more on the barge side on the order front? Nobody really seen from the end markets, not necessarily the barge utilization. But if you dig deeper into what the barges are transporting. Can you maybe give us like a sense of like what's going on in those markets or what your outlook for those markets are? And then how that would then translate into higher utilization, which would then mean higher orders?

Antonio Carrillo

Management

Sure. Thank you, Ian. Let me start with the dry cargo market. As we've mentioned, we are seeing improved inquiries over the last few weeks from customers. And the biggest thing there, as always is the agricultural markets. And I think the biggest thing to be watching is the relationship with China and the exports to China. I think if you look at the crop for this year, and some of the expectations for exports, they're looking more promising. And there's at least some good news coming out of the Chinese market in terms of pricing for corn, et cetera, that I think paints a relatively better picture in terms of demand for dry cargo barges. The other piece that's important in dry cargo is that the replacement cycle should be really strong. We've had several years of very, very low demand for dry cargo barges. We were just getting started. Most of the growth this quarter came from our dry cargo production which is ramping up very nicely. So, I think between some relatively positive news on the agricultural side and the replacement cycle, we should see -- and COVID is going to create some uncertainty in the short-term, but we should see a relatively solid demand for dry cargo barges over the several years. On the liquid side some refined products and petrochemicals and on derivatives are the ones that have been very slow over the last few months. Petrochemical capacities low refineries have slowed down significantly as people don't use their car, where planes are not flying, et cetera, et cetera. And that creates short-term, a low utilization rates on the barges, which is a significant problem because that the people don't require as many barges, the river system becomes more efficient, et cetera, et cetera. So in the short-term, I think, until we have more clarity on how this virus gets controlled and people start doing their normal life, it's going to be choppy I think in terms of utilization rates. On the other hand, we have talked about some specific projects that we are continuing to work on. And these projects could be large, and they are very specific. These would not be things that are currently being moved on the river system, but this is additional things that can be moved and require new barges. So, we've been working with potential customers to attack these projects. And that's why we've said that our goal in the short-term is to stay very flexible so that we can ramp our production up or down depending on how these projects materialize and be able to have flexibility because these projects take time to materialize.

Ian Zaffino

Analyst

Can you give us some specific examples? What Cherry has brought to you? And how you've seen them materialize in this quarter? Maybe an example or two would be helpful. Thanks.

Antonio Carrillo

Management

Absolutely. So several things on Cherry. I think the first thing that Cherry brought up and when you're buying a company is sometimes hard to predict how that's going to work out, but I think that Cherry brought in an incredible culture with them, an incredible team. They are extremely, extremely result driven and extremely result full. And they bought a really solid list of projects that they were actually executing on before we bought them. So I think the first thing that they brought their cultural and they brought their team, which is incredible. In terms of things that they're doing, let me give you a couple of examples. So, they have a list of additional properties that they wanted to buy so that we could expand some of their areas of influence around Houston. And we're working on that. We've already bought a couple of properties and we have several more in the pipeline. Another good example is if you look at the Houston market, there is really very little rock most of it is sand and Cherry bought mostly sand. But especially during the rainy season, there's a significant demand for rock. And Cherry was not able to get rock they get they, they get some large rocks from the recycled concrete. But now we're working with our Mexico team. And we are starting to import rock from Mexico to Houston area and that's a few examples of the projects that they had in their pipeline that I think would be Arcosa footprint, we are able to enhance. And then you have the additional growth that we expect from Cherry. Right now we are finalizing the integration and getting to learn the business. But the goal is to replicate the business model in other geographies and that's what we're going to take it in the next stage. And recycled aggregate for sure is something that we did not do before. We are learning the business. It is a very appealing business and there's opportunities, I think in several geographies in the country, and especially in places where we are already operating. And it fits very well with our ESG strategy. So I think all in all the Cherry acquisition has been very, very successful.

Ian Zaffino

Analyst

Alright, thank you very much. Appreciate the color.

Operator

Operator

And will take our next question from Brent Thielman with D.A. Davidson. Please go ahead.

Brent Thielman

Analyst · D.A. Davidson. Please go ahead.

Great, thank you. Good morning.

Antonio Carrillo

Management

Good morning.

Scott Beasley

Management

Good morning, Brent.

Brent Thielman

Analyst · D.A. Davidson. Please go ahead.

Antonio, on Construction Products, and it looks like Cherry in your natural aggregates business performed really well. Can you help us understand the headwinds phased from the specialty business? Is that tied to specific markets? Or was it because it wasn't considered essential? And do you see those headwinds potentially fading there in the second half?

Antonio Carrillo

Management

Sure. So, Construction, and then we’ve aggregates, we have specialty and we have Shoring. And within aggregates we have Cherry with recycled. But on the specialty side, there were a couple of headwinds. First, it's a more national footprint that we have. And there's regions where we have a specific a shutdown. So we had to shut down a small facility in the northwest, in Washington State. And then we have a facility in California where we have to also slow down significantly, and not only us, but especially our customers, if you think about it. The facility we shut down was not because we were forced to shut down, but because our customers were shut down. So, demand locally was not working well and we have to slowdown and several projects got delayed. So, that's one specific issue. On the Shoring, Scott mentioned in his comments. It's also a national footprint even though we were only producing in one state. And we are starting now to produce in Mexico. We're shifting some production to Mexico as we have significant demand and couldn't keep up with demand in the first quarter. But our main production is in Michigan, and we ship nationally. And something happened to us in terms of CapEx, as Scott mentioned. So some of our customers see this as CapEx. And like everyone's slowed down CapEx in the in the second quarter as they're trying to predict what's going to happen. But as Scott mentioned, also as the months have gone by, we're starting to see more positive tone from our customers and things are starting to improve. So the view that we have from both specialty materials and Shoring in May was very big. And as the quarter progressed, light started turning on and it started looking better. I think every time we talk to our team, it sounds better. So, we are we're optimistic about the future of both businesses.

Brent Thielman

Analyst · D.A. Davidson. Please go ahead.

Yes. So, it sounds like on specialty it's more demand disruption versus demand distraction. Is that…

Antonio Carrillo

Management

That's correct.

Brent Thielman

Analyst · D.A. Davidson. Please go ahead.

Okay. And then on barge, I mean, this year looks pretty solid with the book of business that you have on hand. Antonio, what point do you begin to get concerned about next year for the barge business and have to kind of consider taking those cost actions if you need to see another quarter or two orders like this before we can really say next year is going to be a tough year?

Antonio Carrillo

Management

Yes. I'm absolutely convinced that the fundamentals of the business are really strong and that the replacement cycle and the drivers of the business and our position in the industry, the dynamics and our position, our competitive position are great. So, I think more than a concern, I will tell you my focus right now is going to be on making sure that we can stay very flexible, to be able to allow those fundamentals of the industry to overcome the short-term COVID related disruptions. And that's why we've said we're going to be watching our footprint and our manufacturing capacity. And if needed, we're going to slowdown to be able to match the short-term demand, but we want to keep our flexibility, so we can ramp-up as soon as it picks back-up. So, what happened to us if you remember a year and a half ago, as demand picked-up, we didn't have the capacity to reopen as fast as we should have opened. And that's why we decided to open a third plant. And this time what I want to do is keep the flexibility I don't want to sell barges that the market doesn't need. But I want to keep the flexibility to be able to ramp-up production fast up and down. And that means, of course watching our cost structure and flexing our cost structure down as we've done in the past, as we know this business, we're very good at it. We never lose money when things go down. And our idea is to continue to focus on profitability and maintaining our margins while staying flexible.

Brent Thielman

Analyst · D.A. Davidson. Please go ahead.

Okay, thank you for taking my questions. I appreciate it.

Operator

Operator

And we'll take our next question from Julio Romero with the Sidoti and Company. Please go ahead.

Julio Romero

Analyst · the Sidoti and Company. Please go ahead.

Hey, good morning. Hope you all are well. Just wanted to ask about that trench shoring business, what are you hearing from your equipment rental company, customers regarding, their willingness to deploy capital for CapEx, has some of the uncertainty that maybe felt earlier in the year subsided or are they kind of waiting for maybe the other shoe to drop there?

Antonio Carrillo

Management

Julio, thank you for the question. Yes, the end of the March, April, is basically all CapEx close. And I say as Scott mentioned in his remarks, and we are seeing more positive tone from our customers in terms of capital deployment. And we have started to receive more orders in the last few months. And we see a more positive tone from them and from our team, in terms of market conditions. So, I think we are optimistic about that business and the fundamentals. And hopefully this is just a short-term blip in terms of order slowdown. But we are seeing improved trends over the last few months.

Julio Romero

Analyst · the Sidoti and Company. Please go ahead.

That’s helpful. And what does your crystal ball tell you about maybe lower Texas feels from the infrastructure budget, in terms of like the cadence of when that is? I mean, does that impact you, when could that begin to affect you?

Scott Beasley

Management

Yeah, sure Julio, this is Scott. I think, most of our biggest data is Texas and that’s the one we watch most closely. Texas feels pretty solid for the third quarter and then probably into the fourth quarter. We’ve had several positive quarters of laying data. The DoT has come out and said that they reiterated their $77 billion 10-year plan. So, overall we’re optimistic that the fundamentals are still strong in Texas. There have been some headwinds in the recent months with sales tax revenue being down, April and May were the worst months but then it bounced back up in June. So, overall, we’re positive in Texas and our other core states although, we will watch those tax receipts closely and look at the impact that they have on state budget.

Julio Romero

Analyst · the Sidoti and Company. Please go ahead.

Got it, appreciate the color there. And then just a last one is on the Energy Equipment side. You are investing in transportation and distribution. You seem pretty optimistic about the outlook there. I was just hoping if you can talk about the communications infrastructure opportunities both in the near term and long term? Thank you.

Antonio Carrillo

Management

Sure. So, if you think about the structures utility, traffic structures, telecom structures, at the end of the day, similar engineering, similar manufacturing footprint. And they fit very well into that part of the process which is the manufacturing that we have in the expertise and engineering. So, it’s a similar product. The end markets are very different and driven by different dynamics. But all these markets we like their dynamics. The telecom market that you referenced, the company we bought does not do this micro sales or very small sales that are attached to buildings or traffic lights or things like that. This company makes larger structures both rails and poles, many rails [ph]. And this sales structure support the micro structures around in the city. So, you need these big towers to support the smaller ones. And with the 5G rollout, we think there’s going to be significant opportunity to grow this company, not only where it is right now. But we have manufacturing capabilities across the country and the idea is to be able to use our manufacturing capabilities to replicate this business across the U.S. Same thing with the traffic structures, with the size in project structures that we bought in Florida. And this is the business that’s driven by infrastructure spending. And right now we have a great position in Florida. But we want to replicate the business across the U.S. and that’s one of our biggest projects also. And finally, we bought a small concrete pole manufacturing. This is cast concrete small poles. And the idea is that, we want to be able to approach our customers and offer them not only steel structures but concrete structures also. So, the idea is to widen our portfolio approach for our customers and also widen our markets. So that as we said, try to reduce the cyclicality of the business and don’t depend on the single market even though we are extremely bullish on the utility market.

Operator

Operator

And we’ll go next to Stefanos Crist with CJS Securities. Please go ahead.

Stefanos Crist

Analyst

Good morning. Thanks for taking our questions.

Antonio Carrillo

Management

Good morning.

Stefanos Crist

Analyst

I’d like to start discussing M&A, your strong liquidity and net debt as well. Is the strategy to focus on smaller tuck-ins due to just the market uncertainty or are you still willing to make a bigger acquisition if you find the right opportunity?

Antonio Carrillo

Management

So, I think Stefanos, let’s say both are open opportunities for us. On the small side, we continue to see small opportunities on the aggregate side and specialty materials that I think could be tuck-ins and things that we can easily do and opportunities that we have our pipeline of. And so those are relatively seeing there and there they complement those very, very well. On the larger side, if you think, if you look our numbers, I think what you're seeing from the companies we would like to buy, they're probably doing well, if they're doing -- if they're serving similar markets. So, we are not looking right now, we don't see that as an area of or as a time to buy a very, very cheap things that are out there. I don't think there are any cheap things out there, or things that we would be interested in. We will continue to look at our long-term strategy and find opportunities of things that we like that are extremely valuable, and that we will be willing to pay. At the same time as we've talked about there's some uncertainty in the future. So we are going to be very disciplined. We're going to be watching our fundamentals. We're going to be watching our markets to make sure that we are on solid ground before we commit to anything. We're always evaluating opportunities, we have a pipeline of opportunities. And I think we are willing to do both small and larger things. But at the same time, very disciplined around what we're looking for, the price we would pay. And remembering our goal, our goal is that we're going to try to reduce the cyclicality and complexity and increase our return on invested capital. So we will keep those things as major focus for our decision making.

Stefanos Crist

Analyst

That makes sense. Thank you. And in terms of barge, with utilization rates lower, are you seeing any market shifts, maybe your typical customers are deciding to rent versus buy just to save on CapEx as well?

Antonio Carrillo

Management

I think there's shifts in what we're seeing from some of our customers, I think how they approach the market. Some of our customers are finding different approach to market conditions that for some people work better for others and could generate the additional barge demand for some customers that traditionally have not bought from us. So, I think this market of course, what's important for our customers is their balance sheet. Some are very well capitalized, some are less well capitalized. So we're going to be watching for that. I think, again, this -- I think this is a very short-term thing that we have to navigate through. But the fundamental of the barge market is just incredible, it's a really, really great market for us. And I think it's going to recover. When we talk to the other people that are in the business. The faster the adjustments happen in the oil market, the faster it comes back. So, right now it is a demand issue. So the demand is the problem, it is not a supply issue in terms of barges. And demand needs to come back for this to get solves. So hopefully that happens soon and we are seeing different approach to the market. To your question, we are seeing different approaches to these conditions from different customers.

Stefanos Crist

Analyst

Got it. Okay. Thank you very much.

Operator

Operator

We'll take our next question from Bascome Majors with Susquehanna. Please go ahead.

Bascome Majors

Analyst · Susquehanna. Please go ahead.

Yes, Scott. Clearly, there's some uncertainty to say the least around where revenues and EBITDA will fall in the second half. But we have seen a number of cyclical companies maybe be a little more willing to frame their free cash flow expectations just given the inherent buffers of working capital and discretionary CapEx there. Any thoughts from you guys on either the range of or even just the floor to what you think you can deliver on free cash flow this year despite the challenges would be helpful as we think about where the business itself is headed? Thanks.

Scott Beasley

Management

Sure Bascome. This is Scott. Let me give you some color free cash flow. So we generated $76 million of free cash flow in the first half, which was a really strong first half performance. In the third quarter, we expect another strong free cash flow performance. The fundamentals of the business remain strong. We expect to continue to make working capital improvements. The fourth quarter is, when we expect a bit of a drag on free cash flow, because we have some projects that we've already gotten paid for, so advanced billings that we received in the fourth quarter of last year, it will have some contracts where we won't collect them until Q1, so we would expect to drag in Q4. But when you put it all together, we expect free cash flow to be right around if not higher than 100% of our net income for the year. That follows a year last year, when we had more than 200% free cash flow conversion. So put last year with this year, two really strong years of free cash flow and this year individually, we expect great free cash flow.

Bascome Majors

Analyst · Susquehanna. Please go ahead.

I appreciate that detail there. The last one for me. I mean, we've talked about M&A in the positioning a couple different ways. And, Antonio, I appreciate the long-term slide you frame kind of how far you've come in the last two years. We look at the next two or three years for Arcos, where do you seek to opportunistically focus the portfolio by maybe monetizing some businesses that are becoming less core overtime?

Antonio Carrillo

Management

Absolutely. Thank you Bascome. So a couple of things there. First, as you saw in that slide, for the first time this was our largest EBITDA contributor is construction materials this quarter and even in the first half of the year. So I think that tells you a lot about what we were trying to say about a couple of years ago how we were going to reposition the business. And I would say that this trend of growing the construction and utility structure business products around it will continue to be the trend that you should see. And at the same time as we see opportunities there. If you ask me a couple of years from now, should we see some changes in the portfolio divestitures? I think you should expect us to be working on them. At the same time, with conditions as they are, it's not easy to find buyers of things that we can find a better place where they fit better. So, I think you should see us and expect us to be working on them. I hope conditions are such that we can execute well, I think it's just as important to buy these things for our investor community just as important to tell them we're buying these things as to give you the sign that we are really simplifying the portfolio and taking the steps to become a simpler story. So, it's our priority. We have it. We are clear on it. And just to give you a little more color on Scott's thoughts on working capital and cash flow for the second half, just I want to complement his thoughts. The fourth quarter looks to be a drag. And if you ask me in the first quarter and the second quarter look to be a drag. And, with this COVID uncertainty, things are clouded in the short-term because we don't know how things are happening. So, at least we're in the beginning of the third quarter, we have time to adjust. And we'll be adjusting with our businesses to try to make the fourth quarter not blind. But right now it looks like that, but we're going to be working, we still have time.

Bascome Majors

Analyst · Susquehanna. Please go ahead.

Thank you both. I really appreciate it.

Operator

Operator

And it does appear that there are no further questions at this time. And I'll turn the call back over to you Ms. Peck for any closing remarks.

Gail Peck

Management

Thank you, Ashley. Thank you, everyone for joining us today. We look forward to speaking with you again next quarter.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And this does conclude your program. Thank you for your participation. You may disconnect at any time.