Antonio Carrillo
Management
Sure. Thank you, Ian. Let me start with the dry cargo market. As we've mentioned, we are seeing improved inquiries over the last few weeks from customers. And the biggest thing there, as always is the agricultural markets. And I think the biggest thing to be watching is the relationship with China and the exports to China. I think if you look at the crop for this year, and some of the expectations for exports, they're looking more promising. And there's at least some good news coming out of the Chinese market in terms of pricing for corn, et cetera, that I think paints a relatively better picture in terms of demand for dry cargo barges. The other piece that's important in dry cargo is that the replacement cycle should be really strong. We've had several years of very, very low demand for dry cargo barges. We were just getting started. Most of the growth this quarter came from our dry cargo production which is ramping up very nicely. So, I think between some relatively positive news on the agricultural side and the replacement cycle, we should see -- and COVID is going to create some uncertainty in the short-term, but we should see a relatively solid demand for dry cargo barges over the several years. On the liquid side some refined products and petrochemicals and on derivatives are the ones that have been very slow over the last few months. Petrochemical capacities low refineries have slowed down significantly as people don't use their car, where planes are not flying, et cetera, et cetera. And that creates short-term, a low utilization rates on the barges, which is a significant problem because that the people don't require as many barges, the river system becomes more efficient, et cetera, et cetera. So in the short-term, I think, until we have more clarity on how this virus gets controlled and people start doing their normal life, it's going to be choppy I think in terms of utilization rates. On the other hand, we have talked about some specific projects that we are continuing to work on. And these projects could be large, and they are very specific. These would not be things that are currently being moved on the river system, but this is additional things that can be moved and require new barges. So, we've been working with potential customers to attack these projects. And that's why we've said that our goal in the short-term is to stay very flexible so that we can ramp our production up or down depending on how these projects materialize and be able to have flexibility because these projects take time to materialize.