Robert Scott Turicchi
Management
Well, I think on the Media side, we have 3 areas from an M&A perspective in which to enhance and further scale that business. One is to acquire additional like assets in tech and games domestically or U.S. and Canada, where we already have strong leadership position. The second, though, would be to acquire assets in those spaces in foreign jurisdictions. And we, in fact, have been looking outside of the United States. And then the third piece would be to add additional verticals beyond tech and games, staying consistent with the philosophy that we want content-driven digital media where it is leading to some form of a buy or purchase decision. So there's actually a lot of room to go within the Digital Media space given that we have these 3 different angles. In terms of the longer-term margin profile, you're correct, we're running ahead of budget this year in terms of both the aggregate EBITDA, as well as the margin. I think we said so far throughout this year that it would be unlikely that the Media business would produce a 30% EBITDA margin for the full fiscal year. I think that assumption is likely to be challenged, given that we've had strong margins that are up about 15 percentage points versus the comparable quarter in the prior year, and that's true for both Q1 and Q2. The answer to your question is in part a function of how large the business gets; and what is the mix of those incremental revenues beyond the current book of business? Because there's a much wider range of margins in the Digital Media business than there exists in the Cloud business. When we get into a cloud space, the ones that we are in, it is not uncommon, as we start to get to scale, that incremental revenue flows through initially at, say, 30% to EBITDA, and then once we start to get to even modest scale, 40%, and then ultimately, 50%. And there's not a lot of variation in the types of customers on the margin for producing that incremental flow-through to EBITDA. The Media business, though, however, has a very wide range of marginal margins. They can be as low as 10% to as high as in excess of 90%. So the mix of your revenues, and certainly your incremental revenues on top of the base, will influence where your margin ultimately settles at. I'm a believer that as this business scales and adds the next 100-and-some million dollars of revenue, clearly, we'll be in the 30%-plus EBITDA range. I'd like to believe that will be trending towards the middle and maybe even the higher end of that range. But I would just caveat, it is going to be very sensitive to the mix of that incremental hundred or so million dollars of revenue.