Yeah, for sure, Steve. So I'd like you to think about digital services in two ways. For large enterprise clients they look at work streams like invoice processing, invoice accuracy, the types of things that are both ingested via scanning and things that are printed, PDFs and their formats, the from, the to, and all of the handling of all of that. Robotic process automation and all those types of advancements in that space is just helping clients be much more efficient. And that's kind of more of a large play, a larger play in that space. You're seeing in the graphic communications and in the marketing space, Chief Marketing Officers are trying to understand the efficacy of both print and digital ads. That's why you see barcodes embedded on so many index cards or on various different offerings and physical items or watermark. They're trying to understand what the effectiveness is on a printed page, on a digital page, on programs overall, and make better decisions in that space. These types of things are the types of current today's issues, the advancements in AI in some of the areas that both Steve talked to and Xavier talked to earlier. Gen AI is dependent upon good data and good data comes from documents, the repositories of these documents have to be scanned, have to be indexed, have to be redacted. You need to understand chain of custody across these items. So the whole digitization of a document, the origination of the documents, the ability to redact, the ability to secure all these types of digital services and they are combined. It is no -- it is very much a kind of a multi prong approach because there is no one particular area. That's why people say Omni commerce, omnichannel, that's what they mean, it's coming both physical, both digital, but the processes are the same. So we're seeing these types of things emerge in digital services and the IP services around it is managed cloud, just like our Managed Print, manage IT security, and those things. And we believe that that's an SMB opportunity for us more than the large market, because that's where we see the market need. That's where it's very highly fragmented, it's very geographically put in place really like NFL cities, if you will, in the U.S. We have an opportunity to do some consolidation in that area, and extend our services through our brand and through our distribution easily without having to invest a lot more in that space. And so that's how we're balancing those issues.