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Q2 2023 Earnings Call· Tue, Jul 25, 2023

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Operator

Operator

Welcome to the Xerox Holdings Corporation Second Quarter 2023 Earnings Release Conference Call. After the presentation, there will be a question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] At this time, I'd like to turn the meeting over to Mr. David Beckel, Vice President and Head of Investor Relations. Sir, the floor is yours.

David Beckel

Analyst

Good morning, everyone. I'm David Beckel, Vice President of Investor Relations at Xerox Holdings Corporation. Welcome to the Xerox Holdings Corporation second quarter 2023 earnings release conference call hosted by Steve Bandrowczak, Chief Executive Officer. He is joined by Xavier Heiss, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. At the request of Xerox Holdings Corporation, today's conference call is being recorded. Other recording and/or rebroadcasting of this call are prohibited without the expressed permission of Xerox. During this call, Xerox executives will refer to slides that are available on the web at www.xerox.com/investor, and will make comments that contain forward-looking statements, which by their nature address matters that are in the future and are uncertain. Actual future financial results may be materially different than those expressed herein. This time, I'd like to turn the meeting over to Mr. Bandrowczak.

Steve Bandrowczak

Analyst

Good morning, and thank you for joining our Q2 2023 earnings call. I'm pleased to report another quarter of year-over-year growth in revenue, profits, profit margins and cash flow. Consistent with recent quarters, these positive results reflect our team's balanced execution, amid a dynamic macroeconomic backdrop. Summarizing results for the quarter, revenue of $1.75 billion grew 0.5% in constant currency and 0.4% in actual currency. Adjusted EPS was $0.44, $0.31 higher year-over-year. Free cash flow was $88 million compared to negative $98 million in the prior year quarter and adjusted operating margin of 6.1% was higher year-over-year by 410 basis points. This quarter and throughout this past year, demand for our products and services has remained resilient, particularly for our value-added print and digital services and among our mid-market clients. Our ability to consistently deliver growth in revenue, profits and cash flow through a challenging operating environment is the result of an intense focus on three strategic priorities; client success, profitability and shareholder returns. A benefit of a renewed focus on client success beyond the positive impact on revenue and profits is an employee base that genuinely seeks to empower clients and partners with essential products and services for today's workforce. At Xerox, we see the evolving hybrid workplace as an opportunity to improve client's productivity and employee satisfaction levels with solutions such as secure cloud print for a distributed workforce, automated document and information workflows and streamline multi-channel customer communications to name a few. A thriving hybrid workplace requires advanced technology solutions from trusted technology providers like Xerox. This quarter, Xerox was recognized by Quocirca as a leader in Cloud Print Services, positioned as a leader for both strategic vision and depth of service. We also advanced our leadership position in Quocirca's assessment of leaders in the Print Security…

Xavier Heiss

Analyst

Thank you, Steve and good morning, everyone. As Steve mentioned, we delivered another quarter of growth in revenue and profits, driven by resilient demand for our equipment and services, normalizing supply chain conditions on benefits from price increases and ongoing cost efficiencies efforts. In Q2, revenue was slightly higher year-over-year in actual and constant currency. Growth was driven by equipment sales, once again reflecting a stable demand environment, improved product supply and favorable mix. Growth from equipment sales was offset by a decline in post-sales revenue, which was mainly driven by non-contractual items. Turning to profitability. We delivered a third consecutive quarter of year-over-year improvement in growth on operating profit margins due to higher equipment sales and favorable equipment mix, price increases enacted in prior periods, lower logistic cost and ongoing cost reduction efforts. Gross margin improved 210 basis points over the prior year quarter, mainly driven by improved product mix, lower supply chain related costs, specifically container transportation costs and benefit associated with recent price and cost efficiency actions. These benefits were partially offset by unfavorable currency effect and around 50 basis points of impact from lower Fuji royalties. Q1 2023 was the last quarter with recognized revenue from Fuji royalties. Adjusted operating margin of 6.1% increased 410 basis points year-over-year driven by 450 basis points of improvement from ongoing operating efficiencies and pricing actions, and 300 basis points from supply chain related improvement, including a more favorable product mix. Partially offsetting these benefits were unfavorable effect from currency, lower Fuji royalty income and higher year-over-year bad debt on compensation expenses. Adjusted other expenses net were $9 million higher year-over-year due to a $16 million benefit associated with the defined contribution pension plan refund in the prior year quarter, partially offset by lower interest expense. Adjusted tax rate was…

Operator

Operator

Certainly, one moment. And our first question comes from the line of Ananda Baruah from Loop Capital. Your question, please.

Ananda Baruah

Analyst

Yeah. Hey, guys. Good morning and thanks for taking the question. I guess two, if I could. The first one, certainly, for Steven, could be -- for Xavier as well. You guys continue to sort of put up resilient top line, as you've talked about, Steve. And just looks like it's lining up to be, call it, the fourth year in a row where you're sort of at $7 billion in revenue. And I was wondering, if there's anything sort of structural about the market that you think has shifted. You've talked about a lot of what Xerox has done trying to address post-COVID world and some of the newer tech trends. But I guess I'd love your vigor picture thoughts on what previously been for many years of declining market. And now for the last three years has been flattish or at least the company's performance has been flattish and it looks like we're looking at like a fourth straight year of $7 billion in revenue? And then I have a quick follow-up, too. Thanks.

Steve Bandrowczak

Analyst

Yeah, Ananda. Great. So on the macro side, we have shifted significantly, as I said, over the last year towards client success. And really, what that means for us is thinking about the hybrid work place and a distributed workforce, how do we drive productivity and how do we drive efficiencies and help our clients in the macro headwinds that they're seeing. So if you think about headwinds on inflation, headwinds on use of capital, our solutions and what we're driving is to help them solve their solutions. And that's a strategic shift for us and bundling around our equipment, our software, our cloud solutions and so forth. Second is really driving digital services. As we start to see more and more companies think about their own digital transformation, digital journeys, we have a tremendous position to go play there around securing data, unlocking value inside of that data. And so it's a very strategic shift for us. And so while we are focusing on obviously the macro trends of what's happening in the print industry, more importantly, the opportunity and the areas that we can play. I talked about trust and I talked about how our clients depend on us to help drive their future workplace. And we've been very, very successful in driving digital services and expanding inside of existing accounts. Xavier?

Xavier Heiss

Analyst

Yeah, Ananda. Just to complete from the revenue point of view, what we see is the equipment revenue remains strong. And the demand for our products, specifically A3, remain very strong, which drive revenue. We push some price increases as well. So this is supporting revenue. The other positive news is on post sales. Post sales on the contracted revenue, our customers signed contract for usually a length of three years there. So signings on the resilience we see in this post sales for this team is quite strong currently here. This is the reason why we are quite a bit with the current trajectory and we have upgraded or improved our guidance because we believe we will be closer to a flat situation compared to the low-single digit decline we had as a range before.

Ananda Baruah

Analyst

And you guys -- you mentioned on the call, I guess, in the prepared remarks a few moments ago, Steve, sort of like a strategy shift towards services. And I think you used the term reinvention as well. So is that incremental to what you last showed at the Analyst Day? Is there something that's sort of a put right now, maybe since John’s (ph) comment in this incremental for the go-forward that you'll be talking to us about.

Steve Bandrowczak

Analyst

Yeah. So we'll be talking about in the future, but we've talked about very specific vertical solutions and horizontal solutions in our existing customer base. And we gave examples of working in universities in education, working in the medical industry, working in the law firms. And so we have been digging deep into where are the areas that we have products and services, software and solutions think about security, think about the world of AI and how do we continuously evolve in that space and drive value for our clients, and we really focus on client success. When I talked about freeing up both financial and management capacity, that's exactly what we're doing, really focusing on specific how do we drive client success with products and services. You will see a lot more from that from us in the future.

Ananda Baruah

Analyst

All right. That's great. I have one quick last one, just a clarification. When you mentioned Steve to open up the prepared remarks, the resiliency in sort of in customer demand you also then mentioned small, medium business. Is it small, medium business more resilient than enterprise or are you just -- was it just pointing out that also small medium business is resilient?

Steve Bandrowczak

Analyst

It’s balanced, but we’re finding stronger resilience there in SMB today while we’re seeing some of the larger enterprises pull back a little bit, not change, but maybe defer some of the installs and defer some of the installations. But in general, SMB was strong from us.

Ananda Baruah

Analyst

That’s great. Got it. Thanks so much.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. One moment for our next question. And our next question comes from the line of Erik Woodring from Morgan Stanley. Your question, please.

Maya Neuman

Analyst

Hi. Thank you. This is Maya on for Eric. Steve, if we just take a step back from the quarter and think bigger picture a little bit, we're largely past that normalization of return to office and hybrid work, so meaning that the activity we're seeing today outside of the cycle related dynamics is something of the new normal. So I know you touched on this a little bit earlier, but how should we think about kind of normalized revenue growth, margins and business mix going forward? And is there a path to revenue growth? And if so, when should we expect that? And do you believe that normalized gross and operating margins should be in a post-COVID world? I know this is kind of the message you provided at you’re -- at an Investor Day, but since there's been so much change in the last 12 months, it'd be helpful for us to understand how you think about some of these metrics over a multiyear period? And then I have a follow-up. Thank you.

Steve Bandrowczak

Analyst

Great. Thank you for the questions. So let me start with the macro and then have Xavier comment on some more specifics. So if you take a step back, I really believe today the workforce and the hybrid workplace is really trying to continuously drive productivity and transformation. And we're seeing CEOs and companies really trying to figure out what this new normal looks like and how do we drive more productivity in that space. And it's not one size fits all. And so what we've been doing is really focusing and working on how do we drive the efficiency in the workplace of the future. That's something we have in our DNA, we've done for the last 50 years and we have a right to play there as we start to see digital transformation in large enterprises in SMB and where are the areas in products and services that we can grow. So I don't think the chapter has been written in terms of what the new normal is. We're still evolving, and I think it will continue to evolve as we try to drive more productivity and we try to drive more value inside of this new hybrid workplace, number one. Number two, you really think about next generation technology, whether it's AI or ChatGPT or the future of robotics or augmented reality, the reality, the underpinning of that is significant amount of data, and we play really well in that data, securing it, having the ability to be able to orchestrate it. And so when you start to hear things like how do companies drive more productivity with these new tools, whether it's AI, whether it's RPA with reality, we are playing really well. I'm really trusted in helping our clients there. So we see significant growth and significant opportunities in the hybrid workplace as companies are really trying to figure out their new norm and driving productivity going forward. Xavier?

Xavier Heiss

Analyst

Yeah. To give color on this, specifically for 2023, what we are expecting here is that still a strong mix. And you have noticed it in quarter one, quarter two, quarter four last year as well. We have been able to mix up by having product, higher margin product, higher revenue product with some price increases that are supported on growth from an activity point of view, from market share, but also from a revenue point of view, that drove the revenue growth that we are seeing here. At the same time, as I mentioned it earlier on, the post sales with the stream is still strong here, and we are delivering and supporting essential services for our customers. And we see that in the contractual trends that we have signing are strong and as well revenue rate that we are observing with clients is also show the high attachment rate on the retention of our revenue. Finally, from a margin point of view, as we mentioned it on the -- you have seen this in the guidance, we are upgrading the guidance for this year from 5% to 5.5% to 5.5% to 6% there. It just shows the confidence that we have in the activity I've just described on the ability of the team to deliver operational efficiency and drive the mixed up.

Maya Neuman

Analyst

Great. Thank you. And then just a follow-up to that, actually. So you had previously guided kind of 2Q operating margins to high 4%, low 5% but obviously came in above 6%. Where do the most significant upside come from the quarter? And why is that not sustainable as we look into the back half of the year, given your guidance kind of implies operating margins contract in the second half despite cost cuts?

Xavier Heiss

Analyst

Yeah. So I will comment it in two parts. So if you look at the first half, we have had during the first half, some what I call one-off items that were supporting the margin. Specifically, we had had the benefit from Fuji Xerox royalty, which is roughly 50 basis point benefit. It was only in quarter one. It won't repeat anymore here. At the same time, we have had some bad debt release or bad debt good news, but during the first quarter, low bad debt in the second quarter. So this is also items that we are not expecting to repeat. But at the same time, we are still confident that the reason why we upgraded the guidance. We are still confident in maintaining this overall margin for the second half of the year in a range, which is around 5.5%, potentially above this one. So that's the reason why we improved the guidance and we are still focused on driving both operational efficiencies, but also ensuring that the revenue mix and margin mix come at the expected level, so we can drive overall operating margin up on free cash flow.

Maya Neuman

Analyst

Great. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. One moment for our next question. And our next question comes from the line of Samik Chatterjee from JPMorgan. Your question, please.

Samik Chatterjee

Analyst

Hi. Thanks for taking my questions. I guess for the first one, I'm just curious how you're thinking about seasonality through the remaining two quarters of the year. I know you mentioned seasonality to be lower for 3Q, but more curious if you can dive into that for equipment sale, the $420 million of revenue you quoted in this quarter, is that sort of -- is there a tailwind there from backlog digestion? And should we expect normal seasonality even in rare in relation to equipment sales for the rest of the year or should we be sort of looking at it ex-backlog, maybe any insights on what that underlying demand is looking for equipment sales rate to the revenue profile you have now, which might be benefiting from backlog? I have a follow-up, please.

Xavier Heiss

Analyst

Yeah. Hi, Samik. So seasonality, as we mentioned it in the comments, we are expecting Q3 as usual, that means this is not a surprise, as usual, to be a little bit softer than Q4. As you know, Q4 is a very strong quarter. This is usually where we have the also higher mix of margin of equipment and the larger deals being signed towards the end of the year. So we are expecting it to be slightly below. But if you look at the equipment revenue growth and even on the post-sale side, we are not expecting to have like a significant decline. If you remember, last year in Q3, this is where we started to have supplies coming back on track. So the compare versus Q3 will be very different compared to the compare versus Q1 and Q2 here. From a margin point of view, as I commented earlier on, we are still -- if I remove the one-off there, we are still expecting to get the margin in the range of 5.5% to 6% for the full year. which imply potentially a softer quarter three, but a very strong Q4 as we have always delivered. I will comment lastly on the normalizing on where we are today. Backlog, as we mentioned it, we will not report any more on backlog because we are now back to normal from a backlog point of view. So there is a little bit of crushing backlog. Some of it was the end of quarter two, but we do not expect backlog being a key contributor in Q3 and Q4. And finally, just from, I'll call that, the usual seasonality of revenue. Just to summarize Q3, a little bit softer than Q4.

Samik Chatterjee

Analyst

Got it. And then Xavier, on the cash flow, you've done, I think, around $150 million of free cash flow in the first half, if I'm calculating it right and that leaves about $450 million to be done in the second half. Can you just walk us through sort of the half over half, how you're thinking about working capital finance receivables sort of what plays into that significant improvement into the second half?

Xavier Heiss

Analyst

Yeah. So this is also aligned with the traditional seasonality we had, if you remember last year, we -- last year and the year before, a very similar pattern. The second half is much stronger. It's specifically related to items like working capital and payables. This quarter, we have a year-over-year impact of payables simply because last year, we have higher purchase some of the supply chain where, I would say, released, which make us having higher purchase in Q2 for revenue recognition in quarter three here. So working capital will normalize. We will have some, I would say, tailwind coming from accounts payable. Inventory you noticed it this quarter was also a tailwind with a reduction of close to $80 million. We will see this being driven here. So that's the operational part. The second part is on finance receivable. As expected on the strategy is working, we are continuing our forward flow program with HPS. No surprises here. This is planning as expected and we've got the full benefit of now having close to 40%, it was 40% this quarter, 40% of our origination being funded by HPS, which support the free cash flow and is helping the balance sheet. As you have noticed it as well, just my last comment, we paid down the secured debt of roughly $80 million. So you look at the leverage ratio of the company, it has improved significantly compared to last year.

Samik Chatterjee

Analyst

Okay. Got it. Thank you. Thanks for taking the questions.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. One moment for our next question. And our next question comes from the line of Shannon Cross from Credit Suisse. Your question, please.

Shannon Cross

Analyst

Thank you very much. I just have a couple. The first is, I'm curious, and I'm not sure what you can talk about, but what the benefit or impact could be from the banning of the 9-star products into the U.S.? I know you we're sourcing some things from Lexmark. So I'm just curious, is this potentially a positive since people won't be able to get stuff in or is it just sort of a non-starter? Thank you.

Steve Bandrowczak

Analyst

Yes, Shannon. I think a couple of things. First of all, we're constantly looking at our supply chain and making sure we're adhering to all regulatory and government requirements around the world and 9-star was no different than that. And we immediately looked at and make sure that we continue to be a good corporate citizen around the world. From a materiality standpoint, it wasn't material for us in the quarter and going forward, we should be just fine.

Shannon Cross

Analyst

Okay. Thanks. And then I'm curious, how do you think about your cash balance? And then use of cash, you have about, I think, $560 million some odd worth of cash right now. You used to run at a higher level of company smaller. Wondering what you think your cash balance needs to be. And then as you have cash come in, in the second half of the year, how should we think about usage there versus the debt repayments, which clearly you've done a good job of reducing your debt load, but you still have about $1 billion over the next couple of years. Thank you.

Xavier Heiss

Analyst

Yeah, Shannon. Good question there. So we are good with the cash balance, that means this level of $500 million or above is the level where we should be. So we manage we have seasonality within the quarter of cash here, but this is the right level for us. Regarding use of cash, as you know it, our policy has not changed, shareholder distribution of at least 50% of free cash flow. We are mainly focused on paying down or paying the dividend. So this is roughly $180 million of dividend. And there will be, I would say, on comment later on when we will generate $600 million of free cash flow, how we'll have the use of cash. Just would like to comment on one topic. We do not have board authorization on share repurchase. So we are not planning to do share repurchase and any cash that we can use or we are willing to use there will be to support the business development.

Shannon Cross

Analyst

So does that mean you're looking more at M&A or just internal, like ramping up CapEx?

Xavier Heiss

Analyst

We are looking at any opportunity. It could be organic, it could be inorganic. M&A is part of the list.

Shannon Cross

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And this does conclude today's question-and-answer session. I'd now like to hand the program back to Steve Bandrowczak for any further remarks.

Steve Bandrowczak

Analyst

Thank you for listening to our earnings conference call this morning. We continue to face dynamic operating environment as workplace behavior and technology needs evolve to accommodate a rapidly changing hybrid work environment. In the past year, we have bolstered our operating and financial model solidifying a foundation from which we can grow as we help clients solve their most pressing workplace challenges. I thank you each for joining our Q2 earnings call. Have a wonderful day.

Operator

Operator

Thank you, ladies and gentlemen, for your participation in today's conference. This does conclude the program. You may now disconnect. Good day.