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Q2 2015 Earnings Call· Fri, Jul 24, 2015

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Operator

Operator

Good morning, and welcome to the Xerox Corporation Second Quarter 2015 Earnings Release Conference Call hosted by Ursula Burns, Chairman of the Board and Chief Executive Officer. She is joined by Kathy Mikells, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. During this call, Xerox executives will refer to slides that are available on the web at www.xerox.com/investor. At the request of Xerox Corporation, today's conference call is being recorded. Other recording and/or rebroadcasting of this call are prohibited without the expressed permission of Xerox. After the presentation, there will be a question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] During this conference call, Xerox executives will make comments that contain forward-looking statements, which, by their nature, address matters that are in the future and are uncertain. Actual future financial results may be materially different than those expressed herein. At this time, I would like to turn the meeting over to, Ms. Burns. Ms. Burns, you may begin.

Ursula Burns

Analyst

Good morning and thanks for joining our call. Today, we reported the second quarter results that are largely in line with our guidance. During the call, we will update you on our strategy, provide detail on the second quarter, and share the areas where we are intensifying our focus throughout the balance of the year. Let’s start with our strategy. Our direction has been consistent. We are making progress in some areas, but we know we can and should do better in other areas. Our direction is unchanged. We are making several shifts in the way that we execute against it. First, we have taken steps to create much greater focus in our Services business. We completed the divestiture of our ITO business enabling a clear focus on the BPO and document outsourcing businesses. Last Friday, we announced a major change in our government healthcare strategy. We are focused on ensuring the success of the existing health enterprise implementations by limiting new pursuits with this platform. Second, we are modifying our acquisition expectations for the year setting an achievable spend level given our progress to date. Third, the Services leadership team is in place with our last industry leader appointed in April. Our capabilities are fully staffed and sales resources are in place to market our full portfolio of services. Collectively, these actions result in a sharpened focus on achieving organic improvements in our Services business. We have also announced changes to our 2015 capital allocation plan. For the full year, we will increase our share repurchase by $300 million to $1.3 billion and we will return $300 million to shareholders in dividends unchanged. In summary, we have the right business strategy, we are reprioritizing investments, and accelerating our restructuring actions and services to improve revenue and margin. While we…

Kathy Mikells

Analyst

Thanks, Ursula, and good morning everyone. Our bottom line results were within our guidance for the quarter with Services profit in line, Tech profits a little light on modestly softer revenue which was offset by a bit better non-operating expenses. I will cover the segments in more detail in a minute, but first I will run through total company results for the second quarter. Total revenue in the quarter was down 7% at actual currency and 3% at constant currency. Growth in services was more than offset by declines in Document Technology which accelerated modestly driven by continued weakness in developing market and higher declines in supply revenue. The negative currency impact of 4 points on our top line was consistent with our expectations and with first quarter results. Gross margin of 31.1% was down 100 basis points year-over-year, driven by lower technology gross margin as well as a greater mix of services which carries a lower margin. RD&E was slightly lower year-over-year, and SAG in absolute dollar terms was down 6% helped by currency. However, as a percent of revenue, SAG was up 30 basis points year-over-year to 19.7% as productivity benefits were more than offset by investments and services. As a result, our second quarter operating margin decreased 160 basis points year-over-year and operating profit declined 22%. About a quarter of the operating profit decline was driven by currency and developing markets with the remainder of the decline coming from the cross sells that I just discussed. Moving down the income statement, adjusted other net expense was $26 million lower year-over-year driven by lower restructuring cost. Equity income was $29 million in the quarter, down $4 million year-over-year driven by the continued impact of negative translation currency. Our second quarter adjusted tax rate of 25.8% was in the…

Ursula Burns

Analyst

Thanks, Kathy. And for the second quarter, as Kathy said, we largely met expectations. We are committed to delivering our guidance and we are doing everything that we can to overachieve. In Services, we are accelerating cost reduction actions and re-prioritizing investments in the second half to position the business for stronger financial performance while investing in the parts of the business that are critical to drive productivity and future growth. In Document Technology, we are focused on leading in the most attractive segments of the market and on delivering strong financial performance. So in short, it’s all about focus at Xerox. In addition to leading in the attractive document market, we are focused on making portfolio moves that strengthen our business financially and strategically. We are focused on optimizing our new Services operating model [indiscernible] productivity improvements across the business, and we are focused on driving revenue and profit growth in every line of business. And most importantly, we are focused on our people and on our clients. We remain committed to our business strategy and we are bullish about the markets that we serve and opportunities that lie ahead. Thank you, and now let me turn it over to Leslie.

Leslie Varon

Analyst

Thanks, Ursula. Joining Ursula and Kathy today is Bob Zapfel, Head of our Services business. Let me point out that we have several supplemental slides at the end of our deck. They provide more financial detail to support today’s presentation and complement our prepared remarks. For the Q&A, I would ask participants to limit follow-on and multipart questions so we can get to everyone. At the end of our Q&A session, I’ll turn it back to Ursula for closing comments. Karen, you can please now open the line for questions.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from the line of George Tong from Piper Jaffray.

George Tong

Analyst

Hi, thanks. Good morning. First question for Kathy, in your margin performance guidance for Services that’s been updated, can you detail what you are assuming for margin performance outside of government healthcare and what investments into government healthcare you are assuming in the second half?

Kathy Mikells

Analyst

Sure. If you look at what I discussed in terms of the overall progression in Services margin in the second half, it’s very clear that outside of the health enterprise accounts what we are expecting is ramping productivity between the third and the fourth quarter to basically accelerate our margin improvement over the second half. The other thing that’s really important to recall is that document outsourcing is a meaningful part of our Services business and as a percent of our Services business got larger when we divested the ITO business, and that has a natural seasonal pattern in the second half of the year where margins decline in the third quarter and then accelerate sequentially in the fourth quarter. So those are some of the important puts and takes in terms of the acceleration in the back half of the year.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Shannon Cross from Cross Research.

Shannon Cross

Analyst

Thank you very much. I had a couple of Services questions as well. First, can you talk a bit more about details on the restructuring program, and specifically what I’m wondering is, what has changed in how you’re looking at the restructuring from last quarter to this quarter?

Robert Zapfel

Analyst

Shannon, it’s Bob, so a couple of things. First is, as it was mentioned, heavily focused on Services rather than Doc Tech where we get kind of visibly more yield for restructuring dollars spent. And then inside our Services restructuring, a combination of what I would call G&A part of – now that we’ve got our arms around managing the set of people and our capabilities organization, but a combination of that and then not needing to backfill and being able to take out a higher proportion of our delivery resources as a result of automation investments that we’ve been making during the year and as a result of really having improved the service level quality where we are confident. We were trying to be a little bit careful to not go too quickly relative to optimizing our cost base without being sure that we could maintain and continue to increase delivery quality. So those would be the main summary points.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question – I’m sorry.

Leslie Varon

Analyst

I was just asking Shannon if she had a follow-up because she mentioned she had a couple of questions.

Operator

Operator

Shannon, your line is open.

Shannon Cross

Analyst

Okay. Thank you. My only follow-up is just, can you talk a little bit about – you started to retrain and realign the sales force on the Services side. So I’m curious as to what you’re seeing in terms of any benefit from that or how that’s progressing?

Robert Zapfel

Analyst

Yes. We’ve largely completed the addition of resources in our sales teams and we’ve got good sequential pipeline improvement. So besides the fact that as it was mentioned before our signings were strong in the quarter, we’ve seen our pipeline build out and we are also seeing which was part of the design of the new model going to market by industry, we are seeing a visible increase in the number of opportunities where we’re bringing more than one offering to the customer so that it is leveraging Xerox services broadly rather than an isolated offering by itself. So those would be the primary points.

Shannon Cross

Analyst

Thank you.

Leslie Varon

Analyst

Karen, I think we can move on to the next question.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Keith Bachman from BMO Capital Markets.

Keith Bachman

Analyst

Hi. Thank you. I have two as well. On the M&A pipeline, I understand completely that you want to focus on righting the ship. But if I think about over the last year and the year and a half, it seems like Xerox hasn’t been able to hit, identify targets associated with M&A in the services area, and in contrast it seems like I get an email a week from Accenture about adding deals or completing deals, I’m wondering is this more Xerox threshold, is it the pipeline, is it supply demand and balance, what has been the challenge associated with adding services revenue through inorganic means and then I have a follow-up?

Ursula Burns

Analyst

Okay, Keith. I’m going to start with, the way we have historically talked about this, we tended to say in up to numbers. So as an example when we started the year we said M&A up to $900 million and in fact we knew that was kind of quite a big number for us, especially relative to what we had typically been doing in the past, and so we also said at the same time that we expect that we might role some that over until next year. You know I'd note in the recent guidance we just gave we are giving a range because it seems like when we said up to, if we didn't hit the top end of that number, you know people really deemed us for falling short, when M&A is a little difficult to call. If I go to what we need to do to actually get more done, I’d say the core thing we need to do is improve our hit rate, and the changes that we’re looking to make is to pivot more of our activity to a proactive approach rather than just looking at deals that are being brokered in the market. That isn't something that happens overnight; I mentioned that we hired a new leader recently in order to head up that business. And in the meantime, we’re also clearly looking to hold the bar a little higher as we focus over the next couple of quarters on really getting our organic improvements in services accelerating.

Robert Zapfel

Analyst

If I can just add something, we are clearly part of four models to sell-out capabilities and broaden our reach particularly internationally, we need M&A and so we're not pleased with the fact that we are at the low end of our performance ranges here, but I also think it’s a kind of a fortuitous time in the back half of the year to be focused on organic growth we have all of the infrastructure in place, we’ve hired the capability leaders, we have the sales force full, we have the line of business guys all in place, we have a good start to operating model and focus here is an important thing. I don't want anyone to believe that we're walking away from M&A that we're not going to do it, but based on the reality of where we are I think we're going to be in this $100 million to $400 million range, we're going to spend the last half of the year trying to get that done; and then making sure that we have a foundation, a strong foundation, a kind of unshakable foundation in organic side of the business. So, I know it is not what we want to end up, but it is where we are.

Keith Bachman

Analyst

Well thank you. That’s certainly the right thing to do, just try to focus on the execution. I think totally appropriate. And my follow-up question though is on the printing side of the business. It does seem like there are some challenges there and I was wondering if you could add color in particular the supply side seems a bit weaker than I would have anticipated and it seems to be a lingering problem and is that just demand or is there a share or is there, how is the technology business seem to be facing incremental challenges, particularly on supplies? Thank you.

Kathy Mikells

Analyst

And so specifically on supplies, I’m going to first kind of refer back to my commentary when I talked about developing markets and the fact that we don't adjust currency out, right, so when we look at these numbers and publish these numbers it has developing markets at actual currency. If you make that adjustment in tag for supply, it actually moves the number by about two points and that will be the case for the last couple of quarters that currencies in developing markets have really been under pressure. So, I think if you look at it that way, I would say overall supply ebb and flow a little bit, but we don't see any kind of monumental shifts going on, here we think the business is pretty stable.

Keith Bachman

Analyst

Okay thank you.

Robert Zapfel

Analyst

One other thing to add Keith if I can is that our supplies mix is a little different than what some of our peers or competitors are as well, so smaller portion of our business, most of our supplies have bundled in contracts and what we’re talking about here is supplies outside of that and it’s a lower portion by and large of our business that's one. And the other thing about supplies is that Kathy talked about the currency impact, but it is, is an extra outside of the currency. DMO is just a basket of uncertainty there, we managed very tightly, we try to get inventory levels lined, everything has to be managed pretty tightly by us there, so we don't get too far over skies. I think fundamentally, we don't see massive changes in the marketplace, particularly when you look at currency, but we do pay a lot of attention to it and also remember that's a small part of a business than some of our competitors.

Keith Bachman

Analyst

Alright, fair enough. I will see the forum, many thanks.

Kathy Mikells

Analyst

Thanks Keith.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Jim Suva from Citigroup.

Jim Suva

Analyst

Thank you very much. My question is regarding the turnaround of operating services, if I do the math correctly, unless I'm mistaking, it looks like calendar Q4 will have operating margins 10% or above, is my math right and if so can you help us with your confidence and conviction there because it was literally at your Investor Day where Bob literally, we asked you, does he bluff these numbers, he has been at the company now for nine months and looked at the contracts and kicked the tires and toured, and he said yes and then we had a takedown as this year has progressed in this area, so you help us understand and do you actually have the visibility to kind of put your name behind it all as it has been a challenging area? And then my follow-up question is more or probably for Kathy on the cash flow side, varying cash flow held up despite all the stumblings and challenges they actually had this year in the takedown of lots of different things from revenues to margins to M&A, now that not coming through. So, are there things that are helping out cash flow one time this year, whether it is pension or reversals or something that we should be aware that are not sustainable. And the reason why as you know, numbers have perpetually been coming down lower, but cash flow has held up, I just want to know if that cash flow is still protected as we look forward long term in the model? Thank you.

Robert Zapfel

Analyst

So Jim it’s about our start. So, first your math is accurate. So that for us to deliver the commitments we've made we would expect to drive a two-digit number in the fourth quarter and I guess what I would go back to is we’ve got a broad set of actions that drive that, you know if you will, hockey stick of improvement they start with the productivity that we talked about earlier and restructuring and taking costs out of our delivery model in cost base, it also includes a lower level of losses at our, in our health enterprise for portfolio, we think we've got sufficient contingencies for the unpredictability that we would see their, but that is part of our design model. I talked about the restructuring beyond delivery. We've got continued strong profitability in our document outsourcing business and it's got a seasonality that's heavier in the second half in terms of profit yield than the first half and then we are really committed to driving improved revenue dynamics. So we've been pretty visible all along that we thought that we would be at the lower end of the 2% to 4% revenue range, we've run at one for the first half of the year. So, mathematically we'd obviously have to get to 3% in the second half. We've got headwinds that dissipate relative to Texas and student loans. We've got New York ramping. On the other side of it, we will have less in the way of a inorganic revenue growth, but the combination of factors would get us to improve revenue dynamics in the second half and then that profit increase, it's part of for model. So, Kathy do you want to address cash flow or provide more color on.

Kathy Mikells

Analyst

I’ll go to cash flow. On cash flow, I’d start with as you mentioned, our cash flow has really been strong for the first half of the year and we’re very comfortable with where our guidance is. If you look at some of the charges that we've taken this year, especially in health enterprise, outside of the recent impairment charge which is obviously non-cash, some of those charges are just spread over the contract period where we are doing the health enterprise implementations and so while they have some case impact in the current year, the cash impact is really spread over a multiple year period. As we see declines in our technology business that actually throws off a reduction in working capital until we get a natural benefit there as well as actually just managing our working capital really well. And then finally the lower segment results are in part offset with a little lower restructuring. So as we look out to the back half based on where we’ve been tracking year-to-date this year, we feel very comfortable about where we are at in meeting our guidance.

Leslie Varon

Analyst

Operator, next question.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Bill Shope from Goldman Sachs.

Matt Cabral

Analyst

Yeah. Thank you. This is Matt Cabral in for Bill. So I wanted to better understand the thought process behind the announcement last week to limit health enterprise to the six states you currently have under contract. Was there anything that changed last quarter to necessitate this change? Are there any additional challenges that you see in ramping those four states that are up and running yet. There may be one is clear, three six once a ago and then related to that, just thinking to the longer term revenue target that you guys gave for the Services business, how much of that was predicated on extending health enterprise into additional states beyond the six that you currently have?

Ursula Burns

Analyst

So, the decision to – I’m going to have Bob follow-up from with the detail but I’m going to start out with the top level decision. And the decision that we announced last Friday was one that was a fundamental strategic change and the change was not that we didn’t want to be in health enterprise. We just want to get what we wanted – what we had underway kind of embedded down and tightly focused. We have big states, New York and California, New York just starting, California kind of in the middle of its journey and what I ask the Services team to do is to actually focus on those big implementations. The six states that we have, let’s make sure we get those settle down and then we’ll start to pursue to market again in the future if we think it’s actually useful. So I’m actually then have Bob get into the details of what we see in the states.

Robert Zapfel

Analyst

Yes. I would just add that as Ursula shared, we are really trying to focus on success in those existing clients and we’ve got the biggest states reference less to really deliver on long term to grow, the best way to grow is to have every customer completely satisfied. So we felt like our delivery capacity, you got to remember, New York really was just one at this point in the last conference call. And as we looked at how much capacity we had, the work to do in California, New York, Montana kind of across the remaining portfolio, we felt that we would be better served to center our resources there. There aren’t that many new bids that come up. It’s not something where all 50 states are rebidding every year. We have D.C. has a long shelf life, so we felt that we would be better both short term and long term to deliver world-class service and platforms with these accounts and then reassess after that’s done whether we would pursue more opportunities in the marketplace.

Ursula Burns

Analyst

In long term revenue dynamics, we do understand that we will have some backend pressure – backend meaning out year pressure. But as Bob said, the big thing here is that getting these six states done, we found historically that additional business comes if you operate really well. The quicker we can get them done and the quicker we can get them in line, I think that we can actually balance the revenue and the out years. That would be pressured if we didn’t actually pursue. So I don’t think that we’re going to have significant issues in the out years due to this decision.

Robert Zapfel

Analyst

And we’ll have – just to reinforce, we will have visible growth year next year as we ramp New York. So this portfolio of accounts is not going to be a low growth business for us in the short term, but it is a longer term question that we think we can manage.

Matt Cabral

Analyst

Thank you.

Leslie Varon

Analyst

Thanks, Matt. Karen, next question.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Brian Essex from Morgan Stanley.

Brian Essex

Analyst

Hi. Good morning and thank you for taking the question. I was wondering if you could start off, first of all, just revisiting the New York contract and maybe Bob you just mentioned and you’re ramping in the next year, obviously we’ve known for quite some time that you had this contract and you’ve been pre-spending so to speak. May be help me understand or help us understand how you expect the trajectory of ramp for the benefits of that contract to be realized by the company. And then with this kind of 18 month implementation timeline, when did that clock start ticking? Are you well ahead of that or how do we think about hitting those goalpost and leveraging. You are now I guess fundamentally complete software development program and how you can gain confidence so you can hit that timeframe.

Robert Zapfel

Analyst

Okay. Let me start, if I can Brian with kind of the delivery plan with New York, so there are two major release milepost, one is that the first quarter of next year and the second is that the fourth quarter of 2016, those set of deliverables along the way and we are on track across those deliverables. And the reason or might not the only reason but a reason that will after a good start as you referenced is we invested ahead. So we took the financial hit little bit in the fourth quarter and the first quarter from investing ahead. And our initial concept sessions with the state where we confirm designs have been very collaborative all going well. So at this point we are tracking well and as you may remember, New York is basically leveraging the platform that we’ve built for New Hampshire which was just certified by CMS back in June. So it’s now federally certified as a good platform. Relative to ramp on the reverence, Kathy do you want to cover that?

Kathy Mikells

Analyst

Sure. We just started the contract in the second quarter and so it’s going to be ramping through the rest of the year. We should exit the year with New York just under a point in terms of kind of revenue growth for overall services.

Brian Essex

Analyst

Okay, great. And then maybe if I could follow-on the obligatory question on the Florida Toll road contract, any update there in terms of progression or what you might expect in terms of the timeline?

Ursula Burns

Analyst

Yeah. I’m going to take this one. We don’t have an update is what we would expect and the one reason why is that we aren’t predicting this. We have won the bid and we’ve won the bid again. So we won the bid, it’s not a question, but we now have an additional protest that’s going to go through its cycle and when it’s done, we’ll get the business. We’re not going to predict when that protest is going to be done because every time we seem to say something it delays. So it’s going to impact.

Robert Zapfel

Analyst

But we do think this is the last remaining potential protestee. So hopefully this is the last part of the cycle.

Brian Essex

Analyst

Okay, very helpful.

Leslie Varon

Analyst

Thanks, Brian. Karen, next question.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Ananda Baruah from Brean Capital.

Ananda Baruah

Analyst

Hi. Thanks, guys. Good morning and thanks for taking the question. I have two if I could as well. I guess the first is there seem to be a revenue component to the second half guide down with BMO and there seems to be Services margin component as well, maybe they got down for the second half of the year was a couple of penny. So the question is, what kind of tail should we expect these to have, the two dynamics to have as we think about going into ’16. And to the extent that they do extend into ’16, could you make it up anywhere and if not should we feel when we start to think about ’16. I realize you’re not going to give guidance. But if there is sort of like a $0.02 tail, $0.02 impact of these things in the second half of the year, should we think about having some kind of impact as we move into next year, and then I have a follow-up. Thanks.

Kathy Mikells

Analyst

So the overall revenue dynamics that we are seeing really intact are stable and we have been expecting to see truck improve a little bit as a result of our execution in areas of growth. So while we are seeing good execution in a place like high end, it’s being offset by developing market and not stabilizing but continuing to be a little bit soft both from soft economies in developing markets and from currency. I mentioned the fact that we don’t adjust out developing markets for constant currency basis and so that kind of heightened the decline for us a little bit. On Services, really the only change there is the fact that we are a little light on M&A and so that will make us a tad bit lighter in terms of just trying to accelerate growth in the back half. But it’s important to understand the same way that the Services segment margin kind of ramps over the course of the back half. We have a very similar dynamic going on in revenue in large part because we’re going to start to lack some big contract boxes. So you recall the loss of the Texas Medicaid contract, if we look at first half over second half that’s worse about 2 points to us. So between that and New York we have quite good I say organic revenue growth dynamics naturally from half to half and throughout the second half of the year.

Robert Zapfel

Analyst

Ananda, I would just say I know that we are guiding to the lower end of the range but I want to make sure that we understand that we are still in the range and we’re going to try to do everything we can to overachieve that. But it’s important – we are trying to hold ourselves to the commitment in the range that we have in both Services margin and in total EPS.

Ananda Baruah

Analyst

And then hopefully the new restructuring actions, as the new wins that you have in search is going to actually scale up into the cost structure and help the revenue and the margins there as well. So those are both good tick up. And I guess as my follow-up just touching based on M&A again, as it was touched on earlier in the Q&A spend, maybe the third year where you’ve been a little bit on the softer side of the target. My question is, at what point you guys start get a little vary of what’s the longer term top line impact of these to the model, and you guys thinking of it in that context yet.

Kathy Mikells

Analyst

So I think the things that we are doing to I’d say change our approach and execution in M&A or what we need to do that actually get this engine moving for us more consistently and that’s really pivoting from being opportunistic largely a pipeline of brokers deals to M&A and business development activity. That’s led by our strategic planning and that strategic planning really yielding a team focused on where we have gaps in our portfolio and a proactive M&A activity where we proactively build our pipeline. That shift in overall approach, not a shift in strategy for what we are trying to accomplish through M&A but shift in the execution approach should help us to improve our hit rate. And if I had to kind of point to one soft under valley in M&A, it’s that with a large part of our pipeline coming through broker deals. Our hit rate is not as high as we would desire it to be. So we are taking actions in order to change our overall approach so that we can be both very focused, right, and improve our hit rate.

Leslie Varon

Analyst

Okay. Thank you, Karen. Next question.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Tien-tsin Huang from JPMorgan.

Tien-tsin Huang

Analyst

Great. Thanks. Good morning. I’ll ask a derivate M&A question. I’m curious as all these healthcare consolidation especially on the healthcare payers basis, does that have any impact to Xerox in your overall healthcare business.

Robert Zapfel

Analyst

We are fortunate that we are providers to all of the players that are participating in the consolidation dynamics and my business experience is if you’ve got the acquiree as a client, that’s not a good place to be. When you have both the acquirer and the acquiree, you’re better positioned. So I would expect and we don’t do the exact same work with each side if you will and some of the big visibly announced planned mergers. So I think for us, there is always the chance that you’re going to get – you’re going to be part of the synergy savings play and help those lead customers achieve their synergy savings. We think we were well positioned to participate in that because we are on both sides of visible transactions. We have very strong client referenceability and we tend to see the clients wanting to consolidate and leverage providers where they would be more likely even use us more broadly.

Tien-tsin Huang

Analyst

Got it. Makes sense, Bob.

Leslie Varon

Analyst

Thank you.

Tien-tsin Huang

Analyst

Can I ask?

Leslie Varon

Analyst

Certainly, one more question.

Tien-tsin Huang

Analyst

I’m sorry, just a quick one. Just on the signings, thanks for letting me sneak one more in, just on the services signings front, I caught the Florida comment, obviously New York coming in, I’m curious any other larger deals that could be building up in the pipeline because systematically it sounds like bigger deals are coming back for the sector including within BPO, I’m curious if you are seeing that as well? Thank you, I’ll drop off.

Robert Zapfel

Analyst

We’re not really seeing an increase in what I would call the big multi or a $100 million or $100 million plus deals, but what we are seeing is we are seeing visible improvement in our pipeline, including the progression, so not just the – you know how many deals do we have to pursue, but where are they in the sales stage that we need to then leverage to drive improved signings in the second half of the year. That’s our plan.

Kathy Mikells

Analyst

Thank you. Next question Karen.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Kulbinder Garcha from Credit Suisse.

Kulbinder Garcha

Analyst

Hi, both of my questions have been asked and maybe I missed...

Kathy Mikells

Analyst

Can you speak up a little bit Kulbinder.

Kulbinder Garcha

Analyst

Most of my questions have been asked, I just wanted to ask, have you given a number for the restructuring amount this year and what the normal level of restructuring going forward the company and then also what tax ratio you would be assuming? Thanks.

Kathy Mikells

Analyst

So, I think, I am going to try and repeat the question just because I’m not positive that I heard you, was your first question just asking about the level of restructuring generally?

Kulbinder Garcha

Analyst

Correct.

Kathy Mikells

Analyst

Yes. So, we have tended to do, I will call it about $0.02 a quarter or between $0.01 and $0.02 a quarter that ebbs and flows in different quarters as we look at and assess our business. We specifically guided to doing about $0.01 in the third quarter, you know and we will assess the fourth quarter as we get closer, but we do have an expectation that in the back half of the year generally our restructuring is going to be a little bit lighter. And I think your second question was overall kind of tax rate. We haven’t changed our tax rate guidance. We expect to be between 25% and 27%.

Leslie Varon

Analyst

Thank you. I think we have time just for one last question.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our final question for today comes from the line of Jamie Friedman from Susquehanna.

Jamie Friedman

Analyst

Hi, thanks for sneaking me in lastly. There is a reference in the press release and sort of deep down there, but with regard to the new Hampshire contract and it states in there that Medicaid, I would just paraphrase them, Medicaid certified your retroactively to the April 2013 implementation date, I guess more generally, I was just – what the status of New Hampshire is, I understand it is launched and live, but what does that certification mean and is there any financial implication to the fact that it’s retroactive?

Robert Zapfel

Analyst

Yes. There really aren’t financial implications to the retro activity, but the certification really means for the other states that as they look at and work with us they [indiscernible] that platform not just that we are selling with its features, but that the feds and CMS agree that that’s you know designed to meet the federal targets. Very good thing. A very good thing.

Jamie Friedman

Analyst

That sounds like a positive. Thank you.

Leslie Varon

Analyst

Great. Thanks, Jamie. So that’s all the time we have for questions today. So let’s wrap up.

Ursula Burns

Analyst

So, as I said earlier, the second quarter was in-line, but we expect more and we are looking to deliver more. We are making choices that increase our short-term performance while retaining the ability to achieve our long-term goals. We are focused on delivering better results and improving the performance of our business and I thank you all for joining us on the call.

Leslie Varon

Analyst

Thanks, Ursula. That concludes our call today. If you have any further questions, please contact me or any member of our investor relations team.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for your participation in today’s conference. This does conclude the program and you may now disconnect. Everyone have a good day.