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Q1 2014 Earnings Call· Tue, Apr 22, 2014

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Operator

Operator

Good morning, and welcome to the Xerox Corporation First Quarter 2014 Earnings Release Conference Call hosted by Ursula Burns, Chairman of the Board and Chief Executive Officer. She is joined by Kathy Michaels, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. During this call, Xerox executives will refer to slides that are available on the web at www.xerox.com/investor. At the request of Xerox Corporation, today's conference call is being recorded. Other recording and/or rebroadcasting of this call are prohibited without the express permission of Xerox. After the presentation there will be a question-and-answer session. (Operator Instructions) During this conference call, Xerox executives will make comments that contain forward-looking statements which by their nature address matters that are in the future and are uncertain. Actual future financial results may be materially different than those expressed herein. At this time, I would like to turn the meeting over to Ms. Burns. Ms. Burns, you may begin.

Ursula Burns

Management

Good morning and thanks for joining our call. Today we're reporting our first quarter 2014 earnings that reflect the benefits of our diversified portfolio and improved performance across a number of areas including ITO, Document Technology and Document Outsourcing. And within BPO, our commercial business, especially commercial healthcare showed good results. We did have challenges in the quarter especially in the area of government healthcare, which I'll get to in a few minutes. So let's begin with a review of our 2014 priorities. The first priority is growing revenue. Today, Services represents 57% of our revenue and we continue to expect that number to grow to two-thirds by 2017. The shift over time will drive improved revenue growth. To realize this growth we need to strengthen and differentiate our portfolio. We participate in some very attractive segments of the Services and Document Technology market. We are investing in these areas to increase the value we bring to our customers. I was very encouraged by what I heard from our customers a few weeks ago at our event called simple@work. Over 800 customers had to see all that Xerox have to offer. The innovation we're bringing and the commitment we have to solving their real-world business problems. What I heard from them was very positive. They are eager to understand all of our offerings and work more with Xerox. Another priority for us is to improve our cost structure and eliminate areas of underperformance. We've made great strides on this in Document Technology over the past few years and we're on the path to do the same for Services. Key to executing on these priorities is having a strong team to drive long-term results. We have a very seasoned team of executives with good subject matter expertise and we have brought…

Kathy Mikells

Management

Thanks, Ursula, and good morning, everyone. I'd like to start by walking through our earnings. Overall, we were pleased with our growth and operating profit and the related operating margin improvement in the quarter. Our core operating results came in a bit better than expected, driven by strong margin expansion in our Document Technology segment with the gain on the sale of real estate and lower tax rate also aiding our EPS beat versus guidance. We saw a positive results and trends in a number of areas within Services, but disappointing results within our government healthcare business cost us to miss our Services segment margin guidance for the quarter and adjust down our Services margin expectations for the year. I will walk through this in greater detail when we get to this segment review. Revenue in the quarter was down 2% at both actual and constant currency. This was better than the 4% constant currency revenue decline in Q4 as both Document Technology and Services revenue growth rate modestly improved. Gross margin of 30.2% was down 30 basis points year-over-year, as improvements in Document Technology was not enough to offset the incremental pressure on Services margin. Ongoing productivity initiatives, as well as lower pension expense, yielded significant improvements in both SAG and RD&E. As a result our operating margin expanded 110 basis points to 8.6% enabling operating profit growth of 13%. Moving down the income statement, adjusted of the net was $72 million, an increase of $59 million year-over-year. The drivers of the increase were higher OID and higher restructuring expense. OID was up year-over-year; the largest factor was that this year's gain of $30 million associated with the real estate sale was less than the prior-year's $37 million litigation reserve reduction. We've been working on the real estate sale…

Ursula Burns

Management

Well, thanks, Kathy. I want to get to your questions, so I'll quickly summarize our performance. First quarter performance reflects how our portfolio mix benefits our business. Our profits in Document Technology helped offset the shortfalls that we faced in government healthcare solutions. Our distribution and international expansion is extending our reach to more customers around the world and our strong cash flow follows us – allows us the flexibility to increase the value we bring to customers by investing in growing vertical markets. We are consistent in our priorities and our focus. We continue to strengthen our management team and we are executing on our five-plank strategy in Services, designed to promote revenue growth and improved margins. Despite the current pressure on government healthcare, we are optimistic about our healthcare business overall. There is good growth and profitability on the commercial side and room for improvement on the government side. We will capitalize on the most advantaged segments of the Document Technology business to maintain our leadership position in the industry and we'll continue to use our healthy cash flow to deliver shareholder value. Thank you. And now over to you, Jim.

Jim Lesko

Management

Thanks, Ursula. Also, let me point out that we have several supplemental slides at the end of our deck. They provide more financial detail to support today's presentation and complement our prepared remarks. For the Q&A, I ask participants to limit yourself to one follow-on question, so we can get to everyone. At the end of our Q&A session, I'll turn it back to Ursula for closing comments. Operator, please open the line for questions now.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. (Operator Instructions) Our first question comes from the line of Bill Shope from Goldman Sachs.

Bill Shope - Goldman Sachs

Analyst

Great. Thank you. So I have a question for Bob, whom I believe you said was on the call and perhaps Ursula as well. Given the challenges and the volatility we've see in the Services segment, particularly on the margin line, could you give us some early thoughts on the changes we might expect to see in the management of the business and how that'll hopefully produce more predictable results going forward?

Ursula Burns

Management

Why don't I start and then I'll turn it over to Bob. One of the important things that we did when we outlined the five-plank strategy was to do that from a broad-based leadership perspective so not only in Services, but including the leadership of the company, the CFO, head of strategy, and myself and obviously the head of Services. So the strategy that we have in place for margin improvement and revenue growth in Services is one that is in place and will continue. What we realized at the time though is that we needed to change our implementation process and cadence. And we did a couple of things there, one is a structural change inside which is not that much interest to the external world, but was really important to how we manage the business for transparency and clarity across many different lines of business and many different implementations. Second, and probably first for most, was we look at our leadership team and the capabilities that we had their and made sure that we understood if we had any gaps and if we had gaps we actually went out to fill them. Three areas we had to look at to improve and we did. One was we brought in a new head of our government healthcare business and he has brought in leaders underneath him to help assure that we can have this standard of limitation across the many different implementations that we have around the nation, both in MMIS and in our health information exchanges. The second thing that we did was we actually moved some technical resources that we have from our Technology business to our Services business to manage this platform, these platforms which are fairly complicated. And the third and most important that we started searching for and we brought on Board a new leader to actually implement the five-plank strategy, somebody who had experience in doing this type of management structure and process and that was Bob. So let me now turn it over to Bob now.

Bob Zapfel

Analyst

Thanks, Ursula. Bill, I would just add, I mean I had a good opportunity before coming and joining the Xerox team to really in the due diligence, understand the five-plank strategy, and it really matched my experience space in terms of how do you drive value for clients by transforming your delivery model? Services is at the core, a delivery business and we're still in the relatively early part of a journey, but a journey that is very well mapped out to drive best practices across our units through improved process standardization, automation to take work out of the workflow, and leveraging a global talent pool. So on your question of volatility, I really think as we mature our process, we will be even more predictable and it was part of what made Xerox and the Services business very attractive for me personally.

Bill Shope - Goldman Sachs

Analyst

Okay, thanks and congrats on the new role Bob. I guess outside of the Services segment, the Technology business, we're obviously seeing some positive surprises. Should we be –I understand that this quarter was sort of a bit of an outlier in terms of the margin strength, but should we be thinking about tech segment margins that are potentially sustainably above the range as you've given us in the past when we think about modeling longer-term?

Kathy Mikells

Management

So I'm not going to attempt to give 2015 guidance this early in 2014, but we're really pleased by the performance that we're seeing in the technology business. We had commented in the back half of last year that the Technology business had really stabilized and we have a great focus on driving profitability and margins in the Technology business with ongoing restructuring plans. So we feel good about the margin we produced this quarter. In my commentary about the second quarter, I clearly said, we expect continued strong margins, albeit expect it to come down a little bit from where we are in Q1. So overall we're really pleased. We expect will be up a little bit year-over-year in Technology margins and we expect continued good performance there.

Jim Lesko

Management

Thanks, Bill. If we could have our next question please?

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Shannon Cross from Cross Research.

Shannon Cross - Cross Research

Analyst

Thank you. I had another question on Services and maybe Bob wants to jump in, or Ursula. As you look at what's happened in Nevada and the challenges and that, has it changed your thoughts regarding government healthcare opportunities? And, sort of how do you view the landscape given what we've seen, not just at Xerox, but obviously other companies as well?

Ursula Burns

Management

I'll take it and Bob can follow up if there's a need for it. The government healthcare market is relatively large and it's definitely growing and the demographics are all tailwinds for it, all in the favor of government health. The majority of our healthcare business is not government healthcare, and the majority of that is not new platforms. And let me just break it into two parts so that we can parse out where we're having the challenges and what we're doing to fix it and therefore, I think it will help you understand why we're still so bullish on the market. MMIS is one large amount of engagement that we have. This is a long and historic business for ACS and now Xerox. It's Medicaid, it, we've been in it for many, many, many years and we've been managing on a platform that's an old platform. When the platform is in, it lasts for many years, 10, 15, years plus. And after you stand it up, the business on an ongoing basis is very predictable and very profitable, actually very profitable. Where we are today on Medicaid is that we are implementing a new set of platforms around the nation. The most famous one is California, which we are engaged in. We've been engaged in for many years, and California is going fairly well, and MMIS is actually going pretty well and we're now at the point where we're starting to lean out our implementation on California and drive it to increased profitability. MMIS, we also have some new implementations as well, and those new implementations, which some of them started late last year, a couple later this year, and one in 2015 and more to come, I'm sure, will be going through the same process of implementing…

Shannon Cross - Cross Research

Analyst

Great. Thank you. And then my next question is just for Kathy. You've maintained cash flow guidance but your lowering Services margin. So you can just give us some ideas of what's supporting that decision, where the incremental drivers of cash flow will come from?

Kathy Mikells

Management

Sure. And so I'll start with our first quarter cash flow was very strong performance, I feel good about where we're starting the year. If you look at, I'll call it overall income obviously bringing down Services margin that is that we partially offset by pretty strong margins that we're seeing within Document Technology. And even within Services, some of the reduction in overall income is coming from slower implementations, which are a non-cash change that we're taking. So overall, that plus top line is coming down a little bit more and that gives us another working capital benefit. I feel really comfortable we'll be able to hit our full year guidance. So we're not going to see nearly as much flow through to cash flow as you're seeing kind of from the income statement.

Jim Lesko

Management

Thanks, Shannon. We go to the next question, please.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Ben Reitzes from Barclays.

Ben Reitzes - Barclays

Analyst

Yes. Thanks a lot. Can you just talk also on cash flow about your efforts to smooth it out meaning make it less volatile? Obviously, the cash flow in the first quarter is a greater percentage of the total than usual, and what's going on there as well to make it smoother as we go throughout the quarters? And will you still have the big hockey stick in the fourth quarter, Kathy?

Kathy Mikells

Management

We will still have in the fourth quarter a big push, Ben. What you're seeing is largely payable timing being smoothed out during the course of the year. As I look at our first quarter, I feel really good about gains that we're making in terms of just receivable days outstanding, which I'm certainly expecting are going to hold for the year. So while you'll see sort of quarter-over-quarters, sort of year-over-year movements, that's going to just result in a little better cadence of overall cash flow during the course of the year. So we're still going to be, I'll call it seasonally peaking in 4Q, but yes less though than you've seen us in past years.

Ben Reitzes - Barclays

Analyst

Okay. And then I was just trying to quantify the hit from the new guidance on the EBIT line. I was thinking just backing into your Services guidance, it's like $60 million to $80 million and less operating profit in terms of when you add up the revenue, the lower revenue and the hit. And then I was wondering, is there an incremental restructuring on top of that which also accounts for the lower guidance for the year? I'm just trying to tally it up to get to the $0.06 or to the $0.03 or so in the range, and trying to get the EBIT numbers right. Is that about the way to think of it? And what is the incremental restructuring versus what you are thinking on previously before this call again?

Kathy Mikells

Management

Yes. And so we had given guidance on restructuring kind of roughly similar year-over-year, and that really hasn't changed. If you look overall in Services, we're taking the biggest hit in terms of operating earnings there as a result of the change in Services margins coming down. So we had initially said, we thought we'd see a 50-basis-point improvement. If you look at the range I'm now providing, in the middle of that range it would be down 20 basis points so call it a 70-basis-point change relative to where we started. That's worth about $80 million in terms of overall operating profit. Now I expect Document Technology is offsetting a little bit of that, right, because we clearly saw really a strong first quarter gains in terms of overall margin and I suggested I thought we'd be up modestly now in Doc Tech margin year-over-year. And so you're getting a little bit of an offset there. And then if you just kind of look to what other things changed to get us to a full year change, just call it down $0.03. We're doing a little bit more in share repurchases. So we started out a little stronger in terms of the timing of those share repurchases and we've upped our guidance now from $500 million to at least $700 million. And so we get a little bit of pickup there as well.

Ben Reitzes - Barclays

Analyst

Okay. Great. Thanks for that. That was good detail. I appreciate it.

Jim Lesko

Management

Thanks, Ben. If we could have the next question, please?

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And our next question comes from the line of Ananda Baruah from Brean Capital.

Ananda Baruah - Brean Capital

Analyst

Hi. Thanks, guys for taking the question. I guess, hey, the first one for me, Ursula, is and then maybe Kathy, just sort of could you walk through the contribution, or I guess the sort of different buckets of impact to the Services growth for the quarter, and what you think the underlying reason for this were and I have a follow-up. Thanks.

Kathy Mikells

Management

Okay. I'll go ahead and take that one. When I look at top line, we had initially targeted that we thought we'd be up 1% and we ended up being flat. There's really two different things contributing there. Slower ramp, so both within some of the healthcare implementations that are taking us a little longer so the new ones that we're standing up are having a slower ramp. And we saw a little bit of overall volume decline specifically within transportation, that's in part weather-related and also due to some slower ramp there. And then finally, I point to M&A. While we started out the year stronger than we did in 2013, we're still getting a relatively low contribution from M&A, less than half a point, and that's clearly below where we'd like to see it. So while I feel good about the pipeline, we're close on a couple of opportunities, I still feel good about our ability to get closer to spending $500 million for the year. It's coming on a little slower than we had hoped.

Ananda Baruah - Brean Capital

Analyst

Got it. Thanks. And then I – with regard to buyback, and congrats on raising the rates there, I guess what philosophically, how should we think about you executing the rest of the buyback through the year? I think the idea was to do it more ratably through the year this year, commensurate with cash flow, and you had a really strong Q1. So sort of how should we think about strategy on buyback?

Kathy Mikells

Management

Yes. I think that's exactly how you should continue to think about it. In contrast with last year where we really did essentially all of our share repurchases in the back half and very heavily weighted to the fourth quarter, we intend to continue to be in the markets throughout the year with our share repurchases.

Jim Lesko

Management

Thanks, Ananda. If we could have the next question, please?

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And our next question comes from the line of Keith Bachman from Bank of Montreal.

Keith Bachman - Bank of Montreal

Analyst

Hi, guys. I'm going to follow on Ananda's question on growth, and I was hoping for my first question, if you could talk about your confidence surrounding, Kathy, I think you said 3% revenue growth in Services? And while you're doing that, if you could address a few things; a) the bookings looks – was weak this quarter and I think you said it's going to be down on a tough compare. What does that suggest about the longer-term growth, b) pricing and then c) also ITO? I question the strength of ITO as we get to the back half of the year when you're really I think anticipating a pretty dramatic increase to mid-single digits in the broader Services category. So if you could perhaps just talk about your confidence interval on Services, and then I have a follow-up. Thank you.

Kathy Mikells

Management

Okay. So on Services, I feel really good about our renewal rate, 91%. We had a 92% renewal rate last year. In this quarter, our new business was a little softer than I had hoped, down 7% for the quarter. We had some things that's taking us a little longer to get the contract on. I feel pretty good about second quarter, clearly mentioned that we expect to see sequential improvement. We do have a tough compare. I mean in the second quarter of 2013, we were up total contract value 40% year-over-year, so it's a little bit of a tough compare from that perspective, but we should benefit from the strong signings that we saw last year. And so overall, I continue to feel really good about our organic growth and I like some of the places that we're seeing good organic growth. In the first quarter, we had double-digit growth in Europe overall within Services, and a piece of that was inorganic, but even our organic growth was actually up double digits, so very strong growth there as well. So we're feeling pretty good about the sequential improvement that we expect to see over the course of the year. And again, while I said M&A started out to a slow start, I feel good about the pipeline. We've closed on a couple of deals. And then finally, some of the other things we're doing, we mentioned in our Investor Day last November that we have a big push on improving our overall mix of business, and so you referenced ITO growth slowing, which has clearly been expected and anticipated by us. We're adding a number of sales people into the businesses where we have higher margins. We recently announced hiring another 60 sales people, so we're making investments to ensure that we get the organic growth we're expecting.

Keith Bachman - Bank of Montreal

Analyst

Okay. Thank you, Kathy. For my follow-up, just philosophically, Xerox has had a couple quarters of disappointment in Services and you're bringing in new leadership, exciting new leadership. How do investors take some comfort in the fact that Bob's having a new role, will be digging underneath the covers and will, could uncover some additional areas that he's not comfortable with, is the guidance the right guidance? In other words, you're asking Bob to step into a position and you're providing guidance at a position, which presumably he hasn't had a chance to really dig underneath the covers? Or is that an inaccurate perception and we should assume that Bob's kind of blast these numbers and this guidance?

Bob Zapfel

Analyst

Keith, this is Bob. So no, I have – I would say that in the first 22 days here, I have been through these numbers in excruciating detail. I've had a good chance to be out with clients and with the Xerox team as well. But no, I'm on the call and on the hook and I think from an investor standpoint, we appreciate that you're going to measure us based on our results. So – but this is not a – I'm not inheriting somebody else's call in terms of what we're committed to deliver. The 100,000 person Services team and I are on the line for what we've covered on the discussion today.

Kathy Mikells

Management

I'd be excited to add a little bit to that, Keith, when I look at the first quarter and kind of peel back the layers of our performance, the additional spending we had within government healthcare was truly what caused us to miss our guidance on Services segment margin for the first quarter. If I look across the business, I mean we had very good margin expansion in document outsourcing, we had margin expansion in ITO; we had margin expansion in commercial BPO. Obviously, our government transportation business is where the student loan pressure shows up. But overall, we're seeing exactly what we expected in terms of Services margin expansion outside of the government healthcare solutions group.

Ursula Burns

Management

It's an important point. I'll just ring in here, Bob has been here for 21 days, fortunately came on board right during the time that we have to actually look at our go-forward commitments and so he was actively involved there, one bringing up what Bob said and what Kathy said. If you look at the parts of the business excluding government healthcare or the part that we called that would come down in government transportation solutions group literally we're expanding margin in every other line of business. The biggest business that we have commercial BPO which is about 75% of our business, margins expanded to the point where we had planned them to. ITO they did as well, in document outsourcing, they did as well. So we do have an isolated issue here, it's a big one, one that we're in front of, but not one that causes us to adjust the rest of the business areas and the path that we had going forward there.

Keith Bachman - Bank of Montreal

Analyst

All right. Fair enough. Thanks, guys.

Ursula Burns

Management

You're welcome.

Jim Lesko

Management

Thanks, Keith. Pick up the next question please.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Jim Suva from Citi.

Jim Suva - Citi

Analyst

Hey. Thank you very much and I guess concluding comment is, hey, it could've been a lot worse. So anyway I guess you could laugh about that a little bit. But when I think about it, is it really that Xerox miss estimated the amount of person, bodies and hours it needed to be on this to get this state healthcare exchange up and running? Is it the state is asking you to do more than what were originally planned or it's more complicated than what you thought? Or how come Xerox seems to be the one eating all the costs on this? Or am I just misunderstanding the key issues here?

Ursula Burns

Management

So it is a combination of many things, and I would not – I don't think it's fair, the government would think, Nevada would think that we're the only ones eating all of the costs here. I think that they probably feel a little bit of a sting as well. But it's a combination of things. One, it is clearly that we miss estimated and I will say that we miss estimated the amount of energy and effort that it would take to. One, get the system defined right, this is jointly between the state and us one to do that. And then once you get that, to stabilize it to the point where the operations are predictable that we can understand what volumes would come in at what time, what number of people would try to enroll on certain days. Something that you've seen, unfortunately across a lot of the health exchanges is just the flood of people on any given day, or any given time is just not predictable. So we had something to do with just not understanding fully – not predicting fully what could happen at any given time. But it's also change in requirements, it is a new set of laws that we're trying to develop a system around, it's a combination of many things here. But I want to make sure that I leave the call with understanding that Xerox is responsible for it and has to be responsible for fixing it and we're going to do that on behalf of the government of Nevada and that what we'll do. MMIS is different, we're pretty comfortable with what we have to do there, we have a couple of implementations that are going fairly well, we know how to lean it out, we know how to move, it's taking a bit more time but it's not as unpredictable as Nevada has been.

Jim Suva - Citi

Analyst

Okay. And then Kathy made a comment about M&A and the pipeline being strong there. You had M&A continues to come in softer than expected and many investors like the M&A and the accretiveness of it. Kathy, is it just so much of your effort has been diverted to trying to fix the Services business? Or why would this M&A additions continue to take longer and longer and longer and yet the pipeline continues to be healthy and healthy, it seems like there's some type of disconnect there about we've heard the story before, and what's the delay here?

Kathy Mikells

Management

So, I'll start with, M&A actually started out stronger this year than it was in 2013, so while I am also pointing to M&A as we had hoped to get more done, at this point than we've been able to get done, on a year-over-year basis just the Invoco deal alone is an exit of the Services deal that we did in 2013. So it isn't that M&A isn't improving and on a good track it's just not going as fast as we would desire it to go. And it's more timing I would say than revising our overall expectations in terms of what we think will get done this year. And so, we have one decent sized deal, I'd say, under our belt we did another deal, but it was relatively small in this quarter, and so it's not going to give us all that much in terms of revenue and profit. But we've closed on a couple of things and I do feel good about our ability to get more done.

Ursula Burns

Management

And Kathy is not distracted. I mean she has a team that works on this that is pretty much separate from the rest of the operational areas of the business. We are focused on this, at a level of intensity that is pretty high. We're not going to do as we say all the time, we say it continuously. Any deal that we don't think we can manage and bring in comfortably into the company, and we're not going to do a deal that doesn't fit into strategic growth areas that we have and we do have a pipeline that's pretty good now. And as Kathy said, some that are tipping towards the end in the coming quarters.

Bob Zapfel

Analyst

I would just add that I think our process is really strong. So on your comment on whether people would be distracted. We largely wouldn't be looking to do it in the space where we've had the government healthcare solutions problems that we've talked about so extensively. And I would say the process in terms of the discipline, what's the economics, how does it fit from a growth standpoint is very strong. So they don't happen overnight and we still have more that we see that will be able to drive.

Jim Lesko

Management

Thanks Jim. We could have the next question, please?

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And our next question comes from the line of George Tong from Piper Jaffray.

George Tong - Piper Jaffray

Analyst

Good morning. Thanks for taking my questions. Kathy, you touched on this earlier, but could you provide some additional color on the progress of your various margin initiatives in Services outside of healthcare in terms of productivity initiatives and off-shoring efforts? And if you were to think about excluding healthcare sort of giving us a sense of what margins for Services would be for the full-year?

Kathy Mikells

Management

So I'll speak a little bit more to the quarter as opposed to the full year, and then I'll come back to circle back to the full year. So I really appreciate the question because overall the additional costs and resources we've had to pour into government healthcare really overshadowed I think the good progress that we're making elsewhere. Clearly, we had pointed to in our Investor Day in November a big push on I'd say bold shifting labor offshore in order to get benefits from those lower costs as well as just improving efficiencies overall. Really both of those things targeted to try and get labor costs as a percent of revenue down, which is a big part of the push towards margin expansion. And so I feel good about the progress that we made in the quarter there, again excluding the incremental cost that we poured into government healthcare, both in terms of moving people offshore and hiring more offshore as we attract people in the U.S. But I’d say especially, George, in terms of just getting enhanced productivity and putting more money to work in terms of restructuring. So I feel very good about that, other planks of our five planks strategy, international expansion, I think the Invoco acquisition and ongoing organic growth seems to be going very well. I spoke to some of the things that we're doing to push up growth rates organically in some of our more advantaged businesses with higher margins. So as I look across our five-plank strategy, I feel good about what we're doing to execute, and if you put government healthcare aside that was worth 70 basis points in the first quarter. If you look at the adjustment we've made to full year it's basically a 70-basis-point adjustment on full year from where we had originally started thinking we were going to get 50 basis points of expansion. So I think we're on track in terms of making progress outside of government healthcare.

George Tong - Piper Jaffray

Analyst

That's very helpful. Thank you. And for my follow-up question, Ursula, could you discuss the leverage you're seeing from past government healthcare platform implementations and what kind of leverage you expect once Nevada Health Exchange and other current MMIS implementations have been fully stood up?

Ursula Burns

Management

Right. So what we – we have a business where we actually operate MMIS systems in 12 states today plus the District of Columbia, maybe a little bit higher, maybe 13 states but 12 states plus the District of Columbia. We implemented those states under platform from many years ago and those states and the operation of them smooth operation and very profitable business for us and very happy customers in the state. Each platform as I said take a little bit of time to stabilize, obviously, a little bit more difficult than on the new MMIS than on the old one. They last a very long time, a decade, decade and a half easily, and if you look at our history there. We expect as we stabilize the new MMIS enterprise platform in the states that we have won and that we continue to compete for that we'll have a mirror, essentially a mirror of the government health MMIS business that we had in the past on a go-forward basis. If we didn't do a new platform, by the way, we would not be able to compete very effectively for this business, so it's a necessary thing to do to hold our position in the enterprise space. On health exchanges, we operate in a number of states, six or seven states generally in a partnership fashion, a consortium fashion with other providers doing other pieces. In those implementations we are humming along, they're delivering as we expect, the profitability in the model is that as we expect in Nevada as I said in the new exchange that's the place that we're going to have to stabilize. And it'll take us a little bit more time to do and we're figuring it'll take us for the rest of the year to get this all straightened out and so that's interesting. So I think healthcare historically, government healthcare historically and on a go-forward basis it will be very profitable and is very attractive. And we continue to expect it to be. Commercial healthcare is the winner for us, already growing revenue ahead of where we expect and expanding margins so a commercial healthcare broad participation there, a big business for us actually bigger than government healthcare business and a very profitable business for us. So we expect this whole space of healthcare to actually be a good business for us, continue to be a good business for us as we go forward.

Jim Lesko

Management

Thanks, George. We can have the next question, please.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And our next question comes from the line of Kulbinder Garcha from Credit Suisse.

Kulbinder Garcha - Credit Suisse

Analyst

Thanks. I just want to ask a question really about the cost of these government contracts in the sense that it looks like if your margins [have been revised] (ph) it would have been sliced it probably cost about $20 million more than it costs this quarter, maybe $80 million for the year. Are those in the ballpark, firstly? And then beyond that, as you win new government business, I'm trying to think about the synergies you might have and could it be the case that next year you go for more this type of business, you win more states or more exchanges or how do you want to describe it on those costs meaningfully drop to zero? Or would there be an on going level of cost that just Xerox obviously have to go through a learning curve? I know it's going to be a hard question to ask because every contract is different. I'm just trying to think of what level of visibility you have as you try and build out this government business? Thanks.

Kathy Mikells

Management

So let me start with first you mentioned, hey, was government healthcare going to cost you about $20 million in the quarter and about $80 million for the year? And my answer to that is yes year-over-year. It did cost us $20 million in the quarter and as we look to full year and our revisions to Services margins which I talked about earlier, that is for us to now anticipate and build into our overall guidance and expectation of just higher costs in government healthcare throughout the year. As we look forward to incremental implementations, our expectation would be that we will get better at incremental implementation. I mean, as we are bidding on new work, we are taking the learnings that we have today into consideration and looking forward and bidding on new specifically MMIS platforms in other states. As it relates to Nevada, I think it's really important to understand we actually participate in a handful of other state healthcare insurance exchanges. We just don't play this role in terms of being the primary on the implementation of the platform. And in those other states we're doing really well in terms of supporting call center work and other BPO claims processing work and the like, and so that continues to be I think both a strong business for us today and a good opportunity on a go-forward basis.

Kulbinder Garcha - Credit Suisse

Analyst

Thank you.

Jim Lesko

Management

Thanks, Kulbinder. Can we have our last question now, please?

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our final question for today comes from the line of Tien-tsin Huang from JPMorgan.

Tien-tsin Huang - JPMorgan

Analyst

Great. Thanks. I'll try and be quick. I just kind of want to build on a couple past questions. First, the confidence in the second quarter signings, you mentioned some customer decision delays. Can you elaborate on that? Is that cyclical and broad-based and has that persisted in April? And I have a follow-up.

Kathy Mikells

Management

And so if we look at signings in the second quarter, we're expecting we're going to see sequential improvement relative to the first quarter, but the other thing I mentioned is we also have another tough comp year-over-year. So last year, the signings number was about $3.7 billion and at that point it had been up 40% year-over-year, so I'm expecting good sequential improvement.

Tien-tsin Huang - JPMorgan

Analyst

Okay. Then just the higher cost tag the government healthcare maybe had a lot of questions. It feels a little bit like déjà vu to me, but any risk in meeting SLA milestones? Is the state cooperating? And then just trying to understand if you're spending enough. I know $20 million is a big dollar amount, but I just wanted to make sure we're covered here in terms of any other future surprises?

Ursula Burns

Management

So I think from the MMIS perspective, I'm very comfortable that we're spending what we need to spend. MMIS spreads across many different states, so small increment spending. First data, I think we have that pretty well comprehended. In the Nevada exchange, we have comprehended a fairly big chunk of additional spending throughout the year, and I think that we've comprehended that well in this go-forward guidance. So I don't believe that we have much additional upside or downside depending on how you do it, downside in margin or upside in cost. We've actually comprehended a fairly large amount for the rest of the year.

Tien-tsin Huang - JPMorgan

Analyst

All right. Great. Thank you.

Jim Lesko

Management

Okay. That's all the time we have for questions today. Thanks for your interest. And Ursula, anything more to wrap up?

Ursula Burns

Management

Thanks. Xerox is focused on serving our customers very well, a major point of pride and cause for my optimism and confidence in the coming quarters. We'll focus on the customers and assuring that they're doing well. I'm confident that we have the right strategy, the competitive strength, a skilled and proven leadership team with some new, exciting members and the motivation to help our customers to be more successful.

Jim Lesko

Management

Thanks Ursula. That concludes our call today. If you have further questions, please contact me or any member of our Investor Relations team. Have a good day.