Hello, and welcome to the Expro Q3 2024 Earnings Presentation. My name is Elliot, and I'll be coordinating your call today. [Operator Instructions] I would now like to hand over to Chad Stevenson, Director of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Welcome to Expro's third quarter 2024 conference call. I'm joined today by Expro's CEO, Mike Jarden; and Expro's CFO, Quinn Fanning. First, Mike and Quinn will have some prepared remarks. Then, we will open it up for questions. We have an accompanying presentation on our third quarter results that is posted on Expro's website, expro.com, under the Investors section. In addition, supplemental financial information for the third quarter results is downloadable on the Expro website, likewise under the Investors section. I'd like to remind everyone that some of today's comments may refer to or contain forward-looking statements. Such remarks are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those expressed or implied by such statements. Such statements speak only as of today's date, and the Company assumes no responsibilities to update forward-looking statements as of any future date. The Company has included in its SEC filing cautionary language, identifying important factors that could cause actual results to be materially different from those set forth in any forward-looking statements. A more complete discussion of these risks is included in the Company's SEC filings, which may be accessed on the SEC's website, sec.gov, or on our website, again at expro.com. Please note that any non-GAAP financial measures discussed during the call are defined and reconciled and the most directly comparable GAAP financial measure in our third quarter 2024 earnings release, which can also be found on our website. With that, I'd like to turn the call over to Mike.

Thank you, Chad. Good morning, and good afternoon, everyone. I'd like to start off by reviewing the third quarter financial results summarized in today's earnings press release. I will then discuss the macro environment, which notwithstanding near-term headwinds, we believe supports a solid multiyear outlook for energy services companies with exposure to international and offshore markets, presenting a compelling opportunity for Expro. Finally, Quentin will provide some additional commentary on the just completed quarter and share some additional financial information. For a recap of consolidated results and quarterly results by region, I'll direct you to Slides 3 through 7 of the presentation that we posted on expro.com. Turning to Slide 3. I am pleased to report a solid quarter for Expro with Q3 2024 revenue of $423 million and adjusted EBITDA of $85 million, both within our quarterly guidance ranges. Q3 revenue was essentially at the midpoint of our guidance, and adjusted EBITDA was at the low end of guidance, largely reflecting the recognition of $7 million negative impact on our Congo Production Solutions project pending resolution of several variation orders. Excluding such losses, we would have been above the midpoint of adjusted EBITDA guidance for the September quarter. As anticipated, the sequential revenue decline of $47 million or 10%, largely reflected the ramp-up of a construction and delivery phase of the Congo project as well as strong Q2 results for our subsea well access business which was driven by PRT activity and NLA and legacy Expro activity and ESSA. Our press release also highlighted sequentially lower well construction and well test activity and NLA, compared to Q3 2023, revenue was up $53 million or 14%, largely reflecting the results of PRT Offshore and Coretrax partially offset by lower revenue from the Congo Production Solutions project. Q3, 2024 adjusted EBITDA…

Thank you, Mike. As Mike noted, we reported revenue of $423 million for the quarter ended September 30, as compared to the guidance range for Q3 2024 revenue of $410 million to $430 million was provided on our Q2 earnings conference call. Northern Latin America was really the only region that came in below Q3 revenue expectations, primarily reflecting lower-than-expected well construction activity in the U.S. and lower-than-expected well testing activity in Mexico, partially offset by better-than-expected subsea results in the U.S. Gulf of Mexico. Sequentially, revenue was down $47 million as a result of the non-repeat of a large subsea project in Angola in Q2 and the ramp-up of the construction and delivery phase of the Congo Production Solutions project. Partially offset by higher revenue in MENA, which was driven by incremental activity plus the additional month of Coretrax revenue. Our current expectation is that we will see a modest sequential rebound in NLA activity in Q4 in part due to an expected pickup in well testing activity and good sequential growth in ESSA, largely driven by Subsea. MENA and Asia Pacific should be stable with modest sequential growth and strong year-over-year growth largely reflecting additional subsea activity, including PRT activity and Coretrax. For reference, revenue for the quarter ended September 30 was up $53 million or 14% year-over-year. And with the strongest Q3 revenue since we completed the Expro/Frank's merger in Q4 of 2021. Net income for the third quarter of 2024 was $16 million or $0.14 per diluted share compared to a net loss of $14 million or $0.13 per diluted share in the third quarter of 2023. Adjusted net income, which excludes merger and integration expense, severance and other expense and stock-based compensation expense for Q3 2024 was $28 million or $0.23 per diluted share compared…

Thank you, Quinn. Expro has accomplished a lot year-to-date in 2024 with solid financial performance. Some key highlights include the acquisition of Coretrax, which enhances our depth and talent and the capabilities of our product offerings and the successful integration of the PRT offshore team. As Quinn stated, we believe that the fundamental macro backdrop while setting up to provide only modest near-term growth should provide a multiyear up cycle for the international and offshore sectors. We continue to enhance our ability to support our customers through the cycle with our cost-effective, technology-enabled services and solutions, which we believe can deliver enhanced returns to our shareholders. Based on project sanctioning levels and customer dialogue, we are confident in our future prospects and believe we have a clear path to sustain momentum for the remainder of the decade. We are confident that our talented global team's commitment to excellent execution and advancing our strategic initiatives will enable us to champion safety deliver best-in-class service across the life cycle of the field and capitalized on organic and inorganic growth opportunities. With that, we can now open up the call for questions.

[Operator Instructions] First question comes from Neil Mehta with Goldman Sachs. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

I guess a couple of questions on the outlook. You did a great job kind of helping us understand the last quarter, but can you just talk about the revision to the 2024 outlook in a little bit more detail and what were the most important moving pieces? And then that kind of bridges me to the follow-up, which is, as we think about the path to 25% adjusted EBITDA margin and $2 billion of revenue, how should we think about the building blocks to get there and help the market get confidence around that? So, two related questions.

Thanks, Neil. I'll start and then Mike can supplement. Yes. So, the midpoint of our current guidance is about 5.5% below the midpoint that we laid out on the Q2 call. Really, as I mentioned, performance also expectations for the third quarter, setting aside the Congo project, which we can touch on as well is really in the Northern Latin market we've had, as Mike mentioned, what we believe will ultimately be a temporary hiatus and DST activity as part of the cost containment effort. Similarly, in the Gulf of Mexico, we had weaker performance in the well construction product line and particular to a lesser extent, testing. There's weather in the Gulf of Mexico, certainly in the third quarter that had an impact. So, the well testing activity in Mexico was separate and apart from that. So, I guess from our perspective, that the business is moving in the right direction, NLA has some soft spots that we just talked about. So, I guess as we kind of look forward, getting back to the momentum that we thought we had 60 days ago was really just to be a function of customer budgets, spending plans, and we think it's going to start a little slow given the market tone and the commodity price backdrop, but the sanctioning activity has been high. It's expected to remain high in the international offshore markets, so we should be a primary beneficiary of that. So, we may have a little bit of zigzagging over the next couple of quarters. But by and large, we think that the market is going to play to our favor. Again, getting to the higher end of the current guidance probably requires favorable resolution of the Congo project variation orders. There's potentially some upside in terms of an extended season in the Northern European markets. If we see a return to the historical activity that we had in Mexico, that should probably help as well. But I would say, Asia Pac, MENA continue to perform strongly. ESSA is we're going to have a good quarter. We believe in the fourth quarter with Subsea project deliveries in Africa. And NLA, at least in our minds, is the biggest question mark in the short term.

Yes. And Neil, I guess a couple of things I would add is in the discussions that I'm having with customers, and to be honest, really over the course of the last 30, 45 days, I really kind of tried to redouble the efforts around that to understand where their thought process is that, and those type of things. And I'm certainly not seeing project sanctioning is not going to happen or those type things, I think there's just some choppiness right now. I think that the fact that there happens that we have to be an election season in the U.S. is providing a little bit of uncertainty, ongoing what's going on in the Middle East and in the Ukraine, which quite frankly, probably becomes more clear how those two areas will play out given post the election results in the U.S. I think that's kind of creating some uncertainty in the short term and whether that's another month or another two months or another quarter, I think, is to be flushed out. But I'm certainly not hearing anything from our customers where they're just not going to move projects forward. And I think if you look at some of the longer-term indicators, the three order backlogs and what's happening with some of the rig rates and what's happening with some of those kind of things, that's why we continue to see strength in activity through the tail end of the decade. And then the only other comment I would make, and Quinn touched on it for Q4 here. Part of this is dependent upon the resolution we end up with on the Congo project. Keep in mind, that was a fast-track project. The nature of it was such that the variation orders would be agreed upon post the commissioning of the facility because it was intended to be fast track. It's a little bit unique, and we've taken a very careful approach because of project accounting guidance and those type of things, both in terms of how we reflect a thing in Q2 and Q3. And until we have more real clear certainty, i.e., signed variation orders, we're going to continue to be careful and methodical with that. But quite frankly, that was a project that was delivered 30% quicker than typical projects of that size and that requirement for the operator. And it's a facility we've been able to demonstrate has because of the design has a lot of flexibility in which we've been able to operate the facility at greater than 10% of the desired capacity. So, there's a lot of those kind of things. There's just a lot of moving pieces and parts that we'll look to get resolved here in the coming couple of months.

And then just a follow-up, if you could talk about the bridge to that $2 billion and the 25% EBITDA margin. It sounds like you're thinking it could be a '26 event. What are the milestones we should be watching to suggest that you're moving towards that?

I guess just focusing on margins for a second. Really three building blocks that we've talked about on previous calls. Number one is going to be kind of activity set in the market. We think it's going to be against lower starting out the year. So, if you kind of slide our expectations to quarters. That's kind of where our heads are at right now. But it's activity mix, it's operating leverage and it's pricing. And if the activity mix because of a slower ramp-up in drilling completions activity is the case, that shifts things out a bit. As we've talked about in the past, our drilling completions levered businesses tend to come with the highest margins. So, if activity and pricing is going to be less part of the story in the short term, we're focused on maximizing operating leverage and that's why Mike mentioned that we have some cost initiatives. So, we've got more than one tool in the tool kit, and we may be emphasizing the cost side of things more so in the short term than the tailwind that comes with pricing or for that matter, more favorable activity mix. So, I think 60 days ago, we would have said that we would probably, at some point in 2025 we have that $2 billion run rate on a nice glide path towards the mid-20s EBITDA margins. And I still see that in our near-term future, probably shifted out at least a couple of quarters.

We now turn to Arun Jayaram with JPMorgan Chase. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

I wanted to maybe first start with Congo. Mike, my understanding is that you're delivering the plant in the third quarter, and then you would soon be shifting to the O&M piece, which is the eight-year contract. Is that still correct? And is it fair to say that some of the losses that you reported in the last couple of quarters, are those in the rearview mirror? And if you do get some resolution of the change orders that, that could potentially be booked into earnings in the fourth quarter. Just give us a sense of how the profitability of Congo goes from here? And what's embedded in that fourth quarter guide in terms of Congo?

Sure. No, it's a great question and I appreciate the opportunity to clarify it. So fundamentally, yes, we will go operational move into the O&M phase here in any day now, so to speak, the facility is up and running already, but the handover portion is about to be completed. So, we will move into that O&M phase. And that's part of the question around some of these outstanding variation orders is are they going to be tagged as part of the upfront build phase? Or are they going to be added into the O&M phase. And so that's part of what we're working our way through with some engagements with the customer. Overall, project economics may change a little bit based upon the build phase or the O&M phase based upon the resolution of those variation orders. But as I said a few minutes ago, fundamentally, 30% quicker than historical facilities have been delivered. We have the production capability, the capacity capability to ramp up to over 10%. So, there's a lot of those kind of positives. And it's just working our way through a fast-track project to get those kind of things resolved and ironed out.

Okay. Got it. And then, in terms of the fourth quarter guide, what are your assumptions around Congo just to be specific?

Yes. So, as I mentioned in my prepared remarks, at the high end of guidance, we're going to have some margin recovery in the fourth quarter on the Congo project. As Mike mentioned, whether or not that is essentially resolved as part of the construction phase, which would benefit Q4 or Q1 results or if it's tacked on to the O&M phase, that will be spread over a longer period of time. So, I think that's a big question mark in terms of where we fall in the guidance. But maybe just to put things in context, the midpoint of the range that we're talking about is, I guess, a little over 2% shy of where we established guidance at the beginning of the year, certainly moving to this upper half of the guidance as we revise things on the Q2 call is perhaps unfortunate retrospect. But we're still 5.5% lower from where we revised guidance to call it, 90 days ago. So certainly, the weather we're off 2% relative to the initial guidance for the year of 5.5% relative to the guidance we provided on 2Q, it's with a 40% stock price correction over 90 days, the equity market seems to have a more negative view of the outlook that we do.

Yes. Fair enough. Maybe my follow-up is just to maybe, Mike, to understand what's your sense in the ground of trends in Mexico? And obviously, we had a handoff at the government level. So, I know there's been a little bit of a slack ending in activity. But what are you seeing on the ground? And maybe just remind us about Expro's exposure to Pemex in terms of your NLA segment?

Sure. So there has been -- there's been some governmental transitions in Mexico. There's been some Pemex leadership transitions. And quite frankly, if you have asked me that question last week, I would have a different answer than what I have today because we're seeing from an exploration standpoint, a more historic kind of fact pattern behavior that we're seeing today than what we were seeing 30 days ago. So, I think that's just kind of a bit of a process for them to sort through. We don't have the exposure we have in Mexico is largely around some of the exploration testing, a little bit of well construction. And those exploration tests tend to be pretty chunky revenues and whether it's -- they don't have success, so they don't test the well or it's -- they're trying to spend their exploration budgets very judiciously like they've kind of acted like here recently. That's most of what our exposure is and activity is. We do a lot of that through third parties as opposed to -- we partner with other service providers as opposed to us having a direct relationship with Pemex.

Our next question comes from Eddie Kim with Barclays. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Just wanted to touch on the outlook for next year. It seems like your views on next year have kind of come down a bit versus three months ago, especially with kind of the medium-term guidance, $2 billion revenue, 25% EBITDA margin is getting pushed out a few quarters. Is that related to the white space concerns for next year that the offshore drillers have been telegraphing over the past two to three months or is it something different?

Eddie, I guess what I would say is that we certainly are -- we're still in -- we're in the very early phases of our budget process for 2025. And we really do kind of a bottoms up high level of granularity. So, it's based upon a lot of customer -- specific customer feedback on projects. And we're not -- as I said, we're kind of in the early innings of that. I think our commentary is more based upon some of the sentiment, some of the feel. I'm not getting the white space concerns and the white space issues translate into our activity from my direct conversations with customers. But I think we're trying to be sensitive to some commentary from others around moderated activity in 2025 offshore international, not the same high single-digit growth. It's kind of more single-digit growth. I think we're trying to be more sensitive to that. And once we kind of go through our budgeting process, it's based on very specific customer project feedback here over the course of the next 45 days, we'll have a better sense of how that kind of translates into activity going into 2025. I think it really is -- I think we may have 2025, it may be really the tale of two halves. I think you may have on activity rate in the first half of the year, and I would anticipate that the activity rate in the second half of the year is going to be in a much greater slope, which is going to provide some operational challenges, but that's kind of my sense of how we may see things play out in 2025.

Okay. Understood. And then, my follow-up is just on net pricing. You previously talked about net pricing gains in the second half of this year to contribute about 100 to 200 bps to the overall EBITDA margin uplift this year. Is that still the expectation? And then looking ahead to next year, I understand the net pricing gains might be difficult next year, which you alluded to. I mean -- how much of a contribution, I guess, to any margin uplift next year, should we expect is that, if at all?

Yes. Eddie, I think it really -- my view is the net pricing impact here for the back half of 2024 is really not different than what we said in the last quarter. We are project by project, we try to get as much of a pricing adjustment as we can, certainly in terms of net pricing. I think how we set ourselves up for 2025, pharmacy is going to depend on what is the slope of that first half activity set versus the slope of the second half activity set. My feel if it plays out that way, that we're probably going to see more of the 100-ish basis points of impact in the second half of 2025 would be my sense today. But again, we're very, very early innings of our budget process which again, because it kind of goes through a project by project, we start to see how the previous pricing levels kind of feather into that activity set for next year, but that would be my sense. Quinn, do you have anything different you want to add?

I think the -- I mean the well construction, in particular, in the drilling completions levered activity more broadly, we are getting pricing as we've said in the past, the work that we have in backlog is at better pricing than the work that we've been executing to date, whether that moderates in this more negative tone in the near term, it's an open question. But I think it's going to come down as it does with most things to supply and demand and the capacity constraints within deepwater well construction and the landing stream-driven business remain sort of technology-enabled services where you should be able to get pricing, and we have been getting pricing and whether or not that passes or not, again, it's probably no big question. So, we had anticipated up to 200 basis points of margin benefit in '24 from pricing, that probably would have gotten us to the high end of the guidance that we had initially established of 20% to 22% EBITDA margins. And based on the current guidance, backing down closer to plus or minus 20% for the year. And we'll finish out Q4 somewhere in the 21%, 22% zip code or 20% to 22% zip code. And clearly, that's off from where we thought we'd be 60 days ago or 90 days ago.

Understood. And I appreciate we're a bit early on 2025. So, I appreciate all the color.

Thanks, good speak.

[Operator Instructions] We now turn to Steve Ferazani with Sidoti. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Mike and Quinn appreciate and responses this morning, to give us a little bit more understanding where things might be going. Can you talk a little bit about the new contract awards with a very solid backlog, which is back up the backlog that you're getting from Coretrax and PRT? Trying to get a sense of what's embedded in some of these more recent contract awards was embedded in margins? And are you seeing what you're getting in backlog to be better pricing, somewhat better pricing than what you're reporting right now?

Somewhat better is probably the best characterization. So again, it's really the drilling -- the completions levered businesses and in particular, what we've described as capacity-constrained asset classes in deepwater well construction subsea. I think it was a general matter. We've gotten 10%, 15% benefit in the repricing of deepwater well construction and subsea well access pricing. But it's not across geographies and if not covering all of our product lines. So again, certain product lines are moving in the right direction, others are less so.

To get to that medium-term target by 2026 still implies double -- at least double-digit top line growth in '25 and '26, you're still comfortable with that?

I think we'll hold off on providing revenue or other guidance for '25 until we get through the budget season. But to get to those medium-term targets seen in our slides, contemplates plus 10% top line growth. And that's certainly not what we're expecting in the very short term. We think it's more of a '25.

Yes.

Go ahead, Steve.

Synergies and how you feel so far about Coretrax and where that's trending and your growth opportunities for Coretrax, what you're thinking now versus maybe 90 days ago when it was still much more recent?

Yes. I mean it's -- we continue to be very excited about Coretrax. It's always it's always a little bit tricky when you get completely under the tent is what you really thought it was. And what I can tell you is we've not seen anything that has been a surprise. One of the challenges, I actually had dinner last night with some of the Coretrax team and part of the conversation we had was really making sure that we rank and prioritize the countries we're going to go to, to pursue first because we can't we operate probably in 10 or 12 countries today on Coretrax, we can't go to 60 tomorrow. So, we're going to focus on the right ones that can have the most impact in the right order, but it's great technology. One of the things that the Coretrax team was so excited about was, they have so many more customer touch points in markets like Latin America and which Coretrax was very underrepresented, they have a lot more customer -- contracts, a lot more customer engagements there. So, from a revenue synergy standpoint, it's tremendously positive that was never really about a cost synergy. It was really more around cost avoidance. So, some of the back-office support and those type of things that we need in Coretrax some of the engineering efforts and finance and IT and HR, we're going to be able to supplement that in there. So, it's a great opportunity for us, and we continue to be really excited about it. And hopefully, we can continue to accelerate the growth on that business. And it's similar to what we've seen out of the PRT acquisition as well or even DeltaTek. It's technologies we thought we were getting really, really high-performing teams, and it's really around how do we internationalize those and how do we make sure we go to the next 10 countries, we get those in the right order to go to maximize the potential.

Our final question comes from Josh Jayne with Daniel Energy Partners. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

So, if we take a step back and just think about a lot of the issues that you're trying to solve for in your business, specifically in deepwater. There's let's call this white space for the next 12 months, that's fine. But day rates are still elevated for a lot of the contracts that have been signed. And so, I would assume the value proposition hasn't changed for a number of your products. Could you speak to that a little bit?

Yes. I mean, Josh, I think it's a fair question. My sense is because let's keep in mind, the white space, it has an effect on some of the drillers, but not all of them. And we're active on a wide number of 130-ish floating assets. We're active on probably 70 of them, I would say, with some different type of services. So, I think that white space impact is probably going to be more of a first half of the year phenomenon. You continue to see some really strong healthy day rates that are being contracted. Part of this is around efficiency and those type things. And that's why I highlighted in our prepared remarks around CENTRI-FI some of the things we're doing around some of our DeltaTek cure technologies, those really bring tremendous operational efficiencies on the rigs. And with elevated day rates, even whether it's short, medium or long term, when you can bring technology to bear that reduces -- significantly reduces the amount of operating time, the amount of time waiting on cement and those kind of things, it has a real financial benefit for the customers. So, that's kind of see how I see that playing out. That's part of the reason why my view and what I commented earlier was I think we may see two different slopes of activity growth in 2025. And yes, I think it kind of corresponds a little bit to some of the potential uncertainty with the white space.

For sure. And maybe you could just speak to -- you've obviously been pretty active in M&A over the last couple of years. And maybe one of the positives of the correction in oil prices from what we've seen over the summer is potential for more opportunities for you. Could you just talk, if at all, how the correction in oil pricing at the number of opportunities you've been able to look at over the last three to six months, and how that potentially has changed your outlook, and how you're thinking about uses of capital going forward?

Sure. It's another really good question. What I would tell you is, we have a full-time dedicated corporate development team, albeit a small team, but we continue -- we've looked at a large number of potential combinations over the course of the last several years. We continue to work hard on that. For us, it's always going to be the industrial logic that has to lead these thought processes. We want to become more relevant to our customers. We feel like that's something that's highly important because I firmly believe that if we become more relevant to our customers, we can explain to investors and to analysts why being more relevant is better for us as a company. At some point in time, today, we're highly leveraged to the drilling and completion phase of the industry to kind of more our customers' CapEx spend. We think that's a good place to be given where we believe drilling completions activity will be for the remainder of the decade. But at some point, in time, we're going to have a greater exposure to our customers' OpEx spend, so more production-related, more production optimization, more intervention related. So, we continue to look at different aspects and different opportunities. I don't necessarily look at the commodity price correction as a better or worse opportunity for us. We look at the long-term industrial logic and long-term valuation aspects of these kind of things. But yes, long answer to say, we continue to look at things that would help strengthen us and help us become more relevant to our customers and subsequently more relevant to the market.

Okay. And then maybe just one quick final one to ask a question on 2025 a different way. I know in your prepared remarks, Mike, you talked about and maybe this is a question for Quinn, you talked about you aren't going to call out cost targets for next year at this time. But maybe just at a high level, is there any way you could discuss the things that -- the type of things that you're targeting, obviously, there's going to be synergies from the M&A that you've done? But maybe just talk about some of the cost opportunities in the business looking into next year. So that even if we are in a flattish rig count environment, you guys can still pull-through margin expansion.

Sure. I'll start off and let Quinn add some additional commentary. So, this was something that we kicked off really about 60 days ago. So, this was prior to any commodity pricing softness and those kind of things, and we've really undertaken an initiative because what we really want to do is we really have to figure out how are we going to do less with less. So how do we start to become more efficient? How do we drive more operating efficiency, those type things? And that's really what the initiative is about. And if we would have said, okay, we want to do these things over the course of the next 18 to 24 months if we're going to have a softer 2025 in the market than what we'd anticipated, then we're probably not going to be talking about a 24-month time frame. We're probably going to be talking about a 9- to 15-month time frame. So, we'll kind of double down on what our efforts are there, so we can take those kind of things out. For us, this is not just about going through and making -- just making a head count reduction. That's not what it is. It's really around some of our operational efficiencies, some of our internal processes, whether it's in finance or it's in supply chain, those kind of things really kind of drive that kind of operational efficiency. It's not just about headcount, but it's simplifying our business. It's making our business more efficient. It's utilizing technology, more to our benefit to help accelerate things.

And I think that we have made significant investments in systems, I mean this is not a novel concept, but investing a bunch in technology or an ERP platform in order to do bad processes faster is not what we would consider to be a win. So, we've made the investments in technology. We're trying to take a fresh look at our underlying business processes where there's inefficiencies redundancy within our matrix organization, whether there's scope for incremental rationalization of support whether there's opportunities to either centralize more in the existing centers of excellence or whatever, but yes, there's a cost benefit associated with it, but it's really about creating operating leverage with growth. And if we're in a lower growth environment in the short term, maybe it's more focused on where can we squeeze margin in the short term. But the real long-term objective is to make sure we get margin expansion with revenue growth, and as Mike said, is trying to do less with less. So, I think that's what it's about, and we'll have pretty specific targets internally, and we'll articulate in some form or fashion in February when we provide Q4 results. But as I mentioned earlier in the call, we've got three tools in the toolkit in terms of margin expansion, whether it's activity mix, pricing or operating leverage, the fact of the matter is in the short-term operating leverage has become more important than the other two, but all three should play into getting us to that mid-20s level that we've talked about.

Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes our Q&A and today's Expro Q3 2024 earnings presentation. We'd like to thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect your lines.