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Xperi Inc. (XPER)

Q2 2024 Earnings Call· Mon, Aug 5, 2024

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Operator

Operator

Thank you for standing by. My name is Mandeep and I'll be your operator today. At this time, I'd like to welcome everyone to the Xperi Q2 2024 Earnings Call. All lines being placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speakers remarks, there'll be a question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] I would now like to turn the call over to Mike Iburg, Head of Investor Relations. You may begin.

Mike Iburg

Analyst

Thank you. Good afternoon and thank you for joining us as Xperi reports, its second quarter 2024 financial results. With me on today's call are Jon Kirchner, Chief Executive Officer, and Robert Andersen, Chief Financial Officer. In addition to today's earnings release, there is an earnings presentation which you can access along with this webcast on our Investor Relations website at investor.xperi.com. Before we begin, I'd like to provide a few reminders. First, I would like to note that unless otherwise stated, all quarterly comparisons are to the same quarter in the prior year. Second, today's discussions contains forward-looking statements that are predictions, projections or other statements about future events which are based on management's current expectations and beliefs and therefore subject to risks, uncertainties and changes in circumstances. For more information on the risks and uncertainties that could cause our actual results to differ materially from what we discussed today, please refer to the risk factors and MD&A section in our SEC filings, including our most recent Form 10-K and 10-Q. Please note that the company does not intend to update or alter these forward-looking statements to reflect events or circumstances arising after this call. Third, we refer to certain non-GAAP financial measures which are detailed in the earnings release and accompanied by reconciliations to their most directly comparable GAAP measures, which can be found in the Investor Relations section of our website. Lastly, a replay of this conference call will be available on our website shortly after the conclusion of this call. I would now like to turn the call over to Xperi's CEO, Jon Kirchner.

Jon Kirchner

Analyst

Thank you, Mike, and thank you everyone for joining us on our second quarter 2024 earnings call. Since our separation from Adeia, we focused our efforts on a multi-year business transformation designed to drive revenue growth and margin expansion. Many of the steps we've taken and decisions we've made are now coming to fruition and yielding the positive results we expected. We've streamlined the product portfolio with the divestiture of AutoSense, providing greater alignment with our key growth markets and allowing us to benefit from the associated cost reductions. We've taken steps to remove organizational complexity, improve our systems and simplify our processes, which has also contributed to improved profitability. These transformational actions have been accomplished while making targeted investments to support our strategic initiatives and achieving major milestones in key growth areas. Today, these initiatives better position the company for long term success. In conjunction with this transformation effort and in preparation for our next cycle of growth, we've expanded our board of directors with the addition of Jeremi Gorman and Rod Randall, two highly qualified candidates who have hit the ground running adding value with their insights and expertise in Ad Tech, monetization, automotive and capital allocation. I'll let Robert walk you through the financial details in just a moment, but let me first touch on a few highlights. Strong performance in Connected Car and IPTV were the highlights in the quarter. These were offset by the expected decline in consumer electronics due to the large number of multi-year deals closed last year and media platform softness due to a unique initial ad buy last year. The net result was Q2 revenue of approximately $120 million, up 1% sequentially and down 2% from the year ago quarter when adjusting for the AutoSense divestiture, consistent with the commentary provided…

Robert Andersen

Analyst

Thanks Jon. Before I go through the quarter's results, let me remind listeners that as usual, all comparisons in my comments are to the same quarter in the prior year. Total revenue for the second quarter was approximately $120 million, down 6% from last year's reported revenue and down 2% when adjusting for the AutoSense and related imaging solutions to Vechester that occurred earlier this year. With that in mind, and in order to compare apples to apples, let me compare this quarter's revenue by market against last year's results excluding the divestiture. Pay TV, our largest revenue category was up 5%, bringing first half Pay TV revenue to essentially flat compared to the first half of last year. The Q2 increase was primarily driven by IPTV growth, which was up 45% year-over-year, along with classic guide revenues renewals from Claro, VTR and Liberty Latin America, which Jon mentioned earlier. Given the importance of IPTV as a strategic growth initiative, we've included a supplemental disclosure in the appendix of the earnings presentation, which provides IPTV revenue within the Pay TV category for the past six quarters. Going forward, we plan to provide this additional level of disclosure on a quarterly basis. Consumer electronics was down 40%, primarily due to multi-year license renewals that occurred last year, along with lower royalty revenue in Q2 from market-based softness in certain end products. Connected Car was up 41%, primarily due to a significant multi-year program with an Asian based tier one automotive supplier for our DTS in cabin codec where accounting rules required us to recognize all revenue upfront. Media platform was down 25% year-over-year, primarily due to a decline in advertising revenue from a unique initial ad buy with the customer that occurred last year. Additionally, a portion of the advertising decline…

Operator

Operator

Thank you. We will now begin the question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from the line of Steve Frankel with Rosenblatt. Please go ahead.

Steve Frankel

Analyst

Good afternoon. Thank you. Jon, maybe we can start with the AutoStage pipeline. I think you guys have laid out a goal and we're kind of getting into the later part of the year. What's your confidence level in the getting those deals in by the end of the year? And were there any deals that maybe you expected to get this quarter that got pushed into the back half of the year?

Jon Kirchner

Analyst

Steve, no, no deals I would say unexpectedly pushing out. I think we're working a pretty robust pipeline across the board for both AutoStage audio as well as the video elements. So, I think we feel good about being able to hit our, you know, hit our metrics for the year. And I think, the bigger picture is that, we're building quite a footprint that, through a combination of license fees and, we believe ultimately, opportunities in terms of upselling features as well as subscription fees will set the stage downstream for really ad-based monetization in a much bigger way. So, I think we feel very, very good about what's happening in the automotive space right now.

Steve Frankel

Analyst

Okay. And you mentioned a DTS codec win in the automotive space in Asia. What's the use case for that? Is that primarily video or will there be music adoption that will drive the use of that codec on the music side?

Jon Kirchner

Analyst

Primarily video.

Steve Frankel

Analyst

Okay. And then lastly, I know it's early days on TiVo OS, but maybe give us a couple of learnings from the early, from the early units in market, kind of what do you think you've done right? Where do you think you need to make improvements to drive monetization to where you want it to go?

Jon Kirchner

Analyst

Sure. So, I think first and foremost, I mean, our primary focus is ensuring maximum customer satisfaction in terms of engagement and viewership, because those are the key ingredients that, in turn, will ultimately drive monetization. And I think from a B2B perspective, working with our partners to ensure that the process behind the scenes of getting the end client software onto TVs and working with them aggressively through the QA process will ensure that our footprint will continue to roll out and accelerate and ultimately be activated. So, I think we continue to work with partners and adjust as need be to some of their needs. You know, obviously, we're not in control of the ultimate schedule or pace at times of, with respect to production, but I think our teams have done an outstanding job of working with our partners to support them so they can be in a position to get these TVs through the channel and out there. And then obviously, we are not only learning with respect to, you know, how they're, how they're being activated and what people, of course, are viewing, but how to optimize that. And that optimization process will continue for, you know, for a long time. And it, you know, it becomes much more meaningful from a revenue perspective as you have a bigger footprint and you're really starting to drive more meaningful amounts of revenue. But I would say the team is closely learning and watching what's happening. But we feel very good about the accelerating activations as well as kind of our ability to hit our year end goal of two million active devices.

Steve Frankel

Analyst

Great. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from a line of Hamed Khorsand with BWS Financial. Please go ahead.

Hamed Khorsand

Analyst · BWS Financial. Please go ahead.

Hi. Could you just talk about what your pipeline is for consumer electronics and how your expectations for '25 is to, for it to grow, that it's not present this year?

Jon Kirchner

Analyst · BWS Financial. Please go ahead.

Well, I think from a bigger picture, there's a number of audio related markets that are reasonably mature. And so you're kind of, you ebb and flow a bit with the industry, and we have pretty wide penetration. One of the things that impacts kind of the revenue trajectory is what we talked about in our prepared remarks, which is you've got, in some cases, multi-year deals being cut, which in some cases can accelerate rev rec. And so you go through these periods of bigger spikes and then the absence of them, and then they come back and we expect that to happen in part in '25, although, as always, there's a lot of things, a lot of different discussions going on with our various partners in CE more broadly, as well as the growth of things like IMAX enhance and some of our other programs also impact what the growth rates may be. So, I think it's too early to comment specifically on how we think about '25 outlook, but what we've said is over time, we expect the CE business to kind of grow in the lower single digits, although that's if you look at it over a wider window, and that as you look at it year to year, it may have move around in lumpiness, in part because of the way deals are structured. And, Hamid, maybe one last point that's important, multi-year deals, although they lead to some lumpiness, I think are important because it further not only solidifies, but builds the depth of the relationships we have with many of these partners, where we have better long term visibility about the inclusion of our technologies on their platforms. And of course, it drives also the opportunities to further build on those relationships in ways that potentially can expand either the dollar content or the technology content available on their platforms.

Hamed Khorsand

Analyst · BWS Financial. Please go ahead.

Okay, and then my other question was, are you seeing any competitive landscape changes as far as your auto is concerned, given what's going on in Europe and the US between different automakers?

Jon Kirchner

Analyst · BWS Financial. Please go ahead.

No. I would say the automotive business, as you well know, from a bigger picture, is mixed. As we've recently seen news come out from some of the majors talking about some softness. But as far as how we think about the efforts to develop and build market share around our AutoSense program and our video efforts, I think they're going extremely well.

Hamed Khorsand

Analyst · BWS Financial. Please go ahead.

Okay, thank you.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Jason Kreyer with Craig Hallam. Please go ahead.

Jason Kreyer

Analyst · Craig Hallam. Please go ahead.

Great, thank you. You commented with some kind of early TiVo OS takeaways earlier. I'm just curious, you know, more around consumer engagement, utilization, interaction. You know, you're in 15 European countries now, so just curious, the devices that are out there in the market, are you seeing what you want to see in terms of consumer utilization and activation, and does that give you encouragement on the longer term monetization opportunity?

Jon Kirchner

Analyst · Craig Hallam. Please go ahead.

I think we're absolutely encouraged by what we're seeing. I would say that because Europe is a bit big, fragmented, which we knew kind of going in as we build bigger footprints, particularly in your large five. So, think the UK, France, Italy, Germany, Spain, where your ultimate goal is to build a bigger populace of units. I think we'll not only learn more, but we'll have more insights into how those units are fully being used and also how we can optimize content carousels, et cetera, to drive the best possible user experience, but also ultimately drive meaningful long term monetization. So, I think the short answer in the near term, based on where we are, yes, I think we're pleased by what we're seeing. I think there's obviously a lot more data to collect. And as these footprints grow, I think we'll have not only a better handle on, you know, where we need to make adjustments because there will be some, but also, I think, you know, further support the confidence we have that over the long run, we will not only build a meaningful footprint, but we'll be able to monetize it.

Jason Kreyer

Analyst · Craig Hallam. Please go ahead.

Thank you. And then any updated views on what you see as the market appetite for AutoStage video, what you think adoption curve could look like, or what maybe markets have a better opportunity in out of stage video?

Jon Kirchner

Analyst · Craig Hallam. Please go ahead.

I would tell you we are talking to most of the major automakers around video. I would say they're all engaged in the broader topic one way or the other. And I would say we are doing very well in those conversations, in some cases running tests for people to where they have a better handle on how it could work. So, I think the long-term opportunity is good. And as usual, depending on our customers product roadmaps, some are more able and interested in moving sooner, potentially through OTA type updates to existing vehicles. Others are more interested in planning in their roadmaps to have video intersect, what they're doing oftentimes two, three years down the line. And I would say we have a blend of all of those conversations going right now, but in general, I would say they're going well. And I think, as we said in our previous objectives and also in today's remarks, we expect to land at least one more video customer before the end of the year.

Jason Kreyer

Analyst · Craig Hallam. Please go ahead.

All right, got it. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from the line of Matthew Galinko with Maxim Group. Please go ahead.

Matthew Galinko

Analyst · Maxim Group. Please go ahead.

Hey, thanks for taking my questions. I just wanted to, I guess, follow up on the North American OEMs with TiVo OS. It sounds like we have one launching in end of '24 and then another in spring '25. Do I understand that correctly? Is it two OEMs that are now targeting North America, or can you just clarify that?

Jon Kirchner

Analyst · Maxim Group. Please go ahead.

Matt, we said we've signed an additional one and we previously expected to, to have one or two of them in the market here in the shorter term. So, I think we are beginning to build a pipeline of US based potential TV OS footprint, and I think some of that will take more shape as we get into '25.

Matthew Galinko

Analyst · Maxim Group. Please go ahead.

Okay, thanks. And then I guess as a follow up, how far down the path are you in terms of signing OEMs for TOS? Are you coming towards the end of that process or there's still more room to work?

Jon Kirchner

Analyst · Maxim Group. Please go ahead.

There is more pipeline, and I think as people see the product and get a sense of the customer satisfaction and the smoothness with which manufacturers have been able to implement our technology stack, I think the interest is, there's still plenty of interest there in the pipeline, maybe the best way to say it. So, I don't think we're necessarily running out of, potential customers here. But I think, you know, as you can imagine, there is a ton of focus on our team's part to work to ensure that the seven partners we have can, can really ramp because they, they, in and of themselves can represent, you know, very, very meaningful volumes over time. And I think that'll allow us to clearly continue to build our footprint. But, you know, we are, you know, continuing to engage others and, you know, I would say with, with every bit of progress, you know, you oftentimes find others are beginning to at least, who maybe weren't so interested, are beginning to take a look and at least have conversations on the margin. So, we'll continue to work it.

Matthew Galinko

Analyst · Maxim Group. Please go ahead.

Great. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

That concludes our Q&A session. I will now turn the call back over to Jon Kirchner for closing remarks.

Jon Kirchner

Analyst

Thanks, operator, and thanks, everyone, for joining today's call. We're excited about our continued strategic momentum. I'd like to thank our employees, customers and partners for helping us continue to achieve our objectives. We look forward to reviewing our Q3 results with you in early November. Operator, this concludes today's call.

Operator

Operator

This concludes today's call. You may now disconnect.