Jon Kirchner
Analyst · BWS Financial. Please go ahead.
Well, I think from a bigger picture, there's a number of audio related markets that are reasonably mature. And so you're kind of, you ebb and flow a bit with the industry, and we have pretty wide penetration. One of the things that impacts kind of the revenue trajectory is what we talked about in our prepared remarks, which is you've got, in some cases, multi-year deals being cut, which in some cases can accelerate rev rec. And so you go through these periods of bigger spikes and then the absence of them, and then they come back and we expect that to happen in part in '25, although, as always, there's a lot of things, a lot of different discussions going on with our various partners in CE more broadly, as well as the growth of things like IMAX enhance and some of our other programs also impact what the growth rates may be. So, I think it's too early to comment specifically on how we think about '25 outlook, but what we've said is over time, we expect the CE business to kind of grow in the lower single digits, although that's if you look at it over a wider window, and that as you look at it year to year, it may have move around in lumpiness, in part because of the way deals are structured. And, Hamid, maybe one last point that's important, multi-year deals, although they lead to some lumpiness, I think are important because it further not only solidifies, but builds the depth of the relationships we have with many of these partners, where we have better long term visibility about the inclusion of our technologies on their platforms. And of course, it drives also the opportunities to further build on those relationships in ways that potentially can expand either the dollar content or the technology content available on their platforms.