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Xperi Inc. (XPER)

Q3 2017 Earnings Call· Thu, Nov 2, 2017

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Operator

Operator

Good day, ladies and gentlemen and thank you for standing by and welcome to the Xperi Third Quarter Fiscal Year 2017 Earnings Conference Call. During today's presentation, all parties will be in a listen-only mode. Following the presentation, the call will be opened for questions. I would now like to turn the call over to Geri Weinfeld, Senior Director of Investor Relations for Xperi. Geri, please go ahead.

Geri Weinfeld

Management

Good afternoon, everyone. Thanks for joining us as we report our third quarter of fiscal year 2017 financial results. With me on the call today are Jon Kirchner, CEO; and Robert Anderson, CFO. Before we begin, I would like to provide two reminders. First, today's discussion contains forward-looking statements that are predictions, projections, or other statements about future events, which are based on management's current expectation and beliefs and therefore subject to risks, uncertainties and changes in circumstances. Please refer to the Risk Factors section in our SEC filings, including our most recent Forms 10-K and 10-Q for more information on the risks and uncertainties that could cause our actual results to differ materially from what we discuss today. Please note that the company does not intend to update or alter these forward-looking statements to reflect events or circumstances arising after this call. Second, we refer to certain non-GAAP financial measures, which exclude discontinued operations, restructuring and other exit costs, acquisition and related expenses, acquired intangible asset amortization, charges for acquired in-process research and development, stock-based compensation expense, expense reductions from insurance recoveries and imputing an estimated 31.5% effective tax rate on the non-GAAP pretax earnings of the Company. We have provided reconciliations of these non-GAAP measures to the most directly comparable GAAP measures in the earnings release and on the Investor Relations section of our website. A recording of this conference call will be available on our Investor Relations website at www.xperi.com and unauthorized recording of this webcast is not permitted. I'll now turn the call over to Jon Kirchner?

Jon E. Kirchner

Management

Thanks Geri and thanks to everyone for joining us. I want to open by acknowledging that we are currently experiencing and working through some short-term challenges in our business. Several customer, market specific and timing factors are impacting our results. Despite the near-term challenges we believe the fundamentals and industry trends supporting our business and opportunities set remains strong over the long-term. The challenge of timing and the resolution of our outstanding licensing matters is still uncertain though we believe that a strong catalyst exists on our Broadcom discussions before year-end. The other challenges stem from specific customer issues, market competition on the low-end of the mobile market, and time shifts and expected execution of certain new licenses. We believe all of these matters can ultimately be resolved and that the fundamentals of our business remains sound. This summer shortly after I became CEO I began a comprehensive process of reviewing each market and technology segment that our company addresses. This process which is essential to advancing our long-term strategy has already led to a narrowing of focus on fewer priorities, a deeper assessment of our competitive dynamics and other changes. One of the key aspects of that review has been the recognition that in some of our markets especially imaging we are experiencing increasing internal customer competition on low-end products. Our future direction is to innovate through advanced integrated hardware, software, and embedded solutions which is far harder to replicate by competitors. An integrated Xperi solution will deliver a far more magical and intelligent experience than is offered today. We believe that a strategy based on building advanced integrated solutions can deliver not only strong profitability and cash flow but long-term growth. With our new structure as a combined company we will take bold steps toward this vision. After…

Robert Andersen

Management

Thanks Jon. I will go into more detail on our third quarter results and the trends we're seeing in the business and then I will discuss the upcoming changes to revenue recognition standards that occur in 2018. And lastly I will provide additional details on our financial expectations for the remainder of the year. Before I do that let me make a quick comment on business integration. This year we worked successfully -- we have successfully worked our way through a large list of integration tasks. We are tracking to achieve or exceed our annualized expense synergy target of $15 million. Turning now to results, please note that with all of my comments I will begin with GAAP and then provide the comparable non-GAAP figure. Our GAAP to non-GAAP reconciliations can be found on our website and in the earnings release. As a reminder in Q3 we recognize the full cost of DTS operations. However, due to purchase accounting rules $7 million of revenue is not reflected in the income statement although we have already received cash from the contracts. It is also important to note that the purchase accounting rules impact both GAAP and non-GAAP results. Revenue for the third quarter grew 42% year-over-year due to the acquisition of DTS. Revenue was slightly below the low-end of our outlook range due to lower than expected royalty report from a large IP licensing customer which has now triggered an audit and a settlement from an IP licensing customer that slipped into Q4. In addition the product mix shift from a large imaging customer hasn't happened at the rate we expected. We closely managed the expenses during the quarter and thus earnings was in the range we provided. As expected GAAP and non-GAAP operating expenses for the quarter were up significantly…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions]. And we will go to Gary Mobley with Benchmark.

Gary Mobley

Analyst

Hi guys, hi Geri. I will start with a question about the wide range of revenue guide for Q4, I think you mostly explained it by talking about how Broadcom remains the wildcard for the fourth quarter. And so I'm just curious why you even included with the uncertainty around the December 1 date and how would any sort of resolution to the matter show up in the fourth quarter with respect to the mix of catch up payment, a continuation or some continued quarterly restructure payments or royalty payments?

Jon E. Kirchner

Management

Yeah, it is a fair question Gary. We are including in our guidance range because I think it would almost be conspicuous by its absence. It is obviously a significant part of the range that we're providing for the fourth quarter. And I can't break out exactly all of the different pieces which I'm sure you can appreciate. And I think that we have a degree of confidence that we described in the call in terms of resolution but obviously it's part of the range for that very reason.

Robert Andersen

Management

And Gary I would add two things. One is as we said a while ago and still believe, we believe that the progress in our position vis-à-vis some of the activities that are happening this fall in particular are scheduled to happen on December 1st we think are a very large catalyst and the chances are better than not that we get something done. That being said certainly our experience over the last quarter or two as time lines have moved around has stopped us short of saying it's absolutely going to or that it's absolutely not going to happen. And so what we've done is we've laid it out in a way where I think people can understand based on a series of factors how we end up in this range depending on what transpires in the short term.

Gary Mobley

Analyst

Okay, outside of the discussion of ACS 606 and the impact it's going to have on your revenue recognition for 2018 when will the purchase accounting stop impacting your quarterly revenue results from the DTSI acquisition?

Robert Andersen

Management

It starts to wane going into next year. The number that we have put in the slides that were posted this quarter is about 14 million, just over that for 2018. So we're down from 52 million to 14 million next year and they will continue to go on. So much less of an issue in 2018.

Gary Mobley

Analyst

Okay, and I appreciate the labeling of the different factors that influence your revised 2017 guide because could you talk about specifically in the third quarter what was -- was there a single factor that mostly influence the reported revenue falling below the guidance range?

Robert Andersen

Management

Well it's -- for the guidance range for Q3 there were a couple of things that I mentioned in the remarks which is really a late deal that pushed slightly out into this quarter and then a royalty report that was significantly lower than we expected which triggered or not. That was probably the two main things that had us under our range for the quarter.

Gary Mobley

Analyst

Okay, alright, I appreciate the commentary. I will hop in the queue. Thanks guys.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions]. And we will next go to Richard Shannon with Craig-Hallum.

Richard Shannon

Analyst

Well, hi guys, thanks for taking my questions as well. I guess my first question maybe I didn't understand Jon based on your early part of your prepared remarks here, but to try to bridge the prior yearly guidance range specifically the low end numbers to the new one here as we're talking about a difference of $40 million, what is all the aspect of that, was there Samsung revenue built into that change or not, it wasn't clear to me?

Jon E. Kirchner

Management

No, Samsung we took off -- Samsung IP licensing we had excluded from that bridge.

Richard Shannon

Analyst

Okay, thank you that's helpful. I guess when you talked about Invensas being some revenue being pushed out of 2018, is that specifically related to ZiBond or there were other -- was there some other impact there, since you've been talking mostly about that I thought it was from ZiBond but just wanted to be clear on that one?

Jon E. Kirchner

Management

We're engaged in a number of discussions with partners on both DBI and ZiBond. And as I mentioned we've got engagements that are progressing extremely well but we're also subject to their own internal testing cycles. And unfortunately while you do your best to move them along at the end of the day until they complete their own internal qualification processes they typically are not prepared to engage in the production license execution and based on some things that have transpired more of late, we believe some of these things are more likely to push into 2018 than close out in 2017. And thus kind of the conservative approach on eliminating those things from guidance.

Richard Shannon

Analyst

Okay, that's fair enough. Maybe if I can talk about your product licensing business and I guess this question may not be as useful given some of the discussion you had about Echo [ph] and perhaps others here but would you kind of review on the growth rates within your three major product categories within product licensing as you look into next year?

Jon E. Kirchner

Management

What I would say is that we expect the product technology licensing business to grow in 2018. We've got a number of design wins, we are seeing continuing momentum in different places, we also have some new programs that will roll in the next quarter or two that I think will provide additional support for the notion of growth. In terms of relative growth rates I think the best way to think about it is on a blended basis. You're probably looking at something we do more typically in kind of the mid single-digits to the low teens and I think that'll be determined in part based on some of the information we get over time. Now the growth rates within the different markets is something will handicap as we get closer into the year. And obviously you got different -- you've got very quite different bases in terms of the size of the respective markets. So stay tuned for more specifics on that.

Richard Shannon

Analyst

Okay, I look forward to doing that. I think I would jump back in the queue here, might jump back in if I have some follow-up as I ponder some of this but I will hold the seats for now. But thanks for taking my questions guys.

Jon E. Kirchner

Management

Sure, thanks Richard.

Operator

Operator

And we will next go to Matthew Galinko with Sidoti.

Matthew Galinko

Analyst

Hey good afternoon, can you talk a little bit more about the competition you're seeing that blow into the phone market for FotoNation and I guess what specifically are doing to curtail that, I mean are you just focusing on the high-end of the market or do you think you can compete effectively at the low-end?

Jon E. Kirchner

Management

Sure, I think one of the things to understand obviously is that the good news and the bad news in some ways about imaging is that imaging is becoming a central application in a wide range of consumer devices. I mean it's arguable today as you look at the mobile phone market as to whether they're in the phone business or they're really in the camera business. And as a result people see a large market opportunity and particularly in software based solutions what you're finding where the barrier to entry is lower you're finding more competition not only amongst smaller competitive entrants but also with in-house competition where they can look at what they've licensed. And previously and to a certain extent on lower less sophisticated applications tried to come up with a substitute that may not be as good but in many cases it might be deemed adequate. So similar to the audio business of many of years ago as we looked at different types of point solutions, what we believe is the answer to this competitively is building integrated and more advanced solutions that require a lot more expertise and sophistication to build in many cases moving them into hardware software combinations that are deeply embedded within the actual device or the software stack. Because you end up with improved performance, advanced capabilities, etcetera, etcetera. And so, notably even as some of the legacy imaging solutions we've sold and in some cases really provided for a fair amount of growth over the last five years in the imaging business, a lot of that stuff has been older and we're pivoting the business towards this more advanced stuff. And so we're doubling down and really trying to focus the teams on this notion of building integrated embedded solutions where the demand is clear. Huawei Mate 10 is their flagship phone, it's an example that we are getting design wins at certainly at the high end and ultimately we believe that will trickle down into the mid-end and higher volume. So you've really got to kind of pick where you want to compete as opposed to chasing let's call it low-end phones where either price competition or performance differentiation is harder to accomplish particularly where it involves the practice or the know how that has now become much more common as the world has ramped up trying to focus on how do they also build competitive imaging solutions, does that help.

Matthew Galinko

Analyst

It does, I appreciate that.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And that concludes our question-and-answer session and I will now turn the call over to Jon Kirchner for any additional or closing remarks.

Jon E. Kirchner

Management

Thanks operator. As we work through our near-term challenges we continue to remain focused on further building a diversified, attractive, and highly cash flow generative business. We are excited about what lies ahead as we deliberate advanced, smart, and personalized experiences to consumers in their home, in their car, and on their mobile devices. Thank you for joining us today. We look forward to speaking with you in the future. Operator this concludes today's call.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Thank you for everyone for participating. You may now disconnect.